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© Copyright 2020 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Record 16.8 million Americans out of work due to coronavirus
By Michelle Smith WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
52 Comments
erbaviva
We all want to be scared ad be under the control of fear. So how will the crime rate, poverty, unemployment be affected after our fearmongering. CoVID is deadly, fear is more.
Toasted Heretic
The legacy of all this will not be pretty.
Blame will be shifted by the Trump administration to China, the WHO, other countries, political opponents, migrants, the media. And the narrative will be rewritten as to how this shameful Presidency utterly failed the American people.
And amidst all the chaos, the big business agenda will be pushed through. Corporate bailouts will be favoured over the physical and financial health of citizens. Polluters will be favoured as environmental regulations are rolled back, and the takeover of the justice system will see more and more conservative judges appointed.
This, sadly, is just the tip of the iceberg.
SuperLib
These numbers are just staggering.
Serrano
Thanks, China.
Unemployment is increasing in countries all over the world due to this virus and the ensuing lockdowns.
Blacklabel
Time to reopen that economy by the beginning of next month. People need to be able to choose if they want to work and if there want to leave their homes for social activities.
Serrano
The economy will be reopened in a managed way so as to make sure the spread of the virus is contained without having new outbreaks.
From 10:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlj7KkzyqU
YuriOtani
It will be known as the trump depression.
Blacklabel
So who gets the credit when the economy comes roaring back once it reopens?
bass4funk
Most definitely and there’s no sign of it slowing down particularly the financial impact that they caused.
YuriOtani
bass 4 funk, hardly any place is open. There are shortages of all sorts of things. The price of petrol is almost less than a dollar per gallon. The roads are empty of traffic. What economic activity?
Blacklabel
Now They Tell Us
Virus mortality forecasts decline as economic misery skyrockets.
"Based on the latest analysis from America’s leading public health experts, politicians can stop comparing Covid-19 to World War II. But can their war on the U.S. economy be halted in time to prevent irreparable damage?"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-they-tell-us-11586450916
theFu
Average NYers seems to get all the crap.
Saw an article about rural Arkansas vs small-town Ohio. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52216777 worth a read to understand how very different the virus seems based on your local context.
No, it will be called the Wu-Flu recession. Monetary policy isn't the same today as it was in 1929.
Humans being what we are, will cause the 2-hump virus cases because we won't stay apart into June, so we'll get another in August and a longer period of staying home into October instead of just into August. Trump will lead this because his hotels are losing money all over the place, airlines are screaming, and all the travel-related businesses are already dead because they exist on the barely-alive fringe already. Not good for Trump's leveraged wealth. Hopefully, state Governors will ignore Trump, keep everything close a 4-6 weeks after the peak in their states, so we only have 1 hump, not 2.
bass4funk
You just made my point for me.
A little, it might, but overall, most likely not as long as his poll numbers don’t dip into the 20’s he should do very well.
Blacklabel
so everyone stays home for 6 months, then gets no immunity. Soon as they come back out, they get infected.
Thats why Fauci said this will be seasonal and we can never shake hands again? because they are unwilling to let people go back outside and work?
Busby
Uh, you do realize that your quote and citation in your post is from the WSJ OPINION section?
OPINION BEST OF THE WEB
Now They Tell Us
https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-they-tell-us-11586450916
Wanna explain that one to us?
Blacklabel
written by James Freeman.
James Freeman is assistant editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page.
you failed to mention who wrote your article nor provide a link.
Pukey2
Does Trump even care?
Blacklabel
So when do we go back outside and go back to work? A vaccine is as early as 12-18 months and as long as 5 years.
nishikat
What happened to Trump's promising Hydroxychloroquine treatment? That can be done right now.
Blacklabel
Yes it can be used and it has saved lives. But it’s not a cure nor a vaccine.
Chip Star
Updated April 7, 2020
There are no drugs or other therapeutics approved by the US Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html
Thursday, April 9, 2020
NIH clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, a potential therapy for COVID-19, begins
A clinical trial to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults hospitalized with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has begun, with the first participants now enrolled in Tennessee.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-hydroxychloroquine-potential-therapy-covid-19-begins
Yes, hydroxychloroquine can be used and has saved lives; however, it has not been through clinical trial and isn’t approved by the FDA. This means the leader of the US should not be encouraging people to take it. Why is that so hard for Donny’s boot-licking fans to understand?
Blacklabel
so taking hydroxychloroquine is more dangerous than......dying?
It has saved lives and taken none.
Chip Star
You live in Japan. The government can’t prevent you from going outside or back to work, so feel free. While you’re at it, why not have a drinking party with your employees at an Izakaya? Remember, you have to finish by 8 though.
Don't forget your unproven, unapproved hydroxychloroquine.
Blacklabel
Hydroxychloroquine has saved multiple lives. Do you prefer those people had died?
Blacklabel
It is not a cure and there is no vaccine. So how do people go back to work in the UNITED STATES and when does this happen? (this article isnt about myself or Japan)
Chip Star
Thsts not a logical inference from my post.
It’s also had major side effects for some, but never mind that. Carry on.
Blacklabel
Once again:
Michigan Democrat thanks Trump, hydroxychloroquine for helping save her life from coronavirus
Saved her life! Isnt that amazing? why do liberals insist on mocking Trump for recommending a drug that saved even ONE life?
Busby
Doesn't make any difference who it was written by - it was located on the OPINION page...
As was the one I cited - in which you then said; "I was done here"
So explain how you cite as evidence an article from the OPINION page, but say "I'm done" when I cite one from the exact same page...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-wasted-briefings-11586389028?mod=opinion_major_pos1
nishikat
Trump said it is the magic bullet to get the economy back up again. He said it, so it must be true.
Trump said that even people who are how healthy should take the drug to prevent from getting sick. Like a vaccine. No wonder why the Trumps hate the WHO.
Yes, and that's why Trump said EVERYONE should take it. Is it available in Japan? It might save the Japan economy. Trump people, are you all trying to return to the USA in order to get this drug in case it's not available in Japan?
No, it will save ALL lives according to Trump.
Blacklabel
because you didnt say who wrote it or provide a link.
Now that I have read the article and know who wrote it, the criticism in that article is valid and more accurate than inaccurate. Despite starting with the cliched "my friend who voted for Trump says" opening.
Blacklabel
Trump has said none of those things. but you keep doing you.
So WHEN and HOW are people in the United States going to be able to leave home, be closer than 6 feet to someone else and get back to work?
nishikat
WRONG
“They also say it's good for the hospital workers to take them that it keeps it away, it keeps it out of your system,”
(Trump)
Blacklabel
even ones that have, by your own admission and public admissions of others, saved lives?
Chip Star
Correct. There are very good reasons for testing and approval of a drug before use.
Have a read, sorry it isn’t in audio form:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1177556
Blacklabel
someone even saw it on Fox News (gasp!) and took it and it saved their life too.I know that must anger you so.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/coronavirus-patient-says-hydroxychloroquine-saved-his-life
But we should just shut up and deny people life saving information? Even if it only worked for ONE person, it is well worth the President mentioning. Remember when 2.2 million people in the USA were going to die? then 120,000, then 60,000? all because of Trump.
Well, Trump is also saving lives with his hydroxychloroquine, China travel ban and shutting down the USA economy. How many tens of thousands of lives has he saved with these decisions?
Blacklabel
Ok, so just let people die waiting for "approval". Ever heard of "right to try"? thats a law in the USA.
Blacklabel
this is the most obvious thing I have ever read in your link. Quite obviously medicine works better earlier in a lesser sick person than it does at the very end with the very sickest people. Its not a cure.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1177556
Blacklabel
source? Dr Birx in fact said it is NOT a magic bullet.
nishikat
Trump doesn't agree. Proof:
Doctors suggest healthy people start taking the drug
(news source)
Blacklabel
side effects such as, death? and wouldnt these people have died anyway if they didnt take it?
bass4funk
Yes, it is true, but with very limited options, if there’s a chance it might work and keep me alive over nothing else and death, I’ll take that chance and many people are.
Busby
Well its kind of tough for all those that it has killed to say anything...
How about when it killed ONE person?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/03/23/man-dead-from-taking-chloroquine-after-trump-touts-drug-for-coronavirus/#36ee07d872e9
HIS hydroxychloroquine? So Trump does have a stake in this drug's maker...thanks for clearing that up...
Toasted Heretic
Don't forget to thank America, as well. Since you're blaming countries, rather than corrupt, inefficient regimes.
The Trump administration was warned about the pandemic. Instead, it played down the dangers, sought to muzzle experts and its leader is now offering medical advice, despite being a failed business man and reality TV star.
As for his alleged cures not killing anyone, that's more misinformation.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-cure-kills-man-after-trump-touts-chloroquine-phosphate
nishikat
Trump says there are no dangerous side effects and everyone should take it and it would act like a vaccine.
“They say taking [hydroxychloroquine] before the fact is good,” he said, adding that he “may take it.”
(Trump)
This means Trump is going to take it and everyone else should. If it's safe and good enough for Trump that means EVERYONE should take it.
Moderator
All readers back on topic please. And once again, we remind you to put aside your political differences on these threads.
WA4TKG
Thanks china. Nice going.
SuperLib
I thought we were supposed to have the country open by Easter.
bass4funk
Seems like certain industries are going back on line, great!
sunfunbun
There will be more unemployment as the coronavirus spreads throughout the USA, from the highly populated areas to the rural communities. Knowing for months the virus existed, came to the United States month ago, and now it spread everywhere in America is on China? No way. The blame game on China is juvenile at best, and completely wrong, at this point. Make no mistake the virus is spreading in the United States more than any place in the world as all states are vulnerable. This is a direct problem that cannot be blamed on China, it is ill preparation and poor execution of prevention by the United States government, who chose to deny the virus could affect the greatness of America, and then try to cover their tracks with lies and false blame.
The administration has not handled this properly and continues to scape goat instead of understanding the need for proper scientific information and less false narrative. One would think after the initial errors they would take responsibility, but this administration egregiously chooses to childishly say everything they do is perfect, while unemployment numbers will keep rising because they did nothing early on, and now claim getting people to work is the best thing and necessary. It's not a cure, it's shifting the problem so procrastination on true answers can be spun into the shadows. A Trump specialty.
They got it all backwards with no early execution plan, hope for miracles and blame someone else.
Trump is guessing and hoping on the hydroxychloroquine. He has zero idea if it is a cure for certain, but his presidency is based on what's right for himself, and not what is right for the question of life vs death for the good of people in the United States, so he will say yes, take it, I know it helps. In fact, he doesn't know. He'll do anything to fool and appease his followers, who oblige with ignorance, without questioning his wrongs.