Trump accuses Google of promoting negative news articles, hiding fair media coverage of him

"If government tried to dictate the free speech 

then the US would become like China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and other states run by authoritarian regimes. But that's what Trump seems to be pushing for.

Not a good day to be Larry Kudlow. Another version of the article described a reporter asking him for examples of bias, and he demurred, saying "That's above my pay grade" - implicitly blaming the president.

Lieu is correct: American courts will not allow the US to become China. At any rate, Trump can't be serious with this. He is simply trying to distract from his own crises.

While I first laughed at this, I am actually worried. Trump now not only erodes the media, but also how one will find news about him. No he has not done action as of yet, but I suddenly feel very much reminded of how the Chinese government censors the internet.

For me he is again slowly chipping away and establishes new norms and that should chill everyone to the core...

When all one can do is act like a spoiled man-child, degrade the office that they inhabit, and diminish the country, then yeah, a lot of the news in your name is going to be negative, Cadet Bonespurs.

The truth about Donald Trump is not conservative or liberal. It is the truth.

And the truth is that Donald Trump runs the most corrupt, least effective, most dishonorable White House since the Nixon era, if not more.

President Trump is right. To see an example of the bias, do a search on identical political terms in Google, DDG, Bing, and Yahoo. The Google returns will favor more leftist media than the others.

President Trump is right. To see an example of the bias, do a search on identical political terms in Google, DDG, Bing, and Yahoo. The Google returns will favor more leftist media than the others.

Interesting. Google is of course a tech company rather than a news company primarily and its well established that the vast majority of tech companies lean heavily left, mostly because they rely on immigrant labor from places like India and China.

To see an example of the bias, do a search on identical political terms in Google, DDG, Bing, and Yahoo.

Next he'll be ordering McDonalds to go vegetarian. If you don't like your Google search engine results, as cla68 pointed out, you have many other choices. (And who Googles news anyway?)

Google's been doing this for years, it's easily confirmed and nothing new. but I love when Trump points it out, it becomes unbelievable.

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

President Trump is right. To see an example of the bias, do a search on identical political terms in Google, DDG, Bing, and Yahoo. The Google returns will favor more leftist media than the others.

Correlation does not equal causation.

GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE IS NOW FOR MONEY AND NOT SEARCH

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What Trump is saying is the google search algorithm is biased which is true. But it might be a naive collective anti-trump effect.

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Why ?

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Because this is a search engine based on our needs and interests. It is actually what might make me leave google. You only find simple results, local results and there is nothing intelligent going out the search engine anymore. This is just advertisement link or none viable one to make you clic on the payed one.

Since this is the highest bidder that get the publicity link, people paying with big money get a favored treatment. The same pattern is use on news.

What should be checked is the number of click on the "most popular link". Today, it is the usual tendance hacking.

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NCM

Check the dates on these articles. Long before Trump mentioned it. Search engines are biased. It's not a conspiracy, just a fact.

http://www.canirank.com/blog/analysis-of-political-bias-in-internet-search-engine-results/

https://studybreaks.com/news-politics/google/

its well established that the vast majority of tech companies lean heavily left, mostly because they rely on immigrant labor from places like India and China.

"But while the tech industry would love to hire more Americans for these positions, there is one simple problem: the United States does not produce enough professionals to fill all of the open high-tech jobs available around the country.

There are almost five open jobs for every software developer who is looking for work, according to Yoh, a talent discovery company. In total, it is believed that about 250,000 computer science jobs alone are available at all times throughout the U.S., said Morgan Reed, executive director of ACT-The App Association. By 2020, it is expected that there will be about 1.4 million computer specialist job openings, but U.S. universities will only be able to produce enough graduates to fill 29 percent of those jobs, according to projections by the U.S. Department of Labor."

https://www.inc.com/salvador-rodriguez/why-tech-needs-immigrants.html

Tech workers from India and China are left leaning, are they? Let's see some data for that, shall we? Or is it just an unfounded denigration of Chinese, Indians, Google, tech workers in general and Google?

"I don't understand technology therefore, it's wrong/biased against me."

Tha'ts basically what his arguement boils down to. Which is funny because it's very easy to prove that he's wrong. But his supporters are just as uninformed as him so they'll take what he says at face value, just like they do with everything else he says.

Trump reminds me of the archetype of his base that he panders to. You know, your racist uncle who doesn't have a clue about half of the stuff he's angry about and blames all of his problems on someone or something else.

grow up Trump, just grow up .....

Why don't conservatives just set up their own search sites? It is not that difficult. And there must be tech-savy millionaire conservatives who could do it.

of promoting negative news articles and hiding "fair media" coverage of him,

Rich coming from the man who’s had The National Enquirer, a bottom rung tabloid owned by his buddy the owner of American Media Inc., publisher of numerous other sleazy rags, hide info about Trump’s paying off housecleaners he’s impregnated. And then there are the other Trump supporting media corporations including Sinclair Media, Murdoch’s global empire and of course Putin’s global empire, and that doesn’t include Breitbart, infowars and dozens of others. Are they ‘fair’?

Trump once again is using the White House to have the government attack a private sector entity; he’s once again using the office of the president to interfere in the market. He's gone after Harley Davidson, Boeing, Nordstrom, Google and others. 

Now he's having the government pay billions to corporate farms (not Ol' MacDonald-type farms) because of his trade war mole-whacking. (But that's primarily cote buying.)

Which authoritarian system is in which the state controls the private sector at the behest of the dictator?

If Trump would release his most current tax info the public might know if he’s doing this to protect his family’s investments.

Let's get Trump a tissue.

Google denied any political bias, saying in a statement that its search engine is "not used to set a political agenda and we don't bias our results toward any political ideology."

Oh really!

Here's a no political bias test: type in "American Inventors" to see how bias they are.

I love all the downvotes for posting links that prove it’s true long before Trump bothered to notice.

Newsflash folks, he’s full of crap a lot, but not everything Trump says is a lie. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to point it out.

@gokai Why don't conservatives just set up their own search sites?

Good question. It could be they lack search skills and are unable to effectively sort through sites to find the info they want.

Is it an age thing? Education level?

Or is it just more rightwing whining.

"But while the tech industry would love to hire more Americans for these positions, there is one simple problem: the United States does not produce enough professionals to fill all of the open high-tech jobs available around the country.

There are almost five open jobs for every software developer who is looking for work, according to Yoh, a talent discovery company. In total, it is believed that about 250,000 computer science jobs alone are available at all times throughout the U.S., said Morgan Reed, executive director of ACT-The App Association. By 2020, it is expected that there will be about 1.4 million computer specialist job openings, but U.S. universities will only be able to produce enough graduates to fill 29 percent of those jobs, according to projections by the U.S. Department of Labor."

https://www.inc.com/salvador-rodriguez/why-tech-needs-immigrants.html

Tech workers from India and China are left leaning, are they? Let's see some data for that, shall we? Or is it just an unfounded denigration of Chinese, Indians, Google, tech workers in general and Google?

I never said it was wrong that tech companies import immigrant labor. As the stats suggests, it may very well be necessary. In my view, that is the main reason why the CEO's, managers and boards lean left because Republicans are more likely to reform the immigration system than the Democrats. That is pretty self evident at this point. Certainly the Trump administration has tinkered with skilled visa's for Indian nationals, primarily in the IT/Tech sector related to unskilled spouses/family members of applicants coming to America, so its no surprise tech companies lean Democrat.

Blaming the mirror for the bad reflection.

President Calimero is at it again...

The best way to avoid all these negative news would be to stop doing so many stupid things !!

I love all the downvotes for posting links that prove it’s true long before Trump bothered to notice. 

Newsflash folks, he’s full of crap a lot, but not everything Trump says is a lie. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to point it out

I’ll go with that, I would say that would be a very fair accusation. But yeah, this has been going on way before Trump came to office.

The best way to avoid all these negative news would be to stop doing so many stupid things !!

That wouldn’t matter one bit, if he even breathed the wrong way the news media will go wild about it, so it doesn’t matter what he does.

Isn't isn't this what news coverage is all about nowadays? especially in the US? That's why most of the world still thinks that the entire continent of Africa is at war?

Cry baby. He created his own fate

Well, this is getting rather routine, isn't it. Another day and another outlandish conspiracy theory from the Great Orange UCC (Unindicted Co-conspirator) - all designed to get the news cycle off his disgraceful treatment of Sen McCain, and the fact his former attorney and the CFO of the Trump Foundation are cooperating with the Special Counsel.  

But it won't be that easy - Vets will remember how he treated one of their own - and no doubt Cohen and Weisselberg are providing facts, documents, and tapes of Russian money laundering, mob ties, conspiracy, obstruction, and collusion. Orangeland is in chaos.

Trump Tomorrow: Obama and Hillary were key figures in the 1969 faked moon landing...and they'll be posters here who will say it's all true...

That wouldn’t matter one bit, if he even breathed the wrong way the news media will go wild about it, so it doesn’t matter what he does.

Sounds like the treatment of President Obama by Fox News.

Well, this is getting rather routine, isn't it. Another day and another outlandish conspiracy theory from the Great Orange UCC (Unindicted Co-conspirator) -

I think Trump whether you like him or not is making a very valid point. I think there is validity to his accusation.

all designed to get the news cycle off his disgraceful treatment of Sen McCain, and the fact his former attorney and the CFO of the Trump Foundation are cooperating with the Special Counsel.  

I don’t think Trump cares one iota about McCain and now that he found that Lonny Davis was caught in a lie is feeling more confident that the left has nothing.

But it won't be that easy - Vets will remember how he treated one of their own -

The vets are not a collective group. Trump not honoring McCain and giving the family his condolences is enough to heal and to show some contrition to the man.

and no doubt Cohen and Weisselberg are providing facts, documents, and tapes of Russian money laundering, mob ties, conspiracy, obstruction, and collusion. Orangeland is in chaos.

Lonny just got caught lying again. Here we go, holes in Mueller’s case. Let’s see if they can find an impeachable crime, let’s watch in amusement how the Senate would never convict this President.

In my view, that is the main reason why the CEO's, managers and boards lean left because Republicans are more likely to reform the immigration system than the Democrats.

I think they lean center-right on fiscal policy issues. Tech companies lie in the center while almost all other companies and corporations lean right.

Same goes for the media. The majority of the media only seems like they're leftist because they're supportive of common sense social issues, which the right has turned into wedge issues decades ago.

Same goes for politicians. If there's one thing the right is good at, it's uniting under a single stance of unhindered corporatism. There's a battle on the left between center-leaning corporatists and leftist democratic socialists.

FarmboyToday  09:51 am JST

What a wonderful picture! It can’t be real, though. It must be a Google app that produces such a bloated, gassy look.

Yes, they must have doctored it so that he looks like he's letting one go.

According to the right-wingers on the site, Google is biased, because the results show a bias. To be clear, what they are saying is that when you perform a search on Google, the outcome is biased towards left-wing ideologies.

The left talks about having quotas for numbers of women or minorities in organizations or the government. The right complains that the left is looking for equality of outcome.

However, in this case, the right is crying for equality of outcome in the search results.

Google is a world-wide search engine, and a commercial entity. Political affiliations do not always align with profit, and as a commercial entity, Google is more interested in making money, than aligning with a political party. On the contrary, aligning with a political party is almost certain to devalue the organization, and therefore extremely unlikely.

Google has always been public with the fact that their search algorithm is designed to bring people the most relevant results to that person, for the current search. If you are signed into Google, you get more personalized results than when not. When you are not signed in, the algorithm looks at things like your location and browser language. But the most important thing is that Google has their algorithm that they are constantly tuning to try to bring the most relevant ideas to people. Therefore, output is biased towards more liberal results, because these results are more often relevant than their political opposites.

What is important in this world is equality of opportunity. Everyone/thing should have the same opportunity. A woman should have as equal an opportunity to get a job as a man. But just the same as a quota of women for a staff is pushing for an equality of output, pushing for equal political bias in search results is pushing for equality of output.

The right can't have it both ways. Either they think there should be equality of output for minorities in jobs, hollywood, and search results, or they think there should be an equality of opportunity in jobs, hollywood and search results. Cherry picking is hypocritical.

Wait, You mean a google search for a president who paid off two pornstars to shut them up about affairs, bragged on tape about molesting women, has lied more than 3000 times on record and acts like an infant turns up bad news? Must be biased, its the only possible explanation.

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

What is wrong with the picture? Trump is an extraordinarily unattractive man, unless they photoshopped Justin Trudeau’s face onto it that is about as flattering as a photo of Trump gets.

CrazyJoeToday  06:53 am JST

While I first laughed at this, I am actually worried.

I wouldn't be. Trump is going no where with this. It's just a distraction from his earlier display of being weak and petty with regard to McCain.

LagunaToday  07:05 am JST

Next he'll be ordering McDonalds to go vegetarian. 

Hah! That'll be the day! Where would he get his "fish delights" then?

Reality has a left-leaning bias.

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday accused Google's search engine of promoting negative news articles and hiding "fair media" coverage of him, vowing to address the situation without providing evidence or giving details of action he might take.

What a lot of deranged, paranoid nonsense. The only reason I can think of for a rational person to support this is being paid to do so.

and its well established that the vast majority of tech companies lean heavily left, mostly because they rely on immigrant labor from places like India and China.

Just get some smart Tech Republicans and make a conservative search engine. What's the problem? There is no monopoly here. You are free to code a server any way you wish. Or are these people from India and China just smarter and white Republicans don't have such high skill to make a search engine? Making a search engine is a lot less complicated than rocker science, and there is proof about that. If Chinese and Indian people can do it then white Conservatives should be able to do it. There is no point griping about it, just build it Trump Conservatives! As Trump likes to say, he can build great things, and this should include a Trump search engine. Maybe call it Troogle, Goomp, or something.

nishikatToday  11:12 am JST

Maybe call it Troogle, Goomp, or something.

I like "Goomp". Catchy.

nishikatToday  11:12 am JST

Just get some smart Tech Republicans and make a conservative search engine.

You mean like they did when a far-right, dominionist, American exceptionalist got angry that the reality on Wikipedia didn't reflect his extreme ideology, so he created "Conservapedia"?

It should be a giant red flag when conservative ideology is so extreme that its adherents can't tell the difference between neutral information and ideologically-opposed information. Unfortunately, this is how we got the low-information voters who gave us Trumpism- conservative ideologues constantly accusing reality of having a liberal bias when it doesn't reflect their views, and then walling themselves off in echo-chambers where the only truth that's allowed is their ideology. No wonder it's such a fertile ground for feeding supporters of authoritarianism.

Extanker

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

I suppose we could say the same about Trump....Haha

Heavily left IS the Democratic Party in the U.S and increasingly so.

If you mean the left is taking back the party from centrists, yes, it's increasing. The majority of the party establishment is still very center though. Dem voters on the other hand are moving faster left, so hopefully the party will follow.

They embrace socialism for heavens sake lol.

Socialism is the compromise between capitalism and communism. The US has always been socialist, the argument is really the degree of public vs private, and everyone embraces the public aid that benefits them.

The left simply wants to extend public benefits to things like medicare for all, living wages, and education, while the right wants to privatize things like prisons for profit. Even then, private prisons receive government incentives from the state.

Government bailouts, disaster relief, and the post office whose service is more vital to rural areas, are all examples of "socialism" that the right is more than willing to accept while at the same time decrying socialism.

The days of the moderate left leaning liberal, the classical liberal, in the Democratic Party are as dead as a dodo.

What is your definition of a "classical liberal"? In my view, they're the old-school liberals that wanted to expand socialist benefits to everyone as I mentioned above, even at the expense of the unnecessarily super rich. They're not dying, they're coming back from the dead.

Extanker

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

If he's going to make faces like that when there are cameras around he has no one to blame but himself.

2 things.

Never Google yourself.  Only paion lies therein.

If the algorithms are designed to show you your preferences based on previous searches, what does that say about either DT's previous searches or the dearth of positive news about him?

I think Trump whether you like him or not is making a very valid point. I think there is validity to his accusation.

Clearly you haven't thought this through at all. In the absence of any proof, what validates his point?

Trump not honoring McCain.... is enough to heal and to show some contrition to the man.

Only for people like Trump and his loyal acolytes

let’s watch in amusement how the Senate would never convict this President.

Maybe COULD but won't - until after the mid-term restructuring of the Senate.

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

This is a difficult one for me. On one hand, I feel that even though Donald Trump is willing to take the low road all the time, the rest of us need to be adults and take the high road because that's the right thing to do.

On the other hand, I can't deny that I enjoy pics like the one in this article (which gave me a small laugh when I saw it), and if Trump can dish it, then he should dig it too. He makes up names for everyone (Crooked Hillary, Lyin' Ted etc), and he makes up fake video tapes of adult videos that don't exist, so he's and his folk are not really in a position to be complaining when pictures like this do get used.

But really, it's become clear that we can't expect Trump and his zealots to be the adults in the room, so if we don't do it, then no one will. And therefore better not to use pictures like the one in this thread.

Now that said, what I'm unclear on is whether the picture was selected by JT, or whether it comes from the original Thomson Reuters article.

bass4funkToday  08:23 am JST

I love all the downvotes for posting links that prove it’s true long before Trump bothered to notice. 

Newsflash folks, he’s full of crap a lot, but not everything Trump says is a lie. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to point it out

I’ll go with that, I would say that would be a very fair accusation.

OUCH. That must have hurt to admit.

If Trump thinks Google et al. are bad, wait until he sees the history books.

That 'Trump dotard', 'Trump impeach', 'Trump covfefe', "Trump porn actress' etc were/are indeed very popular google searches is no one's fault but his own.

I just googled "Trump accuses Google". The top three stories were ABC, WSJ, and CNBC. The top three videos were CNBC, Bloomberg, and Fox. That doesn't seem like repression of conservative voices to me.

Trump should stop whining and do what he was elected to do (or maybe that is what he was elected to do).

As much as I oppose the orange man, he does have a point.

google used to rank searches by how many people searched and how many people clicked a link, I have no political opinion, but maybe the algorithm are just showing the links people click the most.

Burning BushToday  07:25 am JST

Google's algorithms of course can be very easily manipulated.

Anybody who believes that they are pure, fair and unbiased is a naive fool.

Anybody who believes that anything Trump says is true, fair and unbiased is a naive fool.

nostromoToday  07:36 am JST

grow up Trump, just grow up .....

Sadly, that ship has long ago sailed into the sunset and disappeared over the horizon.

I found the original (and now updated) Reuter's article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tech/white-house-probes-google-after-trump-accuses-it-of-bias-idUSKCN1LD1I1?utm_source=34553&utm_medium=partner

Not clear if the image in this article came from that or not. The one there isn't much less unflattering.

I think this photo complements the tone and content of his whining on this occasion. His face looks like a spanked backside.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to point it out.

true it right for 2 seconds of each day the other 86398 second its wrong

Anybody who believes that anything Trump says is true, fair and unbiased is a naive fool.

Trump thinks that algorithms are biased against him. "Fake math!"

If Trump thinks Google et al. are bad, wait until he sees the history books.

No need to wait, numerous books have already been published, since he became POTUS, exposing him for the rotten, incompetent individual he is and the damage he is doing to his own country.

However, according to sources close to him, Trump's reading/comprehension level is only that of a 10-12 year old so, unless there are lots of pictures used, most of it will probably go over his head.

It is very possible to be negative and fair about Trump at the same time. In fact the two are synonymous.

Google's algorithms of course can be very easily manipulated.

Of course - it's called SEO. It's a HUGE industry. Google's algorithm does not discriminate by political affiliation. Right-wing sites with good SEO will score high on the search results for the key words they target, same as left-wing sites with good SEO will score high on the search results for the key words they target.

People are constantly claiming that JT moderators are biased right wing or left wing, but as far as 'manipulating' the search engines, this site does well with the term 'Japan news' (results through an anonymous browser and a VPN).

The point though is that Google is equal opportunity. Google does not publicize specifics of their algorithm (or when they do, it's public). They do provide a standard however, which sites can choose to follow or ignore, but when followed provides better results in search rankings. This because your site is Optimized (the O in SEO) for the Search Engines (the SE). What you call 'manipulation', Google calls 'speaking our language so we know what you are talking about'. Kind of how we all post on JT in English, even though English isn't the first language of a significant number of posters on the site, enabling us to all communicate and understand what each other are talking about.

I think they lean center-right on fiscal policy issues.

ROFL! Now that was hilarious!

Tech companies lie in the center while almost all other companies and corporations lean right. 

All of the CEOs are liberal, all of them.

Same goes for the media. The majority of the media only seems like they're leftist because they're supportive of common sense social issues, which the right has turned into wedge issues decades ago.

I can tell you without a shred of doubt 95% of the media is liberal, it has always been liberal and most of the Liberals have to strongest voice on TV and in print and now online.

Same goes for politicians. If there's one thing the right is good at, it's uniting under a single stance of unhindered corporatism. There's a battle on the left between center-leaning corporatists and leftist democratic socialists.

What are you talking about? The Republican party as well as the Democratic Party are now splintered and so off-base this is the reason why both of them have become totally irrelevant especially when you look at the Republican Party, all these rhinos are so outdated and there is just no way the people vote for them in their current state. The new wave is populism and more power to the people unless of the old running no nation building warmongering Bunch.

GoodlucktoyouToday  12:24 pm JST

As much as I oppose the orange man, he does have a point.

And his point is?

I can tell you without a shred of doubt 95% of the media is liberal, it has always been liberal and most of the Liberals have to strongest voice on TV and in print and now online.

So then the search results make sense.

plasticmonkeyToday  12:23 pm JST

I just googled "Trump accuses Google"

I just googled 'I'd rather be Russian than Democrat' and at the time the first sites listed were Vox, Snopes and Amazon.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=nReGW-6ED5Dr-QbwzYu4Aw&q=i%27d+rather+be+russian+than+democrat&oq=%22I%27d+rather+be+Russia&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l10.8024.17519.0.20214.21.21.0.0.0.0.95.1790.21.21.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.20.1725....0.Ep30pgjnsic

"So then the search results make sense.

Yes. If you believe in a one-sided partisan myopic point of view.

For somebody who never uses a computer and who refers to an iPad as "the flat one", Trump sure knows a lot about internet search algorithms.

All of the CEOs are liberal, all of them.

You have some data for that assertion? Try Google.

He is right, Google, Facebook, Twitter are all left wing liberal biased NEGATIVE media, why have they not reported on anything positive on the stock exchange or anything else Trump has provided.

Where are the ALTERNATIVE search engines? Excite, Altavista, Askjeeves, Lycos, where are they?? Bing is rubbish, Yahoo uses Google's algorithm

Bass: Yes. If you believe in a one-sided partisan myopic point of view.

No I mean the statistical part. If 95% of the news media is liberal then it would make sense that a vast majority of the search results would be from a liberal source.

A bit early for Halloween, but that lantern sure looks like him!

Where are ALTERNATIVES TO GOOGLE and co??

Theyre agenda is just to destroy any open thought on anything, wake up and smell the coffee son

@kenji Where are the ALTERNATIVE search engines?

Rightwingers who'd rather be Russian than Democrat could use yandex. Another site for those favoring authoritarianism is China's baidu.

Lots of alternatives. That's another great thing about the internet.

@PTownsend

Again this is not about Right or Left per se, but just one direction, one voice to every single opinion, not only about Trump, but every single news out there, everything seems to sound the same. Creating a zombie mentality of the masses, why can no one have alternative views, do we have to limit ourselves to one particular train of thought, sounds like a cult like or hidden agenda by the powers that are ..

Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVgDLDNp5w

@Matt Hartwell

Yep, Googles algorithm just steers the viewer to that biased content, so in reality, they must be all working together, cause it is the same content coming out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVgDLDNp5w

@kenji why can no one have alternative views

Are you referring to China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia?

@PTownsendT

Err no.. where exactly did I state that? all I am saying is there is always two sides to a story, you can just be biased and judgemental and assume these media corporations are the pinnacle of honesty.. at the end of the days these media companies are making money off your clicks

Kenji FujimoriToday  01:22 pm JST

...all I am saying is there is always two sides to a story.

So, just to be clear, what's the other side to Trumps story?

@Gremlin.Gaijin

The truth, the medias one sided bias was to make Clinton win and get all salty that she lost

Brilliant - the right has managed to elect the least qualified candidate in history, at least in part through the extraordinary amount of media coverage he received during the campaign, and this fool sees bias AGAINST him!

There is a very simple way to make conservative sources appear higher up in search rankings. Search more often, look at the second page of results, and click on the ones that appeal. Miraculously those sites will rise up in the rankings and will appear more frequently. That's not bias, that's customer choice.

You have some data for that assertion? Try Google.

That's the problem, you just made my point for me....again.

So, just to be clear, what's the other side to Trumps story?

Opposite from the liberals myopic viewed stories.

It is not about Trump at all, they were always negative to the right towards Bush and co also..

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday accused Google's search engine of promoting negative news articles and hiding "fair media" coverage of him,

Noted. Tell your low info followers to use Bing or some other search engine. Then stop the whining.

The Federal Communications Commission ceded jurisdiction over regulating online communications when it repealed its net neutrality rules.

Doh!

Quoting Colbert? Better to quote Rosie O'Donnell at least she's funny.....somewhat...

Colbert's comment is very apropos, and I note you don't deny the truth: reality has a liberal bias.

I'm unfamiliar with Ms. O'Donnell's work, but by all means quote her, you seem to be a fan.

Google, Social Media companies, Media companies MAKE MONEY OFF OF CONTENT, how else are they still in BUSINESS, oh yes they ARE A BUSINESS!

Kenji FujimoriToday  01:35 pm JST

@Gremlin.Gaijin

The truth, the medias one sided bias was to make Clinton win and get all salty that she lost

You do realise that Trump has been proven to be liar on more than 3000 occasions, don't you?

Fallacy and garbage sells, yet how much have you read about how the stock market is more valuable under Trumps leadership compared to Obama?

@Gremlin.Gaijin

Again, the same media companies if they constantly say the sky is actually pink on multiple platforms, you would believe the fallacy easily?

@Gremlin.Gaijin

Please Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVgDLDNp5w

and then tell me your thoughts.

bass4funkToday  02:07 pm JST

You have some data for that assertion? Try Google.

That's the problem, you just made my point for me....again.

Duck and weave, duck and weave,....

So, just to be clear, what's the other side to Trumps story?

Opposite from the liberals myopic viewed stories.

And that is?

You do realise that Trump has been proven to be liar on more than 3000 occasions, don't you?

Oh, if only the media would track the lies of the left, I don't think that many zeros really exist.

Duck and weave, duck and weave,....

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!

Unfortunatly Yahoo Japan is a sell out to Googles algorithm, Masayoshi Son the softbank Korean King.. is the one who brought Yahoo to Japan actually.

Why are you all defending Google?? they record all your search history, gmail, youtube, your phone address book (if you use Android) and everything you do thats in connection to their companies and then resells your data for profit.

bass4funkToday  02:39 pm JST

You do realise that Trump has been proven to be liar on more than 3000 occasions, don't you?

Oh, if only the media would track the lies of the left, I don't think that many zeros really exist.

But the fact remains, the words TRUTH and TRUMP are mutually exclusive

Duck and weave, duck and weave,....

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!

And miss your mark every time.

Oh really!

Here's a no political bias test: type in "American Inventors" to see how bias they are.

I did this and got a list of American inventors? Like, no-one was a Russian inventor, or an American plumber, just a lot of American inventors. Could you explain your problem?

While so many comments seem to be under the fantasy Google isn't skewing search results, the reality is it's beyond just trump and it's been going on for years. While so many enjoy ignorance in their newspeak world of truth ministries powered by media, Hollywood and silicon valley anyone, who spends a half hour search for positive and negative information about what is Left wing or right, will find, negative, about leftists basicalltnot showing uo on page 1 of a, search result, while positive stories about the left wing are always the first results. Right wing will find the opposite is true. Pic the topic, person, story or scandal of political or ideological interest and Google's search results will skew with a positive bias to the socialist left wing and a negative bias to the right. This, has been going on since bush, even more so for tge, 'Saint who can do no wrong' Obama and it's even worse now. Pic the topic and and the insanity of the left, wing is, always shown positive and above the fold. They havn't outright blocked content yet. Search results page 2 or 3 might have the desired story.

Well, I think Trump should start his own search engine company - I mean, he has enough Russian oligarch money he is laundering to pay for it, or I'm sure his bud (and Shadow Campaign Manager) Vlad the Great would loan him the money...and a few pointers on how to run it.

I'd suggest he name it "Tangerine" - and if you type in Donald Trump, it would come up with the following;

World's best and most faithful husband...

America's most truthful President...

Unifier, not Divider...

Supplants Bill Clinton as America's first Black President...Destroyer of the KKK...

War hero...Medal of Honor Recipient...

Said of Hillary Clinton "Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman,” he told Greta Van Susteren. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard."   Wait, wait - that last one is true, pull it....

Use: http://duckduckgo.com/

It is a new search engine and it does not record your search results

@kenji

Duck is not new, it's been around for years.

Euronews just had a report on this and they quoted the same Google response as above. They questioned and researched where Trump got his 96% number, but of course they didn't challenge or fact check Googles press release.

No political agenda eh Google?? Then why when I type in "American Inventors" are roughly 95% of the pics you chose to showcase are black inventors? The next Black History Month isn't until January 2019.

I already knew this but I went ahead and just did a Google search for "Trump News." Good grief, looking at the first 3 pages of sites, there is nothing on any of the many positive things Trump has accomplished.

"It is very possible to be negative and fair about Trump at the same time. In fact the two are synonymous."

Uh, no. It is very possible to be positive and fair concerning Trump at the same time. In fact the two are synonymous. See how that works?

"If Trump thinks Google et al. are bad, wait until he sees the history books."

Depends on who writes the history books. If liberals write them Trump's going to look like the devil incarnate. If conservatives write them he'll be viewed positively.

"Trump should stop whining and do what he was elected to do"

He IS doing what he was elected to do. Seen the economy recently? Any new wars started recently?

Oh my!...

SHOCK POLLS! Trump’s Approval INCREASES After Media Bombardment!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KnP2ddivw4

@fizzb No political agenda eh Google?? Then why when I type in "American Inventors" 

That’s virtuous of you trying to protect those new to using search engines and also those who are perhaps intellectually limited and unable to see beyond the pictures and first sites shown by a search engine and stop with that, can’t figure out how to go deeper to find something that fits their needs and perspectives. 

If Google does have a political agenda, I can’t see the problem with that. It’s a for-profit business. If people don’t like its politics, they have options. Same with media outlets. Same with movies, books, art, you name it. I want as many choices as possible.

@Fizz: No political agenda eh Google?? Then why when I type in "American Inventors" are roughly 95% of the pics you chose to showcase are black inventors?

I can’t believe it but it’s true. Google is rewriting history by making it seem like great inventors like Bell are secondary figures in American history. It’s fine to point out contributions by people of all races but the vast majority of great American inventors were White males. Why? Because they were in a position in society to do so. To attempt to make it appear otherwise has identity politics written all over it. I hope James Damore becomes a billionaire when his court case is through.

already knew this but I went ahead and just did a Google search for "Trump News." Good grief, looking at the first 3 pages of sites, there is nothing on any of the many positive things Trump has accomplished

Because it is all recent news about Trump and evertthing that Trump has done over the past week or so has been bad or embarrassing to the office of President.

The most recent story is this one, of course. Next most recent is the McCain half-mast issue, then it is the actions of his close associates (Cohen etc).

He has just done one bad thing after another in recent events. Reporting events that occur does make Trump look bad because he is bad - perhaps the worst ever President.

Again, you don’t have to use Google. Pick a different search engine. If you don’t like the Washington Post you go to Faux News. If you don’t like the Weekly Standard you pick up Newsweek.

If he doesn't want people to keep calling him an ass, he should stop behaving like one.

Twitter have also been pressed to remove conspiracy driven content and hate speech.

Should Trumph account be closed due to its content ?

On his twitter account, there is a lot of his theories of conspiracy of others making fake news about him and a lot of what he has said can be considered as hate speach.

The truth, the medias one sided bias was to make Clinton win and get all salty that she lost

you mean Trumps truth is that even a thing, hes been caught lying so often you cant tell the difference between his lies and the truth.

https://wqad.com/2018/05/01/fact-checker-president-trump-lied-more-than-3000-times-in-466-days/

Oh my!...SHOCK POLLS! Trump’s Approval INCREASES After Media Bombardment!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KnP2ddivw4

oh my more fake news,average of all top polls show his approval rating as flat from last month at 41.4% Trump has never been over 45% approval.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Kenji Fujimori, well said!

*Twitter have also been pressed to remove *conspiracy driven content and hate speech.

Should Trumph account be closed due to its content ?

On his twitter account, there is a lot of his theories of conspiracy of others making fake news about him and a lot of what he has said can be considered as hate

It’s a very good point. Trump’s twitter account is a swamp of fake news and trash. Some of it is toxic and could be considered hate speech. My own take is it shouldn’t be closed.

Then again, I’m not a childish whining baby who complains about unfair treatment like Trump and some of his supporters.

"Because it is all recent news about Trump and evertthing that Trump has done over the past week or so has been bad or embarrassing to the office of President."

That's the problem with the majority of the media - they don't report any of the positive things that Trump has done over the past week - take the trade deal hammered out with Mexico for instance. Oh my...

President Trump getting done what Obama promised to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8oo34DJ92I

Alphabet/google is a danger, but not just to the USA, to the world. All that tracking of everything happening online should be illegal.

But Trump's complaint that when he does 1 good thing a week, but 30 other bad/stupid things, that the 1 thing doesn't take over the headlines is true. Bad reports always take the spot of happy stories wherever news is non-govt mandated/controlled.

That isn't a Trump thing. It is human nature. If Trump would STFU, then that 1 good thing would have a better chance to become known.

SHOCK POLLS! Trump’s Approval INCREASES After Media Bombardment!!!

SHOCK news - this is not necessarily the case.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-approval-rating-poll-incorrect-figures-republican-party-a8510201.html

When this all grinds to a predictable halt (sooner or later) I do wonder what the new narrative will be.

I mean, how much longer can commentators call those who question this madness "insane"?

Serrano: That's the problem with the majority of the media - they don't report any of the positive things that Trump has done over the past week

Can you post some articles from Fox News covering positive things Obama did when he was president? You might want to skip over the Donald Trump birther segments, FYI

Sorry, Super, it would be off-topic to post links just about Obama when he was the 2nd worst president in history.

Sounds like you have some biased search results.

Search algorithms can be gamed. Left-leaning sites may just be better at gaming the algorithms than right-leaning sites

On the other hand, right-leaning hosts dominate talk-show radio

US government can't control private companies anyways, unlike some other governments

And Google is not considered a public utility nor a public necessity, so the federal government can't do anything to regulate it

In this case, the closest thing to a "necessary public utility" is the internet itself, and the FCC just refused to regulate private internet cable companies when it killed Net Neutrality

So if the FCC refuses even to regulate those internet companies, there's no way the federal government can regulate search sites

Trump's paranoia reaching peak levels as the walls close in on him. Unstable. Screw loose.

Check out sites that show the political leanings of news sites. The right is dominated by Fox News, then you go much smaller from there as you go further to the right.

That's how a bubble works. A handful of conservative news sources dominate the right so it's easy to spread a unified message. That's why so many right wingers here suddenly start writing the exact same talking points at the exact same time.

On the other end, you have black talking about how all the liberal news sites have to work together behind the scenes to secretly coordinate their stories. Not very practical.

Look at the Grump. He wants to impose censorship on search engines. If he wasn't such a rotten despicable criminal he wouldn't be so paranoid about it. It just shows even further what a failure he is.

Toasted HereticAug. 29  10:01 pm JST

When this all grinds to a predictable halt (sooner or later) I do wonder what the new narrative will be.

I mean, how much longer can commentators call those who question this madness "insane"?

I applaud your elegant , and eloquent, use of the English language in the construction of your comments.

 If Trump would STFU, then that 1 good thing would have a better chance to become known.

More to the point, if Trump just did 1 good thing, and then played golf for the rest of the week....

SerranoAug. 29  09:05 pm JST

President Trump getting done what Obama promised to do

More like Trump destroying everything Obama achieved, and failing to live up to the absurd promises he made to lie his way into a job he is totally unsuitable for.

wtfjapanAug. 29  07:38 pm JST

The truth, the medias one sided bias was to make Clinton win and get all salty that she lost

you mean Trumps truth is that even a thing, hes been caught lying so often you cant tell the difference between his lies and the truth.

https://wqad.com/2018/05/01/fact-checker-president-trump-lied-more-than-3000-times-in-466-days/

There is no difference, Trump is incapable of telling the truth.

SerranoAug. 29  04:56 pm JST

"It is very possible to be negative and fair about Trump at the same time. In fact the two are synonymous."

Uh, no. It is very possible to be positive and fair concerning Trump at the same time. In fact the two are synonymous. See how that works?

Clearly YOU don't see how it works.

The opposite of what was originally written would be: "It is not possible to be positive and unfair about Trump at the same time. In fact the two are mutually exclusive."

Now do YOU see how it works?

Kenji FujimoriAug. 29  02:35 pm JST

Fallacy and garbage sells

Trump's total Stock-in-trade.

Jesus, that photo shows him just as how we think of him. A petulant four-year old who doesn't want to do what his parents have told him to do.

That's the moment when he was asked on his views following the death of McCain. He can't even bring himself to lie and say something. Surprising because lying is second-nature to him. He seems to do it without thinking it out - you know, like when he said to Abe that he "remembers Pearl Harbor", or that the parents of the soldiers who died in the Korean war told him they wanted him to bring back their sons' remains. (By my calculation, these parents must be well over 100 - how many are still alive). The irony is McCain's mother is well over 100 and still alive, and I bet she sure as hell doesn't want to speak to this despicable, dilusional man-child.

And that picture of Trump... Come on JT, you can be more professional than this.

How can they be? Trump doesn't act professional at all. He thinks he's a god and he's huffy when he don't get his way.

Jesus, that photo shows him just as how we think of him. A petulant four-year old who doesn't want to do what his parents have told him to do.

That's the moment when he was asked on his views following the death of McCain. He can't even bring himself to lie and say something. Surprising because lying is second-nature to him. He seems to do it without thinking it out

I'm not Jesus but it's like I just said. How can the press show this immature crybaby in any other way? He's got the maturity of a 4 year old.

If Trump would STFU, then that 1 good thing would have a better chance to become known.

That's just it. He just keeps popping off his chops and shooting his mouth off like a kid, because he is one.

In other words, he wants all news outlets to become like Fox Noise, and lie.

The four top stories on the front page of Japan today right column "popular stories" : "trump accuses.....", "trump warns......", "trump vows.........", "trump under........",

I seriously can't wait until this repulsive attention seeking megalomaniac disappears to an occasional side note in the news.

That picture sums it up quite well, nothing else needs to be said!

America, you want answers... this is the woman who's off the radar that has it all: CAROLINE ATKINSON

Global Public Affairs Policy Director for Google/YouTube who is super duper expert in research and data-based solutions who's getting protected by Google's CEO refusing to come to DC and testify in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/2018/08/28/google-ceo-pichai-faulted-by-senators-for-declining-to-testify#gs.TWIRn1Y