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Mosque gunman opts to represent himself at trial; Ardern vows never to speak his name

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prime minister ardern is one of the most beautiful sight, literally, figuratively and otherwise, to come out of this sad carnage. a beacon of light, hope, inspiration and humanity.

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In cases of such gravity. The suspect could well soon be charged with committing mass murder (the murder of four or more people at one time).

The suspect, whether conducting his own trail defence or instructing council will have to follow strict Criminal Procedure Rules.

Criminal Procedure Rules 2012

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2012/0415/latest/DLM4914717.html

The suspect will not be able or allowed a platform to set out a political agenda.

Any attempt to express views to support any principle, or strategy that can be defined as a political motivated , extreme or otherwise will be held in contempt.

The trail will be halted and the suspects feet won't touch the ground as he is ordered to be taken down to the cells.

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I would certainly hope this occurs behind closed doors, that his name goes unspoken, his picture, video, and manifesto unseen. And any right to pen his murderous memoirs snuffed out.

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I reckon he read that book about Anders Breivik, One of Us, and is copying him. Loon.

Don't know whether he read the book about Breivik, but in his rant he explicitly claimed to be inspired by him. And didn't the Christchurch shooter also claim that he'd made contact with Breivik somehow and that Breivik had approved his actions ahead of time?

Two madmen. Think I'll become religious so I can believe there's a Hell for these people to rot in.

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Hopefully Arden can get her gun control changes through parliament - New Zealand gun owning laws make the place look (on paper) worse than America - I mean people are permitted to buy military weapons? Why?

How long before some racist psycho in another country carries out a similar attack? :(

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What a virtuous woman Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is. Unfortunately, our Australian Prime Minister, Slogan ScoMo, is a racist white supremacist who constantly rants anti asylum, anti Muslim hate speech and is now trying to blame social media for radicalising Tarrant. ScoMo refuses to admit that his constant fear mongering, constant ranting against asylum seekers by calling them murderers, rapists, paedophiles and criminals could have had a contribution in radicalising Tarrant. In the last five years all we have had is a constant fear champagne by The Abbott (ex PM), the Minister for White Supremacy (Deadhead Dutton) and Slogan ScoMo. ScoMo now trying to deflect any responsibility.

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"I implore you: Speak the names of those who were lost, rather than the name of the man who took them," she said

Could not agree more.

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It's clear - if you're a racist, Nazi, or white nationalist, President Trump is your guy...

There are all kinds of people in the world, only 2 presidential candidates. By twisting it this way, you are helping to manipulate and divide the masses. Congrats.

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@BigYen,

Don't know whether he read the book about Breivik, but in his rant he explicitly claimed to be inspired by him. And didn't the Christchurch shooter also claim that he'd made contact with Breivik somehow and that Breivik had approved his actions ahead of time?

Yeah I think he claimed it but Breivik denied it. I read it ages ago, and some of the stuff this guy did reminded me of parts of it. Manifesto, isolated training, reasoning. Anyway, hope he rots in prison.

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"One thing I can assure you - you won't hear me speak his name," she said. Good well said,

"We have been in contact with Facebook; they have given us updates on their efforts to have it removed, good well done!

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison also urged world leaders to crack down on social media companies that broadcast terrorist attacks. excellent well said and done!

The prime minister has also spoken with British Prime Minister Theresa May about the importance of a global effort to clamp down on the distribution of such material. haha good luck with that one, were to blinking spineless to do that, ( we might upset someone, just in case )

As for the perpetrator, how could any solicitor represent him? I am sure some one would. I just hope to god that he makes a mess of it and he get no recognition for his brainwashed ideas, no promotion, the trouble with letting his name go public, is that there could be some one else with that name who has got nothing to do with this idiot will get the backlash from the general public. I hope he gets the book thrown at him and he does his full time in prison. I wish all of those involved with the shooting make a full and speedy recovery.

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I think a lot of racists and Trumpers -- many of whom are racist, and any of whom who deny Trump is racist are DEFINITELY so -- will say this man has an absolute right to freedom of speech (something they would never afford to, say, a perpetrator of 9/11, unless they are Saudis with a lot of money).

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I reckon he read that book about Anders Breivik, One of Us, and is copying him. Loon.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22237163-one-of-us

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In the last five years all we have had is a constant fear campaign...

Agree with you 100%. I understand why the North Americans on JT think Trump is the main culprit here but they don't know the extent to which Morrison, Dutton, Abbott etc. have whipped up fear of Islam in Australia over a long period of time (before Trump ever came to power). Put that together with the rising tide of Islamophobia in Europe - which is precisely what the Christchurch shooter has told us was the key component in his radicalisation - and you have the end result, 50 innocent people dead in Christchurch.

One good thing, buddy, the LNP will be out of power in Oz in just about two months time. I hope.

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It should be an easy trial , "How do your plead ?" Guilty ! … Just take him down.

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And I wonder what Trumpers will say when he get's his turn in the dock and lavishes praise on the US President....the one he believes is a "symbol of renewed white identity..."

Sounds a lot like David Duke;

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138358/charlottesville-protests-david-duke-kkk

Or white nationalist Richard Spencer;

Less than two weeks after the election, Spencer had convened a conference of fellow white nationalists in Washington, and a video of his speech—“Hail Trump! Hail victory,” greeted by Nazi salutes from some in attendance.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/29/trump-cernovich-milo-yiannopoulos-richard-spencer-alt-right-2018-221916

It's clear - if you're a racist, Nazi, or white nationalist, President Trump is your guy...

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Thunderbird2

New Zealand gun owning laws make the place look (on paper) worse than America - I mean people are permitted to buy military weapons? Why

Until now, I think it was a case of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.' Not defending it, the laws obviously need changing, but that is just how it was.

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There are all kinds of people in the world, only 2 presidential candidates. By twisting it this way, you are helping to manipulate and divide the masses. Congrats.

Pointing out a problem cannot be considered as a contribution to that problem. The problem already existed before it was pointed out.

It's clear - if you're a racist, Nazi, or white nationalist, President Trump is your guy...

This was already a problem before it was brought up by the poster who made the post.

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