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high-powered rifle “similar to an AR-15" to spray more than 70 rounds 

And some want you to believe weapons like the AR-15 are good for hunting, what kind of hunter would need to use a gun that sprays more than 70 rounds to take down their prey? To me that hunter would be someone so inept with a gun that they'd be a danger to all forms of life. And yet the 'muh freedom' crowd want people like that to be able to easily get guns. Beyond extremist's versions of 'muh freedom', plus the profits the gun industries make, and "I look cool to the other thugs, holding one in my selfies" why should anyone be able to easily buy weapons like an AR-15? The US is sick, being made sicker by its gun loving extremists spreading their deadly diseases. Now with the extreme right Republican courts siding with the extreme right 'muh freedom' herds leading the country, the USA might just implode, making it easier for the Russia/China bloc to take firmer control of the US and the planet.

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high-powered rifle “similar to an AR-15" to spray more than 70 rounds 

And some want you to believe weapons like the AR-15 are good for hunting, what kind of hunter would need to use a gun that sprays more than 70 rounds to take down their prey? To me that hunter would be someone so inept with a gun that they'd be a danger to all forms of life. And yet the 'muh freedom' crowd want people like that to be able to easily get guns. Beyond extremist's versions of 'muh freedom', plus the profits the gun industries make, and "I look cool to the other thugs, holding one in my selfies" why should anyone be able to easily buy weapons like an AR-15? The US is sick, being made sicker by its gun loving extremists spreading their deadly diseases. Now with the extreme right Republican courts siding with the extreme right 'muh freedom' herds leading the country, the USA might just implode, making it easier for the Russia/China bloc to take firmer control of the US and the planet.

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Since 2A covers everyone including children, how can kids defend themselves against mass shooters? The cops in the recent mass school shooting in Texas didn't go in for over 3 hours and just waited there. Also:

GOP Rep. Kinzinger publishes 'unhinged' voicemail threats left by Trump supporters

(news quote)

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Crimo’s father, Bob, a longtime deli owner, sought the mayor's office in 2019, calling himself “a person for the people.”

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-crimo-father-lost-highland-park-mayor-race-gun-control-democrat-1721775

Gunman's father was a Trump supporter and would be populist, A poster family for American dysfunction.

Americans have confused freedom and liberty and are constrained by a society built to defend the unlimited freedoms of guns and billionaires.

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I don’t care if he was of legal age and had no pipes or warrants.

What in this person’s picture says “well-balanced personality”?

To the dealer that sold the weapons, I hope you’re enjoying your commission. There are several families sitting down to an empty chair today.

And it seems that the issue isn’t the nutters, the gang-bangers or what have you. The issue (right now) is the easy access to high capacity semiautomatic weapons.

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Ban assault rifles. It was done before and can be done again.

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According to the Gun Violence Archive, Highland Park was the 316th mass shooting in the US – defined as where four or more people are hit by bullets – this year.

316!!

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What can you expect from a country where assault rifles have more privileges than life???...

Third world..

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https://www.newsweek.com/robert-crimo-highland-park-shooting-trump-rallies-illinois-1721618

To balance the signal to noise of disinfo.

In the end, mass shootings and Trump are symptoms of American dysfunction.

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So now that it’s come out this lunatic was a far left Socialist Antifa member this story will disappear from the mainstream media quickly.

Of course you want to drag left/right politics into it, when really the topic should be able access to high powered weaponry.

It does appear that these socialist/antifa claims are alternative facts from far right echo chambers. He attended pro-Trump rallies and possessed large amounts of right wing material. Bit this is lately irrelevant - weapons need to be kept away from all extremists and then mentally unwell.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/breaking-exclusive-information-uncovered-overnight-shows-highland-park-shooter-bobby-crimo-tied-socialists-progressives-antifa-occult/

Patrick Crusius killed many more and he's 100% Trump. It doesn't matter if shooter is pro Trump or Hillary, how can kids in schools defend THEMSELVES against mass school shooters since even the cops don't and the cops didn't enter the school for hours and hours to confront school shooter in Texas? 2A doesn't say "anyone over 18 or over". Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself again the ANTIFA/BLM cult and now he's a Hannity star and appears on Rush Limbaugh. He also visited MarOLago

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So now that it’s come out this lunatic was a far left Socialist Antifa member this story will disappear from the mainstream media quickly.

Of course you want to drag left/right politics into it, when really the topic should be about access to high powered weaponry.

It appeard that these socialist/antifa claims are "alternative facts" from right-wing echo chambers. He attended pro-Trump rallies and possessed large amounts of right-wing material. But this is largely irrelevant - weapons need to be kept away from all extremists and the mentally unwell.

(Reposted with typos corrected)

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According to the US Supreme Court's conservative majority, the suspect was just another well-regulated militia member. Nothing to see here, just move along.

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Of course you want to drag left/right politics into it, when really the topic should be able access to high powered weaponry.

So how come you didn't call out the person who commented before you calling out the right?

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And some want you to believe weapons like the AR-15 are good for hunting, what kind of hunter would need to use a gun that sprays more than 70 rounds to take down their prey?

When you modify it then you can like many hunting rifles.

To me that hunter would be someone so inept with a gun that they'd be a danger to all forms of life.

To you, that’s your thinking. To me, I can do what I want and living on a farm with Wild feral pigs, yes, the rapid fire succession of the AR-15 helps a lot with that.

And yet the 'muh freedom' crowd want people like that to be able to easily get guns.

No, the red flags were out on this kid for a long time, had nothing to do with the guns and he was on the radar of law enforcement and social media for awhile and why was their No preventative action taken? Why weren’t the laws on the books already enforced.

Beyond extremist's versions of 'muh freedom', plus the profits the gun industries make, and "I look cool to the other thugs,

What? Here we go…

holding one in my selfies" why should anyone be able to easily buy weapons like an AR-15?

Why not? Why do I have to suffer and not being able to exercise my 2nd amendment rights because you don’t like them. Especially when I’m law-abiding, who are you people to say what we can or cannot have or own?

The US is sick, being made sicker by its gun loving extremists spreading their deadly diseases.

I disagree, what is sick and disgusting is that the gun haters and a lot of liberals (at least in public) want to punish millions of Americans knowing that 98.9% of Americans are law-abiding and would never use or abuse gun laws. There is absolutely zero reason to punish or penalize these people because of a few idiots committing crimes.

Now with the extreme right Republican courts siding with the extreme right 'muh freedom' herds leading the country, the USA might just implode, making it easier for the Russia/China bloc to take firmer control of the US and the planet.

It will implode as long as this administration takes a continued hostile position on fellow Americans that want to be left alone and have their 2nd amendment rights upheld. If this administration wants to be taken seriously and doesn’t want to capitulate and appease China or Russia, then maybe they should take a more aggressive stance towards them.

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For the crazies, these deadly assault rifles are like exciting toys.

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A report says an uncle called him “quiet” and “normal”.

He was a tattooed freak.

Left/Right? He had no politics. He was only interested in cultivating his own darkness.

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Tired of the same stupid ‘arguments’ from the same stupid people which will be thrown up again after next week’s shooting.

We’ll hear again today about black crime, fentanyl, Antifa, and the second amendment from my cold dead hands blah blah blah.

How about addressing these known facts first; he bought the guns legally, he attended 45 rallies, wore a 45 flag, he referenced and posted on right wing extremist sites. Rich, white, ‘quiet’.

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as long as this administration takes a continued hostile position on fellow Americans that want to be left alone and have their 2nd amendment rights upheld.

The majority of Americans don’t have guns. They’d like their right to be left alone and not get their heads blown off at a July 4th parade upheld.

Again, most Americans don’t have or want a gun.

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This story will disappear just as fast as the black nationalist who rammed his car into the crowd at the parade or the other black nationalist who shot people in the subway. When it’s not a White supremacist it just gets lost in the news cycle.

Illinois Actually has red flag laws in place and they clearly didn’t work. Glad to see the police acted quickly and didn’t wait like they have in the past.

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Again, most Americans don’t have or want a gun.

Then stop contradicting yourself and claiming that America is a dangerous place because guns are out of control, you have just been serving yourself up, and let the few of us the head of the absolute God-given right as law biting citizens to own a firearm, leave us be, we are not the ones causing any harm or hurting anyone.

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absolute God-given right as law biting citizens to own a firearm,

It's not God-given. It's a right given by an 18th century document protecting a well-regulated militia, which today means the army.

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Again, most Americans don’t have or want a gun.

Then stop contradicting yourself and claiming that America is a dangerous place because guns are out of control, you have just been serving yourself up, and let the few of us the head of the absolute God-given right as law biting citizens to own a firearm, leave us be, we are not the ones causing any harm or hurting anyone.

That makes absolutely no sense. None whatsoever.

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How about addressing these known facts first; he bought the guns legally, he attended 45 rallies, wore a 45 flag, he referenced and posted on right wing extremist sites. Rich, white, ‘quiet’.

He was also known to the police for his odd and radical behavior and to all social media platforms. They were called to his place in 2019 twice, they confiscated 16 knives, all the right laws were implemented, he had a sword, he flunked out of school, again, it’s more than the gun, you focus on the gun and the other weapons, but never on the individual.

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Leftists consistently focus on what “site” the information is posted on not whether the information is factual or not.

then you link to the same site they used yesterday and you get the “well I don’t watch CNN” narrative.

all just a distraction game with a bunch of “but Trump” posted here again.

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That makes absolutely no sense. None whatsoever.

Neither does the lefts constant and unsuccessful tirade and assault on law-abiding gun owners and the worst part of all of this is, we have to be lectured by people that aren’t even US citizens, that can’t vote change anything or make any significant impact or contribute anything to the topic generally speaking as far as what should or should not be implemented regarding gun legislation. I find that extremely amusing, odd, but amusing nonetheless.

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it’s more than the gun, you focus on the gun and the other weapons, but never on the individual.

The poster's sentences which you quote: Literally all about this individual, Robert Crimo. Not about guns per se.

Great use of logic as usual .

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It's not God-given. It's a right given by an 18th century document protecting a well-regulated militia, which today means the army.

But the point is, as long as the 2nd amendment stands, the gun haters will not take them from me or abolish them. That’s just not going to happen.

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who decides what site is “credible”?

you?

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Except he didn't really, did he? In the beginning, only a tiny sliver would be what we would call free. You had to be a rich, white, landowning male to have any of the rights granted in the Constitution. So the founding fathers were not perfect and it seems either: A) neither was God. Or B) the rights of men are actually constituted more or less perfectly by men (and women now). 

We have come a long way

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-20-biggest-black-owned-141347678.html

It's as idiotic as the idea that since new rights have come into the public consciousness, none of those are rights because they were not specifically enumerated in the document. That is the mark of a simple mind.....

Well, if the left thinks that the 2nd amendment will be abolished are just in for a very sad disappointment.

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The pictures are obviously of the shooter and have been captured from his confirmed social media. Before liberal big tech scrubbed it all. Are they fake?

im curious where did people here get the info he was at a trump rally, where did they view the obvious mocking pictures he took dressed as Waldo? where did someone determine his Democrat father is really a closet trump supporter, etc?

have seen none of this on your “legitimate” media.

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Again, most Americans don’t have or want a gun.

According to Pew Research (2017) …

30% of Americans own a gun

69% of Americans don’t own a gun

… so far your statement is correct (2017)

BUT, of the 69% …

36% “could see owning a gun in the future”

33% “could never see owning a gun”

… the second part of your statement is incorrect.

I happen to be part of the 33%, but that doesn’t win me any medals.

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My question is not how he got the weapon - that’s simple to figure - nor even what to do about removing such weapons from the hands of potential killers - that’s possible.

The tough questions are:

How do these freaks come about?

How do we stop the process?

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Another day, several more mass shootings in the United States of America … this has got to stop.

As a nation, we lack the political will to do what is right and hide ourselves under the 2nd amendment to the constitution . However, the right to bear arms does not give anyone the right to kill.

A combination of metal illness and the firearm culture is again the culprit … when will this end?

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who decides what site is “credible”? 

you?

Who is credible can be debated. I know who ISN’T: People who repeatedly spot falsehoods, debunked conspiracy theories and just laughable bat-feces crazy tales.

So “not you.”

In addition, public recognition for journalism excellence figures in there somewhere, so..... Neither the GWP and infowars nor the loons who spout their insanity.

So again: “not you.”

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As I sit her watching CNN the story is quickly changing. Fact; he was a socialist member of ANTIFA and a Biden supporter. Like I said before this story is about to disappear.

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not ME? or not any source that I post?

Im curious how you are trying to deflect this onto me when I am just sharing the factual information that is available at a site you personally dont like.

Total dodge on where you got all YOUR sketchy information. Where did you see those pictures? where were you told his Daddy supposedly liked Trump?

CNN? or some dodgy leftist site?

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One more example of a sick, distraught, insecure, scared, and angry far-righter - who is fed outright hate and outrage every day in the far-right media echo chamber....and then acts on it...

And who is so disturbed he shouldn't be allowed near a slingshot let alone high-velocity military assault weapons...

But our dear Repub friends think every nutter should be allowed to have a National Guard armory in their basement...

Mass shootings are becoming as everyday as fender benders in the US - all due to Repubs and their legislative gun give-a-way...

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Highland Park has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States.

Guess your Antifa shooter didnt care about those laws, huh?

SO what to do? pass more laws?

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"But we can stop this because I collect guns and go hunting."

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But our dear Repub friends think every nutter should be allowed to have a National Guard armory in their basement...

Has nothing to do with the story, this kid and the fact that he was on the radar of the police since 2019, they confiscated 16 knives and a sword and his social media platform was filled with disturbing messages. Why did and how could the police drop the ball on this guy? That’s the story.

Mass shootings are becoming as everyday as fender benders in the US -

No, they’re not especially if you put it in that context.

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AR-15 for hunting

Ive never read anyone saying an AR-15 for hunting.

It's because other people have the AR-15 and use it illegally that people feel a need to own one for protection.

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Ive never read anyone saying an AR-15 for hunting.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-truth-about-the-ar-15-rifle/

It's because other people have the AR-15 and use it illegally that people feel a need to own one for protection.

If they are law abiding and have no criminal record, of course they legally can.

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According to the Gun Violence Archive, Highland Park was the 316th mass shooting in the US – defined as where four or more people are hit by bullets – this year.

Welcome to Build Back Better World!

Nothing built, nothing back and definitely nothing better.

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Ive never read anyone saying an AR-15 for hunting.

There are lots of reasons some people prefer AR15s for hunting.

"Here Are 7 Animals Hunters Kill Using an AR-15"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/%3famp=true

Although I'm not sure how many feral pigs or goats there are in suburban Chicago.

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By the way the gun was purchased “locally” say the police.

so there goes the “but but they bought it in a red state and took it to Chicago” narrative.

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AR-15s were designed for military use, not civilian. Expert marksmen don't use them to kill feral pigs which invade farms. Even less so when they actually live in Japan where rifles are the only weapon used for killing them.

Five legal obtained weapons and a Jan 6 supporter.

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bass4funk @8:41 am

He was also known to the police for his odd and radical behavior and to all social media platforms. 

Do you think people should have their access to firearms removed because of odd and radical behavior, and what they post on social media?

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Do you think people should have their access to firearms removed because of odd and radical behavior, and what they post on social media?

If it is determined that you pose a threat to others as well as yourself then any and all weapons should be confiscated.

AR-15s were designed for military use, not civilian.

I disagree

Expert marksmen don't use them to kill feral pigs which invade farms.

Depends.

Even less so when they actually live in Japan where rifles are the only weapon used for killing them.

That’s Japan, they have their own laws and way of conducting things, we have our own

Five legal obtained weapons and a Jan 6 supporter

Nice try.

He was a known leftist

https://leohohmann.com/2022/07/05/illinois-shooter-bobby-crimo-tied-to-democratic-socialists-of-america-antifa-and-the-occult/

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Expert marksmen don't use them to kill feral pigs which invade farms. 

Maybe not, but some farmers do.

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Family of AR-15 Inventor Eugene Stoner: He Didn't Intend It for Civilians.

How do Americans living in Japan shoot feral pigs in Texas on a mystery farm? Must be some weapon.

The killer, Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III confirmed to be a raging Trump supporter.

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If it is determined that you pose a threat to others as well as yourself then any and all weapons should be confiscated.

I agree. But who determines that? The social media platforms? There's a privacy issue there, not to mention the freedom of speech. I say that, fully acknowledging there are limits to the freedom of speech such as making specific threats and so on, but who decides where those limits are?

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How do Americans living in Japan shoot feral pigs in Texas on a mystery farm?

Maybe it’s called owning two properties….

The killer, Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III confirmed to be a raging Trump supporter.

He was a known leftist

https://leohohmann.com/2022/07/05/illinois-shooter-bobby-crimo-tied-to-democratic-socialists-of-america-antifa-and-the-occult/

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Redstorm,

Family of AR-15 Inventor Eugene Stoner: He Didn't Intend It for Civilians.

Thanks, that's a good read. Although it slightly contradicts the headline. He invented an automatic AR-15 for the military, which they bought and called an M16. The semi-automatic civilian version became popular after he died.

"He designed the original AR-15 in the late 1950s, working on it in his own garage and later as the chief designer for ArmaLite, a then small company in southern California. He made it light and powerful and he fashioned a new bullet for it — a .223 caliber round capable of piercing a metal helmet at 500 yards.

The Army loved it and renamed it the M16.

But after Stoner’s death in 1997, at the age of 74, a semi-automatic version of the AR-15 became a civilian bestseller, too, spawning dozens of copy-cat weapons. The National Rifle Association has taken to calling it “America’s rifle.”"

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Bob FosseToday  08:29 am JST

> The majority of Americans don’t have guns. They’d like their right to be left alone and not get their heads blown off at a July 4th parade upheld. 

Again, most Americans don’t have or want a gun.

Any verifiable statistics?

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rapid fire succession of the AR-15 helps a lot with that.

I use a M134 Minigun mounted on my pickup truck to shoot all those pesky stray pigs on my big Texas farm. ARs are child toys. Get the M134 Minigun if you want to take care of those feral pigs

He was a known leftist

Wrong, fake story. Like when Trump people photoshopped a "Hillary" hat on The Florida school shooter on Nikolas Cruz. His dad is a Trump person and so is he

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Crimo, seen here in a 2021 Twitter post wearing a Trump flag.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/highland-park-parade-shooting-suspect-robert-crimos-disturbing-social-media/

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His dad is a Trump person and so is he

yeah Trump supporters are super known for being wannabe rappers, being "known to law enforcement", having multi colored hair, dressing as anime at rallies, wearing FBI apparel, wearing womens clothes and having facial tattoos including a neck tattoo of the socialist movement/Portland Antifa logo.

So where did you get this Trump supporter info from? CNN doesnt mention it at all.

Election records show his father ran for office as a Democrat.

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Then take your own advice -

Always do.

Do you have anything to add on the shooter?

Dodge -

NO, dodge, stick to the topic. You think had the police acted earlier knowing his mental status could have saved a lot of people?

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More than 200 mass shootings this year. Any other country would call that shameful and would be taking action to correct it. And the preferred weapon used in mass shootings?

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In fact, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history took place during the Trump era. In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas. While not an exhaustive list of every mass shooting that took place during the Trump administration, here are some of the deadliest incidents while Trump was in office:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mass-shootings-under-trump/

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Mass shootings are a plague the United States is unable to prevent or control. Don't matter who is in office.

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In fact, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history took place during the Trump era.

And?

In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas. While not an exhaustive list of every mass shooting that took place during the Trump administration, here are some of the deadliest incidents while Trump was in office:

What is wrong with you guys, the former President has nothing to do with this story, that the Mods let you guys do this is puzzling. Biden has nothing to do with this idiot, Bush didn’t and neither Trump. How about focusing on this guy, the man that pulled the trigger. If you guys can’t because it messes with your bloodlust for Trump then leave it.

While not an exhaustive list of every mass shooting that took place during the Trump administration, here are some of the deadliest incidents while Trump was in office:

Ok and this shooter?

Mass shootings are a plague the United States is unable to prevent or control. Don't matter who is in office.

Exactly! Which is why and back to my original point and that is, no matter who’s in office these crimes will continue, however, each state can and should do its best to enforce the gun laws that are already in the books and forcefully implement them and then on a state level you might very well see progress.

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nice slogan. What can "every American" do about this?

I thought it was our Congressional representatives who need to pass laws on behalf of us?

I believe Democrats control our Congress and our Presidency and I am not their supporter.

Arent we a constitutional republic? what does the Constitution say about private gun ownership?

So what do I need to do in my every American responsibility?

Let me guess...I need to vote Democrat so that they can take our Constitutional rights away, not only guns but many others. Ummm...no thanks!

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Too many states, like Texas, have too few gun laws. Nothing to enforce if it's not law.

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Car drivers must be at least 16 years. Required to obtain a license by passing a driving test. Prevented from driving if they have certain medical conditions. While driving they must not be under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Drivers must have registered tags on their vehicles. Drivers of bigger vehicles like trucks and buses must undergo further training and testing. Must obey all the laws of driving on public roads. For serious offenses, drivers lose their licenses.

There are way more laws for driving than for guns.

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Too many states, like Texas, have too few gun laws. Nothing to enforce if it's not law

We have enough. It’s the liberal flu city sitter out of control, like Chicago, Philly, Los Angeles, Oakland, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Atlanta, The largest industrialized clustered Metropolitan cities they have the largest crimes and none of these governors are doing anything to stop it and as a result and if liberals have been paying attention they are getting beaten in almost every Paul and being replaced by Republicans.

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