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Johnson heads to Scotland as local leader attacks no-deal Brexit

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All this promised funding will disappear after the election that Lying Johnson has said he won't be calling.

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The big problem for Sturgeon is that around 40% of SNP members support leaving the EU. 36% of the voted to leave in the referendum in 2016.

Nobody has pushed her to admit that Scotland cannot be an independent, sovereign nation if it joins the EU. Farage began to push this in his speeches just before the EU Parliament election.

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Davidson uses hyperbolic language such as ‘crash out ‘

There wouldn’t be such an event.

It is pure fear mongering.

However, it is right and proper to leave the jumped up EU and renegotiate any and all future agreements.

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Ruth Davidson should leave the Conservative party and joint Liberal Demarcates. The Conservative Party voted unanimously to trigger Article 50.

Ruth Davidson should have the conscience and honour to resign the whip, leave the Conservative Party and trigger a General election

But no Ruth Davidson is a coward putting career before conscience. The UK should leave, it is in or out as Article 50 clearly states

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Sturgeon is making stuff up as she goes along.

BoJo is making progress in the poll. No deal getting more support as I see it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-poll/boris-bounce-uk-conservatives-surge-in-opinion-poll-idUSKCN1UM0NR

Tusk is going to be begging BoJo for a trade pact after Brexit.

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itsonlyrocknrollToday  12:46 pm JST

Ruth Davidson should have the conscience and honour to resign the whip, leave the Conservative Party and trigger a General election

Except that she's an MSP, not an MP. Resigning the whip in the Scottish Parliament wouldn't make any difference in Westminster.

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Yes Simon Foston, Ruth Davidson leads the Scottish Conservatives, so quite correctly holds little political influence in House of Commons (Palace of Westminster).

http://www.scottishconservatives.com/

I have issue with Ruth Davidson stance because it is the UK that is an EU member state not the sum it's parts. The Conservative Party, collectivity chose to trigger Article 50 and leave the EU.

Is it not politically ironic that Scotland, and Northern Ireland is lauded as a reason to justify a second referendum, peoples vote above the majority of the UK that democratically chose to leave?

I suggestthis could also be the rational behind the voting public distrust in UK political establishment.

I also contend the UK is heading towards a September/October 7th (lastest) General Election. Johnson Government is lacking a stable majority.

The next government could be a coalition of the Conservatives and Brexit Parties. If the UK doers not leave.

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"The big problem for Sturgeon is that around 40% of SNP members support leaving the EU"

Oh, really?

Scots MP's on no-deal Brexit:

"MPs have consistently voted against a no-deal Brexit - which means the UK would immediately leave the EU with no agreement in place about the "divorce" process - but the new prime minister could try to get around that by suspending Parliament "

"obody has pushed her to admit that Scotland cannot be an independent, sovereign nation if it joins the EU"

If Bozo tries to circumvent parliament, i.e. suspending it:

"A majority of 41 MPs approved an amendment in the House of Commons on Thursday that blocks any such suspension of Parliament between 9 October and 18 December."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49062945

EU Regulations allow Scotland to re-apply as an independent nation; Junker has hinted Scotland could be fast tracked. Spain has said they won't veto any Scottish application:

"In fact, Spain has never said it would veto Scotland entering the EU. Instead it has said exactly what it is still saying: that Scotland would have to exit the EU, become independent, and reapply."

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/11/spain-s-intervention-reminder-scottish-independence-could-work-nicely-eu

All this debate shows is simple truth: people talk about Sovereignty of Parliament, yet don't know what it is or entails.

Some out there believe Bojo is the man who take Britain off the EU without Parliament saying so.

Jeeeezus.

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Poor writing here. Sturgeon is leader of the SNP but the article neglects to mention she is also First Minister of Scotland. Also, Davidson is an MSP, not an MP. Big difference.

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"The big problem for Sturgeon is that around 40% of SNP members support leaving the EU"

Oh, really?

Yes, really. As I said, 36% of SNP members voted to leave the EU in 2016. Please check it.

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"Yes, really. As I said, 36% of SNP members voted to leave the EU in 2016. Please check it."

The issue is not whether 36% voted leave; what matters is that the vast majority is against leaving the EU under a No Deal.

Johnson is for a No Deal.

Parliament is against it.

Parliament will have the last word, not Bojo.

People fought and died for Parliament's supremacy.

I'm sure you're aware of that.

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@Tangerine2000

Yes, really. As I said, 36% of SNP members voted to leave the EU in 2016. Please check it.

I did and the closest I could find was

"36% of SNP and Labour supporters backed Brexit" dated 7th December 2016 (Herald)

It is a problematic figure, however, because in the run up to the 2014 Scottish independence referendum and since, "Project Fear" (including both major parties working together, and their corporate and academic supporters) told the Scottish people that they could not join Europe in they left the UK and that they were "Better Together".

Which does not actually appear to have been true.

Polls are not always measures of how people think, but how well they have been manipulated.

The Scottish Conservatives can only save face, and probably their careers, by becoming the Conservative Party in an independent Scotland, and serving the Scottish people rather than Westminster.

The funny thing is, they'd very likely do better at the polling booths if they did, rather than being punished for serving the English Conservative Party diktats.

As, indeed, the Scottish Labour Party has been extensively punished for over the last decade and more, until recently losing all its Scottish MEPs in a historic shift this year.

Therefore, T, your figures may be out of date.

It appears the Scottish people have not forgotten both the Labour Party and the Conservative Party holding hands and working together to lie to them last time around.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/27/labour-wiped-out-in-scotland-amid-snp-surge

Scottish Labour has failed to win a single European seat after more than 200,000 voters deserted the party over Brexit and it suffered its worst election in modern political history ... the worst election result since 1910.

After all of Scotland’s 32 councils had declared, Labour finished in fifth place and lost both the Scottish seats it won in 2014. By comparison, the Scottish National party, boosted by an unambiguously pro-remain message from Nicola Sturgeon, secured a record three seats and its highest-ever European parliament vote at 38%.

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