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few weeks ago i have found article here when Adern said that NZ "won" over covid...

or it was some kind of mistyping?

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In Auckland, the nation’s most populous city which has been locked down since Aug. 17 

About 6 weeks in…

The lockdown approach is sure to be validated any day now, right?

New Zealand has taken an unusual zero-tolerance approach to the coronavirus and has been trying to completely eliminate the delta variant.

Good luck.

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The aim is to get to 90% fully vaxed by year end - not sure if that's achievable but 85% definitely is and they are on track for that. Personally, I won't head back home until I can skip any form of quarantine which I think is reasonable for double vaxed people who test negative on arrival.

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I was reading how wildly popular the New Zealand government policies were here at JT comments a month ago, and I checked the latest polls now and see:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300417135/new-poll-has-act-riding-high-labour-and-national-both-losing-ground-during-delta-outbreak

The popularity of those policies continues to wain, it appears from the numbers.

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The popularity of those policies continues to wain, it appears from the numbers.

LOL, they are down by a whopping 3 points, and are still miles ahead of any of the other parties.

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Good. Time to be realistic.

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They are down 3 points from the previous poll, but down more since the “landslide” election result last year, it looks.

I don’t know what else is going on besides their lockdowns but one thinks they are one of the factors behind it. Not sure what their opposition has in mind though.

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this one is interesting too:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-zealands-strategy-to-eliminate-coronavirus-faces-defeat-by-delta-strain-admits-health-chief-qq3wh2zdw

With the country’s largest city, Auckland, in lockdown since mid-August, the health director-general Dr Ashley Bloomfield has warned that the nation may not return to zero Covid-19 cases

I predicted here at JT a month ago that their astute PM would make for a change of course in September, looks like I was on the right track…

Lockdowns and this idea of elimination is just not going to be appropriate.

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yeah, well, they certainly can't keep Auckland in lockdown too much longer, thats for sure - they do have covid under control now (only 9 cases today?), but are still trying eliminate it completely which I don't think they can do as delta is just too contagious. The government is in a very difficult position - it would not take much to overwhelm the medical system so they cannot afford to just let delta spread. Having folks die at home for lack of hospital beds would be totally unacceptable in NZ (unlike here) and any political party who said otherwise would be severely punished by voters.

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Worst western country after Australia for freedom restrictions, harrowing stuff, being isolated,by force !

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they cannot afford to just let delta spread

But Japan is not doing that either. They have these Japan style state of emergencies, and it’s quite notable that not in Japan only but other places too, these delta waves seem to go into decline even without harsh lockdowns and heavy policing.

What I mean to say it that it is not a binary choice between draconian lockdowns or letting the virus run wild. There is measures that can be taken such as mask wearing and vaccination etc, which appear to be having good success.

Japan has had some 16,000 deaths so far, if New Zealand has 1/20th of the population that might translate to around 800 deaths had it been similar to Japan. This is not good of course, but what other causes of death are there for people that are preventable through draconian measures? How many people die in cars each year in New Zealand? Alcohol? And what would the costs be to all people’s lives of taking draconian approaches in those spheres too?

(In the first place I remain skeptical of lockdowns in practice since typically many people are inclined to break the rules, but that’s an aside)

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It seems lockdowns -effective against the earlier strains of the virus - are not 100% effective against the delta strain. At least they succeeded in greatly reducing the number of cases, hospitilisations and deaths.

Now the government seem to be adjusting and adapting their approach according to the new information they have. That strikes me as pretty astute leadership.

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fxgai

I was reading how wildly popular the New Zealand government policies were here at JT comments a month ago, and I checked the latest polls now and see:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300417135/new-poll-has-act-riding-high-labour-and-national-both-losing-ground-during-delta-outbreak

The popularity of those policies continues to wain, it appears from the numbers.

So the government's popularity is a solid 17% better than the next best and you consider that as disapproval? Are you nuts? Sure it's dropped, but that's understandable.

What I mean to say it that it is not a binary choice between draconian lockdowns or letting the virus run wild. There is measures that can be taken such as mask wearing and vaccination etc, which appear to be having good success.

Umm, yeah. That's what all nations are doing. Including New Zealand.

Japan has had some 16,000 deaths so far, if New Zealand has 1/20th of the population that might translate to around 800 deaths had it been similar to Japan. This is not good of course, but what other causes of death are there for people that are preventable through draconian measures?

So Japan has had around 30 times the number of deaths. Not great. And mostly Japan has had more draconian measures. Sure, at the moment, one city is locked down, but as a whole NZ has had more freedom that most countries during this pandemic.

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