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N Korea to dismantle nuclear test site before Trump-Kim talks

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Whether the nuclear site has collapsed or not, at least the action by Kim Pong-Un to destroy the test site will put an end to the disagreements. A welcome gesture of intent from Kim Pong-Un before his summit meeting with Trump.

Who will be the greater showman, Trump or Kim?

Could be that Kim Pong-Un decided any further nuclear testing is not necessary and he has achieved his nuclear ambitions.

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unlike NK, America hasn't exported terrorism and threatened innocent countries.

Hee Hee!

It has carried out its god-given responsibility

Hee Hee!

One that immediately comes to the mind, Ollie North Conrad. Another Bay-of-Pigs. Long list of CIA funded terrorism. The Piazza Fontana Bombing. Chile 1970, Hollywood produced a movie of that one. Contras. Colombian paramilitary groups. Peru. Argentina. Operation Cyclone.

American involvement in more than 28 regime changes 1949-2017.

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The facility was beyond it's design life and has failed already. This is good spin by NK. When they ask for US troop (nuclear) withdrawal from Korea will Trump agree?

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I think the last score was

North Korea 6 atomic bombs. America 6,800.

While North Korea might surrender that arsenal, America will not.

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The collapse of the facility has to have been a key variable in the complex dynamic that’s led North Korea to agree to the talks. 

Knock wood the talks will increase the chances of better relationships among the nations.

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Atomic weapons shouldn't be the only banned, permanently.

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zichi - affecting regime change to save a country is not terrorism.

It is when it involves supplying weapons, killings and bombings and going against the democratic right of the people and voters to elect their own governments and leaders. Just a very long history of this stuff that makes countries like North Korea and Iran just a bunch of amateurs.

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Hey, like Bolton once said, “Life is hard for dictators” that’s the chance Kim has to take.

I wonder how amused President Xi and President Putin would be reading that remark? Putin is repudiated to now be the world's richest man.

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According to recent CIA satellite images the best site remains intact.

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Meanwhile, USA is testing next generation nuclear weapons.

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100-200 dead due to a tunnel collapse if reports are correct. under Mt. Mantap. Probably already filled in and left as a grave.

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i could be wrong but I think KJU is putting on a mighty good performance, so good that it will fool trump, well it doesn’t take much to fool trump but nonetheless...

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Well, Kim has only one option, comply or don’t comply, if he doesn’t then he has to live with the consequences.

Just out of curiosity if Kim Pong-Un decided not to denuclearize, but then does not do anything, what consequences could America apply other than the current sanctions? I don't think America could just attack NK, that would make China off balance.

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Before y'all get too excited, just google Mount Mantap

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No, but that would depend on how Kim acts and by the way, if China were that good, they wouldn’t need constantly copy or steal things, especially trying to hard to obtain military and weaponry documents from us or our allies, a true superpower can create things and wouldn’t need to copy anything.

The US has operated torture sites across the globe, has interfered in sovereign nations politics, has armed terrorists again and again.

I'd say the summit depends on whether Kim can trust the Great Satan. Whether the world can trust it. This uncalled for 80s revival of hawks and threats and saying one thing whilst engaging in another has to end.

It would be most regrettable if Kim pulled out of the talks, given the progress made.

I'm a wee bit unclear of these allies you've mentioned. Would these be the allies you've recently said you "could care less" about?

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@zichi. Indeed. A little reminder here, if you haven't already read this from a while back:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/13/the-long-history-of-the-u-s-interfering-with-elections-elsewhere/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f1a512bf054

https://www.libertytreefoundation.org/news/history-election-interference-us-foreign-countries

Not that any of that excuses the horrific excesses of the DPRK various leaderships but one can certainly see why any deal with the US must be scrutinised and discussed.

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bass4funk

And it's also the country that has bestowed more freedom, given more aid and help, more nation building, given people more opportunities to gain wealth, better their lives, become more prosperous with 

You have stated that several times recently, so just countries are you referring to, not "too many" but just mention say five. Do you know that Britain has given Aid at more than 50% of that given by American and works out more per capita too.

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That wasn’t the point, the point is, the US has done a lot more to provide help, aid and freedom more than anyone else. Take the US out of equation and the entire ship which we call the world will quickly go under.

So you keep saying.

Well it is. America gives AID but in ways most of it returns like weapons sales for instance. I for one, appreciate the kindness of the American people but the constant boasting is too much, and not a very accurate picture. Britain gives more AID per capita than America, In the last century one million Brits gave their lives fighting in two world wars which are more than those by America.

America isn't the only one in the equation. The EU AID which Britain also contributes, far exceeds that given by American. About $100 billion.

America needs it allies to survive and can't do it without them otherwise might as well close all the borders ban international travel and all imports and just how long that can be maintained.

You should at least sometimes acknowledge the broader picture.

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Excellent news, now the onus is on the Great Satan to look into denuclearization. Why not? Does the world really need to be held to ransom by angry men and hostile rhetoric?

Although, it's refreshing to see the DPRK make these bold steps towards peace, the leadership must surely be concerned over the USA's decision to welch on the Iran deal. They will understand that the Trump administration is one not to be trusted.

Hopefully, the world's number one superpower, China can be of reassurance. Nobody wants to see the decades long conflict continue.

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Could be that Kim Jong-Un decided any further nuclear testing is not necessary and he has achieved his nuclear ambitions. exactly they know how to make a bomb and have the missiles to deliver them, that knowledge wont be erased anytime soon, now Iran has stated they want to start up their enrichment again, seems like the NK has just passed the whole debacle over to Iran.

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Well, Kim has only one option, comply or don’t comply....

My maths skills are poor, I confess, but that certainly seems to be two options : )

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When you ad to all that, the blood, the sacrifice of the lives

Except for POWs. Trump prefers soldiers who don’t get captured.

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When you ad to all that, the blood, the sacrifice of the lives, times and resources not to mention technology, produce and logistics over the last 100 years, even the UK doesn’t come remotely close.

America gets back as much as it gives in foreign aid. Foreign aid is less than 1% of the national budget.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-1009-foreign-aid-20171005-story.html

Trump has said he's not a supporter of foreign aid. The aid is $42 billion out of a $4 trillion budget.

The president is pushing to reduce foreign aid by up to 37%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/which-countries-get-the-most-foreign-aid/

About 600,000 American troops have been killed since the outbreak of WW2. That compares with about 400,000 Brits killed during the same period. In WW1 more than 800,000 Brits were killed compared with 120,000 Americans.

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

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While North Korea might surrender that arsenal, America will not.

We can live in hope that the bullies of this world can be halted. That the fear and paranoia that permeates our daily lives can eventually dissipate. Without hope, what is there?

Maybe this summit will achieve something else - hope for the ordinary people of both the DPRK and the USA.

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The deal that Obama secretly made without giving it to congress for a floor vote, basically that Trumps whole decision making process, hed prefer to detour congress completely if the constitution allowed it.

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It has carried out its god-given responsibility as the world's only superpower and policeman with a calm and measured hand.

It's a shame when religion is used to justify threats and violence. This is not the way to ensure peace. Religion and threats have no place, whatsoever, in such a summit.

Unfortunately, given both countries history of violence and intimidation, this may be difficult to avoid. I hope not.

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Ok, and?

That response is akin to someone brushing off the horrors of 9/11 with a shrug.

So who is this Great Satan?

It's the US that has interfered with other countries, meddled with elections, tortured and murdered and aided in the deaths and imprisonment of hundreds of thousands, and including debacles like Vietnam, millions.

Maybe after Trump is gone it might lose it's satanic moniker, one can only hope. But for now, this is the country that has no moral right to dictate to the rest of us.

I don’t think the President cares what the world thinks, I surely don’t.

Why post here and defend US foreign policy and the insane PotUS, then? Of course you care. Problem is, the US cannot be trusted when recent history points to all manner of meddling, incursions and human rights abuses.

Which all depends on Kim’s overall behavior and attitude, does he want lasting peace or does he want to go back to the old typical ways of his regime.

Neither the regime in Pyongyang or Washington can afford to roll back the clock. It's time now for both nations to set an example, without recourse to their violent ways. There's enough good people to will this. The leaders must obey the will of the people. Not the other way round.

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Anything NK says and does is meaningless until they get rid of nuclear weapons and allow unrestricted inspections, period.

Everything else is feel good nonsense.

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Donald J. Trump: The Peace President. . . . .

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Take the US out of equation and the entire ship which we call the world will quickly go under.

I'm optimistic on this idea. The world will be an enriched place and better off with the US in isolation, which is what you are pushing for, no? You say you don't care about the rest of the planet, so why not go along with the isolationist policy that was big in the 30s and now undergoing a revival. Apart from Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and too many other areas etc

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-map-shows-the-alarming-spread-of-the-us-war-on-terror/

The US military and various govts have killed millions of us (rest of the world) since WW2. It has interfered with the democratic processes in many countries and continues to do so.

Please sort out your own problems.

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North Korea is only dismantling the one or two sites that are commonly known and about the only things known to the intelligence community. It is not dismantling any of its clandestine sites, the ones that the intelligence community lacks the commonsense required to determine their function. However will there be an inspection regime when few know just what to inspect?

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Ultimately, what is really disturbing is that North Korea's national goals and international strategy has undergone a drastic change and...no one seems to realize this. Most still think North Korea still wants to take over the South militarily. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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That response is akin to someone brushing off the horrors of 9/11 with a shrug.

I never brushed them off or forgot who was responsible, but he's now at the bottom of the Indian ocean next to Davy Jones Locker and good riddance.

It's the US that has interfered with other countries, meddled with elections, tortured and murdered and aided in the deaths and imprisonment of hundreds of thousands, and including debacles like Vietnam, millions.

And it's also the country that has bestowed more freedom, given more aid and help, more nation building, given people more opportunities to gain wealth, better their lives, become more prosperous with No glass ceiling and the ability to make yourself into anything you want. Japan is doing fine, as well as South Korea and Germany and we bombed the crap out of them and helped rebuild these countries, so yes, we are not perfect, but we do and have done more good than most countries on an international scale.

Maybe after Trump is gone it might lose it's satanic moniker,

That depends, I felt it was a Satanic bog when the last guy was in office, so it depends on your outlook and how you view the country, you have that right as an outsider, but as a native, I think the country is better off.

one can only hope. But for now, this is the country that has no moral right to dictate to the rest of us.*

Yeah, uh-huh, you might think that, but not the leaders that need us, you have no say over that. When America sneezes, everyone catches a cold.

Neither the regime in Pyongyang or Washington can afford to roll back the clock. It's time now for both nations to set an example, without recourse to their violent ways.

That would depend on Kim, he's holding the ball, anything short of denuclearization is a non-starter and a walk out. It will be absolutely unacceptable for Washington to every allow or accept an armed NK.

There's enough good people to will this. The leaders must obey the will of the people. Not the other way round.

No, they will do what is right for the stability of the world and that is, a denuclearized NK.

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"Although, it's refreshing to see the DPRK make these bold steps towards peace, the leadership must surely be concerned over the USA's decision to welch on the Iran deal."

I wouldn't call it welching, I'd call it putting an end to an incredibly bad deal.

Why Singapore is a great location for Trump’s meeting with Kim Jung Un

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8zjqDAnWw

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America gets back as much as it gives in foreign aid. Foreign aid is less than 1% of the national budget.

That wasn’t the point, the point is, the US has done a lot more to provide help, aid and freedom more than anyone else. Take the US out of equation and the entire ship which we call the world will quickly go under.

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Unbelievable news! Another massive win for Trump, who is looking unstoppable for re-election now. And Kim-san has shown himself to be a very strong, diplomatic leader of the new North Korea. His father would never have allowed this. I cant wait for the PM Abe and Kim-san meeting. Japanese investment in NK awaits.

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The US has operated torture sites across the globe, has interfered in sovereign nations politics, has armed terrorists again and again.

Ok, and?

I'd say the summit depends on whether Kim can trust the Great Satan.

So who is this Great Satan? The country that has bestowed more freedom, given more aid and help, more nation building, given people more opportunities to gain wealth, better their lives, become more prosperous, if you’re referring to the US, then that would be a sizzling hot comment.

Whether the world can trust it.

I don’t think the President cares what the world thinks, I surely don’t.

This uncalled for 80s revival of hawks and threats and saying one thing whilst engaging in another has to end.

Which all depends on Kim’s overall behavior and attitude, does he want lasting peace or does he want to go back to the old typical ways of his regime.

It would be most regrettable if Kim pulled out of the talks, given the progress made.

I'm a wee bit unclear of these allies you've mentioned. Would these be the allies you've recently said you "could care less" about?

Yes, but I’m not the President, so I don’t need to work with these people.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Not that any of that excuses the horrific excesses of the DPRK various leaderships but one can certainly see why any deal with the US must be scrutinised and discussed.

Well, Kim has only one option, comply or don’t comply, if he doesn’t then he has to live with the consequences.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

When you ad to all that, the blood, the sacrifice of the lives, times and resources not to mention technology, produce and logistics over the last 100 years, even the UK doesn’t come remotely close.

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Excellent news, now the onus is on the Great Satan to look into denuclearization.

Great Satan?? ROFL!!

Why not? Does the world really need to be held to ransom by angry men and hostile rhetoric?

Well, Kim can calm down and show the world, he’s a real man of his word.

Although, it's refreshing to see the DPRK make these bold steps towards peace, the leadership must surely be concerned over the USA's decision to welch on the Iran deal.

The deal that Obama secretly made without giving it to congress for a floor vote, a vote which most likely wouldn’t have passed since the Senate didn’t agree with most of it, even some Democrats, yes, it should have never happened and it should have been scrapped.

They will understand that the Trump administration is one not to be trusted.

Hey, like Bolton once said, “Life is hard for dictators” that’s the chance Kim has to take.

Hopefully, the world's number one superpower, US

There, I fixed it for you.

can be of reassurance. Nobody wants to see the decades long conflict continue.

No, but that would depend on how Kim acts and by the way, if China were that good, they wouldn’t need constantly copy or steal things, especially trying to hard to obtain military and weaponry documents from us or our allies, a true superpower can create things and wouldn’t need to copy anything.

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Just out of curiosity if Kim Pong-Un decided not to denuclearize, but then does not do anything, what consequences could America apply other than the current sanctions? I don't think America could just attack NK, that would make China off balance.

Don't know, either squeeze them harder then they already are or do what they did to Saddam and Gaddafi.

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Hopefully, the world's number one superpower, China can be of reassurance.

Hee Hee!

If that makes you feel a little better, then knock yourself out!

Thank God for President Trump and his steady, powerful leadership.

Both NK and soon, Iran, will be brought to heel.

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thats the spirit, guys!.

With a little luck, peace on the Peninsula will be averted!

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I think the last score was

North Korea 6 atomic bombs. America 6,800.

While North Korea might surrender that arsenal, America will not.

unlike NK, America hasn't exported terrorism and threatened innocent countries. It has carried out its god-given responsibility as the world's only superpower and policeman with a calm and measured hand.

But you know that deep down.

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