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Trump: 'Hate has no place in our country, and we're going to take care of it'

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Donny is an ignorant moron, which is why he is able to connect with his base so well.

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There have been very few Democrats that put the blame on Trump, ( of course Beto because he is from El Paso and campaigning for President) Other than that there have been very few Democrats blaming Trump for this trouble. Democrats know that this is a bi-partisan issue and they never speak of gun control on the campaign trail. In fact on Sundays news shows Democrats and Republicans both agree that this is a much bigger problem than the Trump presidency.

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In fact on Sundays news shows Democrats and Republicans both agree that this is a much bigger problem than the Trump presidency.

This is true, Seems the U.S. has had this trouble for as long as I can remember and every President is blamed when something terrible happens.

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President Donald Trump of stoking racial divisions while he insisted "hate has no place in our country."

So when do you plan on deporting yourself?

The seeds of division and hatred may not have been planted by you, but you sure have fertilized them enough!

7 ( +17 / -10 )

The question is.... would the guy in El Paso have shot and killed 20 people when he did if Trump were not the person he is? Tough question to answer... but I will say this, you cannot rule out Trump influence totally and that in and of itself is a problem. Trump is making all immigrants, whether legal or illegal appear to be bad people.... even though his White immigrant wife stands next to him.

7 ( +18 / -11 )

Yeah this isn't Trump's fault, but he'll take hits because he's in charge right now. That's all. There is a huge problem to do with the legislature and most of us know what it is but when confronted with it there are still a large amount of people who don't even want to talk about it.

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The seeds of division and hatred may not have been planted by you, but you sure have fertilized them enough!

It's organic male bovine fertilizer straight from Donny's mouth.

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Trump has the biggest voice in the world. What he says has consequences. Since 2015 he’s been demonizing Hispanic immigrants, and his base loves it.

Now 20 innocent people are dead in Texas. Targeted by a man who clearly agrees with Trump.

7 ( +16 / -9 )

This has nothing to do do with Trump, this happened under Obama's watch too. The U.S. has a gun problem and it won't go away until the constitution is changed.

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Words have consequences. Trump has not created this hate: he's just encouraged it to bare its ugly face. "Hey, if the president is saying this, I can, too" some think, and others, "Hey, if everyone is saying this, I can act on it."

To be sure, Trump didn't desire this, if not at least as it complicates his election strategy.

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I don't think you can lay the blame for this directly at Trump's feet. These killings are irrational actions by irrational humans. But the fact is they are acts of hatred, and Trump is stoking hatred in America. So it's hard to find him blameless either.

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What a maroon and a joke.

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This has nothing to do do with Trump, this happened under Obama's watch too.

The Pubs blamed it on Obama when it happened. Then they whine when people point out how Trump has created an environment where hatred is acceptable.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

When is Trump going to label this an act of terrorism? When is he going to denounce white nationalism?

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The Pubs blamed it on Obama when it happened. Then they whine when people point out how Trump has created an environment where hatred is acceptable.

I agree, and also with your previous comment, but it still happened and will still happen regardless of the president's political affiliation. The group targeted can be blamed on Trump, but the fact that it happened at all can't. That's down to the NRA and the 2nd.

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So says the man that has made hate a hallmark of his presidency, insulting individual citizens with petty and junior-high school remarks, MOCKING a disabled reporter, and saying, yes, there are some good people that have aligned themselves with Nazis and fascists. AND, how do you explain, conservative posters, two of these or more of these mass killers wrote manifestos which were inspired by Trump, they referenced TRUMP. Too bad he won't ever leave because he knows if he did, he will be indicted for obstruction and put in jail.

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Agree with all the posts here.  Trump never learned to not pour gasoline on a simmering flame and not expect it to become worse.   Hypocrite as always.   Actions and behavior has consequences...

Can't spout rhetoric and arrogance without inspiring those more than willing to take that rhetoric to the next level.

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Donald Trump once said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters." And now we're to believe that he cares about gun violence?

Also, what is amazing is that the police in Drayton responded to this shooting in 60 seconds. Yet, the shooter was able to kill 9 people and wounding 26 others. I'm pretty sure you can't do that level of carnage with a knife in 60 seconds. Guns are the problem.

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"This is also a mental illness problem, if you look at both of these cases. This is mental illness. These are really people that are very, very seriously mentally ill," Trump told reporters.

Right. So, when a Muslim commits an act of violence, it's because of his religion. When a Black person commits a crime, it's because of his skin color, but when a White person commits a mass slaughter, it has nothing to do with his skin color, religion, nationality, or anything that may put a negative light on his group. It is entirely the fault of this one individual, and his mental issues, definitely nothing to do with being externally influenced, no need to blame his group or look for external influences.

This is called White privilege. The privilege of being given the benefit of the doubt. The privilege to be judged by your own individual actions, and not be guilty by association.

When a black person commits a crime, his entire group gets the blame. When a Hispanic or Muslim commits a crime, their group gets the blame. When a White person commits a crime, he is judged as an individual, his group does not get blamed. It's called privilege.

For someone so ultra sensitive to words like Trump, how can he not understand how his words have an effect on the way other people are perceived, and subsequently, treated. Unless of course, he does understand, but his desire to "win" is greater than his consideration for the way certain minorities are perceived.

I am not putting all the blame on Trump. White nationalism and anti-Black/Hispanic/Muslim sentiments are a part of a much more complex issue. It has existed decades before Trump, and most likely will continue to exist decades after Trump is long gone. It doesn't matter who becomes the next president, and how they speak, or what they say, the people who commit these acts of violence get indoctrinated online, and they hardly care who is the president.

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This has nothing to do do with Trump, this happened under Obama's watch too.

Point all the fingers you want, but it is not going to change the fact that AMERICAN's do not care! Everyone, from the president on down, talks the talk, but ZERO really and truly care about making and effective changes.

All anyone cares about and is grateful for, is that it didnt happen where they live, for the time being at least! Everyone wrings their hands, and cries for change.......but the reality is NONE is coming!

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The shooter’s words:

“a response to the Hispanic invasion”

”send them back”

Sound familiar?

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This has nothing to do do with Trump, this happened under Obama's watch too. The U.S. has a gun problem and it won't go away until the constitution is changed.

I agree with the first half, but with the second, none of this has anything to do with the President, either to be exact, but changing the constitution will not change anything, you will never see a sweeping of confiscation of guns whatsoever, it just won’t happen. The bigger problem rests with certain individuals that should never have guns, not the NRA and demonizing it is a very dicey move for Democrats and they know it, they talk a lot, but to move against them or touch the 2nd amendment is political suicide, maybe the screening process needs to change or we need to have a better system in evaluating potential people that are prone to violent outbursts, guns with sensors, there is a lot we can do, but throwing false and senseless blame to the President or playing the race card will never solve the situation, it won’t. Gun haters and gun holders both sides can never approach this on an emotional level, it won’t solve anything.

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“a response to the Hispanic invasion”

”send them back”

Sound familiar?

Been hearing that all my life, but yes, in California it’s a very Common phrase.

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Been hearing that all my life, but yes, in California it’s a very Common phrase.

Ohio? Texas?

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I wonder if Trump would like to express his opinions on the El Paso terrorist who is a avid Trump supporter?

Mr President. Your words and behaviour has motivated and encouraged your supporters to go out into the streets to attack ethnic minorities who live within the country that you're meant to be the leader of!

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Been hearing that all my life, but yes, in California it’s a very Common phrase.

And now, instead of just ignorant morons in border states spouting this vitriol, we have the president doing so.

Is this what you people wanted when you voted for a disrupter? Is this what you people are cheering when you praise Donny for "telling it like it is"?

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Ohio? Texas?

That too, I know for a fact a lot of this anger that is sizzling in the country stems from our open borders and that no matter what, the Democrats will not do anything to stop it completely or slow it down to extreme small numbers and to send law breakers back and as long as this situation continues, I do believe more is to come.

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avid Trump supporter?

He was not an "avid Trump supporter" He was anti politician as he hated both the left and the right. That was his reasoning behind the attack. He wanted to take matters into his own hands.

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Exactly what the manifesto said. He actually went out of his way to tell us the media would paint him as white nationalist Trump supporter. Clearly said that’s not true.

Ohio shooter, doesn’t fit the narrative so by tomorrow will be like it never happened.

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Gun massacres in Alamo-twisted Texas come as no surprise, but what if there were some momentum from this tragedy in El Paso after loose cannon Trump does one of his famed flip-flops and takes the lead for once to spearhead some sorely needed gun control legislation? After all, the only consolation we can take from this so far disastrous presidency is that the doofus at the helm is so unpredictable, even a sliver of good might unintentionally slip out from his shaky grasp on reality. The question that intrigues me is what role does his immigrant spouse play behind the throne? Could Melania move to use her redoubtable womanpower to force her hen-pecked hubby's hand?

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Trump says hate has no place in the country, ignoring that every mass murder since 2016 has been a Republican.

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Except Ohio yesterday.

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And the Colorado one. And....others.

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He was not an "avid Trump supporter" He was anti politician as he hated both the left and the right.

Yeah, we know that, rational people know that, but tell that to CNN, msnbc, NYT and the rest of the msm. Telling the obvious truth doesn’t help their ratings or narratives. Bernie wasn’t responsible for that idiot trying to kill Republicans, even though he was a Bernie supporter. Lay the responsibility on the person that pulled the trigger.

That was his reasoning behind the attack. He wanted to take matters into his own hands.

Yup, the monster.

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4 mass shootings, 83 dead and 512 injured under Trump.

Four? There have been like four in the past month. Two in the past 48 hours.

Seems you have some weird numbers there.

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The Ohio one supports Elizabeth Warren for President. Guess she changed parties yesterday.

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That too, I know for a fact a lot of this anger that is sizzling in the country stems from our open borders and that no matter what, the Democrats will not do anything to stop it completely or slow it down to extreme small numbers and to send law breakers back and as long as this situation continues, I do believe more is to come.

This only has a basis in the unhinged, conspiracy-driven world of conservatives.

Notive how it's democrats and their alleged love of open borders fueling the anger and not Donny and his ignorant supporters spouting vitriol and blaming everyone for their numerous shortcomings. Hyperpartisanship at its finest.

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Does it matter?

Um, you brought it up, now you're asking if it matters. I don't know, does it? If it doesn't, why did you bring it up in the first place?

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That too, I know for a fact a lot of this anger that is sizzling in the country stems from our open borders and that no matter what, the Democrats will not do anything to stop it completely or slow it down to extreme small numbers and to send law breakers back and as long as this situation continues, I do believe more is to come.

There have always been people with the "send them back" mindset. America, Australia, New Zealand, England... It's nothing new. What is new is a leader who stokes that fire. That's where Trump is responsible. He's been pushing that. More might come and if that is the reason then he is responsible for those too.... and when it isn't illegal but legal immigrants who are bearing the brunt of the attacks... that's showing racism because people will be targeted just for looking like they come from somewhere else. This is why he needs to act more responsibly. Not the Dems. Trump. If he doesn't, he'll forever be seen as racist.

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"Clearly Donald Trump does not want anybody shooting down innocent people," Sanders said

A Democrat speaking the truth.

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 I know for a fact a lot of this anger that is sizzling in the country stems from our open borders 

These people wouldn't be so riled up unless somebody was stoking their anger. And you know who is doing it. Trump 'n' Fox 'n' Little Friends.

"These are really people that are very, very seriously mentally ill."

Yes, Trump and his white nationalist supporters are very, very seriously mentally ill.

But he offered no specifics, except to say he would make a statement on Monday morning.

Rest up after a hard weekend of golf, Donny.

“This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”

--Donald J. Trump, January, 2017

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Readers, please control your emotions.

Said the King of hate.

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A Democrat speaking the truth.

Sure, this kind of thing has zero positive effect for Trump insofar as retaining power, so of course he doesn't want these mass shootings to happen. That doesn't change the fact that his speech is stoking an environment of hatred and anger. Look at the El Paso shooting - this guy wrote up an anti immigrant manifesto, and drove something like 6 or 9 hours to a border town.

Trump may not want this, just as pro-second amendment people don't want this. That doesn't change the fact that this is a natural result of the things they do want.

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https://www.thoughtco.com/obama-gun-laws-passed-by-congress-3367595

obama was actually weak on gun control just strong on complaining/blaming when something happened.

in some cases he even expanded gun rights.

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But using your line of thinking, it would be the dems' refusal to stop illegal immigration that would force him "to take matters into his own hands".

Well, that's the exact kind of thing the 'pubs said for eight years during the Obama administration. So what exactly changed?

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The reason America is a such a mess is bad guns, and because Donald Trump is a racist, he refuses to let Democrats take all of America's guns. Whoopie for all of America's gun owners with bad guns.

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Once again the Trumpers close their eyes and close ranks to protect their sainted one - the one that traffics in hate and division. Sure, someone who says some Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are "very fine people" isn't doing anything to ferment violence and hate... What a crock.

And the disenfranchised white males that sit all day long listening to the even more hate-filled rhetoric on Fox News and the other right wing hate machines decide to internalize that hate and act...so they go to their armories in their basements and haul out an assault weapon with a 100 round magazine and head to the closest Walmart, or theater, or elementary school.

Fact: Of the 10 most deadly mass shootings since 1949, four have occurred from 2017 to present. There's a reason for that - and that reason resides in the White House...

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/14/health/parkland-among-deadliest-mass-shootings-trnd/index.html

And the spineless Repubs will do nothing to upset their NRA Masters...

Democratic leaders in Congress responded to the pair of shootings with a call for action. They urged Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to hold an emergency session to debate gun control legislation. McConnell’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Moscow Mitch again Missing in Action...

If we want common sense gun control, we have to vote out every Repub from dog catcher to the White House... Let's get started.

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Asy access to firearms + a smattering of extreme loony views = what we see in the US.  This could happen from either wing of politics or from emotional or other distress or whatever.  and it does.

Blaming DT for this is silly.  And claiming he "stokes hatred" is also silly.  If you look at how Antifa deals with its opponents it is quite clear that the strong feelings in US "politics" exist on both sides of the divide.  Just occasionally these gun toting nut jobs lose the plot.

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It turns out that the Dayton shooter was against Trump and was a socialist who tweeted "kill every fascist" before going on his rampage.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/04/dayton-shooter-leftist-elizabeth-warren-fan/

Stop blaming Trump, people. These mass shootings have been going on in America (and, yes, other countries) for decades. Whoever the president is at the time has nothing to do with it.

Anyone who tries to attribute the Dayton or El Paso shootings to Trump is worse than an idiot. He/She is disgustingly exploiting other people's suffering to advance their own politics.

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It turns out that the Dayton shooter was against Trump, was a socialist, and who tweeted something about killing everyone who he considered a "fascist."

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/04/dayton-shooter-leftist-elizabeth-warren-fan/

Stop blaming Trump. These mass shootings have been happening in America (and other countries) for decades. Many decades. Long before Trump ever even became famous, let alone became president.

Stop exploiting others' suffering to disgustingly demonize elected officials who you don't like.

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@Mr. Noidall

Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders. I think this guy was insane and responsible for his own actions. 

@Blacklabel

obama was actually weak on gun control just strong on complaining/blaming when something happened.

in some cases he even expanded gun rights.

He tried to do something about it but Moscow Mitch blocked him at every turn.

“This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”

--Donald J. Trump, January, 2017

Obama never claimed he could miraculously stop this. Your orange boy brought criticism on himself when he promised to stop it.

LOL! How is that working out?

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@Noid--The border--not boarder--is open for commerce, travel, personal visits, and so on. Many Americans stay in Mexico part or all of the year. Only the clueless treat the border--remember no a--in partisan terms.

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There were 24 mass shootings during Obama's presidency.

And with few on-the-fringe exceptions, I don't recall anyone blaming him for them.

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@Jenni Scheibel

There were 24 mass shootings during Obama's presidency.

And with few on-the-fringe exceptions, I don't recall anyone blaming him for them.

Pres. Obama didn’t encourage white supremacy, nor did Pres. Obama engage in stochastic terrorism. We have to use our brains!

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During the combined presidencies of Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton, and GW Bush, there were a total of 23 mass shootings in America -- resulting in 218 deaths.

During Obama's presidency alone, there were 24 mass shootings resulting in 236 deaths.

I don't remember any blame for this being affixed to Obama -- at least not to anything near the level of vitriol as we see now being slung at Trump.

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I wonder if the republican held congress passed Obamas gun reforms would we be seeing these shootings still?

I have no doubt you would 100% because if there’s a demand, there will be market, so it wouldn’t have helped from any President. Again, taking away guns is not the answer-ever. But looking into better ways of mentally evaluating people, that might be something more reasonable to do

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@Jenni Scheibel

It turns out that the Dayton shooter was against Trump, was a socialist, and who tweeted something about killing everyone who he considered a "fascist."

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/04/dayton-shooter-leftist-elizabeth-warren-fan/

Yeah, let's use the "Redstate" a bias source. Not much credibility there.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/ohio-shooting-connor-betts-identified-police-dayton-gunman/1916170001/

Everyone can agree that this a "White male issue"!

How should we deal with this "White on White crime" epidemic?

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Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders. I think this guy was insane and responsible for his own actions. But using your line of thinking, it would be the dems' refusal to stop illegal immigration that would force him "to take matters into his own hands".

I definitely agree with that.

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The fact that those constantly throwing their hatred onto others, whether it be the president or anyone else that doesn’t agree with them, all while claiming to be the representatives of love and virtue have just in my humble opinion completely lost the plot.

The cultural war has become a psychological one, people projecting their own inner demons onto others. It’s really sad to watch. Trust me people, you ain’t half as good as you think you are. Those claiming to be are the most deluded and the most dangerous.

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Meanwhile, the House passed HR 8 in March. This bill establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties and has had no action from the Moscow Mitch "Turtle" McConnell led Senate. 

S894 was introduced in the senate in April "To authorize dedicated domestic terrorism offices within the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to analyze and monitor domestic terrorist activity and require the Federal Government to take steps to prevent domestic terrorism." It too sits in the Moscow Mitch "Turtle" McConnell leg senate with no action since April. 

Some, but not all states have passed "Red Flag" laws which allow a family member or police to petition a judge to remove guns from individuals who pose a threat to themselves or others. 

We have seen no action on this from the republican controlled Senate despite the attempts by the democratic controlled House. Republicans have zero solutions and are only capable of obstructing.

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The Dems aren't refusing to stop illegal immigration, they are refusing to dehumanize other human beings.

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No firearms = no firearm violence. Sure, taking away the firearms is not the answer.

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Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders. I think this guy was insane and responsible for his own actions. But using your line of thinking, it would be the dems' refusal to stop illegal immigration that would force him "to take matters into his own hands".

Exactly. The right-wing fake news MSM bubble riled him up on a fake news issue that Trump exploited to convince the morons to vote for him,m. All you people who defend their lies bear some responsibility for this.

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Easiest way for Trump to start taking care of hate would be to quit his job and step out of the limelight, including getting off Twitter. Trump is the biggest LEADER of hatred in the world right now, and many of the white shooters cite him as an inspiration for what they are doing.

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Funny thing, it is never terrorism until the shooter calls out Allah, but if it is a white guy with a Nazi manifesto inspired by Trump, it is just a crazy. Funny, the GOP will never ever call a white guy a terrorist.

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Amazing how the white guy who kills 30 people is never ever called a terrorist, but a brown guy yelling Allah is. Funny that.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Blaming DT for these is ridiculous.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders

There are more illegal crossings under Trump than Obama. Also, they will just use ladders to go over Trump's wall anyway. Trump is a loser with immigration. Look at the numbers. Also, Reagan gave out 3M green cards in the 80s. When did President Hillary ever do a thing like that.

who's in the White house.

Trump promotes it. Proof:

Trump Laughs When Supporter Calls For Illegal Immigrants To Be Shot At The Border

(news quote)

The Trump person listened and shot them in Walmart.

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Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders

There are more illegal crossings under Trump than Obama. Also, they will just use ladders to go over Trump's wall anyway. Trump is a loser with immigration. Look at the numbers. Also, Reagan gave out 3M green cards in the 80s. When did President Hillary ever do a thing like that.

who's in the White house.

Trump promotes it. Proof:

Trump Laughs When Supporter Calls For Illegal Immigrants To Be Shot At The Border

(news quote)

The Trump person listened and shot them in Walmart.

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Trump: 'Hate has no place in our country, and we're going to take care of it'

Coming from the guy stoking the vast majority of this hate, those words mean exactly nothing. He's been fueling white supremacy since the day he took office. He is the last person to preach that hate has no place in the US, or to claim that he or his cabinet will do anything at all about it.

Perhaps Trump needs to take a look at the Facebook profile of the El Paso gunman. Specifically the photo where the gunman spelled out Trump's name in firearms. This wasn't due to mental illness or video games, as Trump and his followers love to blame. This was down to Trump, and the GOP's insistance upon selling its soul to the NRA. Mitch McConnell himself blocked two common sense gun safety laws just recently. Just in time for these mass shooting to take place. But we've come to expect that from Moscow Mitch, who has also been blocking bills on election security, leaving America's election system wide open to Russian interference. Again.

You want to take care of it? Well, that's pretty easy to do. Stop blocking gun safety laws. Stop being bought out by the NRA. Hold the NRA accountable for these mass shootings. They are complicit. By buying out senators and even the President, the NRA are technically guilty of Aiding and Abetting. They need to be held accountable and be forced to pay reparations to the families of every mass shooting victim since the NRA's founding. Lastly, the US citizens need to stop voting in people who only offer "thoughts and prayers" and start voing in politicians who will actually do something. Until these things happen, mass shootings will carry on, day in, day out.

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This from a person who hates all NON-WHITE SKIN PERSONS.

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trump uses reverse truths as a tool, so does this make trump a tool?

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first way to eliminate some the hate is for him to resign

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I believe that Mr. Trump is more capricious than malicious. He is completely wrapped up in himself and doesn't seem to understand the consequences of his actions. Research has proved that the erstwhile Chinese curse about living in interesting times never really existed, but if it had, these would definitely be those times.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#2019

> 4 mass shootings, 83 dead and 512 injured under Trump.

Wow, where do you get your numbers from? There have been 20 mass shootings in the US in 2019 ALONE with over 200 casualties as well! (Including over 80 deaths!)

And if you look at the actual list and data, they have been INCREASING in frequency under Trump and his policies.

Is Trump directly responsible for them? One could argue from either side that he is, or he isnt. However, one can say with ALL certainty that Trump IS guilty of pouring gasoline onto the fire with his public comments regarding people of color and of different religions and ethnic backgrounds!

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Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration, the dems are for open boarders. I think this guy was insane and responsible for his own actions.

Oh, Mr. Noidall, (by the way, what is your Russian name?)....you do REALIZE that Trump had the House and Senate for TWO YEARS, and nothing seemed to change on that there border. Huh? For a guy that says, "The buck stops here!" I kind of think that the GOP doesn't want things to change so that they can continually use this as a wedge issue and to stoke up hate for the Democrats. I mean....if the border issue was solved and ZERO border crossings (legal or otherwise) [and maybe we can stop this here intermarriage between the races too], what would the racists rant about then? I mean....besides gays, women, and ....the disabled?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#2019

4 mass shootings, 83 dead and 512 injured under Trump.*

Wow, where do you get your numbers from? There have been 20 mass shootings in the US in 2019 ALONE with over 200 casualties as well! (Including over 80 deaths!)

And if you look at the actual list and data, they have been INCREASING in frequency under Trump and his policies.

Is Trump directly responsible for them? One could argue from either side that he is, or he isnt. However, one can say with ALL certainty that Trump IS guilty of pouring gasoline onto the fire with his public comments regarding people of color and of different religions and ethnic backgrounds!

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Trump would remove a lot of hate if he resigned...

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Yeah this isn't Trump's fault, but he'll take hits because he's in charge right now. That's all. There is a huge problem to do with the legislature and most of us know what it is but when confronted with it there are still a large amount of people who don't even want to talk about it.

Yeah about that... https://youtu.be/C9AXGPo1vvM.  Yea, he is part of the problem. You can try to explain away all you want Mr. Trump, blame it on  Mental illness. Its not! Its Terrorism! And the fact is people are acting out on your rhetoric and your political views. To his supporters... Have we learned nothing from WWII Nazi Germany? What's it going to take? When will you draw the line on defending this idiot? When?! 

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Trump is partly to blame…. check out one of his rallys: https://youtu.be/C9AXGPo1vvM

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With these shootings, anyone can see hate exists very much in America, Hate had escalated with trump. That's for sure.

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The demagoguery that is the center of Trump’s strategy..

Demagoguery is a manipulative approach — often associated with dictators and sleazy politicians — that appeals to the worst nature of people. Demagoguery isn't based on reason, issues, and doing the right thing; it's based on stirring up fear and hatred to control people. For example, a politician who stirs up a fear of immigrants to distract from other issues is using demagoguery. Demagoguery is one of the most negative aspects of politics, but it's also one that's all too common.

..has very much defined with nationalism, lack of gun control, prejudice, racism and manipulative views where his base locks into his narrative and believes in his words, whether right or wrong. It very much follows that the El Paso gun men was a Trump, white nationalist type of individual who harbored hate toward immigrants. If nothing else, Trump has made it all right to hate, so his words to not hate completely lack credibility. I don’t t believe he doesn’t hate and no one without hate themselves could possibly believe Trump, who’s action AND words continually defy benevolence.

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Don't put the blame on mental illness. There are mentally ill people in every country, yet there isn't this alarming amount of mass-shootings in every country. That certainly can't be the only issue.

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. I think this guy was insane and responsible for his own actions

Bit of a contradiction there?

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Donny is an ignorant moron, which is why he is able to connect with his base so well.

Orange Man Bad, Chipper, you better have some doctor take a look at that TDS, it could kill ya with all that hate building up. It really is getting old and very boring.

Some of the statements by you TDS infected people need to be at least based in reality with facts to back it up. Post some real links, transcriptions in order to get the full context which is always missing from the TDS infected, yet all I still see is Orange Man Bad. I digress, posting real hard facts around here gets thumbs down from the infected. LOL Orange Man Bad..ummm..

At least Trump didn't kill close to 60,000 Americans like LBJ and company, or become a War Criminal like Bush and Chenny, or bomb a country like Libya and turn it into a battle ground like Obama and company, although I'm kinda waiting for him to bomb Iran perhaps. Again I digress, you gotta stop all that hate, it'll just hurt you.

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Words have consequences. Trump has not created this hate

If Trump "created this hate" by words, then how about all the virulent anti-Trump hate from the corporate media and the Trump haters? From dreams of assassination to photo ops with with bloody Trump heads to the daily cackle of "Donny is a moron" nada nada on this site? So that hate is OK then?

Or is there suddenly a completely different rule?

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Donny is an ignorant moron

....so Donny gets criticized for words (typically misquoted by the way), but the constant anti-Trump hate speech like this is all A-OK? Double standards anyone?

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So lemme see... hate speech is bad, except with it is anti-Trump hate speech, in which case it is A-OK. Did I learn my lesson correctly?

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This is all Trump's fault, he won't let the Democrats take all our bad guns away. He needs to be impeached, but the Democrats don't seem to have the balls to do it. What gives?

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This is all Trump's fault, he won't let the Democrats take all our bad guns away. He needs to be impeached but the Democrats don't have the balls to do it. What gives?

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