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Joint Chiefs chairman calls Afghan war a 'strategic failure'

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You don't say....

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Steven Covey says one of the habits of 'highly effective people' is to "begin with the end in mind", in looking at the failures of Afghanistan and Iraq, it's clear that Republican Bush43 was not a highly effective leader for many resons, and in this case because he (along with war and chicken-hawks from both parties) led the country into a war with no 'end in mind', unless their end, all they wanted out of the war, was to increase the profits of defense industries, which they did. Those who hold shares in corporations profiting from those wars also have blood on their hands.

Another of the many failures of the US invasions of Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan was thinking the citizens in the country being invaded were supportive of the US, and the armies the US trained would also support the US.

Trillions of US dollars wasted, millions of people negatively affected, nations devastated socially, financially and environmentally, while problems in the US continued to worsen. US fix problems within US borders before starting any more wars. Same with China, Russia/ Iran, Turkey or any other nation with empire aims.

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What's amazing is that the Taliban won during a global pandemic and they basically shun all modern medical technology.

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One year we killed on average 31 Afghan civilians a day

Biden is the only President we have had with the political courage and personal integrity to end this disastrous and immoral war in which America killed over 147,000 Afghan civilians , setting a record in 2016 averaging 31 dead Afghan civilians each day for 365 days straight. That's right: An average of 31 Afghan civilians killed each day.

Source:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096382

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Well, the General finally admitted to what the public always knew and that this entire operation was beyond a disaster and we also now know that Trump never had any intentions of starting any wars with China, this was all made up by Pelosi and the msm picked it up and ran with it and good on the Generals for not wanting to be a a political pawn for Biden’s mistake. They warned him and advised him against pulling out this hastily but he did anyway. Again, he owns all of this and as bad as it all was, all Biden had do was just be truthful, man up about the mistake and apologize, instead he doubles down on the farce and boasts the pullout was a success and this is what’s annoying people on both sides. Even the Dems had for the most part a very hard denying how bad this was, they all knew this was beyond bad and you just can’t defend it. The President had the absolute ability to alter and change the situation, we knew this, but he chose to still move forward with the operation.

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bass4funkToday  08:04 am JST

Well, the General finally admitted to what the public always knew and that this entire operation was beyond a disaster and we also now know that Trump never had any intentions of starting any wars with China, this was all made up by Pelosi and the msm picked it up and ran with it and good on the Generals for not wanting to be a a political pawn for Biden’s mistake. They warned him and advised him against pulling out this hastily but he did anyway. Again, he owns all of this and as bad as it all was, all Biden had do was just be truthful, man up about the mistake and apologize, instead he doubles down on the farce and boasts the pullout was a success and this is what’s annoying people on both sides. Even the Dems had for the most part a very hard denying how bad this was, they all knew this was beyond bad and you just can’t defend it. The President had the absolute ability to alter and change the situation, we knew this, but he chose to still move forward with the operation.

None of this is contained on the article.

0 ( +9 / -9 )

None of this is contained on the article.

The part where Biden called the pullout a success, I agree.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Biden gets to own the disastrous troop exit but it's America which owns the failed Afghanistan war costing $6.5 trillion.

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Well, the General finally admitted to what the public always knew and that this entire operation was beyond a disaster and we also now know that Trump never had any intentions of starting any wars with China, this was all made up by Pelosi and the msm picked it up and ran with it and good on the Generals for not wanting to be a a political pawn for Biden’s mistake. They warned him and advised him against pulling out this hastily but he did anyway. Again, he owns all of this and as bad as it all was, all Biden had do was just be truthful, man up about the mistake and apologize, instead he doubles down on the farce and boasts the pullout was a success and this is what’s annoying people on both sides. Even the Dems had for the most part a very hard denying how bad this was, they all knew this was beyond bad and you just can’t defend it. The President had the absolute ability to alter and change the situation, we knew this, but he chose to still move forward with the operation.

I disagree.

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Biden gets to own the disastrous troop exit but it's America which owns the failed Afghanistan war costing $6.5 trillion.

Very true.

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Joint Chiefs chairman calls Afghan war a 'strategic failure'

Ha!

Failures don’t drag on for 20 years.

Furthermore, it wasn’t a failure, it was a success for the corporate MIC and private contractors, Wall Street, and the war pig politicians.

The only failures are my fellow Americans who keep voting for this corrupt one party mafia.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

You have to spend money to make money and that is what most modern wars appear to be.

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The pullout was set for failure when the former president negotiated directly with the taliban ignoring the democratically elected government in Kabul.

This is something the republicans have to live with, they started this mess and they were responsible for the mess it ended up in.

Wonder why republicans hate democratically elected governments so much!!!

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The Trump deal with the Taliban demoralized the Afghan forces.

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Ha!

Failures don’t drag on for 20 years.

Actually they can dear sir, whether it is a futile war or a failed businessman who has lost money for 20 + years, failures can drag on and on until someone puts a stop to it.

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Maybe the government can ask the defense contractors for a loan? What a waste of money and blood.

"Everybody's got a strategy until they get punched in the mouth." -- Mike Tyson

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Abject failure. Though I seem to recall that US motivations to enter Afghanistan at the time had absolutely nothing to do with promoting democracy, but were all about securing oil and gas infrastructure that their previously funded and supported Hound Dogs in the region - The Taliban, were starting to threaten as they went rogue. A trans-Afghanistan pipeline springs to mind.

Anyone who that thinks any of the excursion into Afghanistan was about democracy or promoting the plight of Afhganis is simply naive.

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Biden's stellar diplomatic acumen displayed .

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More like the Trump/Pompeo Feb 2020 agreement that gave the Taliban everything they wanted and released over 5K Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda terrorist from prison, was a "strategic surrender"....

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The pullout was set for failure when the former president negotiated directly with the taliban ignoring the democratically elected government in Kabul.

Well, Milley said, Biden is the President as such once he came into office could have changed the entire withdrawal operation, he didn’t, he was advised not to pull out the way he did and he didn’t listen. That’s on him and the generals in a tongue and cheek way basically reiterated that point.

This is something the republicans have to live with,

They don’t have to live with anything, they don’t control the White House, the House or the Senate. This all 110% rests with this administration. Even the Dems last night couldn’t really defend the President on this. Tim Kaine tried really hard but it was a futile move and embarrassing to say the least.

they started this mess

Obama had 8 years to change course in Afghanistan and he instead increased the troop level so yes, Bush started it, Obama did nothing, Trump almost made the mistake that Biden made, the difference is as stubborn as Trump can be (which is not a bad quality) he backed down and did not proceed with the pullout as Milley duly noted.

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A strategic failure in which he participated in.

Why is he still wearing a uniform? He should have resigned.

Biden and his administration officials planned for all contingencies when it came to the military withdrawal. Was a strategic failure one of the planned contingencies?

Blame Trump, the Afghan government, and the Afghan defense force, but don't you dare blame Biden and his administration officials who planned for all contingencies.

They should all be awarded Oscars for playing their parts in this fiasco.

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A strategic failure in which he participated in. 

Why is he still wearing a uniform? He should have resigned.

Biden and his administration officials planned for all contingencies when it came to the military withdrawal. Was a strategic failure one of the planned contingencies?

Blame Trump, the Afghan government, and the Afghan defense force, but don't you dare blame Biden and his administration officials who planned for all contingencies.

They should all be awarded Oscars for playing their parts in this fiasco.

Agreed.

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The pullout was set for failure when the former president negotiated directly with the taliban ignoring the democratically elected government in Kabul.

Well, Milley said, Biden is the President as such once he came into office could have changed the entire withdrawal operation, he didn’t, he was advised not to pull out the way he did and he didn’t listen. That’s on him and the generals in a tongue and cheek way basically reiterated that point.

Once again, thanks for admitting Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster and Biden should have reneged on it when he came into office...

This is something the republicans have to live with,

They don’t have to live with anything,

Given how they are shunning Trump's vaccine and ending up in the ICU and morgue, that's an understatement...

they started this mess

Obama had 8 years to change course in Afghanistan

Obama? Hmmmmm.....maybe you should listen to this poster...

Bass4funk

Sep. 22  12:11 pm JSTPosted in: Taliban ask to address U.N. General Assembly  

Trump is not the President. What Trump “did” in the past has nothing to do with the decisions that the current President made. 

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Once again, thanks for admitting Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster and Biden should have reneged on it when he came into office...

So then you agree with me that Biden was compromised, inept, and not up to the job to be President of the US if he is incapable of making serious life and death situation, then it falls on all of the WH Democrats to invoke the 25th amendment and the DNC are responsible for what happened, they have the blood on their hands for executing this in an incompetent fashion.

Obama? Hmmmmm.....maybe you should listen to this poster...

So then going back to what you were saying if all that is irrelevant then Biden DOES bear all responsibility, even Gillibrand and Blumenthal couldn't and wouldn't defend Biden.

Lincoln, the more you try to protect the actions of this President, the more you and the left look like a fish flailing on dry land, give it up.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Well, Biden said no senior military leadership advised him to leave a troop presence in Afghanistan. 

Milley & McKenzie confirm they advised a troop presence. 

Austin said their advice was “received & considered, for sure.”

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

The bumbling circus clatters on.

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It is more than a strategic failure.

It just reflects the malfunction of entire admin system that lacks adequate cooperation and connection among myriad organizations and establishment..

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Once again, thanks for admitting Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster and Biden should have reneged on it when he came into office...

So then you agree with me that Biden was compromised, inept, and not up to the job to be President of the US if he is incapable of making serious life and death situation, then it falls on all of the WH Democrats to invoke the 25th amendment and the DNC are responsible for what happened, they have the blood on their hands for executing this in an incompetent fashion.

What? I agree with what you stated - that Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster and Biden should have cancelled it. Once again, thanks for agreeing with me...

Obama? Hmmmmm.....maybe you should listen to this poster...

Trump is not the President. What Trump “did” in the past has nothing to do with the decisions that the current President made. 

Gotcha....

Lincoln, the more you try to protect the actions of this President, the more you and the left look like a fish flailing on dry land, give it up.

At least I'm on dry land, you and the Trump supporters have already sunk..."all aboard the Trump Titanic....sailing for Rikers Island"....

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HelixToday  11:59 am JST

Trump Trump Trump. It never ends.

Once more, try to understand:

Any withdrawl President Trump was considering was conditions based. Those conditions - and they were stringent - had to be met or no withdrawl.

Biden threw out those conditions and had none of his own

False.

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What? I agree with what you stated - that Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster

So then Milley and the other 2 generals as well as Biden were lying when they all said as Biden has said, the buck stops with him. So they all call the pullout a disaster, everyone including most of the Democrats in the committee as well as the 13 parents whose children were killed all believe and know that I was responsible and yet, do you want to talk about Trump?

If Trump were the current President you’d have a point, but since he’s not…

and Biden should have cancelled it. Once again, thanks for agreeing with me...

Then we both agree Biden should have listened to his generals. A start.

Gotcha....

Not me, this President

At least I'm on dry land, you and the Trump supporters have already sunk.

I have no idea what that means, but anyway even the Democrats weren’t talking about Trump that much, because they know their own leader was solely responsible for this as well as the generals that pushed for this

History won’t be so kind to Biden.

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History won’t be so kind to Biden.

Thats for sure.

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Well, Milley said, Biden is the President as such once he came into office could have changed the entire withdrawal operation, he didn’t, he was advised not to pull out the way he did and he didn’t listen.

But dear sir General Milley clearly said the previous administration genuflecting to the taliban contributed in the surrender by the Afghan troops!!!

They don’t have to live with anything, they don’t control the White House,

And they will not for a long long time, thank you for acknowledging that!!!

Anyhow their leader does not take responsibility for anything!!

Obama had 8 years to change course in Afghanistan and he instead increased the troop level so yes, Bush started it, Obama did nothing,

As I said dear sir, they started this and they were responsible for it ending in a mess!!!

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Trump almost made the mistake that Biden made, the difference is as stubborn as Trump can be (which is not a bad quality) he backed down and did not proceed with the pullout as Milley duly noted.

Well he did not just back down sir, he genuflected before the taliban all for a Nobel.

And he didn't even get that, I do feel sorry for him!!!

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Milley told the committee, when pressed, that it had been his personal opinion that at least 2,500 U.S. troops were needed to guard against a collapse of the Kabul government and a return to Taliban rule.

Numerous generals told biden to leave several thousand troops in Afghanistan yet biden lied to the American people saying none of his generals told him that. biden failed to follow the advice of the military and 13 service members and nearly 200 Afghan civilians were blown to bits. Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

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The buck stops with every Commander-in-Chief not just Biden. More troops lost their lives under Trump than Biden. Trump thought he could trust the terrorist Taliban. Had he been president the Taliban take over would have still happened. Excluding the Afghan government was a mistake by Trump.

Tribal land can not be built into a single nation. Better independent states within a central government. America tried to build what it thought was best without considering what the Afghans wanted.

The American Afghan War can not be judged by a single month in August 2021, when the war lasted nearly 240 months.

Trump too promised to bring home every single trooper. He too was done with that war.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 by last December.

Numerous generals told biden to leave several thousand troops in Afghanistan yet biden lied to the American people saying none of his generals told him that. biden failed to follow the advice of the military and 13 service members and nearly 200 Afghan civilians were blown to bits. Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

So instead of the promise of bringing the troops home, Biden would have needed to send several thousand back again.

While in office Trump lied daily, on more than 20,000 occasions. Impeached twice.

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What? I agree with what you stated - that Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster

So then Milley and the other 2 generals as well as Biden were lying when they all said as Biden has said, the buck stops with him. So they all call the pullout a disaster, everyone including most of the Democrats in the committee as well as the 13 parents whose children were killed all believe and know that I was responsible and yet, do you want to talk about Trump?

Your words - you said Biden should have changed Trump's surrender agreement - can't deflect or run away from that....

If Trump were the current President you’d have a point, but since he’s not…

Yet you cited Obama in this thread...failing to follow your own advice?

and Biden should have cancelled it. Once again, thanks for agreeing with me...

Then we both agree Biden should have listened to his generals. A start.

We both agree Trump's surrender agreement was a disaster and Biden should have thrown it out...

Gotcha....

Not me, this President

Your words in black and white - cite Obama today, say we shouldn't reference past Presidents yesterday...flip-flop...

At least I'm on dry land, you and the Trump supporters have already sunk.

I have no idea what that means,

But you do know about fish....

History won’t be so kind to Biden.

Rikers Island won't be so kind to Trump...

2 ( +3 / -1 )

He also said that the President had the authority and the power to change the outcome and he didn’t do that especially after the advice that he was given, don’t leave the most important and critical fact out please.

But dear sir, we are talking about the responsibility for the Afghan troops surrendering and the taliban taking over. The Afghan army was so demoralized that nothing could have prevented them from surrendering and if President Biden had kept troops there it would have resulted in more loss of life for the troops.

Hmmm….I would say the quote the opposite for the house at this moment

Actually they dont sir, if you know how to count that is!

He’s not in office, he’s not the leader

Yes he was badly beaten in the elections but he is still a leader for the rudderless republicans.

it’s interesting how the liberal media networks are not putting a lot of these older vets on TV, I wonder why….

Oh they have been dear sir, and all of them agree with President Biden's decision !!

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Trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 by last December. 

Yes and so why didn’t Biden change it, he had the power, the Generals were asked that and then it got quiet, followed by lite bloviating. Even Horono couldn’t defend Biden on none of this which was a complete shocker.

So instead of the promise of bringing the troops home, Biden would have needed to send several thousand back again.

Ok so more excuses, that’s the question was asked being the central commander, why weren’t these contingency plans thawed out before hand, they were brought to trumps attention and that’s why he decided to leave the issue, Biden was told and he still went on with it.

While in office Trump lied daily,

Well, it seems Psaki and Blinken have passed him way beyond even our imaginable comprehension

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Your words - you said Biden should have changed Trump's surrender

Biden surrendered when he left the way he did, when you look to the Taliban or the Afghanis or the SIV holders or the Americans left behind the image that they sit in their heads is Joe Biden. Again, I asked the parents of the 13 soldiers that died in Afghanistan and ask who they blame, none of the liberal media or putting them under networks, they’re not blaming Trump, because he’s not the current president

We both agree

No, Lincoln, we don’t. I only believe the current leader of the administration is the one responsible

Rikers Island won't be so kind to Trump...

That will never happen even on its worst day.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

I love watching the top military, the people the Right (used to pretend to) respect, pointing out the complete and utter failure of Donald Trump as a president for the world to see. It's the right's own people, pointing out that their Dear Leader was a complete failure. When we do it, they claim bias. Now it's their own doing it.

Is this what we're going to see next from the right: Thank you for your service but shut your damn mouth about Donald Trump.

Afghanistan was a failure of America, that three presidents in a row refused to admit was a failure. Biden did the right thing by pulling out of Iraq, even to only be belittled by his own people for doing the best thing for their nation.

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How many troops were killed under Trump?

"In fact, 11 U.S. service members were killed in Afghanistan last year, including four in combat, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System. Twenty-three service members were killed in Afghanistan in 2019, including 17 in combat. " In 2018 13 troops were killed.

"The number of US troops who died in war zones rose in 2017, the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, for the first time in six years. As of Dec. 28, at least 33 military personnel had been killed in war zones overseas compared to 26 last year, according to an analysis of casualty statements released by the Pentagon. At least 21 of those died in combat, according to the Pentagon — some in places where the US presence was not widely known."

How troops were killed under Biden?

12 by a suicide bomber.

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Your words - you said Biden should have changed Trump's surrender

Biden surrendered when he left the way he did, when you look to the Taliban or the Afghanis or the SIV holders or the Americans left behind the image that they sit in their heads is Joe Biden. Again, I asked the parents of the 13 soldiers that died in Afghanistan and ask who they blame, none of the liberal media or putting them under networks, they’re not blaming Trump, because he’s not the current president

Well make up your mind Bass....first you say Trump's agreement was bad and Biden should have walked away from it, now you defend it. Are you defending the release of 5K Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda prisoners for nothing too?

We both agree

No, Lincoln, we don’t. I only believe the current leader of the administration is the one responsible

Re-read your posts - you're the one saying Biden should have changed Trump's agreement...I just agreed with you...

Rikers Island won't be so kind to Trump...

That will never happen even on its worst day.

Get your hanky out for your worst day....

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/02/politics/trump-organization-grand-jury-calamari-jr-mcconney/index.html

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Well make up your mind Bass....

I’m not the issue, Biden is, he’s the one that’s dragging the DNC down, to the delight of the GOP

you're the one saying Biden should have changed Trump's agreement...I just agreed with you...

Then That means either Biden was incompetent, incoherent or he just didn’t care to listen to his senior military advisers, so which is it?

Get your hanky out for your worst day....

No, Because Nadler and all the other Democrats have been after this guy for over 30 years and if they couldn’t get him back then they’re not gonna get them now. You need to commit a crime first in anyway why are we talking about Trump?? We are talking about Biden.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

How many troops were killed under Trump?

But he’s not the current President and he didn’t leave people behind or had people falling off planes.

"In fact, 11 U.S. service members were killed in Afghanistan last year, including four in combat, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System. Twenty-three service members were killed in Afghanistan in 2019, including 17 in combat. " In 2018 13 troops were killed.

As the current president Joe Biden in his botched withdrawal pull out got 13 soldiers killed who do you think the parents blame? The current president

"The number of US troops who died in war zones rose in 2017, the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, for the first time in six years. As of Dec. 28, at least 33 military personnel had been killed in war zones overseas compared to 26 last year, according to an analysis of casualty statements released by the Pentagon. At least 21 of those died in combat, according to the Pentagon — some in places where the US presence was not widely known."

How troops were killed under Biden?

12 by a suicide bomber.

Under Biden. Maybe if he would’ve listen to his generals, this might have been avoidable, but now this rests solely with him.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

bass4funk

you blame Biden for the deaths of 12 troops (not 13) killed by a suicide bomber and two Afghans who clung to a plane taking off. How stupid is that?

But the facts show more American troops were killed during the 4 years of the Trump administration including the deaths of Afghans from bombing.

You can not hold Biden accountable for the 20-year war.

Many families who lost loved ones during those 20 years now wonder what their sacrifices were for. Not only Americans but the British too.

The Commander-in-Chief gets to take all final decisions including if to press the nuclear button. There will be no time for discussion with any generals.

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you blame Biden for the deaths of 12 troops (not 13) killed by a suicide bomber and two Afghans who clung to a plane taking off. How stupid is that?

It happened on his watch, he made the decision to pullout, he’s the one that didn’t listen to Milley and the other General advisors, yes I blame him. He said, The buck stops with me and he’s right.

You can not hold Biden accountable for the 20-year war.

I don’t, I hold them responsible for this disastrous pull out

The Commander-in-Chief gets to take all final decisions

Thank you.

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As the current president Joe Biden in his botched withdrawal pull out got 13 soldiers killed who do you think the parents blame? The current president

But dear sir, the parents of thousands of troops who came back to US praise President Biden!!!

It happened on his watch, 

But dear sir the genuflection to taliban happened under the former guy's watch, and for what a broken promise of a Nobel nomination!! Doesn't look good for him I might say!!!

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The Commander-in-Chief gets to take all final decisions

then Biden in this case is to solely to blame for the US military and civilian deaths resulting from his decisions.

good to know.

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But dear sir, the parents of thousands of troops who came back to US praise President Biden!!!

…they just didn’t praise how he left the country, not even the Democrats….except Kaine.

But dear sir the genuflection to taliban happened under the former guy's watch,

And this current President executed that plan. Milley And the other generals wanted to make sure that everyone knew that, they did not want to be pulled under the bus by this man

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…they just didn’t praise how he left the country, not even the Democrats….except Kaine.

But they did dear sir, they are glad their children are safe. Maybe they didn't get a farewell party in Kabul, but you might agree no one cares for that.

And this current President executed that plan.

Oh no dear sir, he did what he said he will do. The Afghan army collapse is on the former guy and his desire for a Nobel!!!

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And the other generals wanted to make sure that everyone knew that, they did not want to be pulled under the bus by this man

That is why they left by plane dear sir, traveling by bus to the US would have taken a lot of time .

As a decorated war hero I am sure you understand that!!!

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But they did dear sir, they are glad their children are safe.

Not by how we left.

That is why they left by plane dear sir, traveling by bus to the US would have taken a lot of time .

I'm glad you see humor in all of this

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Joint Chiefs chairman calls Afghan war a 'strategic failure'

Well, you can that again. Isn"t this the same clown that tried to make foreign policy over Trumps head, and is introducing "critical race theory" racist indoctrination into the military?

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

probably because of all the "white rage" and "domestic terrorists" who served there.

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ulysses

Oh no dear sir, he did what he said he will do. The Afghan army collapse is on the former guy and his desire for a Nobel!!!

I know that he is very orange and very bad, but sorry no. Trump was realistic about the other side and had a plan to get out of the mess systematically. Yes, it can be assumed that the puppet government would have collapsed anyway, but Trump was not going to leave citizens and a mountain of military hardware to the Taliban.

But

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-3 ( +2 / -5 )

to know what is going on all that you have to do is compare the "they will pay!" comments from the White House about our Border Agents being falsely accused of whipping people.

compared to the silence no one being held accountable for Afghanistan, whatsoever. "mistakes" and "strategic failures" that just kind of happened, I guess. No one really did them or needs to "pay" for what they did, I suppose.

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Well make up your mind Bass....

I’m not the issue, Biden is, he’s the one that’s dragging the DNC down, to the delight of the GOP

You are when you so clearly contradict yourself in one thread for all to see....and once again, what about those 5K terrorists released - you defend that?

you're the one saying Biden should have changed Trump's agreement...I just agreed with you...

Then That means either Biden was incompetent, incoherent or he just didn’t care to listen to his senior military advisers, so which is it?

That meads Trump's surrender agreement was an absolute disaster and started the implosion of Afghanistan by excluding our Afghan partners of 20 years and releasing 5K Taliban ISIS, and Al Qaeda prisoners for nothing but "promises".... You said Biden should have changed it....good conclusion....

Get your hanky out for your worst day....

No, Because Nadler and all the other Democrats have been after this guy for over 30 years and if they couldn’t get him back then they’re not gonna get them now. You need to commit a crime first in anyway why are we talking about Trump?? We are talking about Biden.

"Mr Weisselberg, was Mr Trump aware of the many instances of tax and insurance fraud within the Trump Org?"

Bye-Don....

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to know what is going on all that you have to do is compare the "they will pay!" comments from the White House about our Border Agents being falsely accused of whipping people.

But dear sir, our former president was all in favor of whipping people.

compared to the silence no one being held accountable for Afghanistan, 

Were people whipped in Afghanistan?

Please do let me know the details and I will ensure action is taken, immediately!!!

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