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© Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Trump's demand for wall moves government closer to shutdown
By Lisa Mascaro, Matthew Daly and Catherine Lucey WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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PTownsend
The US is in a state of disarray thanks to Trump and his enablers at home and 'abroad'.
But undermining the US democratic system was what Trump said he would do (and has been successful at doing) and what his supporters, both American, 'foreign', and in other places around the globe, also said they wanted.
So in that regard Mission Accomplished!
Trump: pounding those nails into the coffin of the remaining bits of US democracy.
cla68
Looks like it’s globalism that’s in a state of disarray . Borders are closing everywhere.
CrazyJoe
If the border is already “tight,” why do we need to build a wall?
His argument boils done to: I will shut down the government to solve a problem I insist doesn't exist.
Pure Trump and his idiot enablers
jcapan
If he had better political instincts, he'd punt this until January then place blame solely on democrats. B/C he's a moron, he'll start the New Year by pissing off everyone except his base. I know they're in intestine-deep denial, but the public eventually tires of the people we summon forth to "lead" us. Trump's term in office should be measured in dog years, all chaos and ineptitude all the time. At some point people will want a bit of normalcy and decency.
Blacklabel
Excellent. No more kicking the can down the road. Secure our borders just like every other sovereign nation doe.
theFu
There won't be any funding for border control under the next congress. The left doesn't care about border security. Just look at their actions for proof. They've held up common sense proposals before Trump was elected.
Having 5k+ soldiers backing up CBP and ICE isn't very efficient. There has to be a better way that doesn't leave a porous border.
Blacklabel
From another article, how convenient:
“Lawmakers, by contrast, would be paid during a shutdown, since 2019 spending for that portion of the federal budget was already signed into law. “
Strangerland
Trump backed himself into a corner. He threw a hissy fit, saying he would shut down the government, thinking everyone would give in to his hissy fit as they always have, since he is a rich baby who has always got his way when throwing hissy fits, But now, it's not working, but since he backed himself in to a corner, he either looks weak for having a hissy-fit then giving in, or he looks weak for not being able to control his government and keeping running.
Either way, it's very clear he's a weak, weak leader. Entirely pathetic. Entirely useless.
And yet still his Zealots are so stupid, they are trying to defend Cosby.
Strangerland
You know I think you're a good guy TheFu, but you're repeating the hyper-partisan line on this. Your comment is not based in reality. It's simply what Trump and the right are tying to tell people as a hyper-partisan lie.
Democrats are not against border security. Not being for a boondoggle does not make one against the entire idea whatsoever. It just means they aren't being financially irresponsible.
Strangerland
Yeah, super hypocritical that the Republicans still get paid even while shutting down the government.
lincolnman
Our Senior US Foreign Policy Advisor is now not Pompeo, Mattis, or Pence - it's Steve "The Dodo" Doocey...
Trump was ready to sign the bill yesterday with no wall funding until he watched Fox and Friends where the three stooges jumped all over him for "surrendering"...
So now he U-turns...and the Republicans again will get it in the shorts...
You can't make this stuff up....
Blacklabel
Yep and Dem lawmakers get paid too while trying to delay until February to do their job and address border security.
Strangerland
And Ann Coulter called him weak.
You know when the swamp hates you, that you're a truly pathetic and useless leader... or a Democrat.
Blacklabel
So it’s fiscally responsible to give 10 billion to Mexico instead? Billions more in Syria and Afghanistan. Pulling out of Syria pays for the wall in its entirety within 3 years.
Strangerland
Um, no, why would you think that think you made up in your head, that no one has said other than you, would have any basis in reality outside the right-wing deep-state unicornverse MSM fake news bubble?
You don't think we're as stupid you people are, do you?
No, fiscally responsible is getting Mexico to pay for the wall as Sir weakness promised.
Blacklabel
Libs just mad because they were so ready to push their already typed stories mocking Trump for signing it. Not so fast.
Strangerland
That's a relief. Otherwise they'd be losing their salaries simply because Trump is so weak he can't even control a government in which his team holds literally all the power. The presidency and both houses. And still he can't pass a budget!
Weak weak weak weak.
If you Google weak, Trump's face shows up.
..oh wait no that was 'idiot' you have to Google to see Trump's face. My bad.
Strangerland
Actually, I think we were ready to point out he is weak, either way.
Because you know, he's weak, which means he loses whether he holds out for something that is not going to happen, or gives in to what he said he wouldn't do.
Only a weak leader paints themselves into a corner like that, due to the major damage to their reputation that results.
Only weak leaders....
lincolnman
Gee, I thought Mexico was supposed to give us money (pay for the wall...)
About one year in tax breaks for the Top 1%...
And let's ISIS re-build, keeps Assad in power, and increases Russia and Iran's influence in the region...
Yea, that was a real brilliant move...if you're a puppet to Putin...
Bintaro
Well, Trump says it himself : the border is secured !
Why would you need a wall then ?
SuperLib
So Trump started off the meeting with Schumer trying to blame him for the shutdown, then does a 180 minutes later to take ownership, then he changes his mind about the shutdown, then he changes it back?
bass4funk
Hold the line!
lincolnman
To the sinking ship!!!!
bass4funk
Democrats.
Strangerland
The guy has more flip-flops than Venice Beach.
Strangerland
Definitely! Keep that government shut down over your weakness! The people will love that.
taj
SuperLibToday
StrangerlandToday
People finally seeing this failed casino-owner / multiple-bankrupt real estate developer in the White House as the fish out of water that he is. Flopping all over the place.
bass4funk
Throw him back him the water.
And who reestablished himself multiple times again, look this is just a small setback nothing more, it’s just amazing how people are getting sort of annoyed about this. Lol
PTownsend
Does the line you want held include no payment of any sort during the shutdown to the dozens of thousands of US 'contractors', including those employed by all the various defense industries and even media outfits like Stars and Stripes, who've been living large off the taxpayers for far too long?
bass4funk
Please don’t start that. 75% of The government It’s fun to do next year and also any one of the government that will not get paid will be reimbursed, Synterra crap that people are not going to get paid and once again the Liberals make it as if they will never ever get money whatsoever, this is a bunch of hogwash in the bases tactic that they try again and again in the same people that gladly upheld the Schumer shut down in the last year.
bass4funk
Typo, I meant funded....
lincolnman
I believe the more accurate word is "sewer"...
Just ask Ivana, Marla, and Melania - you could ask Stormy too...
I mean, the retired 4-star General, considered to be the most capable and qualified of anyone in the administration, just quit because he thinks the President is a threat to the republic...what's the big deal people?
Yes, like all these conservatives...
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-gets-no-credit-as-republicans-question-syria-withdrawal-trump-tweets-after-midnight-to-defend-himself/
Actually, for Putin, I believe its LMFAO....
SuperLib
Yep. We're all just makin' it sound like they will never ever get money whatsoever.
bass4funk
which leads to water. Lol
All Smart, so what’s your point?
The news that just came out about an hour ago was that he did indeed resign and guess what? There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one
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The Seattle Times?? What are the most liberal papers in the country, why not the New York Times at least a bit of credibility Kinda, somewhat, whatever ....
And again as a president he has the right to make that decision, the last president made that decision as well to leave Iraq, Presidents can do that.
PTownsend
Someone doesn't know their US media if they're calling the Seattle Times liberal. Maybe in comparison to Stars and Stripes, definitely in comparison with ultrarightist outlets favored by ultrarightists like infowars, Breitbart, Fox'news', RT, etc.
lincolnman
Throw him back from which he came = sewer or septic tank - your choice...
It obviously went over your head...
Mattis dead - I hope that was a typo....
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/12/20/gen-jack-keane-trump-making-mistake-withdrawing-us-troops-syria
Presidents can do that....just ask Nixon....
FizzBit
Yeah, until the senators start getting calls from their MIC and corporate benefactors over Trumps abrupt withdrawal from Syria.
Laguna
Yes, but finding a willing lamb will be as difficult as parsing your statements.
Chip Star
For all you conservatives, pur your money where your mouths are:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gofundme-campaign-border-wall-raises-010942362.html
smithinjapan
This was classic... Even spineless Mitch McConnell, after whining about partisan politics and saying it's the Dem's fault it didn't go through sooner, was on his way home when Trump did what he wined to the Dem's about and decided not to sign the bill, effectively stopping it and putting the shutdown back on the table.
bass4funk: "There are many more general is out there that can do the job that Mattis dead, he’s not the only one"
Not necessary. According to himself, Trump knows more than all of them on ISIS and more. So why not just say no one else is needed and then put Kushner or another ankle grabber in the position on top of all his other jobs he's equally qualified for?
Blacklabel
So the wall funding bill is headed to the Senate. Despite a Pelosi saying it didn’t have enough votes to pass the House.
Time to make Dems filibuster for 2 weeks straight. Actually make them do it not just accept their threat.
Serrano
"Nancy Pelosi, who is poised to become House speaker on Jan 3"
Good grief. She's gonna be even worse than Paul Ryan. Democrat voters are going to see their huge mistake real soon, heck they already got a taste last week when Trump made her and Schumer look like idiots during that meeting in the WH about border security.
Is The Wall Around Nancy Pelosi's House Immoral? | Huckabee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or3P0Wivqz0
FizzBit
It must have been painful to post that.
The border wall gofundme campaign is already the top 3 overall and that’s in just 4 days.
Blacklabel
Thanks for the reminder to donate.
Strangerland
Only 24999 million dollars to go!
Chip Star
Oh, you mean at least conservatives aren't donating money to ensure people get a fair shake in the justice system. That's definitely something to brag about.
Chip Star
Leave it to a conservative - Huckabee - to make a false equivalency between a walk around a house and a walk along the border. This is another example of the black and white world in which conservatives live unless they are spinning conspiracy theories.