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Kavanaugh accuser wants FBI investigation before she will testify

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A little scared of the "under Oath" thingy.

Especially since other people who were at the same party have come forward and are willing to testify against her version of events.

Justice has been served.

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How do you NOT have the third person in the room testify? Not calling Mr. Judge looks bad; we can therefore assume what he'd say would be even worse.

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How do you NOT have the third person in the room testify? Not calling Mr. Judge looks bad; we can therefore assume what he'd say would be even worse.

Oh, please, if this woman were that serious, she would immediately run to testify under oath, Kavanaugh did, he wants to testify now, this very moment, I'm not saying nothing happened, but if she's dancing around and not getting back to WH officials that she is willing to testify under oath, the left can make excuses all they want, everyone can see what this is.

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Believes someone from 36 years ago whose evidence is just “I say so”. So much so that he wants Kavanaugh out even before a hearing.

But he doesn’t believe Keith Ellison’s accuser from this year. Who has witnesses, medical records and other evidence.

Tells me all I need to know what this is about.

"I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor here," Blumenthal said. "

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Only conclusion I missed was Roy Moore. I underestimated how just enough people could be misled/shamed enough to make him lose. But that’s ok cause the guy elected still votes with Trump more than half the time cause he wants to get elected again.

So what’s your conclusion on this case? Myself I’m curious why there is no anger at the Democrats who made this public when she specifically asked that it not be.

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One bright spot for Kavanaugh is that he isn't going to jail, unlike so many other Trump appointees.

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One bright spot for Kavanaugh is that he isn't going to jail, unlike so many other Trump appointees.

Of course the man is not going to prison, what for?

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There is even a yearbook in this case too. According to CNN and their breathless reporting, it “raises eyebrows” yeah a 1983 yearbook looked at in 2018 just might. Not even Kavanugh’s yearvook but the school itself. But Kavanaugh is obviously responsible for its content, right?

conveniently the accuser’s yearbook nowhere to be found and all her social media deleted in advance.

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For attempted rape, obviously.

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Let Kavanaugh's story be an inspiration to the countless men who've been falsely accused.

Stand your ground, maintain your innocence and your accuser will inevitably back down.

I think at this point she should be compelled to testify under oath because she made such a serious accusation against him and disrupted the proceedings of government with her shenanigans.

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Conservatives junoingbto conclusions before the facts have been revealed. Just like a broken record.

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Mark Judge would perjure himself, which is why they're keeping him from testifying.

GOP is avoiding the truth, and is trying to dangle a shiny object to distract everyone from the fact that ONE other person besides Kavanaugh was accused and in the room. You'd think, if they were innocent, they'd have Judge testify to bolster Kavanaugh. His absence is a tell that Judge is a real issue, and there's fire behind this smoke.

One thing you can always count on with the GOP is the cover-up. Watergate, Iran-Contra, 9/11 warnings, etc. These guys have no ethics, no morals, no shame.

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"I feel so badly for him that he's going through this, to be honest with you," Trump told a news conference. "... This is not a man that deserves this."

Anyone Trump attacks "deserves it," but people attack Trump or his appointees, and those people are out of control, etc. so transparent.

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So now she wants a full FBI investigation BEFORE she testifies. She is complaining she can’t stay at her home due to threats. yet still no blame for the Dems who leaked her name and allegations in the first place

Move forward with the confirmation. If anything found in the investigation they can remove him later.

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This is turning into nothing but a delaying tactic by the democrats. The whole thing had become one hurdle after another before any facts are presented. The only conclusion is that there are no facts that can be corroborated and that the whole leak has been orchestrated.

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Oh relax. He will get voted through. Even if she had proof there’s no way the GOP would let a woman derail a strong man looking to advance the conservative agenda.

Women are chattel to the GOP.

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Ha! Repubs are looking panicked. "Confirm him and we can remove him later"? "A delaying tactic by the Democrats"? Good God! Have you not been keeping up with recent history?!

Really, Kavanaugh's actions years ago are less important than his actions now. One judged to have been dishonest or misleading is clearly unfit for SCOTUS. And, frankly, from my paltry knowledge, it does not look good for him. He seems to have a pattern of lying; perhaps that's why Trump chose him - kindred souls.

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First of all, Brett Kavanaugh should withdraw his name on the grounds of public doubt about his character. Period.

Regarding an investigation, sure, why not? We waited for over 400 days when Obama was president, so what's the mad rush now? Secondly, why hold a hearing without an investigation first. Thirdly, we're talking about a permanent position on the United States Supreme Court and a nominee being chosen by a president who's basically under investigation for committing treason.

Yeah, it's time to take a deep breath and slow down. Let the FBI look into this and find out whether or not this allegation of sexual assault has legs or not. There's no hurry.

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It’s a shrewd move by Ford now that I think about it. Everyone knows the GOP will invite her in, let her speak, then ask her to leave so they can confirm Kavanaugh.

An investigation, on the other hand, is unbiased, impartial, and has the ability to actually mean something. The public will get to see everything as well. The GOP will be forced to admit that their decision to let her speak is just lip service and they want to avoid anything that might derail their justice.

I still think they will confirm him, but they might lose votes in the midterms along the way.

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If anything found in the investigation they can remove him later.

No they can't.

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Or rather, they won't.

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Either fatal car accident or hush money.

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I get the feeling that the reason Feinstein waited until the last minute to throw the woman out there is because she was desperate. If she had a solid case she would have leaked her name much earlier in July when she was initially informed about Ford. I give Feinstein credit for the Alynskyite tactics but there is no way to prove her allegations. This is just red meat for her political base.

Ford is a politically active Leftist so there is an alternative motive for the possibility that she is making a false allegation. There is also the fact that she would surely become a celebrity in her apparently Leftist work and social circles like Anita Hill.

Hopefully Ford will come to realize that Feinstein’s outing of her is proof that she is being used and the Senator doesn’t have her best interests at heart. If she doesn’t show up next week or starts making outlandish demands of the Senate Judiciary Committee that would indicate that she is having second thoughts about allowing the Dems to use her like they so obviously are.

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Mark Judge would perjure himself, which is why they're keeping him from testifying. 

How would you know that? Oh, that’s right, you don’t.

GOP is avoiding the truth, and is trying to dangle a shiny object to distract everyone from the fact that ONE other person besides Kavanaugh was accused and in the room. 

Really? Kavanaugh wants to testify, his accuser now doesn't, but wants the FBI to investigate which they already said they will not. So who’s avoiding the truth? Not the GOP.

You'd think, if they were innocent, they'd have Judge testify to bolster Kavanaugh. His absence is a tell that Judge is a real issue, and there's fire behind this smoke.

So where is this woman? Hello?

One thing you can always count on with the GOP is the cover-up. Watergate, Iran-Contra, 9/11 warnings, etc. These guys have no ethics, no morals, no shame.

ROFL! Unlike The Dems countless of cover-ups, these people can’t say a single word.

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How would you know that? Oh, that’s right, you don’t

The same way you know Mueller has nothing in Trump. Oh, that's right, you don't.

Really? Kavanaugh wants to testify, his accuser now doesn't, but wants the FBI to investigate which they already said they will not. So who’s avoiding the truth? Not the GOP

The GOP is definitely avoiding the truth by not ordering an investigation. The FBI is corrupt anyway.

So where is this woman? Hello?

Waiting for an investigation to occur. Hello?

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The same way you know Mueller has nothing in Trump. Oh, that's right, you don't.

No, but if he did we would have already known about it, so the likelihood of him having anything other than a contrived obstruction charge, there’s nothing.

The GOP is definitely avoiding the truth by not ordering an investigation. The FBI is corrupt anyway.

FBI said they not gonna touch it and how do you poop or just screw something that happened back in 1983 when two people were around 16 and 17 years old, that’s just nutty and insane! Kavanaugh is completely ahead of this and WANTS to testify under oath and his accuser.....where is she? Oh, now she’s incognito....uh-huh...

Waiting for an investigation to occur. Hello?

That won’t happen, so now what’s the plan?

Cheats, pedophiles, rapists. 

The Democrats sure are an exclusive club, they definitely got all the money.

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If he did we would have already known about it

No.

how do you poop or just screw something that happened back in 1983 when two people were around 16 and 17 years old

You investigate.

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The timing of the revelation was not determined by the Democrats but by the person making the allegation herself. Why do people purposely say things they know to be untrue - i.e. that the Democrats 'sat on' it?

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No.

Yes, we would have, this circus has been going on and on and still nothing. Good luck with them trying to hit the President with anything but a possible obstruction charge, if at all and the Senate isn’t going to convict him, but hey, if the left think they have a shot, go for it, looks like Kavanaugh seems more and more vindicated since his accuser is a No show now. The left are running out of options and fast!

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The timing of the revelation was not determined by the Democrats but by the person making the allegation herself. Why do people purposely say things they know to be untrue - i.e. that the Democrats 'sat on' it?

The session is in their blood, they know that losing power is something that is not an option for you, says they can, they will do whatever they can to regain or retain power and if that is through lies and deception, so be it.

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Yes, we would have

No.

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Dr. Ford has asked for an FBI inquiry before she testifies.

Considering that her testimony will turn out to be a 'she said, he said', this should be a perfectly reasonable request.

But then nothing is reasonable for the 'Exclusive Club' Party.

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The Democrats sure are an exclusive club, they definitely got all the money.

I don't understand, are Democratic party members bad because they're rich? Because you've spent a lot of time saying that Trump is smart because he is rich. It follows that if Democratic Party members have all the money, they must be the smartest.

You advocate tax cuts for the rich, because you deify the wealthy. But you think that Democratic Party members are bad because they have a lot of money?

Do you have a political philosophy beyond "democrats bad"?

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The session is in their blood, they know that losing power is something that is not an option for you, says they can, they will do whatever they can to regain or retain power and if that is through lies and deception, so be it.

This does not answer my question as to why certain people insist on repeating things they know to be untrue. Of course we don't expect truth from Don Jr but in general, can you help us out here?

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No, but if he did we would have already known about it, so the likelihood of him having anything other than a contrived obstruction charge, there’s nothing

That's not how investigations work. You guys rip the republican resistance inside the WH for leaking but expect someone on Mueller's team to leak.

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That won’t happen, so now what’s the plan?

I wonder if this prediction will be like your predictions about the IG report showing corruption, Rudy shutting down Mueller straight away, etc.

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Yes, we would have, this circus has been going on and on and still nothing. 

Why do you despise the rule of law, which is predicated on investigations running their courses?

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No

Ok, you say No, and I say yes. We will just have to agree to disagree. You feel you’re right and I feel I’m right.

But then nothing is reasonable for the 'Exclusive Club' Party.

Like What? The only thing I remember back in 1983, music was at its greatest, people were getting on my nerves with the Rubiks Cube, Democrats were sorta kinda normal but still sneaky, other than that, it’s all a blur. If the Feds think this is a joke, then they’re on to something.

That's not how investigations work. You guys rip the republican resistance inside the WH for leaking but expect someone on Mueller's team to leak

I know hard investigation works, but liberals keep getting their hopes up so, so high and then every time they come crashing down with each time more fractured than before. Last week Liberals were excited that they might get Texas and now, that dream is going to die a miserable death. Guys, stop biting off more than you can chew, Trump is not going to jail. I’m trying to save you all the heartbreak of a huge letdown.

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Why do you despise the rule of law, which is predicated on investigations running their courses?

I love the law, can’t say the same about the left and by the way, if you all love the law so much, then why aren’t you guys outraged about the allegations surrounding Keith Ellison? Should he serve in office given the serious charges? How about Juanita Broderick, should the Feds re-open her case as well concerning the former President? She was laughed and mocked then, Feinsten didn’t want to hear from her then, so now that we live in a different era, you do agree with me, These two cases should be looked into, right?

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I love the law, can’t say the same about the left and by the way,

That's not what your constant disparagement of Mueller, the FBI, and DoJ demonstrate. Not to mention your incessant calls for Trump to pardon convicted criminals.

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I love the law, can’t say the same about the left and by the way, if you all love the law so much, then why aren’t you guys outraged about the allegations surrounding Keith Ellison?

If you love the law so much, why don't you want the Mueller investigation wrapped up before it's done correctly?

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The GOP is already sweating the likely outcome of the mid-terms, and the Federalist Society has a long list of potential supreme court nominees cut from the same cloth as Kavanaugh. They are rushing to confirm him because they fear losing both the House and the Senate in November, but would probably throw him under the bus if it looks like continuing to support him will cost them seats in Congress. Their primary goal is holding on to power.

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expat - yes, they would throw him under a bus, but then they would have to start from scratch during an election season. My guess is that they'll try to push him through. The two questions are will they succeed and how much collateral damage they will incur. A worst-case scenario is, no, and a lot.

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“We believe Dr. Blasey Ford and are grateful that she came forward to tell her story,” says a draft letterfrom alumnae of Holton-Arms, a private girls school in Bethesda, Maryland. “It demands a thorough and independent investigation before the Senate can reasonably vote on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to a lifetime seat on the nation’s highest court.”

The women also say that what Ford is alleging “is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alumnae-christine-blasey-ford-apos-143943104.html

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My guess is that they'll try to push him through. The two questions are will they succeed and how much collateral damage they will incur. A worst-case scenario is, no, and a lot.

He probably will get pushed through, God willing as for collateral damage, the Dems need to think of a better tactical smear scheme.

@chip

Ok, I get it, so where is the crime, how do you know she is credible, even Feinstein said, now upon further looking into this, maybe there are holes in story perhaps. Trust me, I want this woman to testify, Kavanaugh is ready, she seems not.....hmmm....

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Ok, I get it, so where is the crime, how do you know she is credible, even Feinstein said, now upon further looking into this, maybe there are holes in story perhaps. Trust me, I want this woman to testify, Kavanaugh is ready, she seems not.....hmmm....

Sexual assault would be the crime.

Kf you want her to testify, you should support an investigation.

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The GOP will try to approve a rapist for the SCOTUS. They do not care. Of course this happened. Ford has taken a lie detector test and it proved that she was telling the truth. Kavanaugh will not do that as he knows he he will fail. She has taken a lie detector test and Kavanaugh has not. She spoke about the attempted rape years and years ago for personal reasons not for political reasons. This happened and everyone knows it to be true. But the Republicans will vote for a rapist anyway. They voted for a deviant for President and of course they knew it when they voted for him, the Access Hollywood sexual harassment tapes were public before the election. Did not matter.

Yes the decent thing here to do is to withdraw the nomination. Not gonna happen. The word decent and Republican do not have any linkage. That is why they will lose so badly in a few weeks. 70% of Americans know the President and his party are total conmen.

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Ok, you say No, and I say yes. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Facts have no agreement or not, they are either fact or not. In this case, not. You can try to pretend that the factually incorrect thing you are saying is a matter of opinion, but it's not. It's fact, and you are incorrect about it.

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Did Kavanaugh lie during his hearing?

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Sexual assault would be the crime.

Kf you want her to testify, you should support an investigation.

They won't, what is it that the left doesn't get about that. We all see what the Dems are doing, they never wanted him to be on the SC, they said flat out they didn't even want to meet with him, then they grilled him and asked him some of the most ridiculous questions in detail and calmly, then they tried to grandstand, had planted disrupters jump up every few minutes, nothing rattled him, the man passed every single thorough investigation and background check and now the Dems sit for 6 weeks on an alleged so called crime. gives the accuser the benefit of a doubt and asks her to come and testifies, she declines and wants the FBI to investigate an alleged crime 36 years ago, but this woman doesn't recall a time or day or location of the events. There are so many holes on this ship, there is no way of patching it. Of course the Dems want to slow this process down...gee...wonder why? Again, I would support this 100% but why don't the Dems do an investigative prop against Keith Ellison? Or do we just give a pass to him because he's a Democrat? 

The GOP will try to approve a rapist for the SCOTUS.

What do you know that everyone else doesn't? So we don't believe in the presumption of innocence?

They do not care. Of course this happened.

They do that is why Kavanaugh wants to get this on ASAP.

Ford has taken a lie detector test and it proved that she was telling the truth.

It doesn't mean necessarily you are telling the truth, you can just believe it and the machine will tell you it's the truth. There are so many variables with a polygraph test.

Kavanaugh will not do that as he knows he he will fail. She has taken a lie detector test and Kavanaugh has not. She spoke about the attempted rape years and years ago for personal reasons not for political reasons.

So if she is telling the truth, where is she? She should be the first to want to grab that mic.

This happened and everyone knows it to be true. But the Republicans will vote for a rapist anyway. They voted for a deviant for President and of course they knew it when they voted for him, the Access Hollywood sexual harassment tapes were public before the election. Did not matter. 

Oh, please! You don't know if the allegations are true or not or if they are just made up. Kavanaugh has one of the cleanest reputations on record, every single person can see his record, this woman comes out of nowhere and we just have to blindly believe her because she says so??

Yes the decent thing here to do is to withdraw the nomination. Not gonna happen.

That is what the Dems want, but it won't happen, nor should it.

The word decent and Republican do not have any linkage. That is why they will lose so badly in a few weeks. 70% of Americans know the President and his party are total conmen.

What?

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For clarity's sake, bass4funk, you think that denying someone a hearing to be confirmed a Supreme Court Justice on the basis of ideology is fine, but potentially delaying the confirmation because the nominee could be a criminal is unacceptable? Have I got that right?

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So, she's trying to protect Americans from having an attempted rapist on the Supreme Court, and she's going to be destroyed for it. She's already received death threats. She knows all this and yet she's going ahead and doing it anyway.

That's real bravery and real patriotism.

Ms Blasey Ford has been the target of “vicious harassment and even death threats” since she publicly accused Mr Kavanaugh of assaulting her when both were teenagers.“As a result of these kind of threats, her family was forced to relocate out of their home. Her email has been hacked, and she has been impersonated online,” it said.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/kavanaugh-sexual-assault-accuser-has-received-death-threats-1.3634154

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So if she is telling the truth, where is she? She should be the first to want to grab that mic.

You clearly don't understand what victims of sexual assault go through.

Kavanaugh has one of the cleanest reputations on record,

Yet you fail to provide a link.

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Bass, do you even know why the FBI is declining to investigate this? Didn't think so:

In a statement, a Justice Department spokeswoman said the FBI — which has added a letter from Christine Blasey Ford to Kavanaugh's already completed background report file — had already done all it was going to do, because "the allegation does not involve any potential federal crime."

"The FBI does not make any judgment about the credibility or significance of any allegation," the statement reads. "The purpose of a background investigation is to determine whether the nominee could pose a risk to the national security of the United States. The allegation does not involve any potential federal crime. The FBI's role in such matters is to provide information for the use of the decision makers."

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/649085712/democrats-want-fbi-to-investigate-kavanaugh-allegations-it-likely-wont

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You clearly don't understand what victims of sexual assault go through.

Conservative males usually don't. This is yet another example of refusing to believe the victims of male sexual entitlement/assault (Roy Moore etc).

They can't even contemplate the impact of assault, so the victims must be smeared, ridiculed and in extreme cases (as I said above), destroyed.

And then these conservative males scratch their heads and wonder why it takes so long for victims to come forward. They get confused as to why the Me Too movement is happening.

And sometimes, without any hint of irony - they decry the plight of women in countries like Afghanistan.

Judge, politician, Democrat or Republican - these men need stopping.

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Did Kavanaugh lie during his hearing?

Yes, three times at least so far. The rape attempt denial will be number four.

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Of course the man is not going to prison, what for?

Probably for raping a teenage girl. Most people go to prison when they rape teenage girls, so if he were to have gone to prison, my money would be on it being a result of his raping a teenage girl. Too late for that now due to the statute of limitations, but I assume you are speaking hypothetically.

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I see the lefty talking point is to mention the word “rape” as much as possible.

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All of this is just a stall tactic to try to get the vote for his confirmation pushed back until after the mid-terms. Anyone who disagrees with this is a liar or incredibly naive

This is a false duality. Leave it to conservatives to be so smug they demonstrate their own ignorance.

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