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Oath Keepers trial: Jan 6 was 'rebellion,' prosecutor says

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By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER, MICHAEL KUNZELMAN and LINDSAY WHITEHURST

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Send to jail all that terrorist scum..

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Rhodes was secretly recorded saying that his “only regret is that they should have brought rifles,”

Dangerous idiot. He accidentally shot his own eye out. Shouldn’t be anywhere near a gun.

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20 years in a max.

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Oath Breakers. This is exactly the example of right wing extremists in the US many people see and abhor. Ottawa occupiers are very similar except they didn’t bring guns they brought trucks and booze and harassment.

Sedition is correct. It’s wild that these traitors have the gall to call others what they have become. Stand tall law enforcement. These people truly threaten democracy. They are not patriots.

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20 years in a max.

That won’t happen.

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Rhodes remained on the outside, like “a general surveying his troops on a battlefield,”

"Like a Ray Epps" would be a more appropriate description of that type of activity.

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If he doesn’t do time for the sedition charge it is likely he will do time for the other; conspiring to obstruct an official meeting. Both charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years.

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These guys are going to prison for a long time. The only real remaining question is what they are willing to tell the DOJ to make is a slightly less "long time."

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Both charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years.

It all depends, but likely won’t happen.

These guys are going to prison for a long time.

No, two years and when the next Republican President is sworn in, those people or many of them will either be pardoned or have their sentences commuted.

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Elmer Stuart Rhoads II (Thus proving that his father hated him at least as much as his father before him), a man so dumb that he shot himself in the face, will go on the stand and convict himself.

They have already lost the jury selection process. They have admitted in so many words what they did. What they did is absolutely a crime.

And NOBODY is going to pardon them. Not Don (most likely because he will be sending them notes passed down the cell block), not Gov. Helmet Hair who won't owe them a thing and in fact will want them to go away. What better way to have someone go away than to have them serve a long stint in Federal Prison.

And once again, I like the part about how nobody argues that they are not guilty or that there are extenuating circumstances, but that it's ok because they will be pardoned.

No they wont and no, that would not be ok.

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GOP supporters advocating and supporting criminal actions by more than 1,000 rioters and looters. I thought it was the party of law and order. Guessed wrong.

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They have already lost the jury selection process. They have admitted in so many words what they did. What they did is absolutely a crime.

Well, with this DOJ reading down your neck, and given the history of the FBI, I wouldn’t be surprised at all, if they leaned on him a little.

And NOBODY is going to pardon them.

of course, not this administration, but that’s a different story for the next incoming administration, it’s not going to be a Democrat, that’s a 90% certainty, and then, after that point, they will either be pardoned or their sentences commuted, because the president has the constitutional right to do so if he wishes to.

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GOP supporters advocating and supporting criminal actions by more than 1,000 rioters and looters.

No, we just oppose the political spectacle surrounding this farce. That’s the objection and the Dems have the mic and control the narrative on the issue for now, but that time is coming to an end.

I thought it was the party of law and order.

Yes, that’s why they’re winning the house.

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No, two years and when the next Republican President is sworn in, those people or many of them will either be pardoned or have their sentences commuted.

Imagine suggesting the people who tried to overthrow the government might get pardons if Republicans take control again. Tells you everything you need to know about party of "law and order."

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Pivot from the “sure they’re guilty but they lull be pardoned” to the “well, you just wait till we win. THEN you’ll be sorry” narrative.

From the “wait until your father gets home” school of law and ethics.

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when the next Republican President is sworn in, those people or many of them will either be pardoned or have their sentences commuted.

You mean you hope they will.

--Rhodes sent his followers a step-by-step plan for stopping the transfer of power

--“overthrow, abort or abolish Congress."

--described Jan. 6 as a “hard constitutional deadline” for stopping the transfer of power.

--Trump “needs to know that if he fails to act, then we will.”

--the attack, which temporarily halted the certification of Biden's electoral victory, sent lawmakers running for cover and left dozens of police officers injured.

Which of these actions do you respect?

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when the next Republican President is sworn in, those people or many of them will either be pardoned or have their sentences commuted.

Won't be this guy:

"former President Donald J. Trump directed a lawyer working for him to tell the archives that he had returned all the documents he had taken from the White House at the end of his presidency"

Obstruction of justice right there.

You're not gonna ride the GOP train as it hurtles into the canyon, are you?

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How about such poor firearms safety that he shot his own eye out (and yet still managed not to kill himself. Small brain syndrome perhaps?)

Are we respecting that?

Of course that’s not criminal as he wasn’t negligent in another’s injury. It’s merely mind blowingly (literally!) stupid.

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when the next Republican President is sworn in, those people or many of them will either be pardoned or have their sentences commuted.

I think I read somewhere that Trump has the authority, even now, to preemptively pardon himself, just by thinking about it.

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You know you’ve sunk low when people like this are your hero and you’re cheering for their pardons.

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I think I read somewhere that Trump has the authority, even now, to preemptively pardon himself, just by thinking about it.

I am hoping that convictions work the same way. Can I convict one of these idiots just by thinking it? That would be neat!

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"former President Donald J. Trump directed a lawyer working for him to tell the archives that he had returned all the documents he had taken from the White House at the end of his presidency"

Obstruction of justice right there.

It's also subordining perjury. The Feds take that rather seriously.

And this the textbook example of the crime/fraud exception to attorney-client privelige.

I cannot imagine an attorney, thrown under the bus (and probably not paid) by his client NOT jumping at the chance to save his/her own skin and serving their lying dupiictous client up on a platter.

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Trump and his diehard supporters fundamentally hate democracy. This is no exaggeration. These people are a minority who lost a demonstrably legitimate election, and they can’t accept that.

Democrats have objected to election results (sometimes but rarely in silly ways), but they have never actively sought to overturn them. And for all of you bass players out there, holding a serial con man to account for obvious abuses of the office of the presidency does not qualify as subverting the principles of democracy.

In this whole ugly affair, there are two kinds of players: the con men and the easily conned. So far only the latter have faced any kind of justice. The string pullers will hopefully face proper justice too. Otherwise the Union Is toast.

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In this whole ugly affair, there are two kinds of players: the con men and the easily conned. So far only the latter have faced any kind of justice. The string pullers will hopefully face proper justice too. 

George Conway (for reasons that escape me still married to the creature from "it" as well as) member in good standing of the Federalist Society, the largest conservative legal organization in the country, says that Trump is headed for multiple federal felony convictions.

As he went to a pretty damn fine law school and was offered the position of solicitor general in the Trump "Administration" (He turned it down because he came to realize that Trump is insane and stupid to boot), I will place more faith in his analysis than that of our resident "That will never happen and if it does, they will be pardoned" 'expert'.

Let's hope they take the guy in the background with a fixed bayonnet as well because nothing says "I really need to be off the streets" like a middle-age white guy, not a member of law-enforcement, with the equivalent of a very long knife affixed to the end of a rifle in a public place.

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They wanted to install an unelected president.

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NemoToday  03:42 pm JST

I think I read somewhere that Trump has the authority, even now, to preemptively pardon himself, just by thinking about it.

I am hoping that convictions work the same way. Can I convict one of these idiots just by thinking it? That would be neat!

I think you need to be at least as awesome as Donald Trump to wield such power over the very fabric of reality itself. Of course he can do that kind of thing, just ask his loyal supporters.

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They wanted to install an unelected president.

I agree but I think it’s worse: they wanted to install through violent sedition a candidate who LOST.

We had a free and fair election and by a margin of 7 million votes, the American electorate said “No (insert expletive here) way.

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