Russia hits Ukraine's Black Sea port despite grain deal

Part of the deal is that Ukraine does not use the port for military purposes. They were, that's why the port of Odessa was hit.

The Russians agreed they wouldn't look to liberate the city via an attack from the sea so Ukraine could de-mine the port. They didn't say they'd allow US manufactured harpoon missiles and foreign mercenaries to be stations there.

Only 10 billion dollars of food to be exported ,I saw an associate at store ,throw away at least 10 trash bag of food ,it was probably good but has an expiration date on it,but mean it still edible

“In case of non-fulfillment, Russia will bear full responsibility for a global food crisis.”

But those supporting the Russia/China/Iran bloc will continue to say that the West/NATO/US/UK are at fault, using once again some version of their 'Russia was goaded into the war' defense. Putin's Russia is apparently so delicate it can continue to exist only when it has vassal states along its borders. Putin is showing he will flatten nations and kill off as many civilians as his armies can to ensure bordering states will bow down to his every command like his Russian people do. How far does he want his borders to extend, and will his current partner China allow him to do a Ukraine in areas within its Belt and Road territories. Putin the warmonger is putting the world at risk much to the delight of his backers who seem to want Putin's brand of totalitarianism to rule them.

Sign a deal to permit shipments and then bomb the port. Did anyone really believe that Putin would permit grain shipments from Ukraine? Guess he figures he'll get a higher price for Russian wheat if the Ukrainian ports are no longer functional. When you are a starving third world country, you can't be too picky where the grain comes from.

If Putin’s lips are moving he’s lying.

The Russians agreed they wouldn't look to liberate

Lol Imagine unironically using the word "liberate" to describe Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine.

the city via an attack from the sea so Ukraine could de-mine the port. They didn't say they'd allow US manufactured harpoon missiles and foreign mercenaries to be stations there.

Yeah, kind of not their decision to make, being Ukraine and all.

The world once again can see how dishonest the government of Russia is.

That agreement is just good enough to be flushed down the toilet!

Russia never intended to fulfill what had been agreed upon.

One hand signs the agreement, the other hand orders the shelling.

And, Axel, another "liberation", within 2 or 3 days?

C'mon, man, the last 150 days should have taught you something different.

Can you guys even read?

Ports shipping grain NOT to be used for military purposes.

Guess what happens if they are?

That's right...... They become targets. Russia just showing they will hold the Ukrainians to the agreement.

You can expect this to be repeated and the usual Kiev propaganda after.

@Shingen

You are really clueless, aren't you?

Lol Imagine unironically using the word "liberate" to describe Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine.

An imperialist act is an action carried out by a capitalist power in order to expand its economic, financial and military power, seeking to redivide the world under new conditions of existence.

First, the Russian bourgeoisie has no material basis for the expansion of its “empire.” Second, there is also missing in the psychological character of the Russian bourgeois state —it does not seek to defeat its rival imperialists, to take away its markets, to weaken its influence on the world stage. No, it seeks to make a deal with imperialism so that the Russian bourgeoisie, accustomed to its solely privileged parasitic position in a country rich in raw materials, will not be touched.

“In case of non-fulfillment, Russia will bear full responsibility for a global food crisis.”

The food crisis already started long before. The way they talk is like the whole world lives on only Ukraine wheat and oil etc.

but Russia’s invasion and naval blockade of its ports halted shipments.

No, Ukraine blocked their own ports by minin g them and would not agree to remove them so ships could come in without being blown up.

An imperialist act is an action carried out by a capitalist power in order to expand its economic, financial and military power,

Right, so you can very well see how this is an imperialist invasion, given the large amounts of natural resources in the areas Russia is attempting occupy in Ukraine.

seeking to redivide the world under new conditions of existence.

This is exactly the rhetoric Putin has been using.

First, the Russian bourgeoisie has no material basis for the expansion of its “empire.”

No basis? They're attempting it right now.

Mr. Kipling, please note. Ukraine and Russia signed separate but identical deals with the UN and Turkey, not with each other. Therefore any attack is a betrayal of the UN/Turkey agreement; basically the international community. Turkey and the UN were to be monitoring for any possible military use so if Russia had any suspicions they should have addressed it with the UN and Turkey, not unilaterally attack the place, this is called diplomacy and a respect for international standards, something that Putin has failed to demonstrate to the world. Forensic ballistics could provide more information on the projectiles.

…just in case you thought this might be the beginning of the end of this mess.

Look at the photos and targets were military. But not shown on western media.

Rodney - do you have a source you can share?

Rodney,

I don't know which photos you have available, but looking at this video (including the subtitles)

DEFINITELY not military targets. Maybe you can provide more info?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfrwPAJAsVc

Right, so you can very well see how this is an imperialist invasion, given the large amounts of natural resources in the areas Russia is attempting occupy in Ukraine.

Hmmm I was referring to Russia being rich in natural resources. It is absolutely certain that if NATO were not moving inexorable closer to Russia, the Russian bourgeoisie would not have moved to liberate any part of the Ukraine.

This is exactly the rhetoric Putin has been using.

Really? I doubt that. I mean, if you pick out half a sentence you can attribute it to just about anyone. I know Putin has made some muted noises about imperialism due to the popularity of Marxism in Russia, the Ukraine and the extreme right-wing character of the Ukrainian puppet regime. Uses it as a good promotional vehicle for everyone to get behind the liberation of the Ukraine from those fascists and their puppet masters. But in the end, it's all about protecting the privileged position of the Russian bourgeoisie.

At least I think it is. I didn't think he'd risk his and the Swiss bank accounts of the bourgeois to liberate the Ukraine at all. So I could be wrong about that last sentence. A few years ago Putin did let the cat out of the bag when in an unguarded comment, he said it is still far from certain which side (Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Socialiism vs capitalism, he didn't specify) is right.

No basis? They're attempting it right now.

Are you purposely playing dumb to annoy me? No material basis. i.e. Russian finance capital is extremely weak compared to the combined finance capital of Japan, Western Europe, North America.

Though obviously not the case when it comes to military power. They have outstanding engineers and scientists with none researching "financial instruments" or "gender studies" and etc.

That's impossible.

Russia run out of ammunition 4 months ago, as per the BBC "expertise"!

dbsaiya....

Mr. Kipling, please note. Ukraine and Russia signed separate but identical deals with the UN and Turkey, not with each other. Therefore any attack is a betrayal of the UN/Turkey agreement; basically the international community.

Regardless of who the deal is with, the deal is NO military activity in the port shipping grain.

If the Ukrainians break this part of the bargain, I wouldn't expect the Russians to go through diplomatic niceties, not really their style is it?

"I wouldn't expect the Russians to go through diplomatic niceties, not really their style is it?"

Well, Mr. Kipling, I don't know about that.

Wasn't there "some sign of good-will" from the aggressors side before.

Of course that didn't work out as expected (or wanted) like so many other signs.

Rodney - do you have a source you can share?

why? It’s not gonna alter your opinion.

Another source from western mainstream media. How about getting news from both sides, or is there something that needs to be hidden?

More lies and broken promises. That's the Russian way.

It all sounds good, but it's all a big lie.

Typical Ukraine propaganda after militarising it's port whilst agreeing not to.

why? It’s not gonna alter your opinion.

Alter my opinion on this particular incident? Perhaps.

Alter my opinion on the Russian invasion? Of course not.

FizzBit, since you can't provide any unbiased information ....

..... guess it's a fact that Russia once again shelled an infrastructure site with no military affiliation.

They're just so good at that!

Mr Kipling

Part of the deal is that Ukraine does not use the port for military purposes. They were, that's why the port of Odessa was hit.

Really? Two Russian Kalibr missiles hit the area of a pumping station at the port. Hardly a military purpose. Also, Russia is denying that it wasn't their missiles, so your argument doesn't hold true.

Yrral, yes, one was eliminated already, the - what was the name again (can't be that important, I guess) ....

.... oh, yes, now I remember, the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Navy - "Moskva".

Their nothing stopping Ukraine from shipping it grain,Odessa border NATO countries,sailing in NATO water give them protection from attack,OK their is different between a submarine and ship

Well..first of all if whoever fired the missiles wanted to destroy the grains they would have

Secondly the article says no grains were destroyed but then says silos were destroyed.

Trying to argue about what happened if you weren't actually there is futile and ridiculous.

We can only all ponder the facts presented by the media news sources or disinformation sources.

No grain storage facilities were hit in Odessa

And one missile struck a grain silo

And by the way both grains and fertilizers are extremely explosive.

Russia has two ports on the Black see.

Russia agrees to allow the shipments of grains and fertilizers and the USA is sending more advanced weaponry to Ukraine.

They didn't target the grains and fertilizers.

Perhaps some commenters are to dense to realize or acknowledge that very simple clear fact !

Can't you see how ridiculous it sounds to be holding Russia accountable for world food shortages of food and fertilizers that weren't actually destroyed.

And all the sanctions have done nothing except make the entire situation worse

Now you didn't expect Putin to be honest this time around, did ya?

What do you expect, Russia is doing what it does best.

Part of the deal is that Ukraine does not use the port for military purposes. They were, that's why the port of Odessa was hit.

The excuses for obvious Russian transgressions are coming almost as fast as the transgressions themselves these days.

Biden is under water in his Ukrainain policy in polls and corruption of Zelensky factor nothing ,when he have Russian agent in key position,maybe if Putin reveal his agent in Zelensky leadership,he will get ran out of town,unless Putin waiting for them stage a coup against Zelensky Google Zelensky Corruption

Watched a report with the missile hit on the grain area of the port less than 24 hours earlier the Russians signed agreements and said it would not attack. No significant damage was done.

20 million tons of grain are in the port.

My guess is the agreement only covers the ships and their navigation on sea. It’s someone else’s problem to peacefully fill them with wheat etc and enough motor diesel to get them out of the harbors. So the agreement is fulfilled completely but the delivery chain still interrupted, because the agreement doesn’t rule into the land conflict so it’s not forbidden or avoided to devastate the port cities , ports, cranes, logistics and other technical facilities. Only the ships have to be untouched, and that’s exactly what they are.

Sven...

My guess is the agreement only covers the ships and their navigation on sea.

Your guess is wrong. The Russians were targeting pre existing military targets.

Russia gains nothing from this agreement apart from some international good will from nations not under under western dominance. Hence the Ukraine propaganda machine condemning Russia for a Ukrainian breach.

The Russians were targeting pre existing military targets.

We know how good they are at hitting those military targets. Especially military shopping malls, military children’s hospitals and now military grain silos.

So, there are those who accept that the US installed regime that has been relentlessly attacking the population of the industrial and agricultural heartland of the former Ukraine for almost a decade despite having reluctantly signed an international treaty hammered out in Minsk TWICE to stop doing so tends to lie more brazenly than Trump, and those who declare everyone who dares to not acquiesce to the US taking whatever it wants, whenever it wants, by whatever means it chooses are evil incarnate so everything they say is a lie, even when the evidence shows it to be the truth.

PS, if you're old enough to remember the US invasion of Yugoslavia and the media coverage that declared everything those the US opposed did to be war crimes, and everything those the US supported to be perfectly acceptable, the ICTY (forerunner to the ICC) case files and findings are on their website. Even if you're not old enough to remember the coverage, the findings will give you an accurate picture of what is, and isn't a war crime, useful knowledge to judge the claims being made about what is happening in the former Ukraine.

Russian missiles hit Odesa, dealing blow to grain deal:

One day, Russia said Odesa would be free for Ukraine to export food.

The next day, it started to bombard the port wildly.

What is Putin up to?

Actually, why would he care for other poor nations' impending food crisis..?

Mr KiplingToday  07:24 am JST

Can you guys even read?

Ports shipping grain NOT to be used for military purposes.

Guess what happens if they are?

That's right...... They become targets. Russia just showing they will hold the Ukrainians to the agreement.

You can expect this to be repeated and the usual Kiev propaganda after.

Totally true.

I guess the message Russia is trying to send is, "No more mister nice guy." (Not that it ever was.)

When cutting through the propaganda, the fake news, what other nasty surprises and atrocities is the government of Russia going to unleash.

Offering and signing a deal to allow grain exports, essential to avert a global fainne crisis, only to hours later order Kalibr cruise missiles to hit the Odessa port's infrastructure.

A new low.

Anyone familiar with Vlad’s “negotiation” tactics will be familiar with this situation:

1) Negotiate in “good faith.”

2) Violate the agreement with actual violence if possible.

3) Attempt to muddy the waters with a contrived excuse.

He did it with the Chechens.

He did it In Georgia

He attempted to do it in Syria but his Wagner boys kind of all got blown up by U.S. forces.

He did it in Ukraine in 2014.

He’s doing it now.

The only way Vlad stops is when he meets a force he cannot overwhelm.

As such Ukraine should be supplied with arms Naval ground and air to send the Russians back to Russia or to their eternal reward - their choice.

Putin wants those mines removed in the port .

Simple as that

I have no idea what to believe, both Russia and Ukraine have to same Soviet weapons we only have Ukraine's word on what or who fire where. I don't believe any Russian propaganda and being the second most corrupt country in Europe and being below the Philippines internationally ( corruption) one would need to be a fool to take Ukraines word either.

When yesterday's article had this in it:

Yet in Kyiv, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba sounded a more somber note.

> “I’m not opening a bottle of champagne because of this deal,” Kuleba told The Associated Press. “I will keep my fingers crossed that this will work, that ships will carry grain to world markets and prices will go down and people will have food to eat. But I’m very cautious because I have no trust in Russia.”

I said to my wife "tomorrow"Russia " will fire on the port just wait and see!"

Before the agreement the EU was saying it was all Russian, the African Union was saying it was the EU and USA blocking SWIFT causing the problem.

Now the deal is signed and suddenly the EU and USA admit that the Sanctions blocked fodd and they are fixing the problem, Coincidence?!!?

Plane with weapons crashes, suddenly the USA asks Ukraine to account for all the weapons sent to them, another coincidence!?

The HIMARS system sent to Ukraine, the ukrainians are not given access, "out of service NATO personnel" man them only one has the codes, they are keeped under armed security of again private "out of service NATO personnel" this gives hint at how much the USA actually trusts Ukraine that they set up their own USA loyal guards to keep everyone away including the Ukrainian military.

After 5 months of savagery the Russian bear continues to run amok in Ukraine's china shop and shows no sign of stopping its rampage. It's high time to get the gun from the West.

f you're old enough to remember the US invasion of Yugoslavia

Major deflection, Russia invaded Ukraine and the grain shipment is the topic of the article.

he food crisis already started long before

I agree with the above, the western led global fossil economy has created millions of problems everywhere. And now the Russia/China/Iran bloc are making things worse while they attempt to take further control of the global fossil economy. The fact that each of those powers cares so little about the majority of their own respective citizens does not bode well for the rest of the world if the BRICS end up taking even greater control of the planet.

gintonic

Today 12:38 pm JST

Oh you mean you don't know why?

I mean those same JT experts have said it many times,

Putin is crazy, oh no he has cancer and dying, no wait it is Alzheimer's, he is another Hitler, no Stalin, etc...BUT despite all that and the supposed irrational behavior, he is just below the crazy,etc... needed to use nuclear weapons if invaded by NATO or is attacked by NATO, isn't that convenient, he is just the right level of sick/dying/crazy.

And anyone believing all that stuff said by these experts can contact me a have a nice tropical resort investment opportunity in Povungnituk Bay. ( Sarcasm)

@Haaa Nemui

We know how good they are at hitting those military targets. Especially military shopping malls, military children’s hospitals and now military grain silos

We know how good the Ukrainians are at using local population as human shields and using civilian infrastructure to hide their soldiers and military equipment. This tactics was perfected by ISIS in Syria, the Ukroforces learned their tricks.

We also know how one-sided MSM reports are. They ignored for eight years the bombardments of Donbass by Ukroforces and all their crimes there since 2014, they ignored how Ukraine broke two peace agreements of 2015, they ignore massive bombardments of cities now. The city of Kherson (supposedly "Ukrainian") was hit with dozens of US-supplied HIMARS missiles recently, Two days ago Ukrainian drones attacked the Zaporozhye nuclear power station. Nothing in Western news so far.

BTW the news hype about the HIMARS being a "Game changer" should do more checking.

The USA has sent between 8band 12 and plans on sending 7 more.

Ukraine officially say to make a difference they will require 100, yep officially they say they need 100.

It says something that Zelensky's Minister of (civil) War just issued a plea for someone, anyone, pretty, pretty, pretty please, who lives in the parts of the former Ukraine that Zelensky no longer has control of to contact them with information about where the Russian forces are, who has joined the local militias opposed to Zelensky and where they (or their families) are, and who's been critical of Zelensky.

Seeing as according to the reports here and in similar media, just about everyone in those territories is absolutely loyal to Zelensky, hates those who are fighting for local autonomy from Zelensky, and regards the Russian forces as evil incarnate, I guess that the problem is that in the information age, people just can't figure out how to get in contact with the ministry.

If Putin’s lips are moving he’s lying.

It is very clear and it has been said, the dude can't be trusted. In addition he is a sadist.

Putin wants those mines removed in the port .

Simple as that

Of course he wants them removed. So that his ships can get in close and stage a landing. He hates it when the people he wants to kill have the temerity to defend themselves.

If Putin’s lips are moving he’s lying.

They don’t even need to be moving. All the time he sits there pretending to be human, he’s lying his head off.

The scumbag.

Russia can't be trusted, period!!!! EVER!!!

Part of the deal is that Ukraine does not use the port for military purposes.

The Ukraine navy is all but gone. They have a right to defend the city being used for civilian purposes like shipping grain. They are not maintaining military vessels as far as I know Russia claims they are all sunk.

In addition the agreement was not even 24 hours old so anything that Russia wanted removed and Ukraine had agreed to, had no time to be removed before the Russian attack.

Russia again showing it is not capable of making promises it will abide by. I cant say I am surprised as it was almost certain that Russia would not follow through, as most of the agreed cease fires for civilian evacuations from cities were also ignored by Russian forces.

Unless unaligned UN forces can be deployed, perhaps from African nations where the grain is urgently needed, to police and protect the port area's, then this is not going to last more than a day or two at best at any time.

Putin has lied since he was building up his troops on the borders claiming he would not invade Ukraine.

seeing it doesn't trust Ukraine and requires the HIMARS to remain under lock and key with only "out of service NATO personnel" having access and operating them,

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with my English skills, but googling ‘out of service NATO personnel’ brings up nothing about Himars, Ukraine or anything even remotely related.

Either provide a valid link to back up your claims, or please stop blustering.

In 2020 the USA military had a "celebration" marking the 500 the HIMARS to be built ( over a 10 years period) since then fewer than 40 have been produced

So sign the contracts and ramp up the production. Peace time procurement and wartime production tend to be a bit different .

And yeah, given how pathetically inept the red “army” has proven itself to be, I do in fact think that giving Ukraine 1/5th outlet stock to ward off an expansionist aggressor long before he can threaten NATO is actually not a bad idea.

Thanks for your helpful suggestion!

We know how good the Ukrainians are at using local population as human shields and using civilian infrastructure to hide their soldiers and military equipment. This tactics was perfected by ISIS in Syria, the Ukroforces learned their tricks.

Oh I’ve seen the reports. You make it sound as though it’s a relatively new tactic. It isn’t. The Russians are very adept at it. But usually the reports of these missile attacks follow a certain pattern, initially with a denial by Russian authorities and pointing fingers at inexperienced Ukrainians firing off missiles that go stray (or something similar, but always a denial), and ending up with admission “but human shields”. So the next time an American drone hits a bus full of Middle Eastern schoolchildren and they call out the human shields excuse, I hope you’ll be ok with it then too. I won’t be

cleo

Today 02:29 pm JST

seeing it doesn't trust Ukraine and requires the HIMARS to remain under lock and key with only "out of service NATO personnel" having access and operating them,

> I don’t think there’s anything wrong with my English skills, but googling ‘out of service NATO personnel’ brings up nothing about Himars, Ukraine or anything even remotely related.

Sorry my bad!

The exact Tittle is:

out-of-staff NATO personnel

Not out of service!

Good luck