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Over 20 dead in U.S. polar vortex; frostbite amputations feared

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Earth to Trump:

Climate and weather are two different things.

Climate change can cause extreme weather.

Global warming is global and doesn't cause a heatwave in a Midwestern winter. 

Education and science beats your gut feeling.

Meanwhile the stable genius is tweeting about global warming again prompting the government scientists to tweet back. Days without demonstrating pure stupidity and ignorance, zero.

Please bring your pets indoors. I also hope there are enough warming centers for the homeless.

Stay warm!

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Climate change is like a washing machine in which the load has become unbalanced. Except instead of the weight being thrown around, it's heat within the atmosphere of earth.

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Climate change is like a washing machine in which the load has become unbalanced. Except instead of the weight being thrown around, it's heat within the atmosphere of earth.

Why would this get thumbs down? It's a pretty descriptive analogy.

Haters gon' hate I guess.

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So, instead of global warming, it's now global freezing?

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Trump's a science expert. Not global warming, China.

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I’m from NYC and I’ve never seen -10. This year there were reports of -40 in NYC. This weather is crazy.

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Global warming doesn’t just heat things up. It also freezes things more in the colder season. Global warming eats away at the planet’s ability to regulate itself. That’s why the temperature becomes extreme on both sides.

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So, instead of global warming, it's now global freezing?

In Winter, yes, it can be. In Summer you see things like what is happening in parts of the southern hemisphere. Causes can be debated. The fact that it is happening can't.

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@JJ

Trump said China did it, I think most people will believe him over you, or any of those funny science people.

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I think most people will believe him (Trump)

And they'll also believe the oil, gas and coal industries and the scientists they pay to write reports pooh-poohing climate change, and the banking and investment industries that back them, and the auto industries, and the ranchers, and the governments of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, Iran, Russia, and others reliant on sales of oil, gas and coal.

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Earth to Trump: 

Climate and weather are two different things.

Climate change can cause extreme weather. 

Global warming is global and doesn't cause a heatwave in a Midwestern winter. 

Education and science beats your gut feeling. 

So what’s your point? You guys are so steeped with hatreds towards this President, you will blame him for anything. Too funny.

Meanwhile the stable genius is tweeting about global warming again prompting the government scientists to tweet back. Days without demonstrating pure stupidity and ignorance, zero.

And what are these so called experts doing? All their efforts have paid off? If Dems really want Trump to get re-elected, please focus on this garbage.

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Be aware, this is only the beginning of oncoming climate chaos. There is a 30 year lag between emission of carbon into the atmosphere and its ascent high enough to begin affecting climate. Thus, we are seeing atmospheric instability increasing (geometrically?) to a frightening degree from emissions of carbon burnt in 1990! Other effects of course, include warmer and scorching warm days, insect migration, drought, etc, but again, this is only the beginning. We need to get serious, we need an emergency-level response. The Green New Deal is a good idea, but even it may not go far enough.

I wish this was science fiction, folks.

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The priority of the planet is far more serious than politics.

I am as well from New England. Right outside of Boston. My Mom called from our farmhouse in Groton M.A. 3 am this morning. She was cold. I could hear it in her voice and scared. So cold in fact she found two frozen Cedar Waxwings in the front yard that may have dropped out of the sky frozen solid.  That her heated pipes in that old Farm house of ours had frozen in the basement. The piping we have is a heated element PVC piping system supposedly that will never freeze. We changed all the piping in 2016. We put that company’s product to the test! -(fail)- She has two massive jet turbo prop heaters working full time off Kerosene in the barn to keep live stock and horses from freezing to death. As well the feed. I have seen direct effects on our family farm from Global Warming/Freezing. I can say with 100% certainty this farm has been affected by it. It's a real thing. Especially in the Macintosh apple orchards. The apple yields are way down over the last 5 years. This polar vortex is a rare phenomenon. A bit of a one off. But still -30 -40 -50 F' with the windchill is deadly to anything breathing. Please keep your pets inside. And throw in another log into the woodstove before bed with every blanket you have on the bed.  I highly doubt anyone from Massachusetts is reading here, but I am praying for those affected. My Mom reads here. Take care Mum.

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I wish this was science fiction, folks.

We need to prepare! AOC said, we will all be dead in 12 years!

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How anybody with a brain can still believe in "global warming" after the whole hockey-stick graph affair is beyond me. People don't like to look at evidence.

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Darlin' it's Cold Outside.

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Earth, Mars and nearby planets are warming up apparently. This may be disrupting the 'washload' of the earth's climate.

But we as inhabitants of the Earth certainly need to see what we can do to slow down, or alleviate the situation, rather than aggravate it as we have been doing.

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How anybody with a brain can still believe in "global warming" after the whole hockey-stick graph affair is beyond me. People don't like to look at evidence.

Says the guy who doubts the scientists who literally dedicate their working lives to looking at the evidence.

Facepalm.

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@kawabegawa198

Okay whats the hockey stick graph? I missed out on that.

How anybody with a brain can still believe in "global warming" after the whole hockey-stick graph affair is beyond me. People don't like to look at evidence.

I just said a major Mcintosh apple farm in Massachusttets apples yields are down due to global warming.

Need proof? Read this study by one the nations leading experts.

Emily A. Thurston of Clarkson University, Potsdam NY. Really smart and awesome woman!

https://www.clarkson.edu/sites/default/files/2018-11/nys_apple_trees.pdf

Sorry, but I know Emily. I am going to take her word that Global Warming is a becoming a serious issue.

I have plans for my apple farming when I retire here in Japan. Whats happening in the study in N.Y. is also happning in Massachusetts as we have the same climate changes.

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Why would this get thumbs down? It's a pretty descriptive analogy.

Who knows? Seems to be a spike in the frequency of pointless downvoting over the last couple of weeks.

From the country that just had a record hot January, I can only sympathise with those of you enduring the exact opposite.

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Says the guy who doubts the scientists who literally dedicate their working lives to looking at the evidence.

Dedicate their working lives to securing funding, so they have to play along with the whole global warming hoax. There, FTFY. Notice you didn't refute my assertion about the hockey-stick scandal.

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I am from Vermont and I am reading. My mother is buried in Williamstown and my cousins are in Boston.

My aunt is near Alewife. The cold is nothing compared to Minnesota.

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So global warming makes things cold, but only when it’s not making things warm. Got it.

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There is a 30 year lag between emission of carbon into the atmosphere and its ascent high enough to begin affecting climate. 

Are you sure about that? The introduction to the paper linked below starts with this: "It is a widely held misconception that the main effects of a CO2 emission will not be felt for several decades."

The conclusion starts with this: "Our analysis implies warming from an individual carbon dioxide emission can be expected to reach its peak value within about a decade and, for the most part, persist for longer than a century."

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/9/12/124002

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@Blacklabel Yeah, see, it's not rocket science - global warming, caused not by nature but by people burning fossil fuels and farting, is the cause of all adverse weather conditions!

I wanna know what Al Gore and AOC have to say about this.

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So global warming makes things cold, but only when it’s not making things warm. Got it.

No, global warming means global - is the US the whole globe?

(Dunno how people keep on forgetting this - the word global is right there as the adjective)

Parts of the globe go cold; other parts of the globe go hot (look at Australia with its record heat)

Global means adding all those areas of the globe together - if the sum number is an increasing temperature change, then it's warming - if the sum number is a decreasing temperature change, then it's cooling

But it doesn't mean that all areas are all increasing temperature change - it just means that the areas with increasing temperature change trumps the areas with decreasing temperature change (and the sum therefore yielding a net increasing temperature change)

The term is not that complicated, people

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There were similar Polar Vortex cold snaps in 1985 and 1996. Like this year, they occurred during Solar Minimum. I'm more inclined to think that Earth's weather is linked to the Solar activity (or lack thereof). But feel free to buy into the Climate Alarmist rhetoric. Even NASA reports that the atmosphere is cooling.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/28/nasa-the-chill-of-solar-minimum-is-being-felt-in-our-atmosphere-cooling-trend-seen/

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Climate and weather are two different things.

Yet strangely weather events that can be linked to global warming are considered evidence that the world will come to an end in 12 years. Warmists are anything but consistent with their talking points.

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I understand that polar vortexes have always existed. That is not what we are speaking about, the issue is that it is undeniably becoming colder and hotter. When New York City where the previous coldest day ever recorded was -15F in 1934 hit -21F this year and a city in Minesota where the previous record was -29F and hit -77F. Those things cannot be disputed. Australia is having the hottest summer in history where the average temperature has risen by 6 points. Climate change became a real thing once the industrial revolution started.

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So global warming makes things cold, but only when it’s not making things warm. Got it.

No, you clearly don't get it. It's called climate change.

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No, you clearly don't get it. It's called climate change.

The term ‘climate change’ is rather meaningless. The climate always changes and always has changed. It’s the observed warming that is being blamed for dramatic weather events.

So no, it’s not the neutral phrase ‘climate change’.

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The term ‘climate change’ is rather meaningless. The climate always changes and always has changed. It’s the observed warming that is being blamed for dramatic weather events.

So no, it’s not the neutral phrase ‘climate change’.

It's sad that you expect us to believe a political ideology over the research of people who dedicate their lives to looking at this.

But hey, hey, you're Right!

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