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Trump denies asking Comey to drop probe, colluding with Russia

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By Roberta Rampton and Patricia Zengerle

U.S. President Donald Trump, striking a defiant tone on Thursday after days of political tumult, denied colluding with Russia during his 2016 campaign or asking former FBI Director James Comey to drop a probe into his former national security adviser.

"No. No. Next question," Trump told a news conference when asked if he "in any way, shape or form" ever urged Comey, whom he fired on May 9, to close down the investigation into Michael Flynn.

Comey's firing was one in a series of jarring developments that culminated on Wednesday in the Justice Department's appointment of a special counsel to probe possible ties between Russia and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.

They included media reports that Trump discussed sensitive intelligence on Islamic State with Russia's foreign minister.

In a pair of morning tweets and at a later news conference, Trump described calls for his impeachment as "ridiculous" and said he had done nothing to warrant criminal charges.

"The entire thing has been a witch hunt and there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign - but I can always speak for myself - and the Russians. Zero," he said at a news conference with Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos.

Asked if he thought he had done anything to warrant criminal charges or impeachment as some on the left have demanded, the Republican president replied: "I think it's totally ridiculous."

Trump categorically denied he asked Comey to drop his probe of Flynn, whom he fired on Feb. 14 for misleading Vice President Mike Pence, about the extent of his conversations last year with Russia's ambassador.

According to multiple media reports, Comey wrote a memo detailing Trump's comments to him in February saying: "I hope you can let this go," referring to the Flynn probe.

In his earlier twitter posts, Trump decried the naming of Robert Mueller, a respected former FBI director, as a special counsel by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, an official he himself appointed.

"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!" Trump wrote on Thursday morning. He did not offer any evidence of such acts in his reference to Democratic former President Barack Obama and former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

"This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!" added Trump.

Russia has denied U.S. intelligence agencies' conclusion that it interfered in the election campaign to try to tilt the vote in Trump's favor. Trump has long bristled at the notion that Russia played any role in his November election victory over Clinton.

Reuters reported on Thursday that Flynn and other Trump campaign advisers were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the presidential race.

Trump also said he was close to selecting a new FBI director to replace Comey, and that former senator and one-time Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Lieberman was among the top candidates.

Trump's latest comments stood in contrast to his measured statement on Wednesday night after the announcement of Mueller's appointment, when he said "a thorough investigation will confirm what we already know - there was no collusion between my campaign and any foreign entity."

Democrats rejected Trump's characterization.

"This is a truth hunt," said Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar.

Trump later told news anchors at the White House that Mueller's appointment was a "very, very negative thing," adding:"I believe it hurts our country terribly, because it shows we're a divided, mixed-up, not-unified country."

Rosenstein, the No. 2 Justice Department official, named Mueller amid mounting pressure in Congress for an independent investigation beyond existing FBI and congressional probes into the Russia issue.

Rosenstein briefed senators on Thursday, but made no public comments. Afterward, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told reporters that "everything he said was that you need to treat this investigation as if it may be a criminal investigation."

Rosenstein told senators that he knew Comey would be fired before he wrote his letter, Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill said.

The White House initially said last week that a letter Rosenstein wrote accusing Comey of missteps as FBI director, including his handling of an election-year probe into Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, was what prompted Trump to fire Comey. Trump later said he had already decided to dismiss him and was thinking of "this Russia thing."

A key issue Mueller may have to tackle is whether Trump has committed obstruction of justice, an offense that could be used in any effort in the Republican-led Congress to impeach him and remove him from office.

Asked about possible obstruction of justice, Republican House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters the special counsel would "follow the facts where ever they may lead" and that "it is premature to prejudge anything at this point."

© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.

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Of course he does! The guy is a serial liar. And yet, wingers on here will ask you to believe Trump with zero proof, but that the many instances of him recording as lying are all "fake news", proving they are nearly as stupid as he is.

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"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!"

If he fears nothing then he should not be afraid of any counsel, democracy is about transparency.

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"This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!" added Trump.

"It's going to be great", he later said "we have... the best witch hunts for bad hombres... and I'm the baddest"

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And yet, wingers on here will ask you to believe Trump with zero proof

To be fair, non-existence cannot be proven. If Trump really did ask Comey to drop the probe, and if he's been colluding with Russia it's up to the accusers to prove it.

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He doesn't seem to comprehend that he is being investigated by his own administration. He could fire both his assistant AG and the special counsel - but then, of course, he'd have to face consequences. And he hates facing consequences.

So instead, he whinges. As usual.

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So instead, he whinges.

I love watching him whine about being treated 'unfairly'. Karma's a b***h Trump! Maybe you shouldn't led the birther movement for five years.

But unlike Obama, whose transgression was being given a 'funny sounding' name and not being born white, Trump actually brings on the criticism he faces. If he didn't repeatedly say and do ridiculous things, people wouldn't be criticizing him. So he has no place to whine. If he learned to control himself and act like an adult, he could make it all go away.

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I love watching him whine about being treated 'unfairly'. 

Yea, the guy is a serial liar and bully. He also has a complete disconnect with reality.

We just need to get that response under oath.

Then he will have committed perjury as well as obstruction of justice.

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

Hardly, Benghazi has to be the single greatest political witch hunt in terms of scope and cost.

What do you expect from Trump though? He projects his failures on others rather than admitting them.

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Of course he does! The guy is a serial liar.

Can you prove he said it? Can you prove Comey is telling the truth, also, what insights besides rampant emotions do you have?

And yet, wingers on here will ask you to believe Trump with zero proof,

Trump could be lying, but it would be stupid to wrap a noose around his neck and slap the horse on the rear before truly knowing what happened.

but that the many instances of him recording as lying are all "fake news", proving they are nearly as stupid as he is.

Yeah and the media as well got caught again and again with their pants down, so I'm not thinking these loons are the embodiment of truth and justice entirely.

I can deal with difficult Trump, I could never deal with a raging far left progressive, so it's all good.

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Can you prove he said it? Can you prove Comey is telling the truth, also, what insights besides rampant emotions do you have?

Rational thought, historical precedent, and character judgment, things that Trump and the right wingers have forsaken.

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Can you prove Comey is telling the truth, also, what insights besides rampant emotions do you have?

It won't make or break the case, but we do know about their character. It's not like they live in a bubble.

Comey has a reputation among the people who know him of being a straight shooter, almost to a fault. He likes the limelight at times, but he's never been known to lie, which is not surprising for someone who made it to the position he was in.

On the other hand, we all know how Trump got to the position he's in, and lying helped rather than hurt him. He makes his character painfully obvious through his tweets. We've also seen him make some really bad decisions as well.

Judging by character, I'd say Comey is telling the truth. But I'm aware character isn't enough, and we need evidence.

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"No Special Counsel for Clinton administration"? Does the Name Ken Starr ring a bell? Our President's lack of knowledge of America history (even events that happened during his lifetime) is stunning.

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Comey has a reputation among the people who know him of being a straight shooter, almost to a fault.

He also has a reputation for playing both sides of the political aisle, self-centered as well as having a huge ego and being a narcissist.

He likes the limelight at times, but he's never been known to lie, which is not surprising for someone who made it to the position he was in.

Well, there are quite a few people in the agency who think the opposite and that Comey was also an opportunist.

On the other hand, we all know how Trump got to the position he's in, and lying helped rather than hurt him.

So far nothing stuck to him and so many occasions where the media was wrong on issues about Trump.

He makes his character painfully obvious through his tweets. We've also seen him make some really bad decisions as well.

But that doesn't make him a liar in every situation.

Judging by character, I'd say Comey is telling the truth. But I'm aware character isn't enough, and we need evidence.

Ok, you can believe Comey, I'll believe the facts and where they fall, I think both lied on this and the truth is in between somewhere.

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Interesting the pro Trump supporters dismiss every accusation made against the president, stating no evidence on this or that, while pushing hearsay about Comey, without producing a single thread of evidence of this wrong character, personality and possible wrong doings.

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I think both lied on this and the truth is in between somewhere.

Trump is a habitual liar who has made a career of lying and intimidation.

Comey is a habitual truth teller who has made a career of telling the truth and intimidation.

Do I think Comey lied or Trump? Obviously I think Trump lied, and Comey told the truth.

Of course, we will never know what was spoken in that room because Trump orchestrated it that way to hide the truth.

However, in the court of law (which matters now), there can only by one true fact, and a court of law will obvious side side with Comey over the habitual liar.

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Trump is a habitual liar who has made a career of lying and intimidation.

President 44 and his cohorts were also intimidating, but in a more sly manner.

Comey is a habitual truth teller who has made a career of telling the truth and intimidation.

Hmmmmm....that's debatable.

Do I think Comey lied or Trump? Obviously I think Trump lied, and Comey told the truth.

I think both lied and the truth is somwhere in the middle.

Of course, we will never know what was spoken in that room because Trump orchestrated it that way to hide the truth.

Can you prove it?

However, in the court of law (which matters now),

Which ALWAYS, so now the left is concerned about the law? Seriously?

there can only by one true fact, and a court of law will obvious side side with Comey over the habitual liar.

I'm not so sure about that.

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Rational thought, historical precedent, and character judgment, things that Trump and the right wingers have forsaken.

On the character judgement, it has to be said many Trump voters recognized his repulsive character and voted for him in spite of it.

Only the truly delusional members of the lunatic fringe have tried to defend him on this score.

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Trump's only hope is that he can produce a tape out that contradicts Comey. I seriously doubt that will happen.

Can you prove it?

Don't need to. The isolation of Comey from Pence and Sessions will be shown (in court) to be a guilty act in furtherance of the larger finding, obstruction. Isolation is not a crime, but tied to obstruction, provides further proof of intent.

I think both lied and the truth is somwhere in the middle.

Hope springs eternal.

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On the character judgement, it has to be said many Trump voters recognized his repulsive character and voted for him in spite of it. 

Either that or vote for horrible candidate and deal with more of the same disastrous policies of slow engulfing socialism.

Only the truly delusional members of the lunatic fringe have tried to defend him on this score.

I think it's more the lunatic fringe that decided against country and vote for hippie policies and thank god, that never came to fruition.

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Oh Trump just telling fatties again like he always does...the sooner he is gone the better..now he is running off on a World tour maybe he should concerntrate about fixing the issues within the US first...coming good on all those huggeee campagain promises to the rust belt..accaully doing something productive not destructive..he really has no idea at all...

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Either that or vote for horrible candidate and deal with more of the same disastrous policies of slow engulfing socialism

Yes, many despised Clinton for good reason.

My point still stands. Only the delusional try to defend the character this crass, ignorant, dishonest, trashy loudmouth. Perhaps I could add another group to the delusional - those who shared his penchant for trash attacks at the level of birtherism, speculating he may be a Muslim or that he isn't really human but the spawn of Satan.

Yes, the delusional and perhaps the insane, and those who also enjoy wallowing in trash will defend his character.

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Trump, in The Art Of The Deal:

"I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole."

Trump on the campaign trail in January, 2016:

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s like incredible."

As thoughtful analysts have noted, Trump does not lie in order to hide the truth. Trump lies because he knows his supporters don't care if what he says is true or not. They just like what he says because his narrative fits the way they wish the world were.

I'll take the word of a man who's built his career on playing by the rules rather than that of a man who's built his on manipulation.

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Just throwing this out there so you MSM globalists don't have to massage yourselves all day.

I guess many here would agree with all these points then, right?

He has betrayed the Constitution, which he swore to uphold.

He has committed treason by befriending Russia and other enemies of America.

He has subjugated America’s interests to Moscow.

He has been caught in fantastic lies to the American people, including personal ones, like his previous marriage and divorce.

Too bad all these were leveled at Jack Kennedy in the when he tried to approach the Soviet Union. Seems kind of similar wouldn't you agree?

http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkadtreason.jpg

Oddly, the link above is from Dallas and the day that Kennedy was assassinated.

Now why would Kennedy's moves be a threat? Same today as it was during Kennedy. Upsetting the status-quo globalist agenda. Put that in your "no conspiracy theory here" pipe and smoke it.

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"This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!" added Trump.

Possibly yes but who's to blame? Trump's actions and thoughts are often disconcerting, absurd or even contradictory and it's just impossible not to occasionaly call him out on those inconsistencies. Personally, the more I know/see him the less I understand him.

I think DT has been surrounded by ass kissers all his life (as most CEOs do in the corporate world) and he's struggling to handle adversity and criticism. Some serious persecution complex issues too (I see a bit of david Brent in him).

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I want to stay pretty detached from all of this. All the partisan bickering at this point is not going to accomplish much. Specifically, this is a legal matter. But there is a larger issue.

About six months ago, I posted here and gave my reasons for supporting Hillary, and they were solely based on her qualifications, experience and competence. Oh and people were making such a big deal about some made up transgressions related to emails and Benghazi or some such nonsense. I noted that Hillary would be making things happen in Washington from day one. And at the very least, the US government could hum along and people could get on with their lives. Trump, I predicted, would take at least 6 months to figure things out and at least a year to get anything done at all. I was wrong. Trump refused to listen and learn, so he is just as much of a noob as he was on day one.

And now here we are. There are a million reasons people might dislike Trump. I mildly care about those, but no matter how all this Comey thing comes out, we can't escape the reality that the Trump administration is dead in the water. Entirely in chaos. He has not gotten people appointed. He has not moved ahead on any initiative other than ACA, and that has stalled. He is wildly unpopular. He will spend at least the next year fighting accusations 24/7 if he does not step down before then.

This is what happens when you elect a noob, people. I called it exactly. If it was not Comey, it would be something else, but this guy does not know what he is doing. He has no deep support, even from the GOP, or from the American people.

And I will double down and say this. Take Trump out now and put Hillary in UNDER THE EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES, and Hillary could find a way forward. She could get back to a legislative agenda. She could build coalitions. She could right the ship and get it moving again. Trump just can't do it, even with House and Senate majorities. Being a politician is DIFFICULT and a lot of people can't do it. Hillary has been doing it her whole life and she is good at it. It was a historical bungle not to elect her.

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Speaking of Trump denying things, it is the MO of him and his supporters.

Anyone care to take a challenge?

Name the posters that ask what your "proof" is or if you can prove something. Then, after you provide evidence that would be admissible in a U.S. court of law, they decry that evidence as "fake news," or they ask questions about topics that were never mentioned during the exchange with other posters.

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hippie policies

Ouch, that hurts soo bad.

If it is a choice between hippie policies vs. the gestapo and oligarch policies of Trump, I'll pick the hippie policies.

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Take Trump out now and put Hillary in UNDER THE EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES, and Hillary could find a way forward. She could get back to a legislative agenda. She could build coalitions. She could right the ship and get it moving again. Trump just can't do it, even with House and Senate majorities. Being a politician is DIFFICULT and a lot of people can't do it. Hillary has been doing it her whole life and she is good at it. It was a historical bungle not to elect her.

An even worse bungle not to have Bernie as the candidate, IMHO.

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I have kind of a betting game running with a guy I know on how long Trump is going to last. Compared to Nixon, Trump has almost nobody to guide him through beltway politics, where he is absolutely blind. Trump also has few supporters to fall back on. Nobody wants to touch him with a pole. So one would think that Trump is not going to last as long as Nixon did... a year or so... almost two years.

But Trump has that "Manhattan decency" that will make it seem perfectly fine to stay in office for four years no matter how much he is reviled and punished. We already know that he believes a lot of stuff that go way beyond the pale of decency, and he loves doing nasty things because he knows he can get away with them. Nixon was not like that. He had about half the self awareness of most people, but 100 times more self-awareness that Trump has.

So it is a fun subject to think about. How long is Trump going to hang in there even though nobody really wants him? Can Congress get organized enough to get rid of him? Somehow I doubt it, and the GOP has not been showing even mediocre judgment for the last decade.

The suspense is killing me. We all know where this ends, but not really how, and that will be interesting to watch.

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"n even worse bungle not to have Bernie as the candidate, IMHO."

I know people have this opinion. I don't agree, and I am not sure that people with this opinion really know how things work. Bernie is an ideologue. Hillary is a technocrat. America does not need the former, no matter how feel-good that might be. Frankly, technocrats are also not great at making huge changes, but America just cannot afford that now anyway.

Boil it down, and Bernie would have been bogged down despite his support. I don't think he would have been effective, especially with this congress, and people would have gotten tired of some old guy who could not get anything done. It would have ended badly.

So I won't be distracted into some kind of love-fest with Bernie or into dumb comparisons with Hillary. I said what I said, and Hillary was the choice America did not make. And the nation pays for it every day.

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We all know where this ends, but not really how, and that will be interesting to watch.

The next episode is shaping up to be a doozy. The hapless PotUS has got one of his minions (played by Stephen Miller, best known for the episode on the Muslim travel ban) to write a speech about Islam which will be made in Saudi Arabia. Much hilarity ensues. And it's not even the season finale!

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Good posts, Speed.

Nobody wants to touch him with a pole.

An interesting test of this will be his FBI nominee. Word has it he's leaning towards Joe Lieberman, which would be a terrible choice for a plethora of reasons (par for Trump), the greatest of which is that the FBI really needs a career official to head it, not a politician (particularly a 75-year old - but then, that's likely Trump's calculation). The question is, will Joe take the bait? And if he doesn't, who will Trump turn to next?

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Hippie policies

As far as I know, the hippie movement was based primarily on peace and love, and yet the lunatic fringe, who tore into Clinton as a hawk and a warmonger, are thankful that she wasn't able to bring her "hippie policies" into practice.

It's a good thing the US has someone strong like Putin, a man who could never be described as a hippie, calling the shots now.

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Yes, the delusional and perhaps the insane, and those who also enjoy wallowing in trash will defend his character.

Really, I think the opposite about the former candidate.

If it is a choice between hippie policies vs. the gestapo and oligarch policies of Trump, I'll pick the hippie policies.

So people are hoarded in prison and labor camps waiting for that final moment? That's happening? Minorities are being arrested in massive numbers and shipped out, being tortured or being brutally murdered? If all the above are happening, right now, then you can say Gestapo tactics, if not, then just sum it up to having uncontrollable temper tantrums.

The suspense is killing me. We all know where this ends, but not really how, and that will be interesting to watch.

Yeah? How? This should be good.

As far as I know, the hippie movement was based primarily on peace and love,

Drugs, sex and anything you want to do as you please and don't listen to authority, it was pretty much the beginning of the end of hardwork and self-reliance.

and yet the lunatic fringe, who tore into Clinton as a hawk and a warmonger, are thankful that she wasn't able to bring her "hippie policies" into practice. 

Exactly!!

It's a good thing the US has someone strong like Putin, a man who could never be described as a hippie, calling the shots now.

Oh, the left and their conspiracy theories. But I sure do love their humor and tenacity. ROFL

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@5SpeedRacer5

I don't agree, and I am not sure that people with this opinion really know how things work.

That's a bit condescending...

Bernie is an ideologue.

Maybe, but he's an ideologue that gets things done, often by working across the aisle, and sometimes by removing his name and giving credit to those across the aisle. That's selfless and something we could use more of.

Hillary is a technocrat. America does not need the former, no matter how feel-good that might be.

Well a technocrat can't do much if they don't inspire people to vote and get elected. Bernie lost the primary in 2016, but for someone who was virtually unknown, he came damn close to beating someone as well-known as Clinton.

Boil it down, and Bernie would have been bogged down despite his support. I don't think he would have been effective, especially with this congress...

And Hillary wouldn't have been bogged down? We saw the kind of cooperation a slightly-left-of-center president gets with Obama. If they aren't going to work with us anyway, we might as well go all the way. That's how the right has managed to shift the center to the right.

I only say this because it seems like the DNC establishment is making the same mistakes they did in 2016 and relying solely on Trump's failure to get them back in power. Bernie hasn't ruled out running again, but the establishment media bafflingly never mentions the most popular politician in the country when discussing 2020.

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@Bass:

Yes, the delusional and perhaps the insane, and those who also enjoy wallowing in trash will defend his character.

Really, I think the opposite about the former candidate.

What you are saying here is that you think only people who are sane and don't enjoy eallleing in trash will defend Clinton's character. It's nice to see you're learning.

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If all the above are happening, right now, then you can say Gestapo tactics,

I only have to cite Sessions disregard of the general consensus to move away from sentencing guidelines and his policy to restrict prosecutors from negotiating reasonable plea deals to make a case for gestapo tactics.

These are the mindless policies of a police state.

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An incompetent president is incompetent.   The Trumpeteers refuse to acknowledge this because they equally incompetent to how reality and running a country works.

The majority of what is happening to Trump is his own big mouthed, inexperienced, narcissistic, self-aggrandizing mentality resulting in consequences for his actions.  

Sooner the Trump kiss@$#$ figure this out the better. The partisan posters got their heads so far up there they can see intestinal tracts. Deflect, rhetoric, and anything that doesn't face facts is how they think.   

I'm going to wait until the investigation is finished, presuming the corrupt souls in the GOP don't further destroy our country for the sake of their party power mongering.

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What you are saying here is that you think only people who are sane and don't enjoy eallleing in trash will defend Clinton's character. It's nice to see you're learning.

No, I meant what I said earlier, bro.

The Trumpeteers refuse to acknowledge this because they equally incompetent to how reality and running a country works. 

Oh, I remember the blind drool and lovefest that gripped liberals for 8 years and all the while letting it run amok.

The majority of what is happening to Trump is his own big mouthed, inexperienced, narcissistic, self-aggrandizing mentality resulting in consequences for his actions.

 

Some of it is his own doing, this is true, but the majority of it is definitely coming from the Dems and the far-left MSM.

Sooner the Trump kiss@$#$ figure this out the better. The partisan posters got their heads so far up there they can see intestinal tracts. Deflect, rhetoric, and anything that doesn't face facts is how they think.  

Both sides are guilty of this.

I'm going to wait until the investigation is finished, presuming the corrupt souls in the GOP don't further destroy our country for the sake of their party power mongering.

As I said before, Washington needs to cleanse itself of both parties, they're both bad and they both have destroyed the country, the Dems did spend more money, but all in all, they are both useless and incompetent.

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I think it's great that Trump fans are supporting him. It's going to be a fun year of headlines and watching them absolutely humiliate themselves defending this guy, and they deserve it. Last man standing will be the one with the least self respect.

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As I said before, Washington needs to cleanse itself of both parties, they're both bad and they both have destroyed the country, the Dems did spend more money, but all in all, they are both useless and incompetent.

You know I've already said that.   It's been time for an massive unaffiliated group to uproot the party majorities for a long time.   Just now the time is much more ripe than any other.

But remember I've also said that better the devil you know than the one you don't during our recent election.   Just made a worse swamp.   Competent devil one can manage and understand until the next election.   But nope.   Some will sell their souls for him apparently because he's RINO.  Partisanship before country right?  You've shown how you think and it's going to be pretty hard reneging on your previous comments as a partisan groupie.

Don't think I didn't want to give Trump a chance, but as soon as he started advocating for CEOs and more wealthy elitists to run sections of government for their own self interests, installed close family members in "positions" to make himself feel insulated from criticism, and kept doing and saying really, really stupid things just to make it seem like he was accomplishing his "promises" my hope for the reality of POTUS straightening him out dwindled to -0.99%.    And as I also said before, there be consequences for stupidity.   And here there are consequences.   Fools keep digging deeper into the pit, while the smart ones start digging a way up out of the pit.

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I think it's great that Trump fans are supporting him. It's going to be a fun year of headlines and watching them absolutely humiliate themselves defending this guy, and they deserve it.

Be careful, you know you guys are bad at predictions, Dems can do that, but to make a platform of chasing after Trump isn't going to get them elected to anything, what are they going to campaign on, obstructing Trump?

Ok, they did that, so now what other message do they have?

Last man standing will be the one with the least self respect.

To Dems and progressives, oh, without a doubt.

t's been time for an massive unaffiliated group to uproot the party majorities for a long time.   Just now the time is much more ripe than any other. 

And do what? They're not even winning elections like crazy.

But remember I've also said that better the devil you know than the one you don't during our recent election.   Just made a worse swamp.   Competent devil one can manage and understand until the next election.   But nope.   Some will sell their souls for him apparently because he's RINO.  Partisanship before country right?  You've shown how you think and it's going to be pretty hard reneging on your previous comments as a partisan groupie.  

As long as he can get tax reform and health care past, he'll easily do another 4.

Partisanship before country right?  You've shown how you think and it's going to be pretty hard reneging on your previous comments as a partisan groupie. 

I have never been partisan, don't go there, I hate the right as much as the left, it's just the left are all posers, they think they are so clean and pure.

Don't think I didn't want to give Trump a chance, but as soon as he started advocating for CEOs and more wealthy elitists to run sections of government for their own self interests, installed close family members in "positions" to make himself feel insulated from criticism, and kept doing and saying really, really stupid things just to make it seem like he was accomplishing his "promises" my hope for the reality of POTUS straightening him out dwindled to -0.99%.    And as I also said before, there be consequences for stupidity.   And here there are consequences.   Fools keep digging deeper into the pit, while the smart ones start digging a way up out of the pit.

Uh-huh...well, you are entitled to believe that, I respect that.

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I hate the right as much as the left

Making up non-partisan historians claiming the Bush years were a success while comparing Bernie Sanders to Josef Stalin suggests otherwise.

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Making up non-partisan historians claiming the Bush years were a success while comparing Bernie Sanders to Josef Stalin suggests otherwise.

Nothing was made up.

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There has to be tapes to determine if Trump tried to impede Comey's investigation of Flynn. If the tapes comment was just bluster than it's one man's word against another's. Especially since Comey did not take action against Trump at the time the (the Dems) alleged obstruction took place. Saying 'let it go' to an investigator isn't a ethical thing to do but it isn't illegal. Not any more illegal than when Obama declared that the IRS did no wrong when the IRS targeted Conservatives during the 2012 election.

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Read more about why Comey wouldn't act on reporting Trump immediately. You'll find what your right wing media is keeping from you.

That actually applies to both sides. Try to read from more than sources that you agree with to find the bits and pieces being withheld.

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@Bass:

Making up non-partisan historians claiming the Bush years were a success while comparing Bernie Sanders to Josef Stalin suggests otherwise.

Nothing was made up.

What's your proof? Can you prove it?

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@Bass:

No proof, a.k.a., what adults call evidence.

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@Bass:

What you are saying here is that you think only people who are sane and don't enjoy eallleing in trash will defend Clinton's character. It's nice to see you're learning.

No, I meant what I said earlier, bro.

The meaning of what you said is the first seven lines of the quote above. If that's not what you meant, type more carefully.

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What's your proof? Can you prove it?

Is Bernie president?

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