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Is The Wall Around Nancy Pelosi's House Immoral? | Huckabee

Leave it to a conservative - Huckabee - to make a false equivalency between a walk around a house and a walk along the border. This is another example of the black and white world in which conservatives live unless they are spinning conspiracy theories.

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Mock all you want. At least we aren’t donating money to porn stars, broke creepy lawyers or fired FBI leadership.

Oh, you mean at least conservatives aren't donating money to ensure people get a fair shake in the justice system. That's definitely something to brag about.

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The border wall gofundme campaign is already the top 3 overall and that’s in just 4 days.

Only 24999 million dollars to go!

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Thanks for the reminder to donate.

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For all you conservatives, pur your money where your mouths are:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gofundme-campaign-border-wall-raises-010942362.html

It must have been painful to post that.

The border wall gofundme campaign is already the top 3 overall and that’s in just 4 days.

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"Nancy Pelosi, who is poised to become House speaker on Jan 3"

Good grief. She's gonna be even worse than Paul Ryan. Democrat voters are going to see their huge mistake real soon, heck they already got a taste last week when Trump made her and Schumer look like idiots during that meeting in the WH about border security.

Is The Wall Around Nancy Pelosi's House Immoral? | Huckabee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or3P0Wivqz0

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So the wall funding bill is headed to the Senate. Despite a Pelosi saying it didn’t have enough votes to pass the House.

Time to make Dems filibuster for 2 weeks straight. Actually make them do it not just accept their threat.

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This was classic... Even spineless Mitch McConnell, after whining about partisan politics and saying it's the Dem's fault it didn't go through sooner, was on his way home when Trump did what he wined to the Dem's about and decided not to sign the bill, effectively stopping it and putting the shutdown back on the table.

bass4funk: "There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one"

Not necessary. According to himself, Trump knows more than all of them on ISIS and more. So why not just say no one else is needed and then put Kushner or another ankle grabber in the position on top of all his other jobs he's equally qualified for?

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For all you conservatives, pur your money where your mouths are:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gofundme-campaign-border-wall-raises-010942362.html

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There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one

Yes, but finding a willing lamb will be as difficult as parsing your statements.

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that is almost certain to be rejected by the Senate.

Yeah, until the senators start getting calls from their MIC and corporate benefactors over Trumps abrupt withdrawal from Syria.

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which leads to water. Lol

Throw him back from which he came = sewer or septic tank - your choice...

Just ask Ivana, Marla, and Melania - you could ask Stormy too...

All Smart, so what’s your point?

It obviously went over your head...

I mean, the retired 4-star General, considered to be the most capable and qualified of anyone in the administration, just quit because he thinks the President is a threat to the republic...what's the big deal people?

The news that just came out about an hour ago was that he did indeed resign and guess what? There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one

Mattis dead - I hope that was a typo....

Yes, like all these conservatives...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-gets-no-credit-as-republicans-question-syria-withdrawal-trump-tweets-after-midnight-to-defend-himself/

The Seattle Times?? What are the most liberal papers in the country, why not the New York Times at least a bit of credibility Kinda, somewhat, whatever ....

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/12/20/gen-jack-keane-trump-making-mistake-withdrawing-us-troops-syria

And again as a president he has the right to make that decision, the last president made that decision as well to leave Iraq, Presidents can do that.

Presidents can do that....just ask Nixon....

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@bas4 The Seattle Times?? What are the most liberal papers in the country,

Someone doesn't know their US media if they're calling the Seattle Times liberal. Maybe in comparison to Stars and Stripes, definitely in comparison with ultrarightist outlets favored by ultrarightists like infowars, Breitbart, Fox'news', RT, etc.

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I believe the more accurate word is "sewer"...

which leads to water. Lol

Just ask Ivana, Marla, and Melania - you could ask Stormy too...

All Smart, so what’s your point?

I mean, the retired 4-star General, considered to be the most capable and qualified of anyone in the administration, just quit because he thinks the President is a threat to the republic...what's the big deal people?

The news that just came out about an hour ago was that he did indeed resign and guess what? There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one

Yes, like all these conservatives...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-gets-no-credit-as-republicans-question-syria-withdrawal-trump-tweets-after-midnight-to-defend-himself/

The Seattle Times?? What are the most liberal papers in the country, why not the New York Times at least a bit of credibility Kinda, somewhat, whatever ....

And again as a president he has the right to make that decision, the last president made that decision as well to leave Iraq, Presidents can do that.

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Liberals make it as if they will never ever get money whatsoever

Yep. We're all just makin' it sound like they will never ever get money whatsoever.

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Flopping all over the place.

Throw him back him the water.

I believe the more accurate word is "sewer"...

People finally seeing this failed casino-owner / multiple-bankrupt real estate developer in the 

And who reestablished himself multiple times again

Just ask Ivana, Marla, and Melania - you could ask Stormy too...

..look this is just a small setback nothing more

I mean, the retired 4-star General, considered to be the most capable and qualified of anyone in the administration, just quit because he thinks the President is a threat to the republic...what's the big deal people?

..it’s just amazing how people are getting sort of annoyed about this.

Yes, like all these conservatives...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-gets-no-credit-as-republicans-question-syria-withdrawal-trump-tweets-after-midnight-to-defend-himself/

Lol

Actually, for Putin, I believe its LMFAO....

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Typo, I meant funded....

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Does the line you want held include no payment of any sort during the shutdown to the dozens of thousands of US 'contractors', including those employed by all the various defense industries and even media outfits like Stars and Stripes, who've been living large off the taxpayers for far too long?

Please don’t start that. 75% of The government It’s fun to do next year and also any one of the government that will not get paid will be reimbursed, Synterra crap that people are not going to get paid and once again the Liberals make it as if they will never ever get money whatsoever, this is a bunch of hogwash in the bases tactic that they try again and again in the same people that gladly upheld the Schumer shut down in the last year.

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@bas4 Hold the line!

Does the line you want held include no payment of any sort during the shutdown to the dozens of thousands of US 'contractors', including those employed by all the various defense industries and even media outfits like Stars and Stripes, who've been living large off the taxpayers for far too long?

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Flopping all over the place.

Throw him back him the water.

People finally seeing this failed casino-owner / multiple-bankrupt real estate developer in the 

And who reestablished himself multiple times again, look this is just a small setback nothing more, it’s just amazing how people are getting sort of annoyed about this. Lol

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SuperLibToday  

So Trump started off the meeting with Schumer trying to blame him for the shutdown, then does a 180 minutes later to take ownership, then he changes his mind about the shutdown, then he changes it back?

StrangerlandToday  

The guy has more flip-flops than Venice Beach.

People finally seeing this failed casino-owner / multiple-bankrupt real estate developer in the White House as the fish out of water that he is. Flopping all over the place.

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Hold the line!

Definitely! Keep that government shut down over your weakness! The people will love that.

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So Trump started off the meeting with Schumer trying to blame him for the shutdown, then does a 180 minutes later to take ownership, then he changes his mind about the shutdown, then he changes it back?

The guy has more flip-flops than Venice Beach.

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To the sinking ship!!!

Democrats.

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bass4funkToday 08:50 am JST  Hold the line

To the sinking ship!!!!

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Hold the line!

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So Trump started off the meeting with Schumer trying to blame him for the shutdown, then does a 180 minutes later to take ownership, then he changes his mind about the shutdown, then he changes it back?

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"With so much talk about the Wall, people are losing sight of the great job being done on our Southern Border by Border Patrol, ICE and our great Military," Trump tweeted. "Remember the Caravans? Well, they didn't get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!"

Well, Trump says it himself : the border is secured !

Why would you need a wall then ?

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So it’s fiscally responsible to give 10 billion to Mexico instead?

Gee, I thought Mexico was supposed to give us money (pay for the wall...)

Billions more in Syria and Afghanistan.

About one year in tax breaks for the Top 1%...

Pulling out of Syria pays for the wall in its entirety within 3 years.

And let's ISIS re-build, keeps Assad in power, and increases Russia and Iran's influence in the region...

Yea, that was a real brilliant move...if you're a puppet to Putin...

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Libs just mad because they were so ready to push their already typed stories mocking Trump for signing it.

Actually, I think we were ready to point out he is weak, either way.

Because you know, he's weak, which means he loses whether he holds out for something that is not going to happen, or gives in to what he said he wouldn't do.

Only a weak leader paints themselves into a corner like that, due to the major damage to their reputation that results.

Only weak leaders....

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Yep and Dem lawmakers get paid too while trying to delay until February to do their job

That's a relief. Otherwise they'd be losing their salaries simply because Trump is so weak he can't even control a government in which his team holds literally all the power. The presidency and both houses. And still he can't pass a budget!

Weak weak weak weak.

If you Google weak, Trump's face shows up.

..oh wait no that was 'idiot' you have to Google to see Trump's face. My bad.

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Libs just mad because they were so ready to push their already typed stories mocking Trump for signing it. Not so fast.

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So it’s fiscally responsible to give 10 billion to Mexico instead?

Um, no, why would you think that think you made up in your head, that no one has said other than you, would have any basis in reality outside the right-wing deep-state unicornverse MSM fake news bubble?

You don't think we're as stupid you people are, do you?

No, fiscally responsible is getting Mexico to pay for the wall as Sir weakness promised.

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So it’s fiscally responsible to give 10 billion to Mexico instead? Billions more in Syria and Afghanistan. Pulling out of Syria pays for the wall in its entirety within 3 years.

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Trump was ready to sign the bill yesterday with no wall funding until he watched Fox and Friends where the three stooges jumped all over him for "surrendering"...

And Ann Coulter called him weak.

You know when the swamp hates you, that you're a truly pathetic and useless leader... or a Democrat.

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Yep and Dem lawmakers get paid too while trying to delay until February to do their job and address border security.

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Our Senior US Foreign Policy Advisor is now not Pompeo, Mattis, or Pence - it's Steve "The Dodo" Doocey...

Trump was ready to sign the bill yesterday with no wall funding until he watched Fox and Friends where the three stooges jumped all over him for "surrendering"...

So now he U-turns...and the Republicans again will get it in the shorts...

You can't make this stuff up....

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“Lawmakers, by contrast, would be paid during a shutdown, since 2019 spending for that portion of the federal budget was already signed into law. “

Yeah, super hypocritical that the Republicans still get paid even while shutting down the government.

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The left doesn't care about border security. Just look at their actions for proof. They've held up common sense proposals before Trump was elected.

You know I think you're a good guy TheFu, but you're repeating the hyper-partisan line on this. Your comment is not based in reality. It's simply what Trump and the right are tying to tell people as a hyper-partisan lie.

Democrats are not against border security. Not being for a boondoggle does not make one against the entire idea whatsoever. It just means they aren't being financially irresponsible.

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Trump backed himself into a corner. He threw a hissy fit, saying he would shut down the government, thinking everyone would give in to his hissy fit as they always have, since he is a rich baby who has always got his way when throwing hissy fits, But now, it's not working, but since he backed himself in to a corner, he either looks weak for having a hissy-fit then giving in, or he looks weak for not being able to control his government and keeping running.

Either way, it's very clear he's a weak, weak leader. Entirely pathetic. Entirely useless.

And yet still his Zealots are so stupid, they are trying to defend Cosby.

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From another article, how convenient:

“Lawmakers, by contrast, would be paid during a shutdown, since 2019 spending for that portion of the federal budget was already signed into law. “

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There won't be any funding for border control under the next congress. The left doesn't care about border security. Just look at their actions for proof. They've held up common sense proposals before Trump was elected.

Having 5k+ soldiers backing up CBP and ICE isn't very efficient. There has to be a better way that doesn't leave a porous border.

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Excellent. No more kicking the can down the road. Secure our borders just like every other sovereign nation doe.

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If he had better political instincts, he'd punt this until January then place blame solely on democrats. B/C he's a moron, he'll start the New Year by pissing off everyone except his base. I know they're in intestine-deep denial, but the public eventually tires of the people we summon forth to "lead" us. Trump's term in office should be measured in dog years, all chaos and ineptitude all the time. At some point people will want a bit of normalcy and decency.

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If the border is already “tight,” why do we need to build a wall?

His argument boils done to: I will shut down the government to solve a problem I insist doesn't exist.

Pure Trump and his idiot enablers

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Once again: My way, my way, you hear me? MY WAY!!

If this was someone else and other circumstances it would be called black-mailing.

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Looks like it’s globalism that’s in a state of disarray . Borders are closing everywhere.

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"Republicans are in a state of disarray," said House Democratic Minority Leader 

The US is in a state of disarray thanks to Trump and his enablers at home and 'abroad'.

But undermining the US democratic system was what Trump said he would do (and has been successful at doing) and what his supporters, both American, 'foreign', and in other places around the globe, also said they wanted.

So in that regard Mission Accomplished!

Trump: pounding those nails into the coffin of the remaining bits of US democracy.

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