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Russia tightens noose in Mariupol; Ukrainian refugees top 5 million

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Russia tightens noose in Mariupol

Brutal Russian war criminals just want to kill them easier. If they machine gun children in the streets imagine what they would do to soldiers better than they are.

Ukrainian refugees top 5 million

Putin is teaching yet another generation of people that Russia is not to be trusted and should be shunned.

Ukraine had a pre-war population of 44 million, and UNHCR says the conflict has displaced more than 7 million people within Ukraine along with the 5.03 million who had left as of Wednesday.

What will be the long term issues caused by so many entering other countries. Some of these countries are poor even before the influx of people from Ukraine.

It is going to be a difficult time for all.

https://www.unhcr.org/ukraine-emergency.html

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 try to threaten our country think twice,” the Russian leader said.

The 'our' from Putin means "mine" and maybe bits for some of my oligarchs. After all this has become a religious war, a modern era crusade being fought for Lord Putin in his attempt to reclaim lands that according to myths pushed by his propagandists that he himself seems to actually believe belonged to Russia. Putin's got his state religion backing him up. It's now the Russian 'race' (a subspecies of lower primates) against the world in Putin's quest to lead the largest empire ever, even if what he reclaims in his name is a toxic wasteland, one where the permafrost is melting, releasing a methane time bomb. Russian people and far right extremists backing him: your religious leader is deranged and is putting the world at risk.. The world does not need any more religions, especially one based on ramblings coming from the blue puffer coat wearing messiah-wanna-be.

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The saramat missile is a gift for NATO but the pentagon says it isn't worried.

That's just ridiculous.

Its a threat !

Send more armored vehicles for Putin to use as target practice.

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PT,until Ukraine launch a massive be attack at 50.236336,38.111 ,they will be at the mercy of Putin,this would set Putin military back 10 years

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It will take generations for Russia to get its lost prestige back.

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Kyo,armor vehicle beare death traps,like tanks,Most Japanese men's like you have not been in a conflict,with another man,that you can size up opposition to put a beat down own

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We are watching one man’s megalomania being inflicted not just on others but his own people. It’s another brutal embarrassing moment for Russia and humanity as a whole. Let’s hope NATO stands up and stops this inhumane madness.

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Putin should accept and acknowledge his defeat...and stop the needless killing of innocent women and children....

His assault on Ukraine failed, he's lost 20K troops, 15 generals/senior officers are dead, and his beloved flagship named after his capitol city was turned into a flaming hulk before sinking beneath the Black Sea waves...

But he won't stop - because his pride won't allow it....think about that, thousands of more innocent deaths just because this small, frightened man can't admit defeat...

His living in a manufactured, fantasy world where reality is suspended and his inability to acknowledge losing reminds me of someone else....someone who praises Putin as "smart and savvy"...

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 try to threaten our country think twice,” the Russian leader said.

Before Russia’s invasion, I’d not seen or heard once any country’s leader threaten Russia.

This again shows how delusional Putin is

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Super, most Russian never had nothing, but he'll in their life, going back 200 years, maybe Russia will perform the Butcher of Bucha opera at the Boshoi

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After speedy trials Putin & friends should be given their very own tightened Nuremberg noose in Kyiv, if not on Red Square, so that justice can be seen to be done. An unlikely scenario, granted, but this must be the dream of millions grieving and thirsting for revenge and justice on earth.

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Before Russia’s invasion, I’d not seen or heard once any country’s leader threaten Russia.

Biden threatened Russia nearly every day for around a month with his "tough guy" act.

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Blacklabel - Are you talking about when Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine? If so, I may have to give you that point.

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The Azovstal plant is a valid military target by the presence of sizeable Ukrainian forces. A presence of civilians there makes no difference to that.

If Ukrainian forces chose to fortify there, knowing that the location is used as a civilian shelter, then their are in fact using civilians as human shields. Using civilians to try to dissuade an enemy offensive.

And if civilians chose to go and hide there, together with the military.. well, that's not a very smart thing to do.

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Nothing like a hypersonic intercontinental nuclear tipped missile to ruin your day.

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Before Russia’s invasion, I’d not seen or heard once any country’s leader threaten Russia.

President 45 threatened to drop nuclear bombs on Red Square and suggested using US bombers with Chinese flags pasted on them. “Tough guy” act indeed.

If 45 is off topic he should stop blabbering about what he would do and what would/wouldn’t have happened with Russia if he hadn’t lost.

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Nothing like a hypersonic intercontinental nuclear tipped missile to ruin your day.

Kyo wa - you forgot to add "No iam not defending putin."

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President 45 threatened

Nope.

Yesterday the claim was he is on Russia team now it’s he threatened them? I can’t see the flipping for the flipping.

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Kyo,you Japanese should not wish nobody get nuked,since you were on the receiving end of being nuked

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Nope. 

Yesterday the claim was he is on Russia team now it’s he threatened them? I can’t see the flipping for the flipping.

Yep.

He is on record on any media platform you prefer making the threats. He called it “the N word” in an attempt to be cute. You must have heard about it.

He’s recorded on phone telling Golfer John Daly he would bomb Moscow.

Giuliani has been repeating the same story during recent guest appearances of 45 threatening to bomb Russian churches during a phone call to putin.

45 during a New Orleans rally in March suggested the US “bomb the s-“ out of Russia.

Tough guy act is nothing new, blaming Biden for this war is ridiculously out of touch.

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The steel works that the freedom fighters are holed up in are a prize for Russia, they don’t want to damage the factory too much. They want to use it in the future. The factory is the shield, not the civilians Russia couldn’t care less about them.

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He is on record on any media platform you prefer making the threats.

So now “45” (and 47) threatening Russia is……bad? That’s odd.

And after the invasion, not before as 46 did.

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The Azovstal plant is a valid military target 

!!!???

How so?

(when the sovereign country of Ukraine itself and the people who live within its borders cannot be deemed " a valid military target by any stretch of the imagination, or by international law, unless, of course, you are talking about a war of aggression, as defined by the precedent set by the Nazis at Nuremberg.)

This cruel war waged by Russian fascists cannot be justified on any grounds by anyone claiming to be a decent human being. Yes, it's that simple, no ifs or buts.

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The saramat missile is a gift for NATO but the pentagon says it isn't worried.

The US, UK and France have missiles with equivalent striking power. The launch of an ICBM or SLBM will be detected and and it's trajectory tracked long before its several warheads impact their targets, giving the target nation time to launch its counter strike well before the warheads hit.

However B-2s and the B-21, which is in testing now, can arrive over targets completely undetected and deliver conventional or nuclear ordnance with greater precision than the best ICBM. An enemy would have no time to launch a counterstrike as the first indication they were under attack would be warheads going off on their leadership, command and control architecture and on their missile silos.

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President 45 threatened to drop nuclear bombs on Red Square

Threatening and going through on action are two entirely different things.

and suggested using US bombers with Chinese flags pasted on them. “Tough guy” act indeed. 

You think Zelenskyy thinks of Biden as tough? Putin, China, Iran and the Saudis sure don’t.

If 45 is off topic he should stop blabbering about what he would do

No, he has every right as an American to criticize his government. A lot of people want to hear his opinion on the matter.

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Ukraine got a treason problem,all Ukrainian are not brave and noble, lots of them are flat out traitors,selling their soul to Putin, nobody in a sovereign state can enter in a confederation with an enemy like Russia and say they have a right to do it,even if undermine,your country

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Yep. 

He is on record on any media platform you prefer making the threats. He called it “the N word” in an attempt to be cute. You must have heard about it. 

On record? Doubt it.

He’s recorded on phone telling Golfer John Daly he would bomb Moscow. 

I see

How many times have our adversaries said they wanted to bomb the US?

Giuliani has been repeating the same story during recent guest appearances of 45 threatening to bomb Russian churches during a phone call to putin. 

45 during a New Orleans rally in March suggested the US “bomb the s-“ out of Russia. 

Tough guy act is nothing new, blaming Biden for this war is ridiculously out of touch.

The entire country blames Biden.

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2022/04/the-failure-and-motive-of-bidens-dribs-and-drabs-tactics-in-ukraine/

The bigger problem for the Dems and a few idiot Republicans is that, quite a few want to not only go to war, but some called for regime change in a roundabout way. That’s even scarier because these people are contemplating it, far worse than screaming phone threats.

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I seem to remember a couple of people mocking the US for "only sending blankets" a few months ago. Fast forward to an invasion and suddenly the narrative is "send my tax dollars back."

What will their position be in 6 months? Get involved or not? Who knows.

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Bass: some called for regime change

You called for US troops on the ground in Syria for a regime change.

Can you make up your mind about what you support?

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And after the invasion, not before as 46 did.

Phone call to Russia was during his term. He still boasts about it.

On record? Doubt it.

It’s a phone interview with Fox Business. Are you saying it was faked?

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I seem to remember a couple of people mocking the US for "only sending blankets"

Zelenskyy never forgot what Obama did and definitely didn’t do.

a few months ago. Fast forward to an invasion and suddenly the narrative is "send my tax dollars back."

So besides not listening to what Zelenskyy wants and asked for what are we doing or more importantly, what are the Europeans doing under NATO to stop (what it was created to do to stop Russia?) Putin isn’t slowing down.

What will their position be in 6 months? Get involved or not? Who knows.

Either go in or not, take on Putin or just talk about it.

Phone call to Russia was during his term. He still boasts about it. 

About the N-word specifically.

On record? Doubt it.

It’s a phone interview with Fox Business. Are you saying it was faked?

Funny, not even on the lib networks did they go around saying that one. This is exactly how gossip starts.

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You called for US troops on the ground in Syria for a regime change.

Not really, I was more for ending him. Sorry, if I didn’t properly clarified it.

Can you make up your mind about what you support?

I do. No ground troops, dispose of the leader, there.

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Bass: what are the Europeans doing under NATO

Do you still want the US to pull out of NATO or have you done a 180 on that, too?

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About the N-word specifically.

On record? Doubt it.

It’s a phone interview with Fox Business. Are you saying it was faked?

You do know 45 meant “nuclear” when he did his n-word skit, right?

How did you miss that? You really need to be better informed about things before responding.

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Do you still want the US to pull out of NATO or have you done a 180 on that, too?

I never liked NATO or the UN, I think they’re both useless having no teeth ineffective and cost taxpayers too much,so that should answer all of your questions.

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I do. No ground troops, dispose of the leader, there.

Can anyone with experience in the military tell me if this works?

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About the N-word specifically.

On record? Doubt it.

Hmmmm......

It was against this backdrop that Fox Business’ Stuart Varney asked the Republican again yesterday for what he’d do if he were still president.

*“I listen to [Vladimir Putin] constantly using the n word. That’s the n word, and he’s constantly using it: the nuclear word. And we never talk of, we say, ‘Oh, he’s a nuclear power.’ But we’re a greater nuclear power. We have the greatest submarines in the world, most powerful machines ever built. Most powerful, and they got built under me. Most powerful machines ever built, and nobody knows where they are. And you should say, *‘Look, if you mention that word one more time, we’re going to send them over, and we’ll be coasting back and forth up and down your coast.’”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-c1Me0Kezg&ab_channel=FoxBusiness

The exact quote is at 6:31 in the video...

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Bass: I never liked NATO

Surprising to hear you say that given the situation in front of us, but to each his own.

At this point I'm not sure if a politician, in the middle of a war in Europe, would get success with this platform.

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With global tensions running high, Russia reported the first successful test launch of a new type of intercontinental ballistic missile, the Sarmat.

Biden canceled scheduled tests of old ballistic missiles so as not to escalate tensions with Russia. Ironically, showing that weakness is the biggest escalation possible. Specifically, Russia will know they have gone too far only when they have gone too far.

It sounds like its time to stop worrying about offending the Russians and develop a defensive shield against ICBMs.

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It was against this backdrop that Fox Business’ Stuart Varney asked the Republican again yesterday 

Yet same as all your other recycled repetitive cut and pastes “yesterday” was probably months ago, amirite?

Phone call to Russia was during his term

so sometime in 2016-2020? Nothing to do with Ukraine invasion

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Look, if you mention that word one more time, we’re going to send them over, and we’ll be coasting back and forth up and down your coast.’”

thats great isn’t it? Odd comments to me mad about for someone you claimed for years is pro-Russia?

is Biden wrong now that Trump agrees with him that this is genocide?

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Can anyone with experience in the military tell me if this works?

Now ask yourself the bigger question, can someone in the White House give a clear indecisive answer on what we are doing, what our goals are and what our objectives are and are we all in and helping the Ukrainian or just sticking our toe in the water?

Surprising to hear you say that

No, I have been very clear about my dislike for both institutions

At this point I'm not sure if a politician, in the middle of a war in Europe, would get success with this platform.

Biden voted for the Iraq war so….

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*“I listen to [Vladimir Putin] constantly using the n word.That’s the n word, and he’s constantly using it: the nuclear word. And we never talk of, we say, ‘Oh, he’s a nuclear power.’ But we’re a greater nuclear power. We have the greatest submarines in the world, most powerful machines ever built. Most powerful, and they got built under me. Most powerful machines ever built, and nobody knows where they are. And you should say, *‘Look, if you mention that word one more time, we’re going to send them over, and we’ll be coasting back and forth up and down your coast.’”

as usual, the left want to disregard everything that Trump says and then hold choice of words when it’s some thing that they can clamor on in the hopes that they can make some salacious argument to Try and support the weak argument, every single time. Lol

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Now ask yourself the bigger question

even simply who has control of all these weapons and money that is being given?

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Biden canceled scheduled tests of old ballistic missiles so as not to escalate tensions with Russia.

The US cancelled that test worrying that the Russians would see the launch, interpret it as a nuclear attack regardless of anything we said publicly about it and launch their own counterstrike, with all the horrors that implies. A test event for stockpile reliability is not so critical you need to risk a possible nuclear war over it. Such tests can wait a bit. Consider that Russia had just raised the alert level very publicly on their nuclear forces and Mr. Putin had just made a veiled threat to use nuclear weapons against any nation that directly aided Ukraine. It was not a sign of weakness in any way but rather one of appropriate caution.

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Now ask yourself the bigger question, can someone in the White House give a clear indecisive answer on what we are doing, what our goals are and what our objectives are and are we all in and helping the Ukrainian or just sticking our toe in the water?

You are apparently not a poker player. Why should they? You never show all your cards. Let them keep Ivan guessing what might be next.

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The world owes Ukrainian nothing,but what they intend to give them , Ukrainian got an enemy within problem,that should address, before critizing others, especially the German,80 percent of Putin gas is shipped through Ukraine to Europe

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It sounds like its time to stop worrying about offending the Russians and develop a defensive shield against ICBMs.

Have you ever heard of this thing called Standard SM-3 Block II? Japan and the US are co-developing this missile and it has already knocked down an ICBM surrogate ( an expendable target missile that is essentially an unarmed ICBM ) in testing. It has truly long range. The intercepts are made in space before warheads and decoys can be deployed. This missile can be carried on ships, in Aegis Ashore and a shore based mobile launcher on a trailer is being developed so they can be made portable to defend more places, in particular Guam. They apparently will work with the Army's AN/TPX-2 radar system used with THAAD. It also can integrate with a Patriot battery and its radars. Lots of flexibility.

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even simply who has control of all these weapons and money that is being given?

Our allies in Ukraine, unless you know something we don't? If that's the case, no need to be coy about it, you can share the info. You are amongst friends! And remember to always show your work/sources/links/cites!

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even simply who has control of all these weapons and money that is being given?

The US Army doesn't track its own weapons in the field and you expect the Ukrainian Army to do so in the middle of an existential war for their nation's very survival? Right now it is highly unlikely anything the US gave Ukraine is going anyplace but a Ukrainian Army magazine or is being shot at a Russian armored vehicle or aircraft. The time to worry might be at the conclusion of the war or if a drawn out stalemate develops. But right now the Ukrainians need every weapon and re-load we can shovel their way to shoot at the Russians.

In the US Army if, say, a missile fails BIT (Built In Test) after mounting it on a helicopter or a TOW launcher for example, the missile is taken off and tossed in the dirt with the other missiles. They don't even bother to record what the defect was. When the next battalion arrives and takes over they see these dirty, mud encrusted missiles laying in the dirt and send them all back to the depot. A large proportion test good at the depot but the forces in the field don't track anything, no time. if it looks questionable send it back to the depot and let them figure it out. Nobody has time for that kind of detailed book keeping in the middle of a shooting war. It's a ridiculous expectation.

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Tortoise,The difference between a man a child,is the price of his toys,Putin toy boat got sunk,guess he has play with his rubby ducky,in the bath, Russian do have an inventory chips, in weapon they will have too used solid state circuits in their weapon Google Russian Microchip Shortage

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US Military expertise is so great! Just contemplate the significance of these two subsequent statements:

Former US commanding general of the United States Army Europe, Lieutenant General Ben Hodges said on Monday that Russians are about 10 days away from reaching the “culminating point” . Once they reach there, the US commander said, the Russian troops will be “forced to stop their assault on Ukraine due to a lack of resources”. According to Lt Gen Hodges, “Russians are about 10 days away from what is called the culminating point, when they just no longer have the ammunition nor the manpower to keep up their assault.”

Russia has shown no signs of halting its assault on Ukraine despite the sanctions being imposed on it by the Western countries. However, experts are of the opinion that Russian forces will soon run out of resources.

15 March 2022

It’s now 35 days later, more than three weeks after the Russians were supposed to 'run out of ammunition and manpower', according to US military experts.

While there are not official confirmations (that I know of) from the Russian military, it appears that Lavrov is the first, and so far only, Russian official who declared that the 2nd phase of the operation has begun. Truth be told, pretty much everybody else thinks likewise. Considering the intensity of Russian bombings and artillery strikes overnight, which were reported by numerous sources, it certainly appears reasonable to me to conclude that this 2nd phase has indeeed begun. For example, the Russian defense ministry reported on Tuesday morning that its troops had delivered artillery strikes at 1,260 Ukrainian military targets overnight, including 1,214 locations where Ukrainian troops amassed their forces.

How long this phase of the war will last is anybody’s guess. Optimists think a week, pessimists a month, but in reality nobody really knows because the outcome will be determined not by maneuver like during the first phase, but by logistics, specifically fuel and ammunition, in other words by mobility and firepower.

19 April 2022

So, it appears that the Russians might, just might, have some ammunition and manpower left, considering that they’re only now beginning the second phase of Operation Z. So this raises the obvious question: is there any reason to suspect that the NATO forces might be projecting a shortage of ammunition and manpower onto their enemies? Why on earth would they do that? Hmmmm...

Never, ever, listen to anyone the media anoints as an “expert”. Their expertise, such as it is, usually consists of their ability to repeat the media’s narrative with a straight face, no matter how obviously absurd it is.

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How you do work that out? NATO spends a massive amount on buying American weapons.

Good! Then they should get their money’s worth and go and use it.

NATO countries supported you after 9/11.

Because so many of their country men also died in the attacks. So they had just as much of a national interest invested in that as well, we don’t over here, this is really Europe fight.

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ESL Mundi - Are you still of the opinion that Russia is going to keep driving on to Portugal, or have you changed your mind on that now that you have seen their recent performance?

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Ego,we have enough weapon in the US stockpile,for a 100 years

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So you are saying NATO should attack Russia?

I said, it’s more their problem than ours.

The majority of those killed by 9/11 were Americans. America is part of NATO and the current Russian war also hurts the American economy. We helped America because we are your allies.

Yes, I understand and still. It’s Europe’s problem, they buy so much of a military hardware, then they should use it, we should give them logistics and some support, but ultimately they have to do 90% of the fighting

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And after the invasion, not before as 46 did.

Nope, clearly incorrect.

Yet same as all your other recycled repetitive cut and pastes “yesterday” was probably months ago, amirite? 

You must be confused.

Phone call to Russia was during his term

so sometime in 2016-2020? Nothing to do with Ukraine invasion

Nope again. And if it ‘s nothing to do with the Ukraine invasion why is he and his supporters still banging on about how it wouldn’t have happened under his watch?

You’re all over the place.

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Time for a no-fly zone enforced by America

NATO can call for one as well. Why won’t they,

and the other NATO countries and anti-missile attacks.

They should do what they need to do. Remember, they’re the ones dependent on Russian energy especially the Germans

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Zichi,Putin is not through with Kiev,if he can pacify ,the east ,he headed too Kiev and beyond,

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Bass: Yeah, we do when it comes to keeping this country safe.

This? Are you back in Japan again?

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Russia are big and strong.

China and India are funding them. Between the 3 of them and various other supporters getting towards half the world's population.

So sanctions will not help. Russians will plod on maybe for 3 even 5 more years. Look at the death and destruction in just 2 months. Is starting to drop from news cycle. Australian TV news barely reporting about it anymore. My heart goes out to the kids

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Michaelqtodd - so do we just let the big and strong countries take what they want? I don't know if that is sustainable.

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Time for a no-fly zone enforced by America and the other NATO countries and anti-missile attacks.

I was waiting for personal story about bombing Dresden or something

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