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It’s time for NATO to bloody Russia’s nose and bomb some of its artillery positions within Ukraine that are firing indiscriminately on citizens. The nuclear option remains an existential threat for everyone as Russia knows full well Moscow would be dust in seconds too.

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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine entered its sixth day

Waiting for the pro-Putin/Russia Trump folks to once agani. blame the media for people being forced to flee their homes (see accompanying photo above) and blame the media for making Putin/Russia look bad, saying once again US/UK/NATO have done worse things in an attempt to explain away the horror their idol Putin has created. 

Then follow that up with their snarky ‘Putin-bad’, similar to how they used to say ‘Orange-man bad’ in defense of Trump, another of their idols.Indeed the images and videos shown by many media outlets are heartbreaking and do not portray Putin and fascism in a very positive light, at least for reasonable people, but I have trouble believing the pictures have been photo-shopped or are malicious deep fakes, and the videos of Trump telling his fellow far right billionaires that Putin was s’mart’ because he’ll only pay a few dollars in sanctions and then be able to own a country, showing, as expected, zero regard for the millions of people harmed by a fellow ‘smart’ lying billionaire thug.It’s not that the media is showing Putin and his fascist forces are bad, it’s that Putin and his fascist forces are actually bad, and so are people like Trump who have said Putin is ‘smart’.

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I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

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@simian

I agree. It’s time to call Putin’s bluff. Especially if reports of Belarusian military having entered Ukraine are true

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I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

I'm not a field grade military officer, but I wonder whether the brass think Putin is a madman, or as some of his fan boys say a 'strong' man, because he has a huge nuclear arsenal at his disposal, and the Ukrainians and NATO might believe any more punches to Putin's nose might make the madman ramp things up to nuke level, then Putin's fanboys can say, see I told you he was 'strong', or at least they could say that if they hadn't been turned to dust. The world is dealing with a madman, and the global far rightists continue to back him. But I have never heard the word 'compassionate' used to describe any in the far right. I have however heard 'sub-human' and 'Neanderthal' used to describe many of them.

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It’s time for NATO to bloody Russia’s nose and bomb some of its artillery positions within Ukraine that are firing indiscriminately on citizens. The nuclear option remains an existential threat for everyone as Russia knows full well Moscow would be dust in seconds too.

Mr. Putin has made it exceedingly clear to all but those who refuse to see what is right directly in front of them that he is prepared to use nuclear weapons against NATO or any other entity that interferes with the invasion of Ukraine. The problem for NATO is that once Russian pacifies Ukraine he will not stop there. Fiona Hill in a recent interview, comparing today to the lead up to WWI and WWII says we are already in WWIII. I hope she is wrong but she is the author of one of the best biographies of Vladimir Putin and has made a career studying Russia for various US intelligence agencies.

Western governments need to engage in a serious discussion of what could happen and how to deal with it. There needs to be an acknowledgement that any level of business dealings with Russia is financing Russian aggression. That means the west and every other nation needs to stop buying anything from Russia. Yes, easier said than done but that has to happen. And the west many need to steel themselves for the eventuality of combat with the Russians. But understand that the minute the US and NATO do so there is a high risk of an immediate nuclear response from the Russians.

During the Cold War we always figured the Soviets would not go nuclear right out of the gate if they thought they could take Europe using conventional arms. The long held theory was the Russians would race across Europe to the Atlantic before the US could reinforce Europe and present the US and UK with a fait accompli daring them to go nuclear in response. The US by comparison thought they could reinforce Europe fast enough to stop a Russian advance, a response exercised every year with the big REFORGER exercise while attriting their nuclear arsenal with conventional weapons delivered by stealth aircraft the Russians would be unable to engage and leave the Russians to face defeat in Europe and not enough of a nuclear arsenal left to make a serious threat against the west. We all figured the Russian leaders weren't crazy or suicidal and would make rational decisions. But this current Russian leader appears intent to use nuclear weapons right out of the gate if anyone challenges his hegemony, risks be darned.

There are some business and economic types who think the current level of sanctions are going to make it impossible for Mr. Putin to govern the Russian people within a month's time. I hope they are right. I also hope there are some sane people in Russia's military who are not in such a hurry to engage anybody in nuclear war and are in a position to prevent it.

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I'm not a field grade military officer, but I wonder whether the brass think Putin is a madman,

I think his senior military officers and diplomats were surprised to be given the order to invade Ukraine. You can tell from the conduct of the invasion so far that they were utterly unprepared to move. There have been squads and platoons of Russian infantry surrendering to Ukrainian forces who claim nobody told them they were headed into combat and were not prepared to kill people or risk being killed. Their equipment and troops are backed up for 45 km on Ukrainian roads leading into Kyiv much like the confused traffic jams leading into Grozny that led to so much grief for the Red Army at the hands of Chechen fighters. This is an army that wasn't really prepared to fight a war led by officers who thought the mobilization was a big bluff like last year when they did the same thing, only to stand down after making a bunch of noise. Now they have angered Mr. Putin immensely with their lackluster performance. However, study the Chechen war and you see the model for this one. Roll in the possibility of tactical nuclear weapons because Mr. Putin is not going to go down to defeat leaving weapons on the table unused. These are grim times indeed.

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For all those people that said that an encroaching NATO was the reason for the attack, some new insight to Putin's imperialistic intentions has come to light that debunks that theory.

A piece was accidentally published by Russia's propaganda arm and then quickly deleted. It talks about a united Russia with Ukraine and Belarus as part of Russia again.

Check it out a translated version here:

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/

These invasions are purely Putin's imperialistic land grabs.

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I'm not a field grade military officer, but I wonder whether the brass think Putin is a madman, or as some of his fan boys say a 'strong' man,

Saying that Putin is Strong man doesn’t equal support. It just means the individual is a dangerous and powerful leader, now none of us including and especially the left cannot unequivocally make statements that people that make factual comments about any leader supports them or their illegal and inhumane invasions of any sovereign nation.

because he has a huge nuclear arsenal at his disposal, and the Ukrainians and NATO might believe any more punches to Putin's nose might make the madman ramp things up to nuke level,

The way the war is going, Putin is becoming more unstable with each passing day and he’s already switching tactics from attacking military installations to going after civilians.

then Putin's fanboys can say, see I told you he was 'strong',

He is, that’s a matter of fact. The man has thought about pretty much everything and while the invasion is slowing down because lack of food and fuel, the objective is still on and as we speak there is a 49 mile tank convoy on its way to Kyiv and it’s a very bad and ominous sign as to what’s going to come.

or at least they could say that if they hadn't been turned to dust. The world is dealing with a madman, and the global far rightists continue to back him.

No, we back Ukraine, all of us, we do feel the worst is yet to come. We also want Biden to increase oil production in the US and cut all oil flow to Russia.

But I have never heard the word 'compassionate' used to describe any in the far right. I have however heard 'sub-human' and 'Neanderthal' used to describe many of them.

Then you are reading the wrong news outlets, seriously. Increase fracking and oil production in the US and out the brakes on this guy. That will definitely come up in the GOP response to Biden’s SOTU speech.

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Yet all Western countries are watching them invading their buddy's country, and nobody dares do anything to stop them

Heh, then why are your oligarchs whining about their wealth disappearing hmmm?

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Mr. Putin has made it exceedingly clear to all but those who refuse to see what is right directly in front of them that he is prepared to use nuclear weapons against NATO or any other entity that interferes with the invasion of Ukraine. 

Yep. I’m still kind of hoping there are some in his inner circle who don’t want to be wiped off the face of the earth.

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Thermobaric weapon bigger than a MOAB used on Kharkiv airbase. Russia said theirs were 5X what the United States has, and it sorta looks like it. Airbase obviously no longer in use. Looking at the time it took for the shock wave to dissipate, this has a kill diameter just short of a mile across, probably about a 700 meter kill radius. Nasty. The camera was at about 7000 feet distance, the kill radius was probably about 2300 feet.

What are thermobaric vacuum bombs? Russia accused of using weapon against Ukraine

https://nypost.com/2022/03/01/what-are-thermobaric-bombs-russia-accused-of-using-weapon-against-ukraine/

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Because most of Ukraine's 900,000 strong regular army is confined to barracks and are not openly engaging Russian forces.

Most of the fighting is between the Russian army and the extremist Azov Battalion, which is essentially a private army.

Ukraine's top military generals are quietly siding with Russia and there is a huge rift in Ukraine's leadership.

Everything you and the various other pro-Putin, pro-Russian supporters have been claiming has been wrong all along, and this is no different.

Absolute rubbish to claim it is only a handful of "extremists" who are fighting on the Ukraine side. The Ukrainians are unified and dug in fighting as bravely as they can for THEIR land against a much bigger military.

Images and reports have come in overnight of the Russian military having bombed and destroyed a WW2 Jewish memorial in Kyiv, for which Israel has strongly condemned.

Fascist Russia is the invader, and acting like the despicable, sick state that it is. They have seriously underestimated the resolve of Ukrainians in defending THEIR nation.

Fascist Russia may win these short battles, but they will never win the war.

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Something that surprised me greatly is that as you read of this or that NATO member giving Ukraine 400 or 500 anti tank rockets or a similar number of Stinger missiles, Germany to their credit is giving them 1000 Javelins and 500 Stingers, neutral Sweden decided to donate a breathtaking 5000 of their new anti-tank rocket to the Ukrainians. Poland may give Ukraine some combat jets too, probably their Russian made models the Ukrainian pilots already know.

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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine entered its sixth day on Tuesday, with a huge convoy of Russian tanks and armored vehicles on a road to the capital, Kyiv, and fighting intensifying there and in other big cities.

Faced with some opposition, Putin is doubling down. I hope there can be an end to the escalation and a drawing down.

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So much for Putin’s plan to take the country in 48 hours.

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Didn't the Russians proclaim that they were peace-keepers and freedom fighters? If this is their idea of fighting for peace and freedom, I'd hate to see what their idea of fighting for conquest is.

Based on their actions up to now, the Russians are murderous war criminals and they deserve everything they've got coming to them. I hope it really hurts . . . a lot!

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Not reported this way but I know it is true and will say why: The EU/NATO is canceling all promises of giving Ukraine fighter jets. This is being whispered and I think it will be reality. REASON: Russia is in fact kicking *** so badly that the people providing the jets know those jets will be marshmallows dropped in a fire. Why waste them?

EU's Ukraine Fighter Jet Promise Falling Apart as Russia Advances

https://www.newsweek.com/eu-ukraine-fighter-jet-promise-falling-apart-russia-advances-slovakia-poland-bulgaria-1683588

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The Avenger: fake news.

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JeffLeeToday  07:12 am JST

I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

The Ukrainian military (backed up by US intel) worry that if they take out the convoy, Putin will retaliate with aerial bombing and raise Kyiv to the ground.

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Isn't it about time for something similar to the "Berlin Airlift"? Except it could be called the great "Kiev Airlift".

Anyway, some kind of quick and direct way of supplying those brave Ukrainians should at least be attempted.

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Again, Putin killing innocent civilian to achieve his goals, did it in Syria, Georgia, Chechnya, Romania and now Ukraine, the world has looked on and used the excuse that Russia is a nuclear power and we do not wish to risk an all out war and that is exactly why Putin has become what he is, twice in the past weeks he used the Nuclear card and threaten the world to accomplish his mission.

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Increase fracking and oil production in the US and out the brakes on this guy.

As farmers across North Dakota what fracking has done to their wells, and the destruction caused when the sludge ponds either overflow or their poorly made dams break and flood their grazing and farm lands. Fracking is not all upsides. Farmers suffer. Food vs oil. Not so simple or black and white. Nothing is.

There are numerous reputable studies on this matter. Here is just one.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160427150617.htm

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I should have said "ask, not "as" at the beginning of my post above. Sorry

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I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

The simplest answer- there is likely no 40 mile convoy out in the open to shell. Can’t shell ghosts (of Kiev).

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We have been stupid. We blame China but we as well as Europe wanted cheaper products faster product turnouts. People got too greedy and put more money and incentives in China’s pocket, that was stupid and we need to change that and fast.

Please explain how your above diversion somehow refutes my statement that Mr. Trump said that Vladimir Putin is smart and the US is stupid? Mr. Trump has sided with Mr. Putin many times in the past and publicly expressed his admiration for him. Now many others in the modern day Republican Party and among other conservative groups express an admiration for Vladimir Putin and a disdain for the US. It is right in front of everyone to see regardless of your diversions or denials.

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Food supplies running out in Kyiv with empty shelves and huge queues at shops

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/01/ukraine-war-kyiv-facing-food-shortages-with-empty-shelves-in-shops-16192930/

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Sean Penn is walking to the Polish border. Documentary over.

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As the war goes on, Putin will lose. Already, there have been cases of young Russian soldiers who were fooled into this war, losing morale and giving up. They were led into thinking that they were merely training, but suddenly ordered to invade Ukraine. As the days go by, I'm sure more soldiers will be left wondering what they are fighting for and would just want to go home to their families.

Also, it's good to hear the number of foreign volunteer fighters who are starting to go into Ukraine. Maybe that is one way to get more help to the Ukrainians. Send in soldiers from other countries under the guise as volunteers to help fight this war.

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Please explain how your above diversion somehow refutes my statement that Mr. Trump said that Vladimir Putin is smart and the US is stupid?

This has been taken out of context and abused. Watch the video: Trump was being critical of stupid leadership of the US. He was saying their poor statesmanship is why Putin is smart. He was being self-critical of his own government more than he was buttering Putin up. And then you add that to the time when Trump criticized Europe—especially Germany—for the pipeline deal they made with Russia which put Germany dependent on Russia for70% of its gas; and how Europe wasn’t contributing enough monetarily to nato whose purpose is to protect Europe from Russia. But remember when people threw a tantrum and called Trump a big ol’ meanie? Europe gave control to Russia, and now we have spineless leadership in Washington DC. And here we are watching a war unfold.

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But Mr. Noidall, you still didn’t address this:

Please explain how your above diversion somehow refutes my statement that Mr. Trump said that Vladimir Putin is smart and the US is stupid?

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So do you agree with trump that Putin is worthy of praise?

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Readers, Trump is not relevant to this discussion. Please stay on topic.

I'm sure certain people will pop up to say that it's all justified because of 'denazification of Ukraine'.

[Russian tv] shows had gone all-in on promoting “denazification”, a propaganda term that Putin has used to signify that Russian authorities plan to hold some kind of purge if they achieve their goals.

It has also become a kind of informal slogan for the war. Alexander Kots, a pro-Kremlin journalist, used the term as he described Tuesday evening’s missile strike as part of the “denazification of Ukrainian television” on his Telegram channel.

And a former diplomat who sent a Guardian journalist a long report on alleged Ukrainian war crimes as Russian forces bombed Kharkiv appeared to make reference to the term as justification for strikes against residential districts. “And what if Nazis have hidden in the population centres?” he wrote.

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No, EU countries aren’t sending fighter jets to Ukraine

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Tuesday that European Union members will not lend fighter jets to the war in Ukraine, after days of mixed messages from officials across Europe.

https://news.yahoo.com/no-eu-countries-aren-t-233404318.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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The simplest answer- there is likely no 40 mile convoy out in the open to shell. Can’t shell ghosts (of Kiev).

40 km not 40 miles and there is no shortage of aerial imagery of this convoy on a road leading to Kiev. This is normal Red Army stuff. There was the same situation on four roads leading into Grozny.

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Not reported this way but I know it is true and will say why: The EU/NATO is canceling all promises of giving Ukraine fighter jets. This is being whispered and I think it will be reality. REASON: Russia is in fact kicking *** so badly that the people providing the jets know those jets will be marshmallows dropped in a fire. Why waste them?

Ukraine doesn't need fighter jets, they would be totally useless to them so I don't think there was ever a serious plan to send them once the fighting started.

They need anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile systems, which are way harder for the Russians to counter and can do way more damage. It makes sense for NATO to be focusing on providing those.

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The 40 km convoy isn't constant. There are many breaks in it and most of the vehicles are trucks with many breaking down. Lada's?

It is not, but it is not stopping the assault and this has resolved in Putin pushing his forces harder and he’s changing his overall military strategy and is starting to use more lethal weapons as well as targeting civilians and historical sites. So the guy is nowhere near defeated, quite the opposite.

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It’s time for NATO to bloody Russia’s nose and bomb some of its artillery positions within Ukraine that are firing indiscriminately on citizens. The nuclear option remains an existential threat for everyone as Russia knows full well Moscow would be dust in seconds too."

You want to widen and escalate the conflict by the look of it, if NATO gets directly involved and " bomb some of Russian artillery" as you say Putin who seems to be increasingly furious and irrational will lash out. Think about what you write, Putin is not Saddam and Russia has some of the most terrifying weapons on earth ( even without going full nuclear ). Escalating the conflict is the worst thing to do , Ukraine and Russian delegations need to meet again asap to work out a compromise / solution to ceasefire.

There are some business and economic types who think the current level of sanctions are going to make it impossible for Mr. Putin to govern the Russian people within a month's time. I hope they are right. I also hope there are some sane people in Russia's military who are not in such a hurry to engage anybody in nuclear war and are in a position to prevent it."

Agreed. Hopefully Russian top brass would not allow Putin to press that button.

Poland may give Ukraine some combat jets too, probably their Russian made models the Ukrainian pilots already know."

Indeed. It was reported in certain European press that these would most likely be MIG 29 fighters ( Polish & ex Czech air force jets on the ground in Poland as you say ) as these are planes Ukrainian pilots are familiar with and would be able to put into use almost immediately.

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I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

My amateur armchair general opinion:

The Ukrainians are probably trying to harass the convoy, but they can't attack something that is 40km long in its entirety. Doing so would require putting thousands of their troops out in the open to launch the attack, which would make them extremely vulnerable to Russian airstrikes. Artillery wouldn't really be effective since the convoy is so stretched out, its not a concentrated target where they can just train all their guns on the same area. Also they'd be at high risk of losing whatever artillery they did deploy.

Also bear in mind that the Ukrainian army is fighting on multiple fronts right now so its not like they have a bunch of soldiers to spare. I'm guessing at this point they are marshalling them for the defence of Kiev, which makes sense. Fighting those vehicles in open terrain now would play to Russian advantages. Waiting until they try storming Kiev would allow the Ukrainians to engage them in an environment more to their advantage.

If the US was involved in this war with its airpower, that convoy would be toast in about 5 minutes. But Ukraine unfortunately doesn't have that advantage.

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No one actually knows what Pootin's strategy is or what his plans are.

We kind of do. To the large extent we know that the man has not unleashed his most lethal forces yet or his special ops, that’s coming once everything is properly assessed

Reports he will also invade Moldova. He spent two years planning his war and invasion according to a leaked document. Two years lying to the west.

probably

Pootin can win the battles but can never win the war.

Not so sure. Unless the West deals with him militarily, he will win eventually. So it’s up to the west to decide what they want and what outcome they really want to see.

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Hopefully Russian top brass would not allow Putin to press that button.

Russian top brass need to remove Putin from leadership and end this war.

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Escalating the conflict is the worst thing to do , Ukraine and Russian delegations need to meet again asap to work out a compromise / solution to ceasefire.

Short of the whole of NATO threatening immediate nuclear obliteration a negotiated settlement is not possible. Even that may not dissuade him. You have to see Ukraine and Russia as Vladimir Putin sees it. He has often spoken of Russky Mir" or a Russian World that encompasses the old Russian Empire before the USSR, which he feels let parts of what should be rightfully part of Russia slip away. He also says in his speeches and comments to world leaders that borders are not permanent. In his mind Ukraine is integral to that, as are the Central Asian republics, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and the Baltic states. He likes to say the Russian people are one people, or "yedinyi narod" and talks about regathering them as one nation. He wants to recreate the what he sees as the old Russian Imperium. Mr. Putin is intent on taking Ukraine and my fear is it will end up like Chechnya, a bloodbath with its cities left in ruins. Look at some before and after photos of Grozny to see what I mean. He may not stop with the Ukraine either and he is stirring the pot in Bosnia and Croatia as well.

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The outcome of this is zilch.

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Ukraine doesn't need fighter jets, they would be totally useless to them 

No sir, not true. Effective air power is a game changer for Ukraine forces. The Russians have not been able to establish air superiority over Ukraine and that has greatly inhibited the progress of their ground forces. The Russian air force is not able to provide their ground forces with close air support due to the effectiveness so far of the Ukrainian Air Force. Maintaining that capability is critical to them, and to the west as a whole. Those Stingers are short range. NATO faced thousands of roughly analogous MANPADS over Serbia in 1999. It forced NATO air power to remain above 11,000 feet but with precision guided munitions even high flying B-1Bs and B-52s can provide close air support. But if you enemy has fighters and well trained pilots who know how to fight you are not going to get away with that. Now you have a "non-permissive environment" and close air support becomes exceedingly difficult.

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The outcome of this is zilch.

It's already had an impact. Just ask the oligarchs in Russia.

Oh wait, you don't have to ask, they're screaming it out loud for the world to hear already! This is hurting them bad.

Talk about schadenfreude.

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40 mile convoy- supposedly.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083733700/russias-40-mile-convoy-has-stalled-on-its-way-to-kyiv-a-u-s-official-says

https://time.com/6152916/russia-convoy-kyiv/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-40-mile-convoy/

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I would like to see a volunteer force of pilots and tactical jets like F-16C/D organized along the lines of the old Flying Tigers. Three dozen F-16s with NATO trained pilots flying under the Ukraine flag but supported clandestinely by western nations would turn the tables. That 40km convoy outside Kyiv would not last long.

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America had to buy Russian oil because of the type and not available there, after Trump banned the import of the same type of oil from Venezuela

So let’s see if I can make that right with the State of the Union speech, he has the power to do that and let’s see if he will.

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Russia and Belorussia made a big mistake by invading an independent and souverain country and Russia should have only kept eventually with the pro Russian areas. The leaders are over.

However, I do not see for the time being civilian targets being clearly destroyed with that only purpose. Targets are military and administrative. A few residential buildings have unfortunately been hit by lost missiles and some lives lost. We also saw Russian tanks stopping and waiting in front of civilians. Some soldiers do not want to fight.

This is far from the deluge of bombs that the U.S. sent to Irak in 2003.

Russia could do the same if wanted. There is no doubt that Russia can take Kiev and the main cities. It is just a question on how much casualties to avoid.

For the time being, I keep neutral and I do not support any of the countries because I do not know the true visage of Ukraine and it’s politicians too though the president seems to really be a sincere guy and a fighter for his land. But he plays a lot with the emotion to gain a lot from Europe, starting by entering the EU. I wonder why he called after only 1 day of Russian advance to all civilians to fight and also European fighters to come. What’s going on with the army of Ukraine? How many militaries, how much power and capabilities? Nothing is mentioned by the media. And it has been six months Russian army was building up. What did Ukraine during that time.

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I also hope NATO has a rush program to integrate NATO standard weapons on Ukraine's Russian made aircraft. Some NATO nations may have already done this to facilitate the continued use of their Russian made aircraft from their Warsaw Pact days. Russia isn't going to provide Ukraine with replacements as they expend weapons in combat so their aircraft need to be able to use NATO standard weapons which NATO nations can resupply them.

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America's actions in Iraq are indefensible. Some of us have been calling out America for their Ukraine-like invasion for two decades now. But let's remember, while that was two decades ago, Russia is repeating this indefensible act right now. It's very clear that the people bringing up Iraq are desperate not to talk about Putin and his invasion of Ukraine because they realize it's indefensible. So being unable to defend it, they try to divert attention.

It's part of a three pronged misinformation campaign:

• Make up lies in defense to the accusations

• Attack the speaker of the accusations to discredit them

• Attack a third party who has also done the same wrong thing to divert attention.

As you can see, the people going on about Iraq are exercising the third prong of the disinformation campaign.

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Ukraine has requested the help of IT security people worldwide to help fight against the Russians. Seems they received that help and about 50 Russian Govt and pro-Russian websites have been taken offline. Before they went down, their top pages were full of pro-Ukrainian content.

Some of the sites impacted:

sberbank.ru

vsrf.ru

scrf.gov.ru

kremlin.ru

radiobelarus.by

rec.gov.by

sb.by

belarus.by

belta.by

tvr.by

Russia started blocking all non-Russian IPs access to bring those sites back up. Battery powered vehicle charging stations in Russia were disabled and had their messages changed to ... the quote will get this post removed here ... read the last link below.

ICANN has been asked to block all .ru DNS. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/01/ukraine_icann_domains/

It has been a busy few days, not just for people in Ukraine.

Read more https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/02/after-ukraine-recruits-an-it-army-dozens-of-russian-sites-go-dark/

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No sir, not true. Effective air power is a game changer for Ukraine forces. The Russians have not been able to establish air superiority over Ukraine and that has greatly inhibited the progress of their ground forces. The Russian air force is not able to provide their ground forces with close air support due to the effectiveness so far of the Ukrainian Air Force. Maintaining that capability is critical to them, and to the west as a whole. Those Stingers are short range. NATO faced thousands of roughly analogous MANPADS over Serbia in 1999. It forced NATO air power to remain above 11,000 feet but with precision guided munitions even high flying B-1Bs and B-52s can provide close air support. But if you enemy has fighters and well trained pilots who know how to fight you are not going to get away with that. Now you have a "non-permissive environment" and close air support becomes exceedingly difficult.

Its very much true. I'm by no means a military expert, but I am a former soldier and do have a bit of knowledge on how these things work and why fighter jets for Ukraine is a stupid idea.

Additional fighter jets will be absolutely useless to Ukraine right now for the following reasons.

1) It takes weeks to train pilots to use a new fighter, Ukrainian pilots know how to fly Soviet style aircraft but not NATO ones. Even with a crash course you would have to bring Ukrainian pilots into a NATO country, train them in a hurry, and then send them back, by which time it will be too late for them to make any difference.

2) It makes zero sense from a cost-benefit perspective. Fighter aircraft cost 10s of millions of dollars. For the cost a single fighter jet you could provide hundreds of javelins or stingers which could inflict much greater damage and are ready to use right away.

3) Fighter jets require a huge amount of infrastructure to support their operations and that infrastructure is very difficult to provide and easy to destroy. They need a huge amount of maintenance every time they fly and that has to be provided by trained crews, which Ukraine does not have ready to go and would take weeks to train. They also need large runways, which will be very easy for the Russians to simply drop bombs on and make unusable when they deploy their air force in full, which they certainly would do the second Ukraine got any new fighter jets. Plus the jets are extremely vulnerable on the ground (which is where they will be most of the time) and will not be hard for the Russians to take out with guided missiles, which they have.

4) The Kosovo example proves the exact opposite of what you are arguing. NATO had protected bases they could fly their fighters from in countries like Italy, where their infrastructure (runways, maintenance, fuel and ammo depots, etc) were fully secure from attack. Ukraine would not be able to do that - all their bases would be in Ukraine itself where the fighting is happening and, as fixed targets, would be very easy for the Russians to take out, making the tactical advantages of the fighters themselves irrelevant since they wouldn't be able to get them into the air in the first place. The Serbs in 1999 actually did have some advanced Russian fighter aircraft at their disposal in that conflict, but they were totally useless since the Americans could simply bomb their runways and destroy them on the ground (same in Iraq with the Iraqi air force). The balance of forces between Ukraine and Russia isn't as lopsided as it was with NATO against Serbia, but its still lopsided enough that the Russians would be able to eliminate the Ukrainian air infrastructure quite easily.

Its just a dead end idea.

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Well, love it or hate it. Like marmite.

Russia is not Iraq, Syria, or Venezuela!

Russia is the World's largest gas producer, has the World's biggest gas reserves; Russia is one of the World's largest oil producers too.

With "Uncle" Putin threatening to "weaponise" oil and gas,( in retaliation for Western sanctions), experts (proper) are predicting that one barrel of oil will hit $150 pretty soon.

Things are about to get juicier.

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if you know then enlighten us all.

Judging by this madman’s actions is telling.

Pootin can take Ukraine but he'll never take the hearts and minds of the Ukrainians.

Very true, but if he takes it like he did with Crimea and Belarus you will see ongoing flare ups of insurgencies all over that country.

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Targets are military and administrative. A few residential buildings have unfortunately been hit by lost missiles and some lives lost. We also saw Russian tanks stopping and waiting in front of civilians. Some soldiers do not want to fight."*

Indeed quite a number of Russian soldiers do not want to be in Ukraine attacking their fellow Slavs.

Some reports in Ukranian press today report that

“morale is flagging” in some of the Russian units. Acts of vandalism include puncturing vehicle gas tanks, presumably so the soldiers can avoid being transported into combat"

and

Russian troops in Crimea refuse to take part in Ukraine invasion. According to the Center for Defense Strategies, citing their sources among the marine personnel in Crimea, members of Russia’s 810th Detached Marine Brigade are in a “demoralized state” and have refused to take part in the conflict

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This is also quite interesting and indicative of a number of Russian military / security personnel that do not support Putin,s invasion if true -

Ukraine has reportedly “neutralised” a Russian plot to assassinate President Volodymyr Zelensky – thanks to leaked intelligence from the Russians themselves.

Intelligence from Russian security forces sympathetic to Ukraine’s cause claims that two elite death squads had been sent to take out the leader, but had failed in their mission. A report in The New Voice of Ukraine quoted Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council secretary Oleksiy Danilov as saying that Russian sources passed information to Kyiv to assist authorities in finding the would-be assassins."

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And let's not forget the precarious position of the little country called Moldova on the border of Ukraine and Romania, a juicy chunk of real-estate once part of the old Soviet Empire and now a tempting low hanging plum Putin will try to pluck to put in his half-baked "Greater Russia" pie.

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biggest ground war in Europe since World War II 

Kosovo staring in disbelief

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Kosovo staring in disbelief

In terms of scale this is much much bigger than the Kosovo war. Kosovo has a population under 2 million, Ukraine is over 44 million. That proportional difference is unfortunately likely to be replicated in the human cost - the number of refugees, casualties and combatants involved are almost certain to end up being much much higher in Ukraine.

Also, the war in Kosovo in those terms wasn't even the biggest war in Europe in the 1990s, the civil war in Bosnia in the early 90s was much more devastating in terms of its human cost (not intending to minimize the suffering in Kosovo).

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Biden says U.S. to ban Russian flights from American airspace

https://www.metro.us/biden-says-u-s-to-2/

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When the Swiss sanction you, you should pay attention ... President Putin.

Switzerland has announced sanctions on Russia follow the EU.

Ref: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/neutral-swiss-adopt-sanctions-against-russia-2022-02-28/

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I don't understand why the Ukranian army isn't shelling that huge convoy, which out in the open.

They probably donot have that capability, nato could though do another highway 80 on this convoy, but will not be able to handle the response....

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I would like to see a volunteer force of pilots and tactical jets like F-16C/D organized along the lines of the old Flying Tigers. Three dozen F-16s with NATO trained pilots flying under the Ukraine flag but supported clandestinely by western nations would turn the tables

And why clandestinely and why not openly.. one way this could work is nato show casing it's full strength with Biden threatening to unleash everything in his arsenal...that would cause putin to thing again.. but none of this is going to happen..Ukraine may get some help from some nato members..and that's about it.

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Though it makes me wonder what would cause a smaller country to pick a fight with their powerful neighbour? West Ukrainians do not benefit from being used to advance NATO's bellicose agenda either if it means billions of dollars siphoned off from tax funds by the regime in charge.

What has Ukraine done to pick a fight with Russia. This sounds like Russian propaganda.

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Surrendering in hordes. Yeah, sure.

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Even if Ukraine’s military does have a “Neo-Nazi” faction as some claim, it doesn’t justify the bombing of civilian centers.

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I think Western Europe should go in. America is lost, gone, done. Maybe a declaration from France and the UK to commit to not use nuclear weapons no matter what. Then just go in no matter what, we can't let this stand.

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That war is simply a humanitarian catastrophe. One side sacrifices thousands young unskilled soldiers for the first difficult terrain gains, the other side sends its civilians directly into the graves telling them not to flee but they would have quite a chance with self produced Molotov bottles which is of course nonsense.

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That war is simply a humanitarian catastrophe. One side sacrifices thousands young unskilled soldiers for the first difficult terrain gains, the other side sends its civilians directly into the graves telling them not to flee but they would have quite a chance with self produced Molotov bottles which is of course nonsense.

Yes, sadly many people are going to die. It didn't have to be this way.

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Russian forces escalate attacks on Ukraine's civilian areas

Ukraine citizens are willingly joining the resistance against Russian forces. Thousands returning from over seas and bringing what equipment they can with them, joining units the first come across. Women also are taking up arms to repel the Russian invading forces. As Putin see's this he expands his list of acceptable targets and pictures tell the truth.

More Civilians are being targeted and it will get worse. If the number of dead reaches a million NATO will have to fight. It will give a commitment of no nuclear weapons unless Russia uses them first.

This slowly unfolding tragedy will be picked apart by historians in the future but for right now, civilians must be protected at all costs. 44 million population is just too many to sacrifice or allow to be murdered.

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Boeing suspends parts, maintenance and support for Russian airlines

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-parts-maintenance-support-russian-airlines-2022-03-02/

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Ukraine’s Secret Weapon Against Russia: Turkish Drones

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-secret-weapon-against-russia-204032879.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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