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© Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Noguchi, 3 other astronauts return to Earth from space station
By MARCIA DUNN CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Kyakusenbi_Arimasu
At least American rocket parts come down predictably. The Chinese just dumped a huge rocket part and have no clue as to where it might come down.
They are building their own space station now and put up the first piece yesterday. American technology at its best.
FizzBit
so Elon Musk is blacklisted?
Michael Machida
And 3 others?
Mark
Welcome home Boys and girl, glad you made it back safe, and thank you for adding knowledge and experience to the program.
FizzBit
Are you asking because he isn’t quoted in the article?
No Elon Musk = no SpaceX
what do you think?
snowymountainhell
Well done!
snowymountainhell
This is the AP headline as published and used by every other publication from writer Marcia Dunn:
“SpaceX returns 4 astronauts to Earth; rare night splashdown” -This was a “team” effort by “people working together”. No ‘one person’ needs to be singled out for praise.
JeffLee
US media: SpaceX safely returned four astronauts from the International Space Station
Japanese media: Noguchi, 3 other astronauts returned from the International Space Station
albaleo
What's with the nationalism? Is it not better to see it as human ingenuity? (And it would save us the bother of checking out the nationality and origins of the contributing scientists and technology.)
FizzBit
you're sharp
so spacex would have happened without Elon. Got it
snowymountainhell
@JeffLeeToday 06:01 pm JST
@albaleoToday 06:11 pm JST
Perhaps it’s intended to create some kind of “controversy” for people to comment?
FizzBit
and how about his plan for global internet access? Yep, the profit driven corps would have thought of that. Haha
Blacklabel
Elon isn’t entirely clear about what his “politics” are. His companies are not overtly and loudly “woke”. In this environment, that’s enough for liberals to criticize him and try to diminish his personal accomplishments.
elon musk is doing wonderful things for this world, to include leading Space-X. But Liberals won’t even let him host a comedy TV show without being triggered.
itsonlyrocknroll
Kudos, to Astronaut, Soichi Noguchi.
All due respect, I would question Elon Musk's company to change my light bulb.
snowymountainhell
And, all due respect, @itsonlyrocknroll 6:42pm, more qualified individuals than us chose to trust their teammates and the company, flew and retuned safely.
Kudos, not just to one, but ALL: Space X Dragon flight crew, technicians and mission control!
mmwkdw
Were they all asked to hold up their right Index finger ?
itsonlyrocknroll
Just my opinion, biased on my distrust of Elon Musk personally.
Elon Musk's SpaceX may have been one explosion away from going bust
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24933260-300-elon-musks-spacex-may-have-been-one-explosion-away-from-going-bust/
Sooner or later Elon Musk flawed commercial SpaceX ambitions are going to cost lives.
FizzBit
Oh for sure, like the space disasters of 1967, 1987 andn2003
itsonlyrocknroll
Ok, excuse my disingenuous flippancy, over light bulbs.
As far back as 2015 Musk was, allegedly cutting corners....
Why Tesla employees fear Elon Musk, as told by one of the company's cofounders
https://www.businessinsider.com/working-with-elon-musk-tesla-2015-5
Ego, ambition, the need for recognition at any cost is an incendiary mix.
Combined, could have extreme consequences for all that come into contact or are persuaded to climb on board the Musk fairground ride that is SpaceX.
snowymountainhell
Your concerns are understood @itsonlyrocknroll 8:07pm. Some of these are the same fatal mistakes of the Challenger and the Columbia. The former was pushed to launch ‘for PR reasons’ despite cautions to delay. The latter was destroyed when a complete inspection and repair of possible damage was not conducted prior to reentry.
Agreed. Yet, no one here will give up our ‘tech’ or ANY of the innovations that have resulted from these extremely risky endeavors.
So, what’s the solution to continue our progress? No privatization, no commercialization and “governments only” in space?
itsonlyrocknroll
I am biased, snowymountainhell.
I believe that Elon Musk ambition take precedence over his willingness to accept there could be a human cost.
My doubts stem, from an Guardian article.
Elon Musk on trial: CEO accused of defamation over 'pedo guy' remarks.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/dec/03/elon-musk-defamation-trial-begins-in-case-brought-by-british-diver
One has to question Elon Musk motivations underlining Space X.
FizzBit
China is building a space station and dumping their crap wherever.
So much for the Star Trek dreams of inclusion .
bakakuma
Man, that is so cool. World coming together to further humankind.
itsonlyrocknroll
I think it is essential that private investment must be a joint venture, allowing space exploration to flourish and develop.
It is when celebrity, billionaire entrepreneurs, with an insatiable need to achieve personal ambition that could have a affect on these astronauts, agreed not just Soichi Noguchi, well being that has to challenged.
Elon Musk must be subject to oversight.
snowymountainhell
Agreed, the guy is not a saint. Respectfully, @itsonltrocknroll read the articles you presented: the 8:07p Business Insider piece (2015) and the 7:27p Newscientist.com (2021), in that order.
NOT a “for or against” opinion but here’s some basic takeaway from what you provided: At Tesla, he was driven, impatient, feared and/or respected by some. Space X experienced a number of prior failures and the Falcon’s final success was possibly, a final ‘make-or-break’ project from their speedy ‘trial & error’ methodology of “go fast, break things and fix them”. Agreed, can’t follow that methodology with manned space flight.
As far as your 8:38p article referenced, that’s along the lines of the typical billionaire, periodic ‘foot in mouth’ and then, the legal “backpedaling and C.Y.A.” Agreed.
Much is not respectable but then again, if we judged our current tech and innovations on the visionary’s ‘personality’ or lack thereof, we wouldn’t have Mac’s, IPhones, IPads, etc. No just Jobs but many are wary of Gates as well.
MotMotMot
I don't think people understand the reason SpaceX does well is because of SpaceX president and COO Gwynne Shotwell. Musk is the idea guy. He's all about his Mars spaceship down in Texas. The reason they get NASA contracts is because Shotwell is an excellent engineer and executive.
I'm suprised no one has mentioned Akihiko Hoshide is not the commander of the ISS. Only the second time JAXA has had a commander of ISS.
Happy Day
Exciting times for the space program!
Chris Ghaar
NASA's rocket program started with importing SS-Untersturmfuehrer von Braun in 1945 and his 1,600 colleagues...
Elon Musk is from South Africa. Undeniably, he is a very interesting person.
Apparently, the Agency is committed for diversity. Future plans:
"First Woman On Moon: In a major step for diversity, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), has announced it will send 9 women along with many people of colour to the Moon in its ‘Artemis’ mission."
https://www.shethepeople.tv/news/first-woman-on-moon-artemis-nasa-persons-of-colour/