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Jury finds Rittenhouse not guilty in Kenosha shootings

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By MICHAEL TARM, SCOTT BAUER and AMY FORLITI

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Of course. Not surprised. This sends the message that free speech is dead. Vigilantes can now shoot willynilly at protesters all they like.

Also, I'm sure that this murderer and the judge went drinking together after this verdict to celebrate their victory. How pathetic.

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Doesn’t matter that little Kyle (here after referred to as LK) didn’t legally have the right to posses an AR. 

Doesn’t matter that he lied about being an EMT. 

Doesn’t matter that nobody made him a cop and he didn’t have a badge. Doesn’t matter that he leveled his weapon at other people first.

All that mattered is that LK was a slightly small, slightly round nice white boy and nice white boys don’t go to prison even if they are wannabe cowboys with guns. 

It’s incredibly frustrating.

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Part of his defense was that he fired because he was afraid the other person would take his gun and fire it at him. The parents of one of the victims pointed out the absurdity of this argument.

That said, and even though I disagree with the verdict, I never thought this dumb kid would be convicted. Not surprised at all.

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If Fox ‘n Little Friends want to paint this pathetic crybaby as an American hero, be my guest.

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He was not convicted because he used self-defense as the law allows. Very simple.

The left wing media tried to make this about race.

He is white, and the people he shot were white.

Some people think violence is ok if it is en masse. If a mob is protesting, and decides to loot, burn and murder, then that is ok. But if someone tried to protect himself from someone with a gun, or hitting him with a brick or skateboard, then there is a problem.

Not guilty. That's a fact here.

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Cry on command boy walks. Good for him he had Harry Potter hair, no publicly visible tattoos , a LOT of money for his defense.

Yeah, he got away with it.

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P. SmithToday  07:06 am JST

The justice system at work.

Exactly. It worked the way it should.

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P. SmithToday  07:09 am JST

Hence my comment. What point are you trying to make?

The justice system at work.

AND:

It worked the way it should.

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No body made little Kyle a cop. He was a child. He attained an AR illegally. He posted about wanting to shoot protesters.

Then he shot more while running like a child.

And the people he shot could claim self-defense. Only LK had shot people and was now running loose.

I understand the letter of the law although I disagree with it.

Im saying that a naughty little boy got a gun and went where he had no place being.

LK got in over his head and freaked. Well kid, actions have consequences.

Mira sad that the jury couldn’t or wouldn’t consider these issues.

LK killed 2 people. The only 2 to die that night. He permanently injured another. And he walks in part because he’s white, young, short and “round”

As an American, it’s vey frustrating.

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plasticmonkeyToday  07:01 am JST

Part of his defense was that he fired because he was afraid the other person would take his gun and fire it at him. The parents of one of the victims pointed out the absurdity of this argument.

The other person referred to that tried to take his gun was Rosenbaum.

Witnesses described Rosenbaum as “hyperaggressive” and said that he dared others to shoot him and threatened to kill Rittenhouse earlier that night. A videographer testified Rosenbaum lunged for the rifle just before he was shot, and a pathologist said his injuries appeared to indicate his hand was over the barrel.

The jury did not find the argument absurd.

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some on the right hailed him as a hero who exercised his Second Amendment gun rights and tried to put a stop to lawlessness.

Stupid argument. He didn’t have gun rights. He was lawless.

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a tumultuous night of protests over the shooting of a Black man, Jacob Blake, by a white Kenosha police officer.

Rittenhouse, a former police youth cadet, said he went to Kenosha to protect property from rioters. He is white, as were those he shot.

The anonymous jury, which appeared to be overwhelmingly white, deliberated for close to 3 1/2 days.

Sad to see such blatant propaganda pass as news. A boy shot three rioters, one of whom admitted he intended to shoot him, another who was earlier attacking people who were trying to extinguish fires he started, etc. All white, as if that matters. The citations of skin color bolded above harken back to the days of segregation, and become even more bizarre as the incident involved only white people.

And, of course, burning, beating, terrorizing and destroying poor neighborhoods and businesses is just "a tumultuous night of protests." But non-violently walking into the capital building in a buffalo costume is terrorism.

The US is done, despite the increasingly rare victory of common sense.

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What if......

We “libs” started legally purchasing ARs.....

And started to show up to demonstrate our “constitutional rights “?

How would that be?

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GdTokyoToday  07:37 am JST

What if......

We “libs” started legally purchasing ARs..... 

And started to show up to demonstrate our “constitutional rights “?

The "what ifs" have already been answered when you "libs" justified all the violence in the "protests" last year.

And the "what Ifs" was answered when one of the persons shot by Rittenhouse had a gun with him. The answer is, if you threaten someone with a firearm, that other person has the right to self-defense and is entitled to shoot you. No ifs about that.

But the issue in this trial was not constitutional rights. It was the right to self-defense.

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Congratulations Kyle !

Dont get discouraged cuz GoFundme canceled you. There are other sites and many will help. Besides, you will be needed soon as this verdict will probably lead to more peaceful protests with rioting looting and arson by “some blue-haired, latte-drinking hippie in Seattle coming here to raise hell while they go home to their nice beds,".

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/tgif-inflation-rises-russiagate-falls

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Yet another criminal set free because of the privilege he enjoys.

He’ll be back in prison soon though, criminals generally do !!!

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What would have been the verdict if he had been black?

And if he had gone to Klan rally to protect minorities in the area.

If he survived the klan thugs, the police would have shot him!!!

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zichiToday  07:59 am JST

Why was he there in the first place with an illegal AR?

Irrelevant.

Same as asking, Why were the people who were shot there?

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He hangs out with supremacists, proud boy thugs, and the judge disallowed the prosecution from using that.

But as I said, he is a criminal who will commit a crime sooner or later. More people will die before we realize how skewed the justice system is!!!

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I hope he sues every media company and politician out there for defamation of character. They should have learned from losing from the case 2 years ago.

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But the law would be the same. It doesn't change based on race. So, no matter the race of the defendant, the law is applied the same way. And in this case there was a right to self defense.

ROFL, none of that is correct.

A man with an automatic rifle gets away claiming self defense against unarmed people.

And the armed man went into the area looking to provoke people and yet he gets away with self defense!!!!

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ulyssesToday  08:14 am JST

He hangs out with supremacists, proud boy thugs, and the judge disallowed the prosecution from using that.

Because it is irrelevant. This case is not about race.

But as I said, he is a criminal who will commit a crime sooner or later. More people will die before we realize how skewed the justice system is!!!

He is not a criminal because he does not have a criminal record.

You know who does have a criminal record? One of the shooting victims and witnesses--Grosskreutz:** **domestic abuse, drunk driving, burglary, possessing a loaded gun while drunk, trespassing, and others.

And he brought an illegal firearm with him that night.

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And he brought an illegal firearm with him that night.

He was also killed by someone with an illegal firearm.

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Because it is irrelevant. This case is not about race.

A supremacist shooting people is all about race.

He is not a criminal because he does not have a criminal record.

He killed 2 unarmed people and yet doesn’t have a criminal record. Thank you for proving my point about the skewed justice system!!!

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You know who does have a criminal record? One of theshooting victims and witnesses--Grosskreutz:** **domestic abuse, drunk driving, burglary, possessing a loaded gun while drunk, trespassing, and others.

Yet he never killed anyone, Kyle killed 2 people.!!!

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P. SmithToday  08:28 am JST

We know this is a demonstrably false statement given the numerous studies that demonstrate the law is not applied the same between white defendants and non-white defendants.

Then demonstrate it.

But you can't, because the defendant in this case was white.

ulyssesToday  08:29 am JST

A supremacist shooting people is all about race.

Ahh, okkkk.

He killed 2 unarmed people and yet doesn’t have a criminal record. Thank you for proving my point about the skewed justice system!!!

That was your point? One of the persons shot was hitting him in the head with a skateboard.

My point was it is justifiable to kill two people in self-defense.

It is not just my point, it is the law. And the jury here proved it. So it is not even my opinion.

It is fact.

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The far-right in this country think it's OK for an underage 17 year old youth to illegally procure an assault rifle, join up with a group of far-right radicals and Neo-Nazis, storm through the streets of a major US city, and use deadly force against other citizens....

And why weren't his parents put on trial for allowing all this?

Welcome to MAGA-world....

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Excellent news! Should never have even come to trial.

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The far-right in this country think it's OK for an underage 17 year old youth to illegally procure an assault rifle, join up with a group of far-right radicals and Neo-Nazis, storm through the streets of a major US city, and use deadly force against other citizens....

The far-left thinks it is ok to destroy, loot and kill others because a court case doesn't go the way they feel.

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LK killed 2 people. The only 2 to die that night. He permanently injured another. And he walks in part because he’s white, young, short and “round” 

As an American, it’s vey frustrating.

Look, Rittenhouse is no hero, he shouldn’t have been there, however once he was there he did have a right to self-defense and the prosecution was beyond horrible, they failed to make a case, they were irresponsible and tampered with evidence and introduced evidence at the eleventh hour without sharing it with the defense and right there violated his entire constitutional right to a fair trial and other antics and we could go on and on and yes, he killed two and injured one and looking at all of their rap sheets, it was very difficult for the jury to see them as the victims and Kyle as the aggressor, the video spoke for itself, there was just no way any jury with a bit of logical sense would have convicted that kid. Convict him on what? For not allowing himself to become a victim? The media was also a factor, and this President calling him a White supremacist was all a lie and I hope now that he is a free man will sue for defamation. That was really the true frustration as an American. This was a great day for justice. Again, he should not have been there, but a monster and murderer, I don’t think so, neither the jury and most sensible people.

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The far-right in this country think it's OK for an underage 17 year old youth to illegally procure an assault rifle,

No

join up with a group of far-right radicals and Neo-Nazis, storm through the streets of a major US city, and use deadly force against other citizens....

Nope, the prosecution couldn’t even make the case, they had his phone, it what’s thoroughly searched and there was nothing on it that showed he was a racist, Rosenbaum and Grosskreutz on the other hand from their arrest records did have a few racial incidents in them, you got them with Kyle confused. Rosenbaum is on record saying the N-word and wanting to get some BLM protestors. Again, the record matters.

And why weren't his parents put on trial for allowing all this?

If you make that case why weren’t the parents of the people that Kyle killed and injured?

Welcome to MAGA-world....

That narrative is not helping your argument or the entire argument according to reality and the law. You had a liberal judge that did his job and followed the constitution and liberals are just unhappy that another liberal actually followed the law.

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acquitted of ALL charges.

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This is NOT ok, by the way.

“Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'”

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ulyssesToday  08:19 am JST

ROFL, none of that is correct.

It is correct. It is called the Constitution.

A man with an automatic rifle gets away claiming self defense against unarmed people.

One of those people had a gun, the other was hitting Rittenhoue in the head and neck with a skateboard, and the other hit him with a brick.

And the armed man went into the area looking to provoke people and yet he gets away with self defense!!!!

Nope, it is the reverse. The people who provoked him, the people who were armed and attacked him, got meted out the ultimate justice.

That's the law. The right to self defense.

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Should get an oscar for his crying performances

Give me a break! You’re not in this kids shoes! Even though he did what he had to do to defend himself he still took a life and injured a person that resulted in getting half of his arm amputated it is very overwhelming for a child. He had every reason to be upset. He didn’t run, he turned himself in. No criminal or vigilante would do that. The left have victimized, bullied and demonized this kid and you had a jury that was made up of 5 men and 7 women and to them the prosecution completely blew the case and couldn’t establish guilt, quite the opposite and that is why he was acquitted on “all 5 charges.” Wait until he files a lawsuit, this is nowhere from being over.

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MAGA parents be like....

CRT (which doesn't exist) is a major threat to our children and should be cancelled immediately...we'll protest at every school board...

On the other hand, giving them assault weapons and letting them hang with far-right domestic terrorists, who then rampage through the streets shooting people......sure, nothing wrong with that....

Welcome to MAGA-world....

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This was actually needed to give gun owners enough guts to defend themselves, (a theme which seems to be lacking). However, this case was so obvious it crossed the border into ridiculous, there was no case against Kyle at all.

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he still took a life 

Two lives.

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lincolnmanToday  09:00 am JST

Welcome to MAGA-world....

The angry mob didn't get its way.

CRT was not an issue in this case.

The AvengerToday  09:02 am JST

This was actually needed to give gun owners enough guts to defend themselves, (a theme which seems to be lacking). However, this case was so obvious it crossed the border into ridiculous, there was no case against Kyle at all.

Excellent point.

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MAGA parents be like....

Has nothing to do with Trump, get over it.

CRT (which doesn't exist)

Not according to the millions of people that voted in VA. and what they have seen. McAuliffe tried to spin it and no one bought it, no one.

is a major threat to our children and should be cancelled immediately...we'll protest at every school board...

which is their right as a parent.

On the other hand, giving them assault weapons and letting them hang with far-right domestic terrorists, who then rampage through the streets shooting people......sure, nothing wrong with that....

Sorry, none of the jurors bought that ludicrous arguments and despite the medias defamation, this White House and the prosecution and the threats didn’t influence the jurors whatsoever. The justice system worked.

Welcome to true justice.

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I bet they’re boarding up Foot Locker as we speak!

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Yea I’m watching the “protesters” now. Just one time can they not burn something or steal anything?

Likely not as they have been racially incited by Dems.

despite no Black people being shot which is somehow lost in all this racist rhetoric.

Rittenhouse should sue everyone involved, including media, and Biden.

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Former President Donald Trump released a statement on Friday night congratulating Kyle Rittenhouse, following the verdict which found Rittenhouse not guilty on all charges.

"Congratulations to Kyle Rittenhouse for being found INNOCENT of all charges. It’s called being found NOT GUILTY—And by the way, if that’s not self defense, nothing is!," Trump said

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The prosecution pointed an AR-15 towards the jury in the courtroom and the prosecutor saying everyone gets a beating and questioning Kyle’s 5th amendment rights, they ticked off the judge a few times, this trial was a complete farce and most of the prosecutions witnesses helped Rittenhouse. It was a joke and the jury thankfully never allowed the media, msnbc and the other race dividers in the media to bully them into handing out the verdict THEY wanted.

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This outrageous verdict given by a jury unsubtly groomed by an incompetent, biased judge is just another sign that AmeriKKKa is ever faster circling the drain down to a Weimar-style banana republic.

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MAGA parents be like....

Has nothing to do with Trump, get over it.

Thanks for bringing up Trump - I never mentioned his name....sure shows your obsession....

CRT (which doesn't exist)

Not according to the millions of people that voted in VA. and what they have seen. McAuliffe tried to spin it and no one bought it, no one.

You mean the millions that were conned by Youngkin and Fox? OK...

is a major threat to our children and should be cancelled immediately...we'll protest at every school board...

which is their right as a parent.

Sure, and giving their kids a deadly weapon and letting them hang out with Neo Nazis administering vigilante justice is OK too, huh?

Welcome to true justice.

MAGA-style...just like they're OK with pardoning Bannon when he conned them out of money for "a wall"....

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/bannon-build-the-wall-indictment/index.html

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We “libs” started legally purchasing ARs

Do me a favor, go grab the proof or evidence of his political affiliation.

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Trump had it right before the election. Love the guy!

“He was trying to get away from them, I guess ... and he fell,” Trump claimed, citing videos of the Rittenhouse attack. “And then they very violently attacked him.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-defends-kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting_n_5f4d71aac5b64f17e1419ba5

Biden on the other hand, had it wrong. And he could be sued now.

Just like Rittenhouse can sue MSNBC, CNN, and the other lefty media outlets that defamed him. And will likely win.

Justice is sweet.

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Tucker will have an interview 40 min with Rittenhouse. Should be very interesting.

Thanks for bringing up Trump - I never mentioned his name....

But his slogan, so yeah, you made a reference.

sure shows your obsession....

Not mine, I don’t live in VA, the people that live there in that blue state documented it. If it wasn’t true Youngkin wouldn’t have won.

You mean the millions that were conned by Youngkin and Fox? OK...

Nice try, either way, the State flipped back to Red and name calling won’t change it or help the Dems especially for next year.

Sure, and giving their kids a deadly weapon and letting them hang out with Neo Nazis administering vigilante justice is OK too, huh?

Yeah, the prosecution tried that but after reading all of the aggressors records, they realized who the racists were.

-Welcome to true justice.

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Rittenhouse shots 3 whites, kills 2 of them and injures 1 but is called a White supremacist? That charge alone made the jury scratch their heads.

So as expected. This isn’t about justice at all, but about owning the libs and whichever media platform you choose to dislike. Sad.

No, the left are the ones that started this. They were the ones that immediately branded this kid as a racist and white supremacist, even the liberal judge was tired of msnbc, not to mention that network sent a freelancer photographer to get a picture of the jurors faces. He banned them from the courtroom, he was threatened by the left mob as was the jury, no one allowed the justice system to play out, they just said, the kid was a vigilante and was on the hunt. The jury deliberated for 25 hours and they couldn’t see in any sensible case that the prosecution made a sound and legitimate case. It’s not about who owns whom, it’s about that this kid has the absolute right to a free and fair trial without prejudice.

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This shameful, head-hanging verdict should be a cue for the Nobel Laureate from the North country to pen another protest song: "The Lonesome Deaths of Rosenbaum and Grosskreutz" with the same old tune and refrain: "

Oh, but you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,

Bury the rag deep in your face

For now’s the time for your tears."

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This outrageous verdict given by a jury unsubtly groomed by an incompetent, biased judge is just another sign that AmeriKKKa is ever faster circling the drain down to a Weimar-style banana republic.

Wow. Taking your favorite catch phrases and plopping them into a sentence? Most incoherent comment of the year.

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It is correct. It is called the Constitution.

It is not!!!

The person who helped OJ get away with murder helped kyle do the same. It’s about abusing the judicial system, nothing to do with the Constitution!

One of those people had a gun, the other was hitting Rittenhoue in the head and neck with a skateboard, and the other hit him with a brick.

No one fired at kyle, one person threw a plastic bag at him!!! And kyle shot them with an AR15!!!! Nothing to do with self defense, just another racist coward going in a shooting spree!!!

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Cry on que boi now gets to sign a book deal and go on every right-wing talk show to discuss how hard this has been for him.

meanwhile the only 2 people to die in the riots were shot by this wannabe cowboy.

Not a cop

Not an EMT (he lied)

Nobody asked him to be there.

By the way Where the hell were his parents? The odds that either of my 17 year old children would have been able to acquire an illegal AR and sneak out during a riot EVEN IF WE WERE IN AMERICA, are zero.

So the small round white boy with the Harry Potter hair gets to walk in spite of being a wannabe cowboy.

Hope he never needs a job, or an education or anything else from polite society.

Because the jury might have given him a pass but we, the rational majority, most certainly have not.

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Rittenhouse's mother, sitting several feet away from him on a courtroom bench, gasped in delight, began crying and hugged others around her.

And this goes to the crux of the issue, doesn't it. Irrespective of whether he was guilty of murder, what mother would let her 17 year old underage son illegally purchase an assault rifle, then allow him to take that weapon to another state with the intention of joining a group of Neo-Nazis, who plan to roam the streets enforcing vigilante justice...

The real injustice here is his mother (and father) somehow evading their accountability for their horrific actions as parents allowing all of this to occur.

If one of them did the right thing and just said "no" when he said he was taking a gun and going to another state to join armed vigilantes, none of this would have happened.

Let alone all the other victims in this situation, the scaring and trauma that their son went through is entirely their fault...

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The new face of white entitlement in America.

Ugh.

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That dumb kid had no business being at that protest with an assault rifle. His dumb mother had no business taking him there knowing he had an assault rifle and the police had no business allowing a teenager to run around playing G.I. Joe with an assault rifle among a crowd of people.

Somebody was guilty of something that's for sure.

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