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Western powers have long made clear the fate of Ukraine wasn't worth a direct military confrontation

That must make the Ukrainians feel real special.

I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians.

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world leaders hit back with non-military actions Tuesday in hopes of averting a full-blown war in Europe.

Putin has calculated that Russia will be able to withstand any sanctions with Chinese help, and that any sanctions will hurt the Western economies more than Russia.

So Biden and Boris Johnson impose sanctions on Russia. Good lord, you can’t even convince people to wear masks to save the lives of your own countrymen. What chance do you have of getting people to support any economic pain to help people in a country most have never heard about? Per NBC news survey 84% of Americans don’t know where Ukraine is. Gas prices hurt.

Putin has so poisoned US politics that the Republicans hate Biden more than Putin. Fox News is already attacking Biden for the sanctions.

What Nixon realized is that you do not want Russia and China on the same side. The amount of incompetence it took for the US to get Russia and China on the same side is hallucinating.

Russia and China know the game. The US should be reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms 三国志 instead of The Art of War.

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So, anyone ask themselves what happens if Russia responds by simply refusing to do business with any country that joins in with the effort to bankrupt it?

You know China won't be joining the US etc, so it's not as if that would cut it off from the global economy, and there are other countries that the hypocrisy of the fine sounding phrases that the US etc are spouting will offend.

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Thank you Russia. For years the minority people of Donbass have suffered genocide, while the West supplied lethal weapons for Ukrainian militas and military forces to bomb their own citizens.

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Biden issued sanctions and now what? We are taking the defensive approach and now what?

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Biden issued sanctions and now what? We are taking the defensive approach and now what?

Do you want President Biden to send in American troops?

And then whine that he is putting American lives in danger.

The fringe right wing need to stop whining and start thinking!!!

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Putin has so poisoned US politics that the Republicans hate Biden more than Putin.

As only makes sense. Biden is destroying their country. Putin is thousands of miles away destroying another country that most Americans couldn't find on a map. The question is: Why would anyone in the US focus hate on someone so far away? Do distract from real problems at home perhaps?

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Meanwhile

Russia's state TV is proudly showing off Mike Pompeo's recent commentary, where he said about Putin: “Very shrewd. Very capable. I have enormous respect for him.

trump’s boys cannot stop praising this murderous dictator and yet the right wing bigots whine that President Biden needs to do more!!!

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Reading GOP tweets tonight, Republicans need to stop their trump-was-tough-on-Putin nonsense . The world is on the brink of war and you’re busy pushing out Putin’s propaganda? Put down that hammer & sickle and stand with US, not Russia. You’re an embarrassment to Reagan’s legacy.

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Biden issued sanctions and now what? We are taking the defensive approach and now what?

You've advocated doing nothing because . . . Tucker. Now you're advocating . . . What are you advocating anyway?

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I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians.

?

Once again cheerleading for war, from a safe spot far away. Syria apparently didn't satisfy his need for others to fight wars for them. Those cheerleading for wars have must investments in Russian defense industries, or does their Lord Putin allow them to hold shares in his corporations. War and oil go together, 'til death do we part.

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And it doesn’t stop

Trump on Putin’s aggression into eastern Ukraine: "I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. … I said, 'How smart is that?’"

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Biden issued sanctions and now what? We are taking the defensive approach and now what?

Yes, America should start a war with Russia and show Russia whose boss, right?

Or if I'm not right, what exactly are you saying? What course of action do you suggest?

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Do you want President Biden to send in American troops? 

No, I want to know why Biden would even think he could talk Putin out of taking Ukraine? Especially after Afghanistan that wasn’t even up for discussion.

And then whine that he is putting American lives in danger.

There are thousands of Americans living in the Ukraine so…

The fringe right wing need to stop whining and start thinking!!!

Not whining, that’s for the left, many of us are just asking a legitimate question and Biden is just not answering them, he will not deal with growing and continued problems in America, but he’s feverishly rushing to fix the un-fixable in the Ukraine.

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I think the main deterrent for Mr. Putin is the possibility the Ukrainians might bleed his forces white. Back in 1939 Joe Stalin made false claims about the nature of Finland and it's government to justify an invasion, and even staged a fake attack, blowing up a Russian border post and blaming it on the Finns as a pretext to invade Finland. The resulting war didn't work out too well for the Russians. They got a few tens of kilometers of Finland at the expense of well over 100,000 dead Soviet troops and hundreds of thousands more injured or suffering from frostbite. The Finns were later able to turn the tables and march into Leningrad. I'm not sure how much of a student of history Mr. Putin is but I think his own greatest fear is not so much western sanctions as he fears a steady stream of Russian soldiers coming home in body bags. His hold on power is too brittle to withstand that. He has to know that casualties from Afghanistan is a big part of what led to the collapse of the USSR. A high body count in Ukraine could very well be the end of Mr. Putin.

I also have to wonder how much of a chess player he is. He complains bitterly about NATO moving closer to the Russian border. Does he not realize that both Sweden and Finland have for the past several years been debating whether or not to join NATO. This could very likely push both nations to do so, and the result would be US and other NATO forces right on the Russian border in Finland.

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Does anyone here going on about sending troops, over sanctions or others going on about harsher sanctions, etc .. criticising western leaders as if they know something the western leaders don't Actually have a plan, do you people actually know what is best or what will work?

Probably not a clue.

Ok on one hand sanctions, blockade, isolation, penalties, etc... This in not Iran, Iraq, or some other small country without power, it is Russia, well armed with nukes and a border right up on western Europe and a stone's throw from the USA.

Ok military intervention, great just what we need a 3rd major war that starts in Europe, especially with Russia, somehow things never end well for those that decide to pick a fight with Russia.

Sanctions sound like a great idea until the other side decides it has had enough and if it is big enough decides to fight back in a more direct way ( think pre WW2 Japan and Germany with WW1 war reparations and sanctions).

Now the problem is appeasement as in the per WW2 Sudetenland is also a problem as this is again a very well armed nuclear power.

So both the "more sanctions" and the "military intervention" sides need to think long and hard, let the people with far greater and more details handle things because one wrong move and you or your children may find yourselves on the front line staring down the barrel of a gun or hiding in a bomb shelter.

It seems as humans we have short memories

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West supplied lethal weapons for Ukrainian militas and military forces to bomb their own citizens.

Militas which are openly, proudly fascist.

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Responding swiftly to Russian President Vladimir Putin's order sending troops to separatist regions of Ukraine, world leaders hit back with non-military actions Tuesday in hopes of averting a full-blown war in Europe.

What next? We will send him a sternly written letter as well??

Block their SWIFT network.

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I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians.

I though Russia weren’t going to invade and it was all fake msm hype.

Backpedaling much?

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Biden issued sanctions and now what? We are taking the defensive approach and now what?

You’ve said continuously that this was a fake war and that The US should stay out of it. Just pretend it isn’t happening, seemed to work for you so far.

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The American right, guided by its chief philosopher, Tucker Carlson of Fox News and the Kremlin's Internet Research Agency, are now fully behind Russia and it's fascist expansionism.

So the main single country with the strength to stand up and get Russia to back down is too divided even on this issue, let alone all the others it's been fed over recent years with the aim of destabilising national national unity.

Russia has already beaten the West in a game that most didn't even realise they were playing.

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Desert TortoiseToday  08:04 am JST

Interesting take on "the Winter war,"

And your blending it into WW2.

But you put an interesting twist but forgot to put in some very important facts.

Finland lost the winter war, not only did Finland loose the war, it lost even more territory than Stalin and the Soviet Union was demanding prior to the war, in total Finland lost over 9% of it's territory.

Then your

The Finns were later able to turn the tables and march into Leningrad

Is also misleading as it was nazi Germany with the Finland joining it and never actually marched in to be exact the seige was lost by the Nazi and their Finland allies and after the war Finland lost even more and had to pay the USSR reparations.

So your example is one that shows the aggression actually paid off for the USSR as it gained even more than it had been demanding.

I am not saying it was right, I am not saying what is going on now is right but I am saying if you are going to point out something in History, do it correctly and with the full details.

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West supplied lethal weapons for Ukrainian militas and military forces to bomb their own citizens.

US/NATO supports neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Al Qaida in Syria. ISIS in Iraq. Fascist murder squads in Central America. Fascist junta's in South America.

In any conflict against any regime even learning left in accordance with the democratic wishes of the population, US/NATO sends the attack dogs in.

Unfortunately for them, all this tyranny hasn't stemmed the precipitous decline in the economic power of those tyrannical regimes but in fact has hastened it. Playing with numbers aside, in terms of the real economy, China is already the #1 economic power by some distance and Russian weapons are far superior.

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No, it’s a question and a valid one this President just will not answer.

So, give a clear answer. What do you think Biden should do?

And remember, if he does it you’ll then have to say it was a terrible idea and deny you ever supported it, so think carefully.

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Just a “minor incursion”. Biden weakly said that’s ok a few weeks ago.

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Contrary to myth, there is no Putin/Biden "summit" planned.

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So, give a clear answer.

Not me, I asked the question.

What do you think Biden should do?

What he should have done was never get involved in a dispute between Russia, Ukraine and NATO and if Ukraine needed assistance then Biden should have helped to arm them over a year ago and hit Russia with sanctions then, not that it would have done anything significant to the point where the Chinese can’t compensate for any losses they incur.

And remember, if he does it you’ll then have to say it was a terrible idea and deny you ever supported it, so think carefully.

No, I’m not a liberal, so no flip flopping here.

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The Finns were later able to turn the tables and march into Leningrad

Say what? Is this some alternate reality? There is a very famous siege often referred to, "The 900 days". The fascists fought and failed to enter the city for 900 days.

But it is something a lot of people talk about. Why didn't Stalin punish Finland severely? Rumor is that he had a pro-Finnish bias because at one point he escaped the Tsarist secret police hiding out if Finland at which time he first met Lenin.

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Russia and China know the game.

Of course they do, they are leaders of what the far right called, 'the new world order', they are the global masters that rightists used to claim they were opposed to. Both China aka CCP, and the Russian Federation aka Putinistan, know that for them to maintain control over the globe they have to sell their products to friendly states, and it could be with the Eurasian Economic Union and Belt and Road they have their networks in place. Russia and China's state predatory capitalism has outpaced western forms of predatory capitalism. Their approaches have left the Milton Friedman /Ayn Ran believers breathing their exhaust fumes

Western corporations and governments have helped create Russia and China as the globe's ruling empires, and many of the global wealthy have become richer helping them do so. Xi and Putin have also had lots of help from rightist social media trolls (aka useful idiots) constantly throwing fuel on long burning fires and fanning flames in their attempts to further divide and thereby weaken western democracies. The latest batch of useful I..s have been the "it's my body", freedom moaning herds.

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Block their SWIFT network.

Good idea. And have Germany and etc hire enough armored guards and trucks to occupy Paris, deliver the cash money to the Russian central bank in Moscow for the oil, gas and etc.

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The American right, guided by its chief philosopher, Tucker Carlson of Fox News and the Kremlin's Internet Research Agency, are now fully behind Russia and it's fascist expansionism. 

I mean, what a load of garbage. Lol

So the main single country with the strength to stand up and get Russia to back down is too divided even on this issue, let alone all the others it's been fed over recent years with the aim of destabilising national national unity. 

That would be Putin and Ukraine.

Russia has already beaten the West in a game that most didn't even realise they were playing.

I actually agree on that one.

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Of course they do, they are leaders of what the far right called, 'the new world order',

I think the far right claim that the WEF is the head of the New World Order.

Do you know who the WEF are?

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Poor, poor Ukraine. It hasn't done anything to anybody but try to live and exist peacefully and happily, and now this amplified barbaric assault.

If you live in a prosperous & democratic country near one of these powerful dictatorships, be careful!

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Biden should have helped to arm them over a year ago and hit Russia with sanctions then, not that it would have done anything significant to the point where the Chinese can’t compensate for any losses they incur.

You just gave a suggestion and said that it was pointless in the same sentence. Well done, I suppose.

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bass4funk

So how is Biden going to get these people out? Them being there if a war breaks out is going to possibly get Americans killed.

Umm, maybe they can book a plane ticket? Seems like a reasonable approach.

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Russia has China now, they don't need the west for anything anymore....

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bass4funk

What do you think Biden should do?

What he should have done was never get involved in a dispute between Russia, Ukraine and NATO and if Ukraine needed assistance then Biden should have helped to arm them over a year ago

Oh you mean give them some money to buy arms etc.? Yeah, the US did that, but some Orange Man made it contingent on getting dirt on Biden...

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Putin is an old, senile and full of lies grandfather, whose brain is filled with warmongering madness.

Someone has to withdraw him from his power.

The European Countries and the US know already since many years that he is a high threat to the world piece.

Sanctions? I guess Sanctions will not really impress Putin.

But let's hope that someone or somehow can convince this old insane man to stop his crazy actions, which can lead the world in a big war.

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As Russian tanks roll into Ukraine, Trump says it wouldn’t have happened if he were president and criticizes Biden but has no words of criticism for Putin or his actions, instead calling them “genius,” “smart” and “pretty savvy.”

That sums up the idiot right wing thinking!!!

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You just gave a suggestion and said that it was pointless in the same sentence.

No, it’s just this administration got us now bogged down in a mess that their trying to clear up on aisle 9.

Well done, I suppose.

Not this President

Umm, maybe they can book a plane ticket? Seems like a reasonable approach.

Only to Honolulu

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The Republican Party - can it even call itself that anymore? When it comes to Russia, It's gone from "barking dog" to "lapdog"...

Eisenhower stood up to the Russians in Europe, Nixon faced down the Russians in the Middle East, Reagan stood tall and told Gorbachev to "tear down this wall"....

But now we get a former Republican President who calls the Russian leader "a genius" and "savvy", and says that a Russian invasion of another sovereign country is "wonderful"....

Perhaps some of our Trump supporters here can explain to us how from the US and the West's perspective, Russia's invasion of their neighbor is "wonderful"?

Help us understand that....

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Russia provided Ukraine with security guarantees when they gave up their nuclear weapons.

Disclosure, my family is from Russia, east of Ukraine.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.

Ref: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion

Belarus and Kazakhstan followed Ukraine. Beware to the people in those places.

Sanctions - full cutoff of all trade - are what needs to happen to Russia over this action. Ukraine is a stable democracy that Russia has been trying to destabilize the last decade. Russia is trying to take the mind off internal failures - like the pitiful COVID response - and get eyes looking elsewhere. Russia (Putin) couldn't wait for all the Russians moving into Ukraine to take over political offices, then get parts cut off later. Impatient people suck.

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I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians.

Biden couldn't protect his front lawn from weeds, he is a senile, fragile old man voted in by reactionary leftists.

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@Bass4funk

Not this President

Your favorite president trump loves Putin plan of invading another country.

Trump on Putin plan to recognize breakaway Ukraine regions: 'This is genius'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-putin-plan-recognize-breakaway-212156109.html

Tucker Carlson also supports Putin's plans. He is fawning over a great interview with Putin.

Tucker Carlson Defends Putin Amid Ukraine Crisis: ‘That Is Not Treason’

https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-defends-putin-not-treason/

Why do the Republicans and its "independent" supporters hate democracy so much?

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@Blacklabel

Just a “minor incursion”. Biden weakly said that’s ok a few weeks ago.

You also said Biden would not become president and his predecessor was doing a great job to get re-elected into office. You been wrong MANY times before.

Considering your track record, I assumed you could be sympathetic to others missteps.

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If you live in a prosperous & democratic country near one of these powerful dictatorships, be careful!

Ukraine is "prosperous and democratic"........ God have mercy. What has the corporate media done to the brains of these people........

Ukraine was somewhat prosperous 8 years ago. Not compared to Norway but compared to Romania, Bulgaria, especially Albania and etc. Now it's by far the poorest country in Europe. Even compared to Albania.

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@Blacklabel

Biden and his team was right from the get go. They laid out Putin's entire playbook. Putin is being shown to be the dangerous fraud.

Kremlin says a dramatic Security Council meeting on Ukraine was recorded in advance, after people realized a minister's watch showed the wrong time

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-admits-dramatic-security-council-123452192.html

This is why Putin hates social media because he can not control the news that comes out like trying to control the tides or crashing waves.

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Your favorite president trump loves Putin plan of invading another country.

What? Ok, leave the emotion, proof please. Recognizing and supporting an all out invasion are two entirely different things and have different meanings, so where did he say he supported a full on invasion?

Tucker Carlson also supports Putin's plans.

No, he absolutely does not, I can show you every transcript from his show where he didn’t say that. He specifically asked and (legitimately) what is in it for the US to stick it’s neck out for a country that is not even a member of NATO? How will that close the porous border? How will that reduce food prices or gas prices especially? Why did Biden wait so long to implement sanctions? Why is it that this President is so weak in his response to this guy and didn’t take a preemptive steps to begin sanctioning Russia a year ago?

https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/10/tucker-carlson-mike-turner-ukraine-russia-troops-fox-news/

Why do the Republicans and its "independent" supporters hate democracy so much?

We don’t that’s why we are so befuddled that Biden wouldn’t even allow himself to be drawn in like this.

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No, it’s just this administration got us now bogged down in a mess that their trying to clear up on aisle 9.

trump is busy praising his master putin and the loony right wing wants to blame President Biden!!!

Ordinary Russians are against invading Ukraine yet the GOP is backing putin!!!

Seems like we have an enemy within!!!

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What else can you call this but naked aggression? Will it be appeasement or will it be war? It's 1938 all over again, and the clock is ticking...

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That must make the Ukrainians feel real special.

I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians

Are you crazy?

Thank God Biden has enough sense when he correctly said essentially... we can't put American troops in Ukraine and create a situation where American and Russians are shooting each other, because that's a WORLD WAR.

.. between the 2 top nuclear countries on earth.

It would be all over for everyone on earth.

Putin already told Europe last week the Russians are one of the top nuclear countries on earth, and if Europe gets drawn into a conflict, it would be all over "in the blink of an eye".

Sounds like a threat to me.

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trump is busy praising his master putin

Trump is not the President. As you guys kept telling us. Biden is trying to fix something he is botching up again.

Ordinary Russians are against invading Ukraine

And yet the invasion will happen.

yet the GOP is backing putin!!!

Not one is backing Putin, not one.

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TokyoJoeToday  09:06 am JST

I thought Biden promised to protect the Ukrainians.

Biden couldn't protect his front lawn from weeds, he is a senile, fragile old man voted in by reactionary leftists.

The fact this post is still on and yet the moderators will suspend you for calling Donald trump ‘donald’ shows who is moderating today.

bass4funkToday  08:49 am JST

The American right, guided by its chief philosopher, Tucker Carlson of Fox News and the Kremlin's Internet Research Agency, are now fully behind Russia and it's fascist expansionism. 

I mean, what a load of garbage. Lol

And this poster/moderator can get away with this language but anyone else will get deleted!

Anyone wants to bet that bass will have the last post before he closes this thread!!!

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@Rodney 7.42am

Ever heard of Chechnya???

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Trump is not the President. As you guys kept telling us. Biden is trying to fix something he is botching up again.

Glad you accepted that trump lost bigly!!

Biden is trying to fix trump’s mess, he almost turned over America to Russia.

And yet the invasion will happen.

putin knows that china and the GOP will support him!!!

Not one is backing Putin, not one.

your master trump, his lackey pompeo…… unless you mean they are not GOP!!!!

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Today, we are at DEFCON Level 3 (Round House).

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Biden is trying to fix trump’s mess,

No, Biden is not fixing the mess he made in the US and if he’s trying to fix anything then he needs to leave it alone especially when you look at Afghanistan and now the Ukraine.

he almost turned over America to Russia.

Uranium One was turned over to the Russians by a former Democrat Secretary of State.

> putin knows that china and the GOP will support him!!!

Not one person is supporting Russia. The kindergarten playground talk will not stop Putin from making sure that Ukraine never becomes part of NATO

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I have no doubt in my mind that if Tulsi Gabbard became President none of this would be happening. It was the corporate MSM choice to go with the old fart Biden, now you have to live with it. Childish to bring Trump into this.

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It is time for a uprising in the Khabarovsk region of Russian anti-Putin sentiment.

I already recognize them as an independent nation.

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I follow a certain person’s Twitter account. Someone who claims not to use Twitter but has tweeted literally over 300 times in the past few hours. New app not working?

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No, Biden is not fixing the mess he made in the US and if he’s trying to fix anything then he needs to leave it alone 

ROFL, contradicting your there, try reading before posting!!

Uranium One was turned over to the Russians by a former Democrat Secretary of State.

Trump shared Intelligence with Russia, and it was so worrying that even the Israelis stopped sharing secrets with US.

Not one person is supporting Russia.

The GOP is.

The kindergarten playground talk will not stop Putin from making sure that Ukraine never becomes part of NATO 

I agree , trump should stop gushing about putin!!!

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bass4funk: "Not one person is supporting Russia."

Hogwash. Plenty of the GOP and its supporters are, especially Trump, and if you support them in doing so, you also support Russia.

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What were Japan's sanctions, just out of curiosity. Kishida said yesterday he'd do it.

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The GOP is.

Which Republican outright and verbatim said that they fully support Russia to annex Ukraine?

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@bass4funk

Only one former secretary of state is praising Putin and criticizing Biden in Ukraine crisis

https://www.yahoo.com/news/only-one-former-secretary-state-160444530.html

Why do the Republicans and its "independent" supporters hate democracy so much?

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"Trump says it wouldn't have happened if he were president and criticizes Biden but has no words of criticism for Putin or his actions . . . "

But, but, but . . . "I ALONE can fix it!"

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Not one is backing Putin, not one.

Not one person is supporting Russia.

Then explain this; "Former President Donald Trump praised Vladimir Putin in a podcast interview on Tuesday, describing the Russian president's justification for invading Ukraine as "savvy" and "genius." "I went in yesterday, and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said when asked about the news. "I said, 'How smart is that?'

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-ukraine-invasion-justification-genius-savvy-2022-2

"Smart", "Genius", "Savvy", "Wonderful"....sure sounds like pretty strong "backing and support" to me....

Sounds exactly like what Trump says at his rallies when he's "backing" a candidate...which in this case, he certainly is...

MAGA-world is now fully owned by the Russians...and the proof is in the words above from the MAGA-King himself...

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Not whining, that’s for the left, many of us are just asking a legitimate question and Biden is just not answering them, he will not deal with growing and continued problems in America, but he’s feverishly rushing to fix the un-fixable in the Ukraine.

So unless a US president has solved all the domestic problems of the United States first, they shouldn’t do any foreign policy stuff? That doesn’t make much sense.

Also, and I just note this because I like irony, even in the same paragraph that you claim to not be whining, you can’t help but start whining again.

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Some sanctions and lip service .

The U.K and Boris NOT sanctioning the oligarchs in the UK ..Useless.

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Which Republican outright and verbatim said that they fully support Russia to annex Ukraine?

It’ll be easier to count the ones who don’t!!!

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"Smart", "Genius", "Savvy", "Wonderful"....sure sounds like pretty strong "backing and support" to me....

Not unless they specifically say the words. You would make a bad case as a lawyer if you tried to tie someone to a belief based on a few adjectives. Again, show a quote where any Republican said that they outright support a full on invasion of Ukraine. Try it. You know you absolutely can’t.

So unless a US president has solved all the domestic problems of the United States first, they shouldn’t do any foreign policy stuff?

That does take priority particularly when you factor in that the Ukraine is not even a part of NATO.

That doesn’t make much sense.

It does not.

Also, and I just note this because I like irony, even in the same paragraph that you claim to not be whining, you can’t help but start whining again

Not whining, tune in to CNN, they’re whining about one topic and one topic only.

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Hogwash. Plenty of the GOP and its supporters are, especially Trump,

Ok, quotes! If it’s hogwash as you claim, who verbatim said they support an invasion?

and if you support them in doing so, you also support Russia.

Uhh, I don’t and have been quite clear on that.

Why do the Republicans and its "independent" supporters hate democracy so much?

If we hated it we would be Democrats.

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That does take priority particularly when you factor in that the Ukraine is not even a part of NATO.

Which is exactly what putin wants, thanks for showing your support for putin, yet again!!!

Not whining, tune in to CNN, they’re whining about one topic and one topic only.

Better switch back to faux, you might miss out on directions on what to whine about!!!

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Not whining, tune in to CNN, they’re whining about one topic and one topic only.

Sorry I can’t resist pointing out that now you are whining about CNN in the same sentence you insist you aren’t whining.

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Better switch back to faux, you might miss out on directions on what to whine about!!!

It's definitely quaint watching Americans criticize the other team's media in America, clearly victims of their bubble to not realize that there isn't such a thing as good media anywhere in America!

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Here is the Chief military strategist say about this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7b0JCMY3A

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Russian President Putin Statement on Ukraine

https://www.c-span.org/video/?518097-2/russian-president-putin-recognizes-independence-donetsk-luhansk-ukraines-donbas-region

Note the interpretation of historical events.

Putin military force, land, sea, and air, the most significate build of armour, armed forces since the second world war.

Putin's rambling speech, his constant twisting and rewriting of past events as far back as the 17th century, combined with the sheer size and strength of the Putin assembled armed services indicates Putin will move against and grab back former soviet states.

Expect Russian government to wage a huge social media propaganda war, mis-information, fake news, mass cyber attacks.

The manner President Macron was cynically and callously publicly humiliated, a President Macron devoted to finding a process for de-escalation, a peaceful solution.

Putin won't stop he is a frightened man, lashing out at his own advisers and government.

Putin witnesses the EU brand of peoples democracy ever shifting east, up to the Russian boarder.

Putin desperation will lead to more recklessness irrational behaviour, a nuclear arsenal at his finger tips

Countries that attempt to undermine Russian sanction must be held accountable with additional punitive sanctions.

In the case of the Government of China cancellation of all china held debt.

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"Smart", "Genius", "Savvy", "Wonderful"....sure sounds like pretty strong "backing and support" to me....

Not unless they specifically say the words.

I guess you didn't open the link - these were Trump's exact words quoted from "Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" where he was being interviewed....

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-ukraine-invasion-justification-genius-savvy-2022-2

Again, show a quote where any Republican said that they outright support a full on invasion of Ukraine. Try it. You know you absolutely can’t.

Can't? I already did - so once again - explain how its "wonderful" for Russia to invade Ukraine...

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Usual posters still talking about Trump repetitively and obsessively?

Biden and the Democrats control all the US government what that gonna do about this?

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Trump thinks he’s doing great.

And still zero evidence of a full-hearted and endorsement support for a full invasion of Ukraine.

Sorry I can’t resist pointing out that now you are whining

You can point out whatever you want. No whining, that’s like me saying you’re a Trump supporter.

Which is exactly what putin wants, thanks for showing your support for putin, yet again!!!

I never did, but if I did, I would gladly say it. What I do support is America and American isolationism. Quote that one for the archives

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President Biden is sitting in the big chair.

In a healthy democracy the President will be bombarded with opinions and opposing views.

That is an essential element, challenge, debate openly.

The alternative is Putin's Russia, opponents are poisoned, imprisoned, or simply executed.

Neighbouring ex-soviet countries are simply invaded forced back into line and the dissenters lined up and shot. 

Freedom, democracy is a anthemia to Putin, the very thought disappearing under a tank.

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Donald Trump left the build some time back. I doubt he will return age catches up.

Both for Joe Biden and Donald Trump. No reason shy away from the fact, no ignominy in accepting the facts if life.

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President Joe Biden on Tuesday pledged that his administration is using "every tool at our disposal" to limit the effect on gas prices in the US of sanctions he announced against Russia, acknowledging that Americans will likely see rising prices at the pump in the coming months.

So the foreign policy decisions of a President DO have an impact on gas prices and Biden DOES have the ability (and tools at his disposal!!??) to impact gas prices? interesting.

Wait until people find out how much fertilizer we import from Russia. Food prices, sky high too.

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Trump is absolutely right. Putin comes out on top of this in the end.

He plays the peacekeeper. The US sits by idly watching it all play out.

Brilliant.

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All Biden is left with is this as he got totally outplayed by Putin.

President Biden acknowledges US gas prices may keep rising due to his sanctions:

"Defending freedom will have costs for us as well, and here at home. We need to be honest about that."

So the American people need to suffer more so that Biden can appear to have "done something" to support Ukraine.

What if we dont care about Ukraine and want Biden to focus on defending the stolen freedom in Canada instead? What if we dont care about the Ukraine border and want Biden to focus on the Mexican one?

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