N Korea fires 2 missiles into sea

And, yet, ignoramuses would have you believe Japan is the 'aggressor' in that area of the world, smh

China and Russia have Kim's back. Trump, too?

Didn't Donny tell us he had this under control? Then again, he says a lot of things can, very few of which are accurate or truthful.

Trump praised the missile launches by Kim for being "very strong and powerful; he is one smart cookie."

@oldman_13

I don’t think we view Japan or North Korea as the aggressors. North Korea is more like that annoying mosquito that won’t stop flying by your ear.

China is clearly the largest aggressor in the area. They are doing their best to expand their borders and the world’s reliance on them. Especially Asia.

Second would probably be Russia.

North Korea is more like that annoying mosquito that won’t stop flying by your ear.

According to the WHO, mosquitoes are the deadliest animal on the planet with 1,000,000 fatalities per year.

Weren’t lil’Kim and Moon strolling in the park like two best friends not too long ago?

Who are we to come between 2 brothers?

South Koreans always make it look like they are self sufficient /reliant. Let them deal with the siblings rivalry.

The world according to the experts...let them build build build..

oldman_13: "And, yet, ignoramuses would have you believe Japan is the 'aggressor' in that area of the world, smh"

I like how no one has brought this up except you. Well done!

As for NK firing the missiles? What is Japan or anyone else going to do about it as long as Kim has Trump's undying love and devotion?

It's eating at me thinking there's US semiconductors in those rockets courtesy of Huawei and other Chinese sources.

"There is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea." - Donald Trump, June 13, 2018.

Trump is useless on North Korea.

Trump is useless on North Korea

Way better than the last 3 Presidents though. By the way, what is the Democrats solution? Do they have one? Probably not, they’re too busy chasing rabbit holes.

Way better than the last 3 Presidents though.

He really isn't.

Again, no country, not NK, not India, not China, not Russia, not Iran, not ..... needs US approval to have a nuclear defence program. There are still some nations that are prepared to take a stand against the attempted global domination by the US. When the US abandons it nuclear weapons then, and only then, should other nations follow suit.

Why would any nation give up its defences so as to make it easier for US invasion/domination. Always keep in mind Iraq, Libya, ....... Keep in mind that the US has been involved in military disputes and war for the past 75 years in its quest to dominate the globe.

Interesting that NK is starting up again with their missile tests at this time. Pretty soon there will be test firings from their new missile carrying submarine.

While world attention focuses on NK's provocations and efforts to deal with Kim, China will be quietly moving into position to mount their attacks on Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Bass:. Way better than the last 3 Presidents though

Oh, OK. Thank God.

He really isn't

He really is. The other 3 didn’t even try to talk to NK one on one or would you prefer Trump go to war?

Again, no country, not NK, not India, not China, not Russia, not Iran, not ..... needs US approval to have a nuclear defence program.

Yeah, they do if they saber rattle and threaten our country with total annihilation, we have every right to stop and neutralize that threat, this is one reason why the US and Russia never went that far. We signed the MAD treaty, if the Russians launch all of theirs, we will do the same, that is what kept us safe. NK and Iran are in a completely category for one thing with Iran you have the Israel and Saudi component and NK you have the Japan and SK component, all allies, all unacceptable.

There are still some nations that are prepared to take a stand against the attempted global domination by the US.

But they won’t go too far, they know where there bread is buttered.

When the US abandons it nuclear weapons then, and only then, should other nations follow suit. 

Ok and back to reality now, if Iran and NK really want to go that road, then we’ll hit them with more punishing sanctions and make it as painful as possible and they’re already hurting the Iranians, add more and it will be devastating.

Why would any nation give up its defences so as to make it easier for US invasion/domination.

Iran and NK don’t have anything we want or need.

Always keep in mind Iraq, Libya, .......

Saddam and Gaddafi No one misses the butcher of Baghdad or fake made so called general Gaddafi.

Keep in mind that the US has been involved in military disputes and war for the past 75 years in its quest to dominate the globe.

And we’ve been helping countries and nations that have become rich and powerful as well as prosperous for equally as long.

He really is.

He really isn't.

The other 3 didn’t even try to talk to NK one on one

They didn't capitulate to and legitimize the NK leader.

or would you prefer Trump go to war?

Like the other three did. Oh wait.

One thing he has been better at though is having NK fire missiles (more than any other president... woohoo winning!) and develop new more sophisticated weapons than they ever had in the past. Great stuff!!

@rlperez@hotmail.com.au

Thats a good idea lets give everyone a nuclear warheads.

unpredictable leaders; who cares

Mental Instability; no concerns

Genocide and racist nationalism; sounds like a party.

The world would be so much interesting if everybody had nuclear device. Yay

I love your logic /s

By far the dumbest comment so far.

please try again

He really isn't.

If he weren’t, then the Democrats would have had a leg up and would have destroyed the guy and they didn’t and it’s not working, so if this guy can destroy 16 professional Republican politicians, one corrupt Secretary of State, a corrupt cop, 18 angry Democrats, 40 FBI agents, hearings after hearings after hearings, Cohen, Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Stormy, Billy Bush, Omar, the Squad and on and on, none of these people could take him down. And the Dems still want to further embarrass themselves and ruin their already tarnished reputation?

This exactly what makes him great. LoL

They didn't capitulate to and legitimize the NK leader.

They didn’t do anything, even try something different other than the traditional Washington protocols.

Like the other three did. Oh wait.

Ok, so you want that. Sigh...I wish liberals would make up their mind.

One thing he has been better at though is having NK fire missiles (more than any other president... woohoo winning!) and develop new more sophisticated weapons than they ever had in the past. Great stuff!!

Anyone die as a result, if they did, then I owe you an apology.

If he weren’t, then the Democrats would have had a leg up and would have destroyed the guy and they didn’t and it’s not working, so if this guy can destroy 16 professional Republican politicians, one corrupt Secretary of State, a corrupt cop, 18 angry Democrats, 40 FBI agents, hearings after hearings after hearings, Cohen, Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Stormy, Billy Bush, Omar, the Squad and on and on, none of these people could take him down. And the Dems still want to further embarrass themselves and ruin their already tarnished reputation?

Irrelevant, we're talking about NK.

They didn’t do anything, even try something different other than the traditional Washington protocols.

They didn't capitulate to and legitimize the NK leader.

Ok, so you want that. Sigh...I wish liberals would make up their mind.

They already have. They know Trump is useless on NK.

Anyone die as a result, if they did, then I owe you an apology.

Maybe not but with their new more sophisticated weapons it's closer now than it ever has been before.

If he weren’t, then the Democrats would have had a leg up and would have destroyed the guy and they didn’t and it’s not working, so if this guy can destroy 16 professional Republican politicians, one corrupt Secretary of State, a corrupt cop, 18 angry Democrats, 40 FBI agents, hearings after hearings after hearings, Cohen, Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Stormy, Billy Bush, Omar, the Squad and on and on, none of these people could take him down. And the Dems still want to further embarrass themselves and ruin their already tarnished reputation?

http://www.aa-koco.com/

Irrelevant, we're talking about NK.

Indeed we are, and since we are, which of the Dem...I mean, socialists can talk to Kim? Any of the new cabinet? How about those liberals?

They didn't capitulate to and legitimize the NK leader.

Yes and they didn’t even try which this President did, face to face.

Ok, so you want that. Sigh...I wish liberals would make up their mind.

They already have. They know Trump is useless on NK.

And they can’t do it better otherwise the Dems would have the White House by there.

Anyone die as a result, if they did, then I owe you an apology.

Maybe not but with their new more sophisticated weapons it's closer now than it ever has been before.

Indeed we are, and since we are, which of the Dem...I mean, socialists can talk to Kim? Any of the new cabinet? How about those liberals?

Which president capitulated to and legitimized the NK leader?

Yes and they didn’t even try which this President did, face to face.

and capitulated to and legitimized the NK leader.

And they can’t do it better otherwise the Dems would have the White House by there.

Capitulating to and legitimizing the NK leader is better than not capitulating to and legitimizing him? Ok got it.

Sneezy - after the last post at least... Very relevant. Well played good sir.

Which president capitulated to and legitimized the NK leader?

So you’re saying he shouldn’t have tried? Wow, more scary evidence why Dems should never get power, they actually think trying everything, even a friendly relationship with a murderous dictator to calm him down is a bad thing. Wow!

Capitulating to and legitimizing the NK leader

Sanctions were never given, one of the reasons Kim executed one of his men and the other 2 sent indefinitely to labor camps.

is better than not capitulating to and legitimizing him? Ok got it.

You keep saying that, like most liberals that never have a better counter offer or a solution, so which Democrat contender could handle Kim?

So you’re saying he shouldn’t have tried? 

Not at all. Where did I say that? He just shouldn't have capitulated or legitimized the NK leader. Completely the opposite of what should have happened.

so which Democrat contender could handle Kim?

You're trying to change the subject. We are talking about the previous three presidents, none of which capitulated to or legitimized the NK leader like Trump did, and you're saying that he's been way better. You're wrong. His capitulating and legitimizing has changed nothing.

Not at all. Where did I say that? He just shouldn't have capitulated or legitimized the NK leader. Completely the opposite of what should have happened.

What’s worse is that NK doesn’t have sanction relief, he does look like he’s losing a bit of weight.

You're trying to change the subject.

No, I’m saying, none of these loudmouth socialists running could never handle Kim, none of them.

and you're saying that he's been way better.

Definitely.

That doesn’t mean it’s not impossible, i never said that, but it severely crippled him as well as Iran. The one thing Kim wants more than anything is sanction relief that is his number one priority, always.

All Trump does is give concessions. China and Russia will get around the sanctions.

If sanctions are so successful against NK, how did they just build a new submarine?

It's not a new submarine. It's a modification of an old 1950s-era Soviet diesel-electric submarine purchased some 20 years ago, modified to carry two or three missiles.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28483496/north-korea-submarine/

NK will soon test the submarine in the Sea of Japan and firing a missile.

As for sanctions, it is liberals like you who favours non-military form of punishments like sanctions. The sanctions were aimed at prohibiting NK from developing and deploying nuclear weapons. Nothing was said about conventional weapons.

All Trump does is give concessions. China and Russia will get around the sanctions.

So what's the acceptable solution?

No, I’m saying, none of these loudmouth socialists running could never handle Kim, none of them.

Yes. Not the subject.

Definitely

Yes... Definitely wrong.

So what's the acceptable solution?

If anyone had an acceptable solution, it would be solved.

Pointing out how Trump is doing it poorly does not require the knowledge of the perfect solution. It simply requires perspective of past results against which to compare the current results. And Trump has done more properly than past presidents by doing something none of them ever did - backsliding the US position on North Korea.

Now, a president who wasn’t inept - aka a good leader - will earn themselves a bit of leeway to try out new approaches that may not do as well through qualified leadership earning the backing of their people.

An inept president criticizes the precious presidents results before achieving any of his own, and alienates half his people losing any goodwill support a qualified leader would have earned.

That’s Trump’s problem. He’s inept and put himself into this position. All due to weak leadership.

Yes. Not the subject.

That is definitely the subject and as to why they’re going to lose big.

That is definitely the subject and as to why they’re going to lose big.

No it isn't. The three prior presidents is. Or you've changed the subject. Which you said you didn't. So either way you're wrong.

No it isn't. The three prior presidents is.

Yes, it is, the 3 last Presidents didn’t do a darn thing to quell the tensions between the South, Japan or the US, but they did give sanction relief, not this President. Not wrong

No it isn't. You start taking about the the last presidents, then change the subject to the current Dems, now back to the three last presidents. Quit changing the subject. But now that we're back to the three last presidents let's keep it there. Different methods, same end result (actually worse under Trump so far). That's not performing better, that's performing worse. Trump gave Kim legitimacy... That was what Kim wanted more than anything else, not sanctions relief as you keep trying to suggest. He already has his number one desire because of Trump.

Nobody responded to Kim like Trump did. Nobody upped the verbal antagonism like Trump did which resulted in more missile testing than ever before and then Trump says ok ok I'll meet you. Trump is a complete disaster on NK. Don't change back to the current Dems now.

No it isn't.

Wrong...

You start taking about the the last presidents, then change the subject to the current Dems,

Because they didn’t do anything except follow the same status quo of Washington as well as easing sanctions provided NK stop enriching its plutonium and each time that was done, they reneged on their promise, Trump tried something different. Yes, he didn’t get the results he wants, but at least there’s a dialogue and that’s a very good thing. It might take some time, it might never happen, but at least Trump is trying something different and not following the same Washington textbook status quo.

now back to the three last presidents.

Lead the way.

But now that we're back to the three last presidents let's keep it there.

Liberals do not control the conversation if it doesn’t go there way.

Different methods, same end result (actually worse under Trump so far). That's not performing better, that's performing worse.

I disagree. No bombs were dropped and Trump still has dialogue, so the other Presidential candidates have absolutely nothing better to offer and none of these socialists would be savvy enough to get Kim’s attention.

Trump gave Kim legitimacy...

The Kim family always had, can’t ignore them.

That was what Kim wanted

But what he wants more than anything and what is extremely vital to his country’s as well as his personal survival is having sanction relief and that’s not going to happen and that’s the Presidents strongest hand.

Wrong...

I know it isn't wrong.

Because they didn’t do anything except follow the same status quo of Washington as well as easing sanctions provided NK stop enriching its plutonium and each time that was done, they reneged on their promise, Trump tried something different. Yes, he didn’t get the results he wants, but at least there’s a dialogue and that’s a very good thing. It might take some time, it might never happen, but at least Trump is trying something different and not following the same Washington textbook status quo.

The current Dems are not the subject. Trump trying something different doesn't make him better when the results have been worse so far. They have been.

Liberals do not control the conversation if it doesn’t go there way.

You're the one trying to change the subject. Not going your way? Lol

I disagree. No bombs were dropped and Trump still has dialogue, so the other Presidential candidates have absolutely nothing better to offer and none of these socialists would be savvy enough to get Kim’s attention.

More missiles were tested yesterday. Have you been paying attention? Other presidential candidates are not the subject. Stop trying to change it.

The Kim family always had, can’t ignore them.

Not like they've had with Trump.

But what he wants more than anything and what is extremely vital to his country’s as well as his personal survival is having sanction relief and that’s not going to happen and that’s the Presidents strongest hand.

His strongest hand is being circumvented all the time. Kind of laughable really.

I know it isn't wrong.

But it is.

The current Dems are not the subject.

They say, they could run the country better, that means geopolitically, sorry, none of these bozos can.

Trump trying something different doesn't make him better

Yeah, it does, he’s not abiding by the Washington old rules.

when the results have been worse so far. They have been. 

Not really, if a bomb was dropped and people killed, I would agree with you, but that didn’t happen.

You're the one trying to change the subject. Not going your way? Lol

No, because I’m not a Democrat that’s on TV screaming at the President, these people complain but have zero solutions...as always...

More missiles were tested yesterday.

Tested, they know not to cross the Sea of Japan or anywhere near it.

His strongest hand is being circumvented all the time. Kind of laughable really.

Kim is looking rather bewildered lately, he should eat better...oh, wait....

But it is.

But it isn't.

They say, they could run the country better, that means geopolitically, sorry, none of these bozos can.

I couldn't care less what they, or you say about that. They aren't the subject.

Yeah, it does, he’s not abiding by the Washington old rules.

Results? Nothing. Ok not better but whatever you believe. If he actually achieves results then I'll accept you're right about it but at the moment he isn't better.

Not really, if a bomb was dropped and people killed, I would agree with you, but that didn’t happen.

With NK having better weapons than ever before that scenario is also closer than ever before.

No, because I’m not a Democrat that’s on TV screaming at the President, these people complain but have zero solutions...as always...

Stick to the original subject.

Tested, they know not to cross the Sea of Japan or anywhere near it.

They landed in the sea of Japan.

Kim is looking rather bewildered lately, he should eat better...oh, wait....

He really should eat better... I agree. Looks like he could cut back.

But it isn't.

It really is though.

I couldn't care less

That’s the problem with Democrats, they could care less.

.

Results? Nothing.

Not giving sanction relief is a result. 3 people in Kim’s entourage suffered severely because they couldn’t change it.

Ok not better but whatever you believe.

We just agree to disagree.

.

With NK having better weapons than ever before

But nowhere even remotely close to the military might of the US and we have newer and state of the art.

.

They landed in the sea of Japan. 

They didn’t hit Japan.

He really should eat better... I agree. Looks like he could cut back.

Sanction relief would help, but wait....

It really is though.

Not following the conversation it isn't.

That’s the problem with Democrats, they could care less.

But they care too much.

Not giving sanction relief is a result. 3 people in Kim’s entourage suffered severely because they couldn’t change it.

Back in the beginning of 2016 Obama imposed some pretty aggressive sanctions on NK. That's also a result.

But nowhere even remotely close to the military might of the US and we have newer and state of the art.

So? They're still proceeding.

They didn’t hit Japan.

You said Sea of Japan, not Japan.

peppy kids: "Thats a good idea lets give everyone a nuclear warheads.

unpredictable leaders; who cares

Mental Instability; no concerns

Genocide and racist nationalism; sounds like a party.

The world would be so much interesting if everybody had nuclear device."

Nuclear warheads are already under unpredictable leaders: US, Israel

Do you consider Trump is mentally stable?

No nation has committed more genocide or been more nationalist and more racist than the US and Israel in the past 75 years. Keep in mind that the US is the ONLY nation that has used nuclear weapons against civilians, women and children.

Every nation needs nuclear devises to avoid US domination and dictatorship. When the US denuclearise, then and only then, should other nations follow suit. Every nation/country that the US has invaded or had their government toppled has not had nuclear weapons.

But they care too much. 

And yet they did nothing, they’re doing nothing still.

Back in the beginning of 2016 Obama imposed some pretty aggressive sanctions on NK. That's also a result.

And Obama like his predecessors didn’t even try to engage in trying to start a dialogue with Kim.

So? They're still proceeding.

Doesn't help you win wars.

You said Sea of Japan, not Japan.

No one died or did they?

And Obama like his predecessors didn’t even try to engage in trying to start a dialogue with Kim.

either you're lying or Trump is.

https://time.com/5617952/trump-lying-obama-kim-jong-un/

Even if he had met with him...

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/9/17100880/north-korea-republicans-right-conservatives-obama

And Obama like his predecessors didn’t even try to engage in trying to start a dialogue with Kim.

Because they were intelligent enough to know it would only legitimize Kim and result in nothing tangible in return. Donny, however, is too intellectually lazy and ignorant to understand this and can't pass up an opportunity to get his ego stroked.

No one died or did they?

No, but that doesn't change you being wildly inaccurate.

And Obama like his predecessors didn’t even try to engage in trying to start a dialogue with Kim.

Heh remember when Obama even suggested the idea?

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/9/17100880/north-korea-republicans-right-conservatives-obama

That was before you guys pulled a complete hypocritical move and suddenly switched to meeting with dictators was deserving of praise, after castigating Obama for even suggesting it.

Complete and utter hypocrisy. Beyond the pale.

either you're lying or Trump is.

Obama’s Administration did

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/obama-north-korea-nuclear-test-227962

Because they were intelligent enough to know it would only legitimize Kim and result in nothing tangible in return.

And the previous administration didn’t get even a handshake...because, the man didn’t care, for him the only thing was to look good and Iran gave that to him, now that nightmare is over thankfully.

Donny, however, is too intellectually lazy and ignorant to understand this and can't pass up an opportunity to get his ego stroked.

And yet, none of the so called smart (lol) Democrats are doing anything about it either. Oh, they’re still chasing rabbits down holes, yeah, keep up the good work.

No one died or did they?

No, but that doesn't change you being wildly inaccurate.

Democrats usually are. I get it.

And the previous administration didn’t get even a handshake...because, the man didn’t care, for him the only thing was to look good

Photo ops with Kim and nothing in return except missiles flying.

and Iran gave that to him, now that nightmare is over thankfully.

Yeah, thankfully Iran is shooting our drones out of the sky, bombing tankers, and causing uncertainty in the oil market.

And yet, none of the so called smart (lol) Democrats are doing anything about it either. Oh, they’re still chasing rabbits down holes, yeah, keep up the good work.

Uhhh . . . The president controls foreign policy. If a democrat did attempt to do anything, you'd be screaming bloody murder.

Democrats usually are. I get it.

Now you're claiming to be a democrat?

Uhhh . . . The president controls foreign policy. If a democrat did attempt to do anything, you'd be screaming bloody murder.

So that’s my point, for any criticism, the Democrats have zero solutions, they never have solid solutions when it comes to geopolitics. But yes, yell, whine, complain, show anger and frustration, manufactured outrage, they do very well.

Obama’s Administration did

Nobody from the administration tried to meet him. The article you linked to says nothing of the sort. Trump lied. Again.

So that’s my point, for any criticism, the Democrats have zero solutions, they never have solid solutions when it comes to geopolitics. But yes, yell, whine, complain, show anger and frustration, manufactured outrage, they do very well.

Different from Republicans how exactly?