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© Copyright 2020 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Sanders edges Buttigieg in New Hampshire
By Steve Peoples, Kathleen Ronayne and Hunter Woodall MANCHESTER, NH©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
42 Comments
nostromo
hopefully the leading democrat candidate will have a pulse on election day....
WilliB
The "Democrat" swamp will of course shut out Sanders, and his fans will be furious.
A great show is coming up, keep the popcorn ready!
HonestDictator
Ugh... Bernie is too old. Xi and Putin are younger than him and will treat him like he's about to keel over soon.
Wakarimasen
Andrew Yang is ‘of colour”? Sanders will get it and be cheated by the Dem bigwigs again. Mayor mini Mike will be their guy. 2 billionaires fighting it out for POTUS. Tells you everything about the modern US
taychan
@TheLongTermer
just a heads up, it's "a lot"
TheLongTermer
it has all the characteristics of a cult; Biden talking about how butt is not an Obama, like he was a great leader or something that nobody can rise too. What a mess.
lincolnman
Keep up the great orange delusion Trumpers....your guy can't even beat Klobuchar....
Biden 50, Trump 43
Sanders 51, Trump 43
Warren 48, Trump 44
Blommberg 51, Trump 42
Buttigieg 47, Trump 43
Klobuchar 49, Trump 43
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Dump Trump/Pitch Pence/Ditch Mitch 2020!
commanteer
You already forgot how all the polls had Trump losing the last election, apparently.
I find the whole Democrat preliminaries boring. They will select either Sanders or a good party apparatchik, so that nominee can go through the charade of challenging Trump, who win another four years. There is always the chance that a crazed lefty or CIA asset will try to take him out, but he has the election as good as locked.
bass4funk
None of these people will beat Trump, they’re doing the same thing all over again. But as Lincoln said, Mueller will get Trump, Cohen will get him, Avenatti will get him, he will be impeached for sure and none of it happened and here he is with confidence (yes, again) thinking these clowns will beat Trump. Not a chance. Lol
Blacklabel
why dont any of those numbers add up to 100%?
Blacklabel
and this what this exact poll predicted yesterday to happen today. try again.
according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Sanders gets 25 percent of the vote among Democratic voters and independent voters who lean Democratic, while Biden gets 17 percent, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg receives 15 percent, Senator Elizabeth Warren gets 14 percent, former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg receives 10 percent, and Senator Amy Klobuchar gets 4 percent. No other candidate tops 2 percent.
Jimizo
They are not clowns. Remember you are a non-partisan and look at them objectively. Also, remember that you dismissed Trump as the leader of a “lunatic fringe”.
To begin, Sanders is not a clown. Like him or not, he’s a politician who has stuck with his principles and has more honesty ( remember that? ) than most politicians. He even knows where his father was born.
Buttigieg is highly educated and articulate and served his country. Like him or not, you can’t dismiss him as a clown. He’s much smarter than you or I, and unlike you or I, served his country in the armed forces. Like Sanders, he doesn’t go in for clownish conspiracy trash from the National Enquirer.
Whether or not they’ll even get the chance to beat Trump remains to be seen, but dismissing them as clowns is silly partisanship.
Blacklabel
how can a candidate who only has 4% national support in a poll..... beat Trump in a national election by 6% in the same poll?
I would be more worried that Bernie has less than half the votes he got in NH in 2016.
Sneezy
Some people are undecided, or intend to vote for a third party.
Many Democratic voters prefer someone who isn't Klobuchar, but if she was the nominee they would vote for her in a general election. This is like saying that Trump would only win 33% of the vote in a general election because he only won 33% of the vote in the Republican New Hampshire Primary of 2016.
There are far more candidates to choose from this time around, as opposed to the two candidates in 2016. As I told you before, the total vote in NH was up on 2016. Yang has dropped out, and I predict the majority of those intending to vote for him in upcoming primaries will go for Bernie.
Mr Kipling
Lincolnman... Those numbers are great, but they are national figures.
The only numbers that have any significant meaning are the swing states.
What are the numbers there?
Sneezy
This isn't true. Clinton won 54% of the woman vote.
Blacklabel
again, great win Bernie!
But you arent at all concerned where the 81,000 more people who voted for him last time went? Thats not even counting the 95,000 who voted for Clinton last time.
Just look at the 152,000 who voted for him in 2016 compared to 72,000 this time so far. what happened?
And no every single Dem who supports all the other candidates isnt going to suddenly vote for Klobuchar to magically get her from 4% to 46% national support even if she wins the nomination.
Serrano
"This victory here is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump,”
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Biden 50, Trump 43
Sanders 51, Trump 43
Warren 48, Trump 44
Blommberg 51, Trump 42
Buttigieg 47, Trump 43
Klobuchar 49, Trump 43
Dayum! Trump might as well resign now! hahaha, lol...
The best one is Klobuchar 49, Trump 43 - too funny!
Trump-Pence 2020 all the way, Baby!
Blacklabel
Trump winning 53% of white women is the accurate figure.
won 53% against a white woman who had 94% support among black women in order to win the overall woman vote.
Will Klobuchar get 94% of black women vote and if so, based on what?
ulysses
Sanders and Buttigieg get a good amount of support from the young progressives.
Donny has the old, angry and regressive on his side.
The progressives will lead us forward while the regressive are making us backward.
Go Figure!!
Sneezy
I told you: with a larger field, it is inevitable that votes will be more spread out. As the field narrows, the vote share of those who remain will increase. Consider that Trump won 24% of the vote in the Iowa caucus in 2016, but his share increased as the contest went on, and rivals dropped out. This isn't an especially complex concept.
The vast majority of registered Democratic members will support the nominee of that party. As a parallel, consider the many Republicans who said that they would never vote for Trump, but ended up doing so on the day of the election in 2016.
ulysses
Me too!!
Funny how sick the country is with the not so bright man we have in the WH.
You forgot to add, to Moscow!!
Sneezy
I wonder why women of colour keep getting excluded from GOP narratives? Huh. Weird.
I don't think Klobuchar will win the nomination.
lincolnman
Just look at the Trumpers whine, moan, and deflect - offering nothing but tears...
Even your own Fox News poll has him losing to the Top 3 Dems....
Biden 51, Trump 29
Saunders 49, Trump 41
Warren 46, Trump 41
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-leads-nomination-race-tops-trump-by-12-points-in-matchup
Oh my!
Say it once more, with feeling - maybe you'll get 10 people to believe you - and 9 will be in Moscow...
Blacklabel
same reason women of color are excluded from the Dem primaries and debates, I guess?
Really weird, as Dems are claiming to be the diversity party.
Mr Kipling
lincolnman.... I am far, far from a trump supporter, and I hope we see the back of him asap, but National numbers count for very little. As the last election showed all too well.
How do they match up in the states that matter? The ones the democrats need to win?
Blacklabel
I just wonder why 81,000 people who voted for Bernie last time chose this time to not vote or to vote for someone else. Thats not a good sign and I think it is a legitimate concern. 152,000 in 2016 to 72,000 so far today is a huge drop.
Meanwhile 120,000 people and counting voted for Trump, setting a new record for an incumbent in a NH primary for either party. in a state Trump lost in 2016.
Sneezy
Women of color aren't systematically excluded from primaries or debates. Women of color are among the most prominent Democratic party politicians. The Squad are a shining example.
But for some reason, as we've seen, when Republicans say "women", what they mean is "white women". Just strange is all.
Sneezy
I don't. As before: the nominee will have the vast majority of their party members behind them in the general election.
Trump is essentially running unopposed. It's a poor comparison. You seem to have a lot of difficulty comparing like for like.
Blacklabel
then where are they? i dont see any except Tulsi, and you see how she is treated by your party.
So mostly just waiting in the back to be the VP nominees to get the minority votes for an old white guy to be able to win the general election under the "diversity" banner.
Chip Star
That reason being those candidates failed to clear the required thresholds form inclusion in the debates. You’re not trying to imply it’s because they are women of color, are you? That’s just silly.
Blacklabel
Obama ran unopposed in 2012 Dem primary and only got 49,080 votes.
18.7% of people actually voted for someone else even though he was unopposed.
Is this like for like?
Blacklabel
No, I am not implying anything.
Dont need to imply because Kamala Harris informed us all its because of racism. is she silly?
bass4funk
These clowns have a very odd notion that people in massive numbers will turn the country over to a old socialist, not going to happen even if some people have to hold their nose on Trump, so I do hope he’s the nominee. First Schiff gives Trump a big win and it seems liberals are giving him the golden keys with Bernie or mayor Pete.
He’s worse.
That’s for me to decide, but either way, he won’t be President, so we can stop right there.
No, it’s pretty much over for them, just being brutally honest.
Sneezy
It is! You finally managed to compare apples to apples. Trump's supporters in NH are clearly motivated and enthusiastic in a way that Obama's weren't in 2012. Back in 2012, Romney managed to get nearly double Obama's votes in his primary, in a contest against a far wider field.
How did 2012 work out for the GOP?
Sneezy
Did she? I can't find this quote, could you help me out?
ulysses
Since you defined Donny as a socialist, better leave that one alone.
No he didn't , donny just scraped by.
No one is worse than Donny, he is at the bottom.
Donny seems to be in a hurry to grant pardons, doesn't look like he has much confidence in his chances.
Blacklabel
here you go:
Harris, whose chosen pronouns are 'she' and 'her,' rolled that "I can win because" rhetoric out in an interview with Axios on HBO. Harris described electability as the “elephant in the room” of her campaign and pondered whether America is ready for a woman of color to be commander in chief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9BsZuv9jE
https://www.wibc.com/blogs/chicks-right/sen-kamala-harris-blames-racism-sexism-her-campaign-issues
She started it then all the liberal media jumped onboard to support her claims.