Trump hails North Korea's 'awesome potential'

Toasted Heretic:

Ignorance is bliss, eh.

We agree on something! Finally.

Kenji Fujimori:

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again?

The US alone did not chose Vietnam, obviously both parties agreed on it. One reason is clearly that Kim could get there by train, another is that is an clear example of a direction that Kim could head to in a coming regime change.

I’m quite excited by the prospect of getting on a train in Busan and disembarking in Paris.....

If you're going to compare attrocities best not to use america and its friends. That's the point.

Why not? Again, does one cancel the other out somehow? If it doesn't, then your comparison with America is irrelevant to the conversation.

In the real world, outside the CNN propaga bubble, people have noticed that Trumps approach of carrot, stick, and political theater is working.

The US is in a weaker position with NK now than it was prior to Trump. In the Fox bubble, they tell the lies you repeated above.

Outside the CNN bubble, people have noticed that NK propaganda has shifted from nuclear threats to peace, that there have been no NK missile firings or threats of the same for a year, and that NK is not only talking to SK but relaxing visas and building roads,

Outside the Fox bubble, the people see that Trump has legitimized Un in the eyes of his people, giving him propaganda material galore, and has made concessions to NK while receiving nothing in return. Outside the Fox bubble, we see that the best Trump has done is manage to scale down the crisis he escalated in the first place.

Un, a dictator who has been known to tie his political enemies to the front of an anti-aircraft cannon, and then blow them to smithereens. This is the man who Trump heaps praises on.

It is kind of sad to see that this cheap political propaganda is believed by people, including a whole bunch of notorious Trump hating regressive leftists on this site.

Ignorance is bliss, eh.

Trump has achieved nothing. He went against advice and rushed into the June summit. He falsely claimed that the DPRK was no longer a threat, despite his people telling him otherwise.

Kind of sad to see the cult of Trump people believe his propaganda.

But not unexpected.

What would constitute success for you? 

Avoiding war and progress on denuking N Korea and in inter-Korean relations and engaging N Korea with the international community.

Um, anything to say about the historical event underway here, lincoln?

What would constitute success for you? I’d guess an approving reaction from Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity with a link.

I’m just interested in what people think would constitute success here. Too many seem to be talking about a victory for Trump or a failure before anything has been decided.

Some folks here are afraid Trump might actually do something historic and groundbreaking.

Like telling the truth about Trump Tower Moscow...

Fear this event or anything good coming out of negotiations instead of hostilities, would have inevitable consequences, the least of which - a prize given by Norwegians, or his re-election, his to take if he does a good job.

Robert Mueller's report will definitely have consequences - and the sooner those consequences come, the better...

Best of luck, Mr. President! The majority of Americans, the Asian region and the world wish you well.

During your stint at Leavenworth...

"May the road rise to meet you; may the wind be at your back."

And with his girth, it better be an F5 tornado. Oh no, the hair....

*Trump must want to run the Ryugyong Hotel. Turn it into Trump Tower Pyongyang.*

It'll still be called the Ryugyong Hotel, but it will be renovated by Trump and there will be a Burger King in it.

Oooops - Wallace - did you read my whole post?

I thought I gave a clear impression that Kim is on a crusade to bathe in "Glory" regenerating the aura of his grandfather. He is a very astute player. He is not a fool.

But the world media and hob-nobs all lap it up and fail to mention his demonic ways against his own country-folk, you know for fear of upsetting the apple cart so as to speak.

And I have no clue as to what you mean by comparing massacres perpetrated by others??? What point are you trying to make.

Wallace FredToday 08:18 pm JST

And he will be feted by the annointed ones, even though he has slaughtered 100,000s of his own people.

Only? Does that outnumber those massacres perpetrated by america and its allies? What sort of point are you trying to make?

Are you trying to make the argument that they cancel each other out, and therefore neither can be criticized? If not, what exactly is the above point supposed to mean?

If you're going to compare attrocities best not to use america and its friends. That's the point.

 There are problems with Japan's democratic process, but regardless it's a democratic process.

I see. Well this is Webster's definition. After the Okinawa debacle, do pray tell what aspects of this definition are applicable to refer to japan as a democratic national?

government by the people

especially : rule of the majority

b

: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Does that outnumber those massacres perpetrated by america and its allies?

Are you trying to make the argument that they cancel each other out, and therefore neither can be criticized? If not, what exactly is the above point supposed to mean?

And he will be feted by the annointed ones, even though he has slaughtered 100,000s of his own people.

Only? Does that outnumber those massacres perpetrated by america and its allies? What sort of point are you trying to make?

And do you think japans a democracy?

As a country with elections. Yes. There are problems with Japan's democratic process, but regardless it's a democratic process.

Vietnam is a developing and different country today, though they are still communist like China.

And do you think japans a democracy? Have you seen what's happening in Okinawa? Wake up man!! The cold war days ended eons ago. It's time to build bridges.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Trump really needs to be careful about who he gets into bed with. Of course, Chins will be pleased to see him making friends with the DPRK. However, the people on this little island in the pacific are not going to be so pleased.

Trump must want to run the Ryugyong Hotel. Turn it into Trump Tower Pyongyang.

Well done trump! He plays a hard game, but in the end he gets all to come around. Great business man , great president.

It is funny to watch the corporate media try desperately to turn the NK situation into another Trump bashing story. It is kind of sad to see that this cheap political propaganda is believed by people, including a whole bunch of notorious Trump hating regressive leftists on this site.

Some people here don't appear to know what Communism actually is. Read up on what Communism actually is. It certainly does not describe China. I don't know much about Vietnam overall - I've only been there once and spent it on a beach - but I don't believe Vietnam fits the description of Communism either.

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again?

Because it's a hassle to host these talks. You canimagine the security measures and the cost. It's a burden on the locals as well. I for one am glad since I'm in Singapore right now.

Denuclearization or hypocrisy , either words ,what do they actually mean , and who does it best serve. how come the US wants to create its own rules, by deciding who shall it serve best. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons. The hypocrisy lies with the US foreign policy, if you check out the link you'll see that India, Pakistan and North Korea have the capability having successfully tested Nuclear weapons. But I can' t seem to find Iran on that list, and yet, Pakistan, a haven for terrorists and an unstable political system has, but is not part of the US strategy , why I wonder. North Korea doesn't harbor terrorists but it is deemed a threat but Pakistan isn't, confused !!. Getting back to Iran, who are considered funders of terrorism, that is questionable, correct me if I'm wrong or have made mistake, but Iran has not produced or tested a Nuclear device, and is abiding by a treaty that the US pulled out of, much to the delight of Israel. So is this really about the US wanting North Korea to denuclearize or is this just a PR stunt for Trump and the Trump organization to further their business interests, here in the far east, remember Trump tower Moscow.

Kenji FujimoriToday 04:11 pm JST

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again? isn't it a dark memory? what do the American Vietnam veterans think of it? Vietnam is a developing and different country today, though they are still communist like China.

Kenji - I think you'll find it was Kims idea to hold it in Vietnam.

His grandfather Kim il Sung did the same trip in 1958 and met Ho Chi Minh.

It's retracing his grandfathers footsteps and trying to recreate himself in the same glory days image.

Trump is but a piece of his "Grand Coming Out" ceremony to announce to the world - "I have arrived".

And he will be feted by the annointed ones, even though he has slaughtered 100,000s of his own people.

Vietnam is booming, but the government will soon squash that unless they learn to clean up the corruption and back off.

I’m not sure. The CCP are corrupt as hell and China has seen incredible economic growth without the government backing off.

To speak honestly, Vietnam is no longer Communist. The people are free to start businesses, travel and live a peaceful life.

That depends on who you ask. Yes, people in Vietnam need permission from the very corrupt government for every little thing - though they rarely get it without a bribe. On the other hand, there is no free medical care to speak of in Vietnam - probably easier to get good medical care for free in the bad old USA.

Vietnam is booming, but the government will soon squash that unless they learn to clean up the corruption and back off. I don't know how you can say China is more Communist than Vietnam. Both governments are oppressive. Vietnam maybe less so, for cultural reasons and because they don't have the money and advanced technology that would allow repression on the scale of China.

PRC is Communist. NK is moving away from that model now

Since when?

@Texas A&M Aggie & @kawabegawa198

Yes, he's also one of the most criminal presidents in your country's history. In bed with the arabs, the russians and NK. Doing only what is good for his personal business.

The only real correct answer is that trump should be impeached, tried for treason and possibly executed for his crimes against your country and the world.

If you think otherwise, I guess you're a part of that great 'americans are dumb' stereotype.. buut whatever floats your boat.

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again? isn't it a dark memory?

I'm sure the US is over losing the war in Vietnam. Japan would do well to do the same in regards to WWII.

Trump finally made it to Vietnam. Seems as though his bone spurs got better as he became older.

@ Deadforgood. PRC is Communist. NK is moving away from that model now, especially if the Summit with Trump is a success. Russia is not Communist but was in the Soviet times.

NK has the largest amounts of unmined rare metals in the world...

"The Democrats should stop talking about what I should do with North Korea and ask themselves instead why they didn’t do it during eight years of the Obama Administration?" he said on Twitter.

He's got a point (and the dems know it).

To speak honestly, Vietnam is no longer Communist. The people are free to start businesses, travel and live a peaceful life. The economy is soaring. All the opposite of Communist PRC.

Really? You don't think they are communists? I guess you believe China, NK, and Russia are also not communist nations then, right? lol

Trump is right again. North Korea is a great country and is developing rapidly. If Trump does a deal with Chairman Kim, and the missiles stay grounded, kidnappees are freed finally, USA and Japanese investment will flood into North Korea. Win-win. Japanese government will oversee development of high speed rail, auto industry, food and beverage production and so on. Keep the talks going, Trump and Chairman Kim!

Vietnam is a developing and different country today, though they are still communist like China.

China is not communist.

To speak honestly, Vietnam is no longer Communist. The people are free to start businesses, travel and live a peaceful life. The economy is soaring. All the opposite of Communist PRC.

Trump has little or no real interest in North Korea or its nuclear weapons. He understands neither one. What he does understand is that this is his opportunity to get a Nobel prize. (Remember Obama got one). That is why South Korea and Japan are being pressed to nominate Trump for the peace prize. It's all about Trump's ego, always has been, always will be.

Trump is right to flatter Kim Jong Un’s ego.

Embargo and sanctions haven’t worked so far.

PDJT doing for a second time what no democrat/RINO CinC never did in nearly 70 years: meeting with a North Korean head of state.

“PDJT” once again giving the dictator of NK validity and propaganda, something no president has been stupid enough to do until now.

Worst. President. Ever.

Laguna

Yeah I get it, though such an event should be held in an open and democratic country and Vietnam is communist. It is a sign to point to Kim to open up and see the world through a different light, instead of siding with his commie buddies..

What a fantastic POTUS he has been. Let's hope he wins again in 2020.

PDJT doing for a second time what no democrat/RINO CinC never did in nearly 70 years: meeting with a North Korean head of state.

Greatest. President. Ever.

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again?

Kenji, I think Trump wants to show Kim that NK can denuclearize and open up to the world a bit without the Kim dynasty losing power. It might have well been held in Beijing. It is an interesting gambit, but I doubt it will work.

And the photo above will infuriate my Vietnamese friends in Orange County, CA.

*I think you mean the hamberder-eating and sickly PotUS has to tell Kim a whopper.*

Har! And the whopper has to be even bigger than the one Burger King makes! Tee hee!

Burger King - Pyongyang location coming 2020.

The potential is AWESOME

Everything is cool when you're part of a team.

Trump said late last year he and Kim "fell in love", and on the eve of his departure for the second summit said they had developed "a very, very good relationship".

If a Democrat president had said that, the Republicans would be up in arms.

A dictator who executes members of his own family, that's the kind of friend you want...

To seal the deal Trump just has to have a Burger King approved chef there make Kim a Whopper.

I think you mean the hamberder-eating and sickly PotUS has to tell Kim a whopper.

In the run-up to the summit, Trump has indicated a more flexible stance, saying he is in no rush to secure North Korea's denuclearization.

Because he knows he can't. Certainly not back when he claimed that the DPRK no longer posed a nuclear threat, and not now.

Of course, some will ignore this change in the narrative and claim this was Trump playing multidimensional chess etc, but the man is desperately seeking some kind of "win".

Watch the narrative jump backwards and forwards over the next few days.

For Trump, a deal that eases the North Korean threat could hand him a big foreign-policy achievement in the midst of domestic troubles

To seal the deal Trump just has to have a Burger King approved chef there make Kim a Whopper.

Vietnamese carrier Bamboo Airways

It's more than just a flight.

Out of curiousity, why did the US chose Vietnam as the venue and not Singapore again? isn't it a dark memory? what do the American Vietnam veterans think of it? Vietnam is a developing and different country today, though they are still communist like China.