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© Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Trump digs in on election lies, downplays Jan 6 violence, insults accuser during CNN town hall event
By Jill Colvin MANCHESTER, New Hampshire©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Roxy Music
Trump was articulate and accurate.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Electing this clown again will mean real surrender and decline for America.
GenHXZ
People who think he isn't going to get the next presidency have their head in the sand. This guy's behaviour does nothing but increase his 'standing' amongst 50% and some change of the US voters, and that 'some change' is all it takes. Putting the same guy up against him that is so easy to throw insults at is some smooth brained action on the Dems side, they are literally gifting this to him.
iraira
Nice….now Biden can deflect any questions about his shortcomings and problems with a “Just look at Mr. Convicted and Indicted over there. How many ‘witch hunts’ you want to whine about today?”.
Moderate Republicans and independents aren’t going to vote for Trump this time. They’ve had enough of the circus.
Roxy Music
Trump dismantled the commentator so effortlessly. His popularity just grows and grows.
porto
Very difficult to associate either of these things with Trump.
Cards fan
lol No it doesn't.
All this shows is that he's an impetuous child, incapable of any growth.
The man is so lacking in self-control that he the very next day after he loses his libel case, he's back to insulting the same woman again.
nishikat
What's going to happen to Trump (in the next lawsuit) regarding this? I'm NOT talking about from among his Trump crowd...rather I'm talking about a jury. Trump people LOVE this, but what will the (next) jury in the (next) lawsuit against Trump say?
Peter Neil
It’s obvious that his “supporters” come here from a site where they share places they can swarm.
Roxy Music
Cards fan--according to the polls his popularity is growing. lol
Peter Neil
There are too many more dishes on his buffet table of legal woes. I predict he won’t be the nominee in 2024.
Why can’t the country have a normal president and vice president?
PTownsend
Rupert's 'Truth or Fox' network has ben clearly shown to most reasonable people to be one of the biggest fake news outlets, joining Putin and Prizoghin's social media warriors, including the 99% of his keyboard lackeys Putin brags that have not yet been uncovered.Along with Xi's 50 cent army. Russia and China are winning the Internet, thanks to so many people around the world, in North America, especially in the US South, unable to reason clearly.
EFD
At first, I was against CNN giving a compulsive liar a platform. But in retrospect....
They gave him a nice stage and a compliant audience that enabled his worst tendencies. Then CNN gave him a rope in the form of honest questions demanding honest answers.
And then Trump used that rope to legally and politically hang himself on live TV.
He lied from his opening sentence and never stopped.
He engaged in whack-job conspiracy theories.
He gave Jack Smith more statements to consider.
He gave Carole reason to sue him all over again.
He lied, lied, lied and then he lied some more.
He discredited the American Justice System.
He snuggled up to his favorite cuddle buddy Putin.
He called the moderator a nasty individual for demanding a simple answer to to a simple question.
And the vast majority of the country that was not already in his cult of personality looked on and said "oh HELL NO!"
The GOP sources for the network were bordering on appoplectic in their response.
There was nothing good about this for Trump regardless of what his rubes insist.
It was a freak show from beginning to end.
Blacklabel
Just finished watching it.
he crushed it, great job in replying to all the questions openly and honestly.
host kept trying to talk over him but Trump owned the audience.
theFu
Unhinged. That's the word that comes to mind.
If facts aren't good enough, don't run for office.
Blacklabel
you watched it? no, right?
because Putin wasn’t mentioned, was he?
lincolnman
To borrow someone's phrase, "what an utter and complete disaster"...
The more Trump shows the American public that he's a sick, ignorant, degenerate, the more the 75% of the non-MAGA cult will look at him as the toxic Loser he is...
Trump could plant a big kiss on Putin, say he's for repealing the 2nd Amendment, and pick Hunter as his running mate, and the MAGA-cultists would all still worship him...
He even tells them to take the hated COVID vaccine they all think is poison - and they still grovel at his feet...
MAGA-world is nothing but a radical, extremist cult...
EFD
The ONLY thing he crushed was himself.
He lied from the very first sentence.
Collins demanded answer and not deflections. In return he called her "a nasty individual".
The audience represented the worst aspects of America. They laughed at a sexual assault conviction.
The TV audience is going to look at this and say "NOPE!"
Lied. Low-energy. No answers. Lied somemore. Engaged in wild conspiracy. Talked about pardoning convicted felons.
The fact that you think it was wonderful just makes it more clear what a feces-fest it really was.
EFD
Yes, I did. And Ukraine was clearly mentioned. Trump basically said that he would "end the war in 24 hours" by selling Ukraine down the road to his handler lord Putin.
Blacklabel
She is a whack job, that’s not “deeply personal terms” to say. he doesn’t even know her and the audience response tells you all you need to know. Laughter.
Blacklabel
He said that?
EFD
Other words include "Delusional", "Addled", "Insane" "Criminally Liable (admittedly two words)", "Pathetic", "Morose" and "Low-energy" (again, two words)
Think I will go with "insane".
There was nothing tonight that would have convinced anyone who did not vote for him in 2020 - a majority of 7 million voters - to vote for him in 24.
In fact, I bet that there were a fair few "hold my nose" GOP voters and Independents within visual range of a fence (forget about being actually on it) who took a look at this and said "NOPE, not voting for that nut-job."
lillibet
And this man could well be the next president of the USA, and coming to Japan to meet the prime minister and his cabinet. Now that is something to really look forward to.
TokyoLiving
Well, there we have the good old Trump..
Rude, misogynist, arrogant, lier, bad manners, belligerent, narcissistic, fanciful, cynical, etc.
And his horde of worshipers do not stop admiring him, they love him because the way he is..
There you have....
(facepalm)..
EFD
He was shown a picture of her. To be fair, he did think she was his 2nd wife (who WAS his type) so he most certainly did know her.
A jury of his peers reacted rather differently, unanomously and in less than 3 hours.
Gee, an auditorium of GQP and GQP leaning voters laughing at him denigrating a woman he was convicted of sexually assaulting. THAT is a great look. I am sure that played well on TV with the 1 out of 3 women who have experienced something similar and those that love them.
Like I said, his cult will lap it up. The 70% of America that is not, not so much.
Blacklabel
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/05/10/ukraine-russia-war-us-military-aid-donald-trump-town-hall-vpx.cnn
im curious what is the time stamp where he said anything about his actual solution for ending the war much less that it would involve selling out Ukraine to his “handler lord Putin”?
Blacklabel
your problem is that with a 36 percent approval rate (and absent any cheating) you can’t expect Biden to get 81 million votes again.
barely 1/3 even say he is mentally or physically capable much now, much less for 6 more years.
Trump got 12 million more votes in 2020 than 2016 and will get at least 74 million next time.
and Biden approval among African Americans has dropped 30 points because he has doing next to nothing for the community. So he will be hemorrhaging votes there.
Jimizo
Trump has never been informed or eloquent and he’s clearly on the decline from a very low standard to begin with.
Cards fan
She's a whack job that Trump sexually abused.
That's not true.
wallace
Watched some of it. Trump BS and lies. They prepared questions beforehand but as usual, Trump went off script.
EFD
Trump provided enough video clips for the remainder of the cycle that oppo-research teams, both Democratic and GQP, can probably just take the rest of the election cycle off.
From advocating default, to pardoning convicted felons, to demeaning a woman he was convicted of sexually assaulting, to election lies, to demeaning his interviewer because she made him answer questions, to ..... There is just too much to relate.
Trump is the gift that keeps on giving to his opponents. One wonders when another non-insane member of the GQP (Sununu, Essa, Christy, etc.) are going to cash in these gifts and hang Trump with his own words.
We know it sure won't be bobble-head Ronnie, the Winger of political "Rock Stars." He only yells at women and children.
Cards fan
You're dreaming if you think somehow Biden can't 82 million votes again, but Trump will somehow magically get 74 million votes. After being proven in court to be a sexual abuser. Pathetic.
wallace
Trump is not yet the GOP nomination.
bass4funk
I agree.
Blacklabel
yeah the pic was a full decade before the supposed incident.
you don’t “know” everyone that someone else takes a pic of you with. Especially so long ago that it’s a black and white photo.
Blacklabel
So her claims are so believable and she is so righteous that a CNN audience…..laughed at her?
he said he knows her husband but not her.
Jimizo
Along with Trump, you think the 2020 election was illegitimate. I think you believe 2016 was fraudulent too.
Why are you trusting these numbers?
You can’t trust numbers coming out of a fraudulent election.
Cards fan
No. Her claims are so believable that Donald owes her $5 million in damages.
Donald lies a lot. He also claimed he won the election we all know he lost.
EFD
The WAPO poll. As Mark Twain once said "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."
It was an outlier which has already been countered by a different poll with a tighter margin of error. So there is that.
And polls aside, if this is a question of Biden vs. Trump, as I believe it will be, there is no universe in which Trump wins back any of the 7 million who voted against him.
ESPECIALLY after 1/6.
ESPECIALLY after he obtrsucted the election (indictments to come)
ESPECIALLY after he obstructed indeed actively hid IN HIS DESK classified documents (indictments to come)
ESPECIALLY after a jury of his peers found unanamously that he sexually assaulted and then defamed a woman that he definitely knows.
And then there is a woman's right to choose, gun violence. his on his sleeve racisim, climate change denialism, attempts to villianize gays.
On none of these issues is he popular with either the general electorate and especially with the younger urban voters that are moving into their political lives.
So hang on to that one poll. I hope its magical qualities keep you warm and safe in your bubble. Because the facts, reality and the trends of post 1/6 America do not support any universe in which Trump wins an election.
My actual fear is that he goes to prison too early and that the GQP has time to replace him with a serious candidate - Chris Sununu for example.
wallace
Many assume Trump will be the GOP candidate. If he were to win in 2014 he can only serve a single term. The GOP might decide a two-term nomination like Desantis would be better.
Blacklabel
AOC super mad so it just have gone badly for Dems:
“CNN should be ashamed of themselves,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. “They have lost total control of this ‘town hall’ to again be manipulated into platforming election disinformation, defenses of Jan 6th, and a public attack on a sexual abuse victim. The audience is cheering him on and laughing at the host.”
nukkuheddo
The shyster declared bankruptcy 7 times - everything about the guy is on display for folks to see his understanding of accountability - why don't folks see it?
Cards fan
While we're on the topic of polls.
Biden still leads Trump by 2%. That's going to widen after Donald lost his case.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3998208-biden-tops-trump-by-2-points-in-new-poll-leads-desantis-by-3-points/
Blacklabel
Since April 1, Trump won 6 of the last 11 polls with one tie.
the most 2 recent ones that Joe won, he won only by 2 points each.
And those have 12 and 16% of people missing- it doesn’t add up to 100%. Joe won 43 to 41, where is the rest?
dagon
Trump is well aware that his only path to victory in the upcoming presidential election is through accelerationism and the controlled demolition of democratic institutions.
That has pretty much always been his raison d'etre for his corporate and evangelical backers.
EFD
And even more after Trump is indicted or election interference, obstruction of justice and a host of other criminal offenses.
PTownsend
MilesTeg
Still believes he won the election even though state and federal election officials, his own campaign and White House aides, and numerous courts have said there is no evidence to support his claims. A deluded liar.
Would pardon the Jan 6 thugs. Clearly doesn't believe in law and order.
Believes Pence was the one that did something wrong.
Claims that CNN is 'fake news' then appears on CNN. Oh the irony....
That Trump supporters believe the same things, kind of tells you all you need to know about them. Liars themselves who don't believe in law and order nor the US constitution.
wallace
bass4funk
Except he was not. He went off script rambling and lying.
Blacklabel
Oh so just “wait” to see his poll numbers go down? Hasn’t happened “yet”?
That is what you said after Jan 6 and the raid and the indictment and the and the….
ok let’s check his numbers next week. the CNN audience laughed at her and the host too. No one taking that verdict or that host seriously.
“he talked over her!” No, she talked over HIM. It wasn’t the Kaitlin Collins Town Hall now was it? He insulted her! She deserved it by her actions and the audience laughed at her.
I see numbers going up again, let’s talk next week.
dagon
Fixed it for you.
AOC would wreck Trump in a debate with factsand no patience for Trump's **
EFD
Donald Trump can go on a town hall of supporting voters and get cheers and laughter.
Here is a list of other things he can do:
Convict himself with his own words.
Launch an insurrection.
Lie and defame
Pay damages for above.
Spend all eternity in the second lowest circle of Hell (the lowest level is for Mao, Hitler and Stalin and they don't tolerate losers, so he will have to dine at the little fascist's table with Benito and Saddam.)
Spend some time before his final stop"
wallace
The important voting sector is the independents and who will they vote for in 2024. Will they vote for Trump in 2024? Many women were upset after the court case.
EFD
In federal prison.
(Apologies, the kindle posted for me)
2020hindsights
Wandora
It had everything to do with the case. And to be fair, you can't deny that he said those things.
Yes, it would.
Doubt it. Trump's finished.
Cards fan
And did Trump come back? Well? Trump has never one the popular vote. That's a fact. You think he's going to be more popular now that he's been proven a sexual abuser and now that he's been indicted? lol okay.
browny1
Geez - what a boor.
I actually thought - ha, ha - that he'd use this opportunity to not change his spots, but to try to pick up some of the non-committed voters - the votes he will need come election time.
Like it's not everyday he's going to get the chance to appeal more broadly esp on CNN, as in moderate his tone and give some thoughtful answers to back up his opinions. He can have his opinions - but backed with a little research to balance crafted replies that creates a sense of well - yes that's an interesting point.
Instead it was just a quack, quack, quack fest tailored to his devotees.
Lie, Scoff, Insult, Lie Scoff, Insult repeat ad nauseum.
So Sad.
Ans sadder still are those who are enamored by his guffaw guffaw boorishness.
Jimizo
I don’t believe he believes what he’s shoveling.
Preying on idiots he fleeces for cash.
Isn’t the first, won’t be the last.
EFD
Here is a list of things Trump is incapable of doing:
Telling the truth under oath
Expressing empathy
Keeping his hands to himself
Following legal or political advice.
Winning a popular vote or an electoral college majority
Ever being in the White House again in ANY role or circumstance.
finally rich
That was the worst so called 'moderating' i ever saw from a 'moderator'. She was debating, arguing and talking over Trump so much she might as well run for president herself, yikes
Blacklabel
Doesn’t need to. He lost by 44,000 votes in 3 swing states.
your + 7 million shrinks to next to nothing without NY and CA. Electoral college is all or nothing that’s how we do our elections. So lose California by 1 or lose by 10 million, it’s irrelevant.
deanzaZZR
This is the guy that was found guilty of sexual assault yesterday, right? CNN has been bad for some time now but giving this man a platform to continue to lie at this time is taking bad to another level entirely.
It's looking rather bleak for America in the short and medium term.
Blacklabel
then how was he president for 4 years?
Cards fan
Hanging your hat on anomaly there. lol Love the argument here. Technically, he doesn't have to win. He can just sneak by. lol
bass4funk
So liberals believe in what and which part, their stats or the other?
Not so sure about that one, especially now with what we know thanks to Musk, Taibbi, Schollenberger and the House hearings from former Twitter execs, before you even try, doesn't matter, we don't believe the left on this anymore, especially with all the info, DM, emails and documents that we have.
They will try.....(again) for what though, anyone's guess....
Then Biden needs to worry as well, Pence too for that matter.
Allegedly. Again, this was a civil, not a criminal case, big difference like owning a home and renting one.
Well, you have the 2nd amendment, racism, starving Americans, homelessness, devaluing of the dollar, mobs attacking people, defunding of the police, wokism, and people thinking that biological men are equal ti biological-born women
Depends, maybe not in Blue States, but definitely in Red States.
Not just one, multiple polls
I would disagree with that statement
He will not go to prison
Sununu will never, ever be President of the US.
sunfunbun
His base loves the town hall, as do the people seated there, laughing off a rape.
But it was all lies. He kept up his narrative and while it appeases the lie loving supporters, there isn't a moderate Republican nor any voter who keeps hearing these lies believing him.
It's amusing how foolish his supporters are to think this wasn't detrimental. He didn't help himself in the long run, he confirmed he's a liar and reminds all why he is such a target for those who will ultimately and sensibly put him down, and I'm talking conservative non support.
CNN may be getting heat for putting him on, but lies are lies, and he never quit lying.
Trump will gain immediate gains within a week or so, but thereafter? The initial pump from being on national television saying whatever lie he wanted affects the weak minded to cheer, but within a month?
The lies scrutinized, the insults no longer cute and laughable, and the truth again overcomes his disinformation.
Blacklabel
No literally he doesn’t have to win the popular vote.
not how we count in our country. Maybe educate yourself on how our country works compared to yours?
EFD
Yeah, we know. That's how he won in 16. He has never won a popular vote. Maybe that's why he is so universally unpopular?
But that's not happening again. Everyone but the cultiest of his rubes are done with him.
Blacklabel
post town hall panel-
CNN: Don’t you wish he would quit talking about 2020?
Voter: Uhh the first question you asked him was about 2020
They think you’re stupid.
Bob Fosse
“In fact, Trump said, Pence was the one who “did something wrong.”
It takes a ‘special’ kind of mind to support this ‘logic’. Thankfully, as before, those kind of thinkers are a minority and dwindling to hateful little nubs by the day.
Blacklabel
There was no rape, that was rejected.
Ricky Kaminski13
Trumps being his usual clownish self, and having a ball doing it, but I simply can’t get my head around Biden thinking he can run again, never mind defeat anyone. It’s as plain as day he is not all there. Doesn’t seem to know where he even is half the time. The memes, which were funny for a while, have become just sad.
How could the democrats even think that him running again is even a viable option? I hazard a guess most don’t. Or have you guys really bought into that “collective” mindset ideal, where you think you don’t even need a capable and articulate leader at the helm, and that the group itself is enough?? Yikes. That’s another possibility. Surely someone with some sense should’ve stepped in. Unfortunately Kamala is another cringeworthy, walking disaster too so the options aren’t great are they? Now, the boogeyman Trump has an actual shot and stepping back into the spotlight and even, dare I say it winning! When life imitates art.
Also, why no mention of Desantis, a very real contender? Seems very calculated and deliberate.
Maybe journalists should stop treating people like mugs. Most see the world a lot clearer than they may like to think.
Kaarn America! Lift your game.
Thanks,
Australia ( one Aussie actually , but while we are speaking collectives! )
Blacklabel
He is beating Joe. he doesn’t have to win popular vote and only needs to be more popular than 1 person: Joe Biden.
who is so unpopular that he has the lowest approval rate at this point in a term of any President- ever in history.
bass4funk
They did that with Clinton as well in 1992 and there wasn't even a trial. Juanita Broderick never took her accuser to court because she was threatened not to.
If you think they are lies, then that is what you think, there are people that think the opposite and there are plenty of conservatives that will never vote for an establishment RINO GOP.
Why?
I think the current admin has a deep problem telling the truth, a very deep problem, but thankfully people are now realizing that. A lot of conservatives see it and it definitely helps Trump.
That is the reason why CNN fired so many people, can't even keep track over the years.
More as we are seeing the needle moving up.
Well, the left should have thought of that earlier, but they didn't and their roosters are coming home to roost.
Ricky Kaminski13
Oops, Desantis there at the end. Busted. My bad!!
Blacklabel
Go watch Rick Wilson “Lincoln project”, a notorious Trump hater on Twitter.
he is so mad at CNN and claims that Trump just won the nomination thanks to them.
rolling stone super mad too.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-cnn-town-hall-network-insiders-disgrace-1234733328/amp/
cry harder.
Blacklabel
By simply quoting what AOC said?
EFD
He was there, it happened. He was found unanimously by a jury of his peers guilty in less than 3 hours. He gets to pay $5 million for his actions.
This is legally an accepted fact.
It's a distinction without a difference.
EFD
There is no universe in which he wins back either the voters who abandoned him in 2020 or new younger voters.
He is an unlikeable, lying, xenophobic, racist, mysoginist buffoon and the non-cult portion of the electorate sees him as such.
Oh, and he is going to prison as well. So there is that too.
bass4funk
Allegedly, you don't know if she was raped or not, no one does.
Yes, in a city that hates him, he got less than 20% of the vote, so who is surprised? I know I'm not.
Ok
In a civil case, not a criminal.
There are huge differences between the two.
bass4funk
I disagree
Some may think that half of the country doesn't. Ever listen to what the Dems say about their own leader?
No, he won't
sunfunbun
It was rejected by the jury, but not by Carroll.
She's adamant he raped her. Very much, like the metoo movement on Weinstein, he said he didn't do it, when the women were adamant it happened. I believe Carroll over a ubiquitous liar like Trump.
Blacklabel
her own words mock her and the entire audience laughed too due to the absurdity of the story as told.
and her and many others being upset at CNN shows that Trump delivered a Dems took a hard loss to Dems tonight.
bass4funk
No, she embarrassed herself on multiple occasions.
There's tons of stuff like this of nutty outrageous things that she said, again, I am glad when Santos is gone, I agree with all the criticism, but to make it like AOC supporters are just intellectually savvier than Santos is on its face laughable, both sides (the voters) got played by these con artists.
Ditto
bass4funk
I personally believe Trump, I just don't see it happening.
Cards fan
The average Trump voter is!
Bordeaux
At the time when Carroll alleges Trump raped her, the statute of limitations for rape in the state of New York was five years.
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a former district attorney, said during a town hall event in New Hampshire on Wednesday that he believes "the woman was a victim." He further told CBS News' Robert Costa on Wednesday that he believes Trump "has not treated women with the highest regard," which he said "should be part of how we judge a future president."
EFD
The jury was so on the fence that he was there and that he sexually assaulted her, that it took them all of 3 hours to award her $5 million.
And hanging your hat on the "rape" part gives away the game. To be guilty of sexual battery (the actual charge) the Jury had to find that using bodily force and against her consent or will, he penetrated her vagina (as she testified). The jury agreed that this happened.
What they could not determine was if it was digitally only or with his penis. We know from her testimony that he attempted to. Her testimony is that he did and eventually she was able to fight him off.
So, long story short, it is now a legally accepted fact that he was there, he assaulted her sexually. He would have completed the rape if he had had the chance.
As any sentient being can tell, it is indeed a distinction without a difference. Both for her and for his wallet.
And the more his rubes make excuses for him, the more that any woman who has ever experienced this as well thinks "oh, THAT kind of person. Nope"
wallace
Trump has also been charged criminally for fraud. 34 felony counts of business fraud by the Manhattan district attorney's office.
Yrral
CNN should know better
rcch
Unbelievable.
WA4TKG
Keep trash talking Trump while the country implodes from inept / corrupt “Leadership”.
lincolnman
Well, there is one universe - the 'Delusion" universe, also known as MAGA-world... You have to suspend reality to enter...
Indeed they do...and I would just add he is "Putin's Poodle"...
With the recorded conversation to Raffensperger on "finding" votes, the written deposition from his lawyer that "there is no more classified at Mar-A-Lago" (there was), a Mar-A-Lago insider now cooperating with the Special Prosecutor on his obstructing justice, and the 8 fake Georgia electors all coping an immunity deal for testimony against him means Trump should buy his orange jumpsuit now...
He'll be in his BFF Manafort's or Weissleberg's old cell by 2024...
EFD
On record pace for legislation and federal judges. Gas prices are down. Employment and wages are up. Inflation is flattening out and America is leading democracies.
Don't know what planet you are living on.
But I will gladly continue to trash Trump for the things that he absolutely positively has done.
Thank you for the permission.
bass4funk
Bragg never outlined and told him the charges? Bragg, with each passing day, is making himself look more ridiculous and like a political hack and a Soros stooge than a serious prosecutor.
buchailldana
Just as you think he has reached his peak of dishonesty and nefariousness he outdoes himself.
The man suffers from some serious psychological problems.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I see they got the indictment photo of Trump for this story. It really shows his best side.
EFD
You think? His hair looks a bit frizzy and the front has that low-energy droop to it. It kind of matches his neck waddle.
And was it just me or was the angle on his deposition a pathetic attempt to hide a bald spot on the back of his head that no amount of comb-over or shellac could conceal?
TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump said he would end the war in 24 hours. The only solution Putin will take in the next 24 hours is complete surrender. Simple as.
EFD
Chris Christy seems to have reached the same conclusion.
It seems that drawing conclusions from evidence and nuance are beyond some of their lot.
dagon
AOC for Democrat presidential nominee 2024. Everything the right fears and watch them explode.
Her SNS game is way beyond Trump, she would make him a slobbering Boomer in the debate, he could only win by physically assaulting her, oh wait, and it would show the Dems can play the accelerationism game as well as the right.
wallace
Trump probably paid for the audience to attend.
Peter Neil
When a five-time bankrupt, draft dodging, daddy’s money, serial liar, carnival huckster is the darling of right, it’s a sad day in America.