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Jan 6 panel subpoenas Trump for testimony on Capitol attack

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By LISA MASCARO, FARNOUSH AMIRI, ERIC TUCKER

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850 people have been charged with breaking laws on January 6th. Trump, the main/central criminal has so far escaped.

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Key well evidenced takeaways:

Trump knew that he lost the election, and everyone around him told him he lost.

In public he falsely and knowingly claimed that he had won the election and that the election was stolen.

He actively tried to overturn an election he knew he has lost.
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The House panel warned that the insurrection at the Capitol was not an isolated incident but a warning of the fragility of the nation’s democracy in the post-Trump era.

“None of this is normal or acceptable or lawful in a republic,” Cheney declared.

Trump is too easy a target; it has been a steady erosion of American democracy.

Case in point: the Neo-con nepotism and opportunism of Cheney.

Remember Haliburton and Iraqi reconstruction?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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To illustrate what it said were “purposeful lies,” the committee juxtaposed repeated instances in which top administration officials recounted telling Trump the actual facts with clips of him repeating the exact opposite at his pre-riot rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6.

Amazingly, there are still a few mugs on here who still believe something that actually Trump never did; that the election was 'stolen'.

Trump knew he'd lost, but it was 'embarrassing' for him to admit it. This is why he instigated a riot. What an infant.

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Trump is too easy a target; it has been a steady erosion of American democracy.

If Trump hadn't eroded democracy then maybe he wouldn't be such a big target for the defenders of democracy.

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Finally! trump is behind the insurrection and violence; he is the motive and prime mover behind this act of treason. He MUST answer for all his crimes against the office of POTUS, the Constitution, democracy, law and order, the laws of the US, the Geneva Convention, humanity, the security of the nation, the laws of man and God, everything.

As a Cold War veteran, I want this fascist criminal punished. He raped the nation and effects and damage he did is incalculable, and there's not a positive or admirable thing I can say about him, nothing. He is a total sell-out without cred, honor, respectability or class. None.

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It's a start.

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*Finally!** trump is behind the insurrection and violence; he is the motive and prime mover behind this act of treason. *

He was never charged with treason, and there’s a good reason, if the DOJ did, they would need to establish intent and Garland knows that’s a tough hill to climb.

*He MUST answer for all his crimes against the office of POTUS, the Constitution, democracy, law and order, the laws of the US, the Geneva Convention, humanity, the security of the nation, the laws of man and God, everything. *

He said that he will gladly testify, careful what you wish for. Trying to put Trump on the stand at this late stage before the midterms not only undercuts the legitimacy of this sham trial when he should have testified at the beginning of the trial.

As a Cold War veteran, I want this fascist criminal punished.

What you or the Dems want doesn’t matter. What matters is what is legal and what is not.

He raped the nation

No, he absolutely did not. No wars, No inflation, No closing of small businesses, No mass illegals pouring into the country.

He is a total sell-out without cred, honor, respectability or class. None

Half of the nation doesn’t think so. By the way, the Dems are in serious trouble, see the recent polls? Inflation, crime, not looking good for them at all.

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Half of the nation doesn’t think so.

Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

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What a farce this "committee " is. You can tell the mid terms are coming and the dems are desperate as they know they are going to be decimated. Once the House and Senate are taking over again by the Republicans that will be the end of this farce.

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He lost. He knew he lost. But he had according to his own adviser Bannon that it was a pre-meditated plan to declare victory. It’s on tape. Multiple sworn statements that he knew he lost and was trying to overturn an election he lost fair and square.

And…

The FBI has video and sworn testimony from an employee that he moved documents from the storage closet to his office, AFTER the subpoena, AT THE INSTRUCTION Of, Trump. It’s overwhelming evidence of consciousness of guilt to obstruction of Justice.

AND….

He admitted that he took the docs on purpose last Weekend in AZ

AND…..

SCOTUS rejected his Special Master Hail Mary…, No dissent of any kind DOJ, go to work.

AND…..

He is now trying to create a dummy company to transfer assets to in order to escape a looming judgment. It’s such an obvious dodge that it’s actually kind of stupefying that they’d think it would work. As if the Judge in any subsequent judgement would just shrug his/her shoulders and say “Gosh, you got us. There’s nothing I can do.”

AND…..

Indictments are a foregone conclusion in the GA election interference inquiry. Trump is on tape suborning fraud. Cassidy is now cooperating with them too.

AND……

Marc Short and Kash got to testify before the DOJ Grand Jury today.

AND…….

His former attorney has a lawyer of her won and is cooperating with DOJ questioning re: The false statement she gave the FBI that all docs had been returned when in fact they had not. I guess she doesn’t appreciate being hung out to dry by her client? Her cooperation in coordination with the trump employee who moved the documents is a pincer movement.

These are not the actions/behaviors/conditions of an innocent man with nothing to hide and no criminal/civil liability.

There are nuclear fuel rods in need of processing that are not as burned up as Trump.

He’s not toast. He’s not even nuclear fallout. He’s Trump.

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Half of the nation doesn’t think so. 

Um, no. 1/2 of one political party doesn’t think so. Less than 30% of the voting population is registered GQP. So actually less than 15% of the population believes this idiocy.

57% believe that Trump is guilty of a crime and shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.

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What took them so long? Why wasn't 45 forced to testify from the get-go thus sparing the nation 2 years of dishonest debate and poisonous lying 24/7 that has severely degraded the public political discourse essential to a functioning democracy? Oh, yeah, he was a Potus. But the one service he has done for the country, albeit unwittingly, has been to unmask the hypocrisy of boilerplate "equal justice for all" (cough) and "nobody is above the law" (cough) and expose the fig-leaf of America's two-tier justice system that places a crown on the presidency. Irony in spades, innit?

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this sham trial

It's not a trial. It's a hearing.

The committee has yet to decide whether to make a criminal referral to the DOJ. They certainly should, in my opinion. In a normal universe Trump would be in prison by now, but alas . . .

In any case, Trump will NEVER be president again. (Neither will wannabe mini-Trump, aka "rock star" Ron.)

By the way, the Dems are in serious trouble, see the recent polls? Inflation, crime, not looking good for them at all.

What does that have to do with this hearing? Nothing. Just another refusal to face the facts of what Trump did.

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The United States of America has been under an undeclared state of emergency since the day Narcissus J. Trumpnocchio, also known as the former Insurrectionist-in-Chief announced he was running for President of the United States (POTUS).

The latest congressional hearings regarding his involvement in the attacks on democracy in the USA a surprised very few. He is and has been a complete fraud since childhood and has been able to stay one step ahead of the law by bribing and manipulation.

Theoretically, no one is above the law … time will tell if he gets away this time, but, I for one, believe he will obfuscate as he has in the past.

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The only thing I can say about all this is US politics is utterly destructive, and broken and it's broken by those who claims they are playing by the rules, purporting to support the rules, and motivated to uphold the rules.

In their own little swamp in Washington DC, they think the population believes their competitive tensions is good for the country, but in the real world special interest groups uses the tension to exploit the country, to demote democracy and to degrade freedom....and the people? The people sees what main steam media wants them to see.

Sad, but IMHO, I prefer nationalistic Japanese politics a lot more than destructive politics of USA.

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Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

I showed you so many over the last two years a d you dismissed every single one of them.

It's not a trial. It's a hearing.

Which equates to more time being wasted on a subject the majority of Americans don’t care about.

The committee has yet to decide whether to make a criminal referral to the DOJ.

They can, let them try. Lol

In any case, Trump will NEVER be president again.

That’s not for you or any other lib to decide, that’s up to the people and for voters which includes independents Trump and DeSantis are it.

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What took them so long? Why wasn't 45 forced to testify from the get-go thus sparing the nation 2 years of dishonest debate and poisonous lying 24/7 that has severely degraded the public political discourse essential to a functioning democracy? 

The wheels of Justice turn slowly, but they grind up the guilty and their bs excuses and illusions of power and privilege as surely as the junk yard shredder turns auto engines into mulch.

I wish it were faster as well. There’s no universe in which he man-ups and testifies because he’s a liar, a coward and guilty as hell. But they had to do this so that he cannot say “I would have testified.” That potential lie is no longer open to him.

But as I have said since 1/6, there WILL be a reckoning. Oh yes, there will be a reckoning. And that day approaches for Trump.

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Trump is almost certain to fight the subpoena and decline to testify. On his social media outlet he blasted members for not asking him to testify earlier — though he didn't say he would have —and called the panel “a total BUST.”

almost like an election the Dems are going to lose is coming up in a few weeks.

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Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

I showed you so many over the last two years a d you dismissed every single one of them.

It's not a trial. It's a hearing.

Which equates to more time being wasted on a subject the majority of Americans don’t care about. 

The committee has yet to decide whether to make a criminal referral to the DOJ. 

They can, let them try. Lol

In any case, Trump will NEVER be president again.

That’s not for you or any other lib to decide, that’s up to the people and for voters which includes independents Trump and DeSantis are it.

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Corporal cut and paste chimes in with whataboutism and deflection but Trump will face a reckoning as surely as his cultist rubes have and are facing their own reckoning and have, are or will serve significant prison terms.

No election results are going to change that.

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bass4funk

   Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

> I showed you so many over the last two years a d you dismissed every single one of them.

Except you have not even though you have posted that statement numerous times.

It would be very unusual for the country to be split down the country with 50% of 330 million people supporting Trump.

In that case, half of the country does not support Trump.

257 million voters.

You say 128 million support, Trump.

Last time out, only 155 million voted with Biden getting a majority of the votes at 51.3% and Trump at a minority of 46.9%.

Not even half of the voters.

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No election results are going to change that.

Well, I think quid pro Joe is going to have his own issues.

Asking foreign countries for help with an upcoming election in return for future considerations is still impeachable, isnt it?

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Trump illegally trying to hold onto power like a hanging chad and doing nothing to stop his supporters' rioting and looting the Capitol Building.

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political theater. if people want to re-elect Trump, they can.

Even CNN knows this is nothing but theater-

If he refuses to comply with the subpoena, here’s what could happen:

Contempt. The full House, which is controlled by Democrats until at least January, could vote to hold him in contempt of Congress, something it’s done with several other uncooperative witnesses.

Referral. After a contempt of Congress referral, the Justice Department could then prosecute, as it did with Trump’s former aide Steve Bannon and plans to do with his once economic adviser Peter Navarro.

Prosecution. If found guilty, as Bannon was, Trump could theoretically face a minimum of 30 days in jail. Bannon will be sentenced for failing to comply with the House subpoena later this month.

This sequence of events seems far-fetched for Trump.

“None of that is going to happen,” the Trump critic and conservative lawyer George Conway predicted during an appearance on CNN Thursday. “This is about laying a marker. This is about triggering a response (from Trump).”

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The wheels of Justice turn slowly,

7 years now, at this point for the Dems beyond having zero results they have absolutely nothing and you would think after each defeat they would have learned by now and that hasn’t happen.

I wish it were faster as well.

7 years

“I would have testified.” That potential lie is no longer open to him. 

If it didn’t matter then, it really doesn’t matter now.

But as I have said since 1/6, there WILL be a reckoning.

For 7 years we have been hearing this daily, but to be fair. I hear conservatives say the same about Hillary as well.

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Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

I showed you so many over the last two years

No, you didn’t. And even if you had, the funny thing about polls is that they change. But sure, if you can dig one up from 2 years ago go for it.

a d you dismissed every single one of them.

No, I didn’t. Because you didn’t show any.

Every recent poll shows that the majority do not support 45. You know this is correct.

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almost like an election the Dems are going to lose is coming up in a few weeks.

Almost certainly, yes. But that’s what almost always happens in midterms. Look at the history.

Then it will all happen again next midterms, and again and again. You’ll always have something to cheer or boo.

Like pantomime.

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Show me a poll to support that ‘half of the nation’ back 45.

I showed you so many over the last two years a d you dismissed every single one of them.

Or in other words, I cave - I can't prove it....you got me...

It's not a trial. It's a hearing.

Which equates to more time being wasted on a subject the majority of Americans don’t care about.

Or in other words, yes, I was completely wrong, but I'll never admit it...

The committee has yet to decide whether to make a criminal referral to the DOJ.

They can, let them try. Lol

No trying, Trump's already under DOJ investigation - and the committee has been sharing evidence with them...

In any case, Trump will NEVER be president again.

That’s not for you or any other lib to decide, that’s up to the people and for voters which includes independents Trump and DeSantis are it.

DeSantis? Trump called him a "phony", "whiny", and "fat" - you agree?

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-called-ron-desantis-fat-and-whiny-2022-9

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Well, we will see the boss clown give a petty defense full of lies, deceit, puns and conspiracy theories..

The most pathetic thing are his naive club of fans who still support him with all their garbage and lies..

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Donald will be in prison in a few months , they can get him to testify from there.

Spies and traitors are out into secluded confinement, donald will have all the time in the world to testify.

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He was never charged with treason, and there’s a good reason, if the DOJ did, they would need to establish intent and Garland knows that’s a tough hill to climb.

Not sure where you’re from but in America you get charged after an investigation, and since Clarence Thomas has turned his back on donald, charges are coming.

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7 years now, at this point for the Dems beyond having zero results they have absolutely nothing and you would think after each defeat they would have learned by now and that hasn’t happen.

Sorry to break it to you but the Democrats kicked donald out of office in 2020.

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With vivid new details and evidence, including from the former president's Cabinet secretaries and U.S. Secret Service, the panel showed Trump was told repeatedly by those around him that the election was over, yet he still orchestrated the far-reaching effort to stop Biden from taking office. Several former aides testified that Trump had said privately that he knew he had lost to Biden.

Trump told Meadows “something to the effect of: ‘I don’t want people to know we lost, Mark. This is embarrassing. Figure it out,."

In one recorded interview, former White House official Alyssa Farah Griffin said that Trump looked up at a television and said, “Can you believe I lost to this (expletive) guy?"

And there it is - proof that The Big Lie was nothing but The Big Scam...

Trump knew he lost but he thought he could LIE his way back into the WH, and at the same time fleece his supporters out of more of their money - if they had any left from his four years of grifting them...

It was a clear coup attempt - to subvert our Constitution and the will of the people...

And he did it even KNOWING AND ACKNOWLEDGING he lost...

Next stop - Rikers Island...

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55.1% of the American people are unfavorable to Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

About half of Americans think former President Donald Trump should face criminal charges for his role in the deadly insurrection.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-trump-should-be-charged-for-jan-6-about-half-of-americans-say

Gallup. On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independents.

The majority of Americans do not want Biden or Trump to run in 2024.

Poll: Fewer Than Half of Republican Primary Voters Would Support Trump in 2024

https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-fewer-than-half-of-republican-primary-voters-would-support-trump-in-2024/6656498.html

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Except you have not

I have to many times

It would be very unusual for the country to be split down the country with 50% of 330 million people supporting Trump.

Independents are vastly under polled and a both them and conservatives often don’t trust pollsters and many are not even polled.

.You say 128 million support, Trump.

You say half the country supports Biden?

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I have far too much respect for the people of the United States to accept the idea that half of the country accepts Trump’s stolen election trash.

He scammed a minority of idiots, partisans and basement dwellers - not over half of the country.

A fine country.

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Since his historical defeat humiliation, Trump has milked the cash cow for hundreds of millions in donations which have gone into his pocket. Fool some people all of the time.

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If or when they indict him, they are going to have a huge problem finding an impartial jury. Love him or hate him, it's one or the other for the vast majority of people. Good luck putting him on trial.

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7 years now

You won’t have to say that much longer and you certainly won’t need to say “8”.

I too wish it moved more quickly. It’s kind of hard when the felon in question is the felon in chief and will use any instrument of government power to prevent himself from having to face justice.

And as a moderately wealthy private citizen, both pre and post freak-show, he also has been moderately successful at delaying and deflecting attempts to hold him to account but the train is running out of track.

His day of reckoning is coming. The evidence of guilt is overwhelming. The jurisdictions of coming trials are not in his cultist regions. His own people are under oath testifying that he did exactly what he’s accused of. His own lawyers need lawyers. And indictments are coming at the State level that no roadie can pardon him from in the future.

Trump has played out a guilty hand. He’s almost out of deflections and he has NO defense.

So keep saying “it’s been so long and still nothing” because you won’t be able to say that for much longer.

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Now who got lied to again?

Hmmm.....maybe we should ask Ivana, Marla, and Melania...

And we have in writing that Trump's lawyers lied to the FBI in Jun when they said no more classified was at Mar-A-Lago...and we have testimony from his other lawyers that he directed them to lie in writing, and they refused...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/04/trump-lawyer-refused-report-mar-a-lago-records-oval-office-lie

Next stop - Rikers Island...

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Half of the nation doesn’t think so. By the way, the Dems are in serious trouble, see the recent polls? Inflation, crime, not looking good for them at all.

a recent poll shown 51% of registered voters dont think Trump should be allowed to run again compared to 35%

https://news.yahoo.com/poll-most-us-voters-now-say-trump-should-not-be-allowed-to-serve-as-president-again-100014416.html

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Trump should go to prison for what he did, but he won’t. However, a demagogue like this should never be allowed to run for any public office again.

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A few of the MAGA idiots forget that this article is about donald being asked to testify.

As experience has shown donald will turn into a scared little rat and plead the 5th when asked to testify under oath.

However other rate on his sinking ship have ratted him out and it’ll be great fun seeing him waddle into prison!!!

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“The reckoning for him is going to be broader than that piece of it, that civil fraud piece of it from the fundraising, the grift it,” Conway said. “I mean, he really, there was a broad-based conspiracy to stop the operation of the federal government insofar as it was undergoing a peaceful transfer of power. And that is, you know, more than money, more than anything else, it’s the most valuable thing we have in our democracy. If there’s justice in this world, that’s where he should be held to account.”

*“The irony, though, is that simpler things often take the day,” he added, “and *the documents case is just outright theft and lies.”

*Especially considering the Washington Post’s new reporting reveals that Trump ordered his Mar-a-Lago staff to move the classified documents he’d taken after getting subpoenaed for their return, Conway concluded that to him, that* “is the shortest distance between Donald Trump and an orange jumpsuit in that case because it is so simple.”

*“It’s like a U.S. attorney trying to bring a big mob case against the five families and trying to connect it up to the boss, and all of a sudden, they get the call from the NYPD saying ‘Hey, the big boss, the capo, is loading jewelry on a truck at Kennedy Airport,'” Conway said. “That’s what happened here. *He’s caught red-handed.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/morning-joe-george-conway-nails-164207700.html

BINGO!

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Didn’t the Republicans lose the house during Trump’s presidency?

Was that an indictment on his and the Republican’s performance or were those elections stolen?

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The FBI have some nerve calling everyone in Trump’s orbit a liar. After January let’s see how many agents will be subpoenaed.

That’s easy, none.

Thr MAGA idiots drooling over January will be as disappointed as they were in 2021. And then they’ll turn violent and end up in prison.

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The FBI have some nerve calling everyone in Trump’s orbit a liar.

The crooked FBI? You mean the crooked FBI investigating Hunter Biden? That FBI?

After January let’s see how many agents will be subpoenaed.

Always your final argument. McCarthy's gavel and Gym Jordan's purge.

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Owing to the serious nature of this enquiry, the tone alone, “staggering betrayal" of his oath of office, demands the panel/committee be totally independent, devoid of political interference and be selected from Members of the Judiciary.

This is turning into media circus, to be so close to mid terms, and only now subpoenas Trump for testimony, is ridiculous

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After January let’s see how many agents will be subpoenaed.

Other than donald having to testify under oath by January, there is a good chance a lot of his businesses are going to go under.

The NY AG ordered trump org to stop moving their assets out of the country. That is going to bring in a flood of creditors calling on their loans. From what I’ve heard the creditors in Russia aren’t very polite!!!

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Trump's own adult children asked him to tell his supporters to stop the rioting and looting.

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Economics, the results of the election, and Saudi-US relations are irrelevant.

This is about massive criminal conspiracy organized, encouraged and directed by the former President in order to overthrow a lawfully elected co-equal branch of government for the purpose of overturning the results of a free and fair election that even he knows he lost.

Politics, economics, the election cycle, what have you are nothing other than weak attempts to distract from the Emperor’s no-clothes moment: he’s guilty as hell. He has no defense. He is running out of road and time.

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This is about massive criminal conspiracy organized, encouraged and directed by the former President in order to overthrow a lawfully elected co-equal branch of government for the purpose of overturning the results of a free and fair election that even he knows he lost. 

Then if that were true, Trump would have been arrested a long time ago.

Politics, economics, the election cycle, what have you are nothing other than weak attempts to distract from the Emperor’s no-clothes moment: he’s guilty as hell.

In the US you are always innocent until proven guilty and since this is a “hearing” and nothing more, it’s more grandstanding, bloviating and political theater to satisfy the Trump hating masses nothing more.

He has no defense.

He doesn’t need one, that’s why he’s willing to testify.

He is running out of road and time.

Not him, but for the Dems, that’s an entirely different story.

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His lawyer should say “One more word out of your mouth and I take take my $3 million retainer and I walk because I cannot defend you. Not that I won’t. It’s not possible. With every statement you walk yourself farther down the plank and I’m not going to prison for you.”

Then make his vacation plans and make sure the check cashed. Save himself some money and buy non refundable tickets because Trump is GONNA talk. He’s an idiot and a narcissistic liar. He cannot not talk.

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Other than donald having to testify under oath by January, there is a good chance a lot of his businesses are going to go under.

That’s ok, he’s got enough money and investments He can start over elsewhere, like Florida.

The NY AG ordered trump org to stop moving their assets out of the country

That’s going to fail so miserably, I’m sure he’s done that years ago when he was still a liberal

That is going to bring in a flood of creditors calling on their loans. From what I’ve heard the creditors in Russia aren’t very polite!!!

We keep hearing this.

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Should the Republicans take over the House next year, I suspect that they will be so busy tearing each other apart that they will not even have the energy left to try to impeach President Biden.

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He has no defense.

He doesn’t need one, that’s why he’s willing to testify.

Thats a good one. He will NEVER testify. Not to 1/6. Not in his own defense at trial. For two simple reasons:

Hes guilty as hell and any testimony would magnify, not mitigate his criminality. He’s a habitual liar and would perjure himself on the stand.

As to the ludicrous and already easily answered complaints about the length of time needed, that is a function of his own efforts to delay or deny his day of reckoning. But it’s coming. As surely as death will take us all one day, Trumps day of reckons coming.

and if it happened faster, the same cultist cheerleaders would be screaming about a rush to judgment and due process.

It’s like Goldilocks meets the emperor’s new clothes.

King Tump certainly has the ex-lax touch.

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Thats a good one. He will NEVER testify.

I think he will. I pray to God he does. Now that I would watch!

Hes guilty as hell

Not in the US legally and in the court of public opinion, it matters nothing.. 

and if it happened faster, the same cultist cheerleaders would be screaming about a rush to judgment and due process. 

I think we are all so tired, there are other things more important like inflation.

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The allegations levelled at Donald Trump are serious. Insurrection

Statements from Thompson and Cheney were laden with language frequently seen in criminal indictments. Both lawmakers described Trump as “substantially” involved in the events of Jan. 6. Cheney said Trump had acted in a “premeditated” way.

If this was genuinely the case why has Donald Trump not been charged? I can’t imagine how much this committee/inquiry is costing the US people. How many months? And its seem more of a political merry go round.  

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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Only Trump supporters are so cognitively limited that they cannot care about both.

Unlike Trump’s obvious guilt it’s not an either-or choice.

And the overwhelming majority care about the insurrection and they think he’s guilty and should be held accountable.

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The truth of the matter Donald Trump frightens the living daylights out of the political establishment, to such an extent, Trump is unpredictable, has little diplomatic or political experience, and little or no respect for the conventions of the state…..

…..shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.  

The thought of Trump running again for some, is reason enough to attempt to find any method of restricting his ambitions.  

Why not just trust the people to make their choice at the ballot box.

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That’s ok, he’s got enough money and investments He can start over elsewhere, like Florida. 

If you understood how business works then you would know he doesn't have much. Your $2 contributions are what is keeping him fed and clothed.

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That’s going to fail so miserably, I’m sure he’s done that years ago when he was still a liberal

Years ago he was a petty criminal, now he's tried to overthrow an elected government, sell state secrets....

And he was never a liberal, he was just a petty criminal.

We keep hearing this.

Considering you still haven't heard that donald was kicked out two years ago, I doubt it!!!

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Even if, as seems likely, the GOP wins the House (not by as much as was expected but by enough to change the majority) and fails to win the Senate (in no small part because of the insanity candidates chosen by Chump, er "Trump") it will do nothing to derail the legal procedings and investigations.

This is a dodge to distract from the utterly obvious. King donald, he of the Ex-lax touch, has committed multiple felonies and he is going to be held to account.

While everyone cares about inflation, most of us also care about the rule of law, democracy and objective reality as well.

I take heart in that while the voices in support of the Rule of Law are many, it's really just the same few (two actually) tired rubes in an increasingly desperate rear-guard attempt to deny what is obviously objectively true: Donald Trump is an enemy of the Democratic process and a criminal (as well as a narcicisstic sociopath, a habitual liar, and an idiot) to boot.

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I think he will. I pray to God he does. Now that I would watch!

Pleading the 5th is not testifying!

Donald is scared out of whatever wits that are left on him and will try to make a run.

Too bad his pal putin can't do much for him now!!!

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I think he will. I pray to God he does. Now that I would watch!

Pleading the 5th is not testifying!

You mean like the 400+ times he took the 5th in a CIVIL case?

You remember what Donald said about taking the 5th, right? Only the mob takes the 5th. Golly that would mean....

He won't testify. Never in a million years because he would perjure himself and he's an idiot who would admit his guilt on the stand in a tiff.

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Even if, as seems likely, the GOP wins the House (not by as much as was expected but by enough to change the majority)

As a matter of fact, the estimate is that from today that the Republicans can get the 14 seats needed to have a majority.

and fails to win the Senate (in no small part because of the insanity candidates chosen by Chump, er "Trump") it will do nothing to derail the legal procedings and investigations. 

They will proceed, then it will be over and we can all go back to the things that REALLY matter, such as crime, inflation, rising gas and food prices, the border...

This is a dodge to distract from the utterly obvious.

Now, who is doing the dodge, seriously?

While everyone cares about inflation, most of us also care about the rule of law,

According to every poll, making sure your kids can eat and that we can keep the lights on will win over any hearing. 

Donald Trump is an enemy of the Democratic process and a criminal.

Not in the legal sense, but if that were true, he should have been arrested like all the other protesters that have to be patient and wait for 2024 until they are released. All the Dems had to do was just leave their sick obsession with Trump aside and just focus on what their constituents wanted, but nope....

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If you understood how business works

I do, that is why I said that and you don't know what he has, but what I do know for a fact is, the man has a lot of properties globally and made a lot of investments over the years, he will be just fine.

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Trump has lost more than $1 billion of his wealth during the past year. Had to sell his Washington hotel. Lawyers, at least good ones, won’t represent him anymore because he won’t pay when the tab comes in. Resigned from the board of his Truth social network. Not the success he thought it would be. Like his uni.

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I do, that is why I said that and you don't know what he has, but what I do know for a fact is, the man has a lot of properties globally and made a lot of investments over the years, he will be just fine.

Unfortunately now everyone, except the delusional MAGA idiots know what he has and what he is worth.

His propertjes are heavily leveraged, bleeding and money from the Saudis and Russians is what is keeping them running.And you $2 contribution to buy his is happy meals!

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Republicans have no plan for any of the issues you mention. Democrats do.

So then why won't the people keep them in office? Gandor threw a spell on them? Lol

Plastic, you crack me up.

Trump tried to block the legitimate transfer of power. That is an attack on democracy, pure and simple. If that's not worth prosecuting, I don't know what is. It certainly isn't a "sick obsession".

Then do it!! The Dems had a year to do this, they absolutely knew they had no chance of prosecuting the guy. You guys didn't, but they did and they led the country on a dog and pony show that Trump was going to Pelican Bay in shackles and that never happened, and never will, but we get it, it's good drama, they thought they could get out the base, but with Biden's growing failures, people are more preoccupied with surviving and could care less for what happened a year ago. I just can't wait until January, spent a fortune on Advil.

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It will be funny if donald testifies from prison and then pleads the 5th.

That I would pay to watch!!!

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> It will be funny if donald testifies from prison and then pleads the 5th.

That I would pay to watch!!!

In some Oliver Stone play, perhaps.

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