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Trump launches re-election campaign, presenting himself as outsider and victim

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I'll never for when then candidate Trump and Senator Marco Rubio talked about the size of Trumps hands, as a reference to his penis at a Republican Party nominations debate. For me, this way the day the music died...

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Pathetic.

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Well, looks like the Democrats will have their work cut out for them. Over 25,000 recorded people in attendance, setting up screens outside thousands more. The Democrats are just not taking this seriously and at their own political peril.

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Make no mistake, the term 'illegal immigration' is being used to bait members of his base that have a tendency to have some racial anxiety. When I was a kid, the language was a bit more direct and derogatory. Now, it's much more coded.

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"Don't play the victim to circumstances you created."

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"I promise you I will never ever let you down."

Wrong answer, Jack .... sorry, Donnie of course!

You let them, the people of the US as well as quite a few other (nations) down.

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Spent much of his stage slagging off Clinton who isn't even running. Another favorite potty mouth was the fake press.

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Well, looks like the Democrats will have their work cut out for them. Over 25,000 recorded people in attendance, setting up screens outside thousands more. The Democrats are just not taking this seriously and at their own political peril.

So in other words the president of the United States is unable to draw crowds larger than the 3rd place Seattle Mariners did to an average game last season?

I'm sure the Democratic party is quaking in its boots at that.

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"I promise you I will never ever let you down."

he told Ivana and Marla

Why does he need to announce that he's running for re-election? He's been campaigning since the day after the inauguration. It would be a lot more worthy of an announcement if he decided to let America off the hook and not run again.

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The Democrats are just not taking this seriously and at their own political peril.

Who isn’t taking it seriously and what did they say?

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"As long as you keep this team in place,

Its essentially a team of one, supported by his daughter and son-in-law.

All the others play musical chairs.

He could have said, 'As long as you keep this liar in place, supported by his dumb daughter and clueless son-in-law , we'll keep running the country to the ground'.

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With prosperous economy and low unemployment rate, for any other sitting President, this would be a slam dunk. But Trump's biggest problem is about 6 of 10 Americans don't like him - even Trump's internal pollsters that were leaked showed that

"Trump Fires Pollsters After Leaked Internal Polls Show Him Losing To Biden In Key States"

https://upolitics.com/news/trump-fires-pollsters-after-leaked-internal-polls-show-him-losing-to-biden-in-key-states/

So, the big question is: can voters set that dislike aside vs. they don't like him enough regardless of the economy

The fact that the President’s approval rating has held steady (which is to say, has held steadily low at around 40%) — no matter when improving economic conditions — suggests that the economy is not swaying people's minds

So Trump's expected strategy is to get voters to also dislike his opponent as much as they dislike him - because if they're both disliked by the voters, then that's when he can use the economy as the tie-breaker

Of note for the opposition Party nomination contenders though like Biden, the early front-runners for the Party nomination - it's not uncommon that the early front-runners don't get the Party nomination at the end (just the way history works)

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According to polls Ivanka is more popular than her donny dad.

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shook up the Washington establishment four years ago

Which part of the Washington establishment? 

Certainly not the part of the establishment that includes DC swamp lifers like Ron Barr, Bolton, Pompeo etal. They're each key members of his administration.

How about Elaine Chao, recycled bureaucrat from the Bush 43 admin, wife of corrupt Sen. Mitch McConnell, scion to an international shipping family.

Certainly not the military industrial complex part of the US establishment. Trump's appointed people from Boeing and Raytheon, two of the world’s three largest defense contractors to lead the Department of Defense.

Certainly not the big energy part of the US establishment. Look at Ryan Zinke, Scott Pruit and others Trump’s appointed to the Department of the Interior and Environmental Protection Agency and how they’re doing Trump and the ‘establishment’s’ bidding in tearing down environmental protection to make things better for ‘established’ corporations.

Certainly not Wall Street. Mnuchin (Goldman Sachs) etal.

Certainly not the military. Look at the retired generals.

Certainly not the Republican nabobs in the Senate. Look at Trump’s backing from Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham etal.

The ‘establishment’ is used as a pejorative by those unable to explain what they mean. (Like ‘deep state’, ‘globalist’ and others.) 

Only those unwilling to look deeper than Trump’s speeches and headlines would accept he’s not part of the establishment. He's helped wealthy Americans more than any president in modern history.

Trump is an outsider in many ways that should worry Americans. His outside connections to Moscow and Israel especially.

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Democrats "want to destroy our country as we know it"

Well if America is really the kind of place people like bass tell us it is, that might not be such a bad idea.

Gang-related no-go zones, medical bankruptcy, mass shootings, rampant prescription-opioid addiction, white supremacist violence..... Knock it down and start again might be the only way.

"We believe our country should be a sanctuary for law-abiding citizens,

like Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort. Michael Cohen, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, and other shady characters Trump placed among his 'best people'?

Vote Trump, vote for the death of your soul.

That don' worry Trump supporters none. Dey ain't got no soul in da foist place.

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The farcical drama queen occupant of the White House is pitiful. He was elected once ... shame on him. If he’s re-elected, shame on We the People of the United States of America.

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Biden/Buttigieg 2020

Can't possibly lose against Trump/Pence, right?

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Spent much of his stage slagging off Clinton who isn't even running. Another favorite potty mouth was the fake press.

No wrong in taking a victory lap.

Gang-related no-go zones, medical bankruptcy, mass shootings, rampant prescription-opioid addiction, white supremacist violence..... Knock it down and start again might be the only way.

Doesn't sound all that much different from Europe, replace guns with knives, a slowly bankrupting medical entitlement system slowing down, the far right gaining more and more power...

Dlike Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort. Michael Cohen, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, and other shady characters Trump placed among his 'best people'?

Funny, as if Trump had a crystal ball and could peer I to their lives. I mean, look at Biden with all the stuff we know, wonder why Obama, his buddy is not giving him a full endorsement?

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if the Dems stifle Bernie again and prop up another corporate Democrat like Biden, good luck to them....

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So what was the difference with any other Trump rally ?

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Doesn't sound all that much different from Europe, replace guns with knives

*There were 17,284 homicides in the US in 2017, giving a rate of 5.3 per 100,000. In Britain, there were 785 in financial year 2017/18 — the nearest equivalent time period — giving a rate of 1.8 per 100,000, some three times lower.*

Within this, there were 285 knife murders in England and Wales in 2017/18 — the highest number since the Second World War — and 34 in Scotland, giving a combined British rate of 0.48 per 100,000. In the US, the number for 2017 was 1,591, giving an almost identical rate of 0.49.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/18/deadly-knife-crime-how-does-london-compare-to-new-york

So, knife crime is about the same in Britain and the US, plus the US has all that gun-related stuff in addition.

Looks like things would be a lot better if the US were actually not that much different from Europe. Pity it's nearly three times worse.

Funny, as if Trump had a crystal ball and could peer I to their lives

It's called screening. Doesn't work when the screen is full of holes, of course.

I mean, look at Biden with all the stuff we know

All what stuff we know? That he has in the past touched ladies on their shoulders, smelled their hair and even kissed them in less PC days - and apologised for it when it was pointed out to him that it was inappropriate? Compared with the Great Orange Serial-Cheater Pussy-Grabber? No contest.

I note and appreciate the fact that you have no comeback to the charge of soul-deficiency.

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Trump is an outsider in many ways that should worry Americans. His outside connections to Moscow and Israel especially.

I have to buy some tin foil today. What brand do you recommend?

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He is an outsider and a victim of the relentless targeting. I just found out today that something he did benefit me. Maybe I will actually get off my lazy ass and vote for him. Maybe.

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US voters will have the power to savage their nation but I doubt that they will because Trump is a symptom of US society, a mirror of US society. Not until the nations of the world regain their sovereignty and stand up to the US will anything change. We are looking at more wars and more suffering as the US tries to maintain global dictatorship.

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*So, knife crime is about the same in Britain and the US, plus the US has all that gun-related stuff in addition.*

Don't forget to factor in the size of the US, the 2nd amendment and and the influx of MS-13 to our nation. The 2nd amendment helps with keeping us safe.

Looks like things would be a lot better if the US were actually not that much different from Europe. Pity it's nearly three times worse.

Hmmmm.....I don’t believe that. I was there this January and naw, I prefer the States, feel much better, definitely safer.

It's called screening. Doesn't work when the screen is full of holes, of course.

Smart phones, IPads, love Steve Jobs....well, Tim Cook now.

All what stuff we know? That he has in the past touched ladies on their shoulders, smelled their hair and even kissed them in less PC days -

Creepy.

and apologised for it when it was pointed out to him that it was inappropriate? Compared with the Great Orange Serial-Cheater Pussy-Grabber? No contest.

Let’s not forget, you might not know this as a Brit, but following American politics since forever, I remember Biden being the ultimate gaffe machine, now Biden has had a cake wall this entire time, but if any of the other socialists want to gain in the poles, they will have to tear Biden apart, essentially helping Trump in the process. So whether it’s the Hyde Amendment, Abortion, comments he said bout Blacks, race and Anita Hill (who could ever forget that spectacle) his chickens are coming faster home to roost than buying a 12 piece bucket of KFC.

lol I note and appreciate the fact that you have no comeback to the charge of soul-deficiency.

I just did and then some.

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Trump is an outsider in many ways that should worry Americans. His outside connections to Moscow and Israel especially.

@commanteer I have to buy some tin foil today. What brand do you recommend?

If people seriously don't think Trump has connections to either Moscow or Israel, I doubt tin foil will do them any good.

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JustMyThoughts - I'll never for when then candidate Trump and Senator Marco Rubio talked about the size of Trumps hands, as a reference to his penis at a Republican Party nominations debate. For me, this way the day the music died...

People hear what they want to hear.

p.s. Rubio lost, Trump won.

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US voters will have the power to savage their nation but I doubt that they will because Trump is a symptom of US society, a mirror of US society.

We wouldn’t have a Trump if we didn’t have an Obama or a Hillary.

Not until the nations of the world regain their sovereignty and stand up to the US will anything change.

But that won’t happen, Obama to one of his limited credits tried to isolate the US, didn’t take long for Europe to bang on our doors, now that Trump wants to do it, he’s the devil? Honestly, I’m so confused. You hate us, but you need us.

We are looking at more wars and more suffering as the US tries to maintain global dictatorship.

What? Huh?

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Being a victim is very popular these days.

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Victim. Lol.

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bass4funk: "but following American politics since forever"? You mean American propaganda!

You are a perfect example of what I said: Trump is a mirror of US society, a symptom. And this is why both the US and the globe has a bleak future.

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cleo - That don' worry Trump supporters none. Dey ain't got no soul in da foist place.

The Democrats have a lot of obstacles to overcome. Their far-leftist candidates, the illegal alien border crossing crisis, and the results of the investigation of the investigators which will be determined, announced, and charges laid, before Nov 2020. The Democrats are in a race with the clock. Can they stop the voters from finding out just how low they had sunk in their efforts to undermine, and to overthrow, a Republican presidential candidate and President? Tick tock.

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I'm sorry but aren't these people ment to improve our lives?

it does seem they now improve their own lives and tell us to suck it up.

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You hate us, but you need us.

I can assure you this isn't the case.

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Sorry I should have added that I'm waving a pièce of cloth with ink on it. Everyday.

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Is it me, or does even the TITLE of this supposed article start off BIASED.

Isn't News supposed to be simple reporting of FACTS and NOT a place to impose a "View".

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He should just run on the same platform. New NAFTA agreement, new healthcare plan, new Middle East plan, new plan for the environment, a wall, a denuclearize North Korea, new trade agreements, etc. Ya know, everything he promised and didn't deliver on.

But say something like, "But it's really gonna happen this time."

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Don't forget to factor in the size of the US

Size isn't a factor when you're talking in per 100,000s. I take it you didn't do very well in maths at school?

the 2nd amendment and and

Yes, that is a problem that isn't going to go away unless the whole structure is torn down and built up again. Glad to see you recognise that.

the influx of MS-13 to our nation.

Influx?? MS-13 was born in the US, to protect one set of gangs from another set of gangs in the US. (Gangs formed from Salvadoran refugees from the San Salvador civil war, whose requests for asylum status in the US were neglected so that the refugees were left undocumented and vulnerable to exploitation, racial prejudice and persecution). It's the US that deported MS-13 to other parts of the Americas.

In 2018, the gang accounted for less than 1 percent (10,000) of total gang members in the United States (1.4 million), and a similar share of gang murders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13

So how to you explain the other 99% of gang murders in the US?

Smart phones, IPads, love Steve Jobs....well, Tim Cook now.

What?? Do you need to lie down for a while?

I remember Biden being the ultimate gaffe machine

And now he's been totally blown out of the gaffe water by the Trumpo Dumbo.

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Trump is a victim.......of his own idiocy!

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"You hate us, but you need us."

or

"You hate US, but you need US."

Nope, we don't hate America or its peoples but there are many serious question over the current occupier of the WH. All countries and its people wants to control their own destiny, rightly or wrongly.

We don't need a donny dump threatening us either by cancelling aid or threatening sanctions if we don't obey him. We don't need a donny dump meddling with the politics of our countries or trying to influence election outcomes.

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You mean American propaganda!

I stopped reading European history books a very long time ago.

You are a perfect example of what I said: Trump is a mirror of US society, a symptom.

God, I hope so. Keep hope alive.

And this is why both the US and the globe has a bleak future.

Our economy is great, I really don’t know what you are talking about.

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During his stage talk, Trump praised Reuters, called them a very good organisation and journalists. The above post is Reuters.

The 2nd amendment helps with keeping us safe.

The 2nd amendment kills more than 100 Americans every single day.

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Size isn't a factor when you're talking in per 100,000s. I take it you didn't do very well in maths at school?

Quite the opposite.

Yes, that is a problem that isn't going to go away unless the whole structure is torn down and built up again.

Again, the 2nd amendment is not going anywhere. Hunting season is upon us, can’t wait!

Influx?? MS-13 was born in the US,

I know that, but as we or at least in the US we know that thousands of El Salvadorian have been flocking to the US and bringing MS-13 with them, I just glad now Trump and ICE have the green light to send thousands back. Great day!

So how to you explain the other 99% of gang murders in the US?

Ask the Democrats, I wonder deeply about that myself and never can get a straight answer for some reason.

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What?? Do you need to lie down for a while?

I think that would be liberals especially what is now coming at them. ROFL!

And now he's been totally blown out of the gaffe water by the Trumpo Dumbo.

Yup, but at least Biden will never become President, so that’s one less headache to worry about. Lol

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starpunk - Typical narcissticism.

Lol. Democrats attack Trump, and then look for a shoulder to cry on when Trump counter-punches. How dare Trump treat Democrats, and Hillary worshippers, the same way Democrats, and Hillary worshippers, treat Trump.

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Running as an outside as the sitting President? Of course that is insane. But no matter as the Trump voters would not understand logic if it were spelled out on a red hat that they had on their heads. BTW no surprise the MAGA hat is red, probably Putin suggested that. Made in China too.

An empty chair would beat Trump as the Orlando endorsement clearly indicates. For normal people the WWE charade is over. Trump is a criminal and a liar and a lout. That is as clear as his fake comb over.

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The support for left or right, that's a circus. It's what is Brest for people, or is that too much to ask? These people get paid by us to bow to groups that have am agenda that doesn't improve anyone's life but some Atherial company.

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Slightly bizarre "speech" but seems to work for the faithful. His attacks on the "fake news" mob were a bit disconcerting. and some of his "facts" were not entirely correct. Unless the Dems can find a real showperson, he could well get a 2nd term......

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Our economy is great, I really don’t know what you are talking about.

For who? The upper class?

Its gonna be real funny watching Trump throw out the worst health care proposal in history next year while the GOP gasp in horror.

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Conservatives sure are masters at playing the victim card.

I sure hope Donny loses next year; however, as I said before, never underestimate the power of stupidity.

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I sure hope Donny loses next year; however, as I said before, never underestimate the power of stupidity.

Maybe twitter will ban his account too then. Certainly would be nice not hearing from him ever again after he's thrown out. Oh...wait, they won't need to. You can't tweet from a prison cell.

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Come the dysfunctional time, come the dysfunctional man.

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Running as an outside as the sitting President? Of course that is insane. But no matter as the Trump voters would not understand logic

Liberals don’t understand logic because if they did, they would know peddling socialism, raising taxes and impeaching Trump is a death sentence for the Democrats.

if it were spelled out on a red hat that they had on their heads. BTW no surprise the MAGA hat is red, probably Putin suggested that. Made in China too. 

Dear lord....lol...

An empty chair would beat Trump as the Orlando endorsement clearly indicates. For normal people the WWE charade is over. Trump is a criminal and a liar and a lout. That is as clear as his fake comb over.

Is that it? If verbal insults are the only thing that Democrats have, his re-election will be like flying Thai airlines, “smooth as silk.”

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Is that it? If verbal insults are the only thing that Democrats have, his re-election will be like flying Thai airlines, “smooth as silk.”

Well, the "dems" candidates approved by their politbureau seem to share a 2-point platform:

1) free stuff

2) orange man bad

Not exactly a genius level program, but then again they have the entire media propadanda machine on their side, and the social media companies are in full swing removing any contrarian content. So, never underestimate how many fools are out there.

That said, I saw one "dem" candidate who actually has a sensible platform. But she is solidly shut out by the neolib establishment.

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That said, I saw one "dem" candidate who actually has a sensible platform. But she is solidly shut out by the neolib establishment.

She is an experienced war veteran who makes sense and is anti-war and anti-imperialism. They can't have that - war is their bread and butter.

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commanteer:

She is an experienced war veteran who makes sense and is anti-war and anti-imperialism. They can't have that - war is their bread and butter.

Yep, exactly. She got the same treatment that Trump got from the establishment in his party.

It is weird to see that lots of mainstream media consumer still pretend that there is a difference between neocons and neolibs.

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I absolutely LOVE how Trump literally jumped out of the car when asked if he had actually read the report during the interview the other day. What a coward! hahaha. Definitely a victim of his own stupidity, yeah.

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You do not "shake up Washington" by appointing John Bolton. That's jumping into the swamp, not draining it.

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Article picks the lowest possible poll number out of all the rcp averages then still gets it wrong anyway.

he drew 25,000 plus people outside while most Dems get 200 on a good day.

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"took credit for a string economy"

Nah, it's still Obama's economy. It's just the national debt that's Trump's, lol.

Victim. Lol.

When you have 95% of the media saying only negative stuff about you, yeah, you could say you're a victim.

I absolutely LOVE how Trump literally jumped out of the car when asked if he had actually read the report during the interview the other day. What a coward! hahaha.

I absolutely love how Trump ignores stupid questions.

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I just don't really understand how anyone person with at least a fraction of common sense could be a Trump supporter. There's really no need to list all the things wrong with HIM. If you can watch any interview he has done and feel proud, I just...wow.

 As far as parties go, America is leaning to one side or the other waaaay to much. There are republicans and democrats who actually care about America. But it's more "interesting" to just negate the other side's proposals because they're on the blue or red team. And this donkey has been feuling that dumpster fire for way too long.

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Joe Biden has been on the government payroll for 20% of the entire history of the United States.

NOW he has some ideas of what to do? NOW he can cure cancer?

Trump sailing towards reelection unless Hillary called in from the bullpen.

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Over 25,000 recorded people in attendance...

In New York or California that would be scarily impressive. In Florida? No more than you'd expect.

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serrano,

I absolutely love how Trump ignores stupid questions.

You know the question was basically "Did you read the report that you are making false statements about?"

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WilliB said in reference to the Dems side -

"...but then again they have the entire media propadanda machine on their side, ..."

That's less than credible. Where did you get that info from?

Fox Noise makes the spinners dizzy - for starters.

Then begin to look at the Con printed media and then begin to look at the Con digital media....!

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Biden got 600 in Pennsylvania for his kick off. That's scarily not impressive. Bernie even got 4500.

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I just don't really understand how anyone person with at least a fraction of common sense could be a Trump supporter.

I just really don't understand how anyone with at least a fraction of common sense could not be a Trump supporter given the alternatives.

Trump sailing towards reelection unless Hillary called in from the bullpen.

Har!

Over 25,000 recorded people in attendance...

In New York or California that would be scarily impressive. In Florida? No more than you'd expect.

More than Biden or any of the Dems are gonna get at their next rally.

Biden/Buttigieg 2020 They can't lose!

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It is funny how people think 25,000 at a trump rally in a red state is impressive. Remember his inaugural speech crowd? It was laughable. BUT, since they believe everything Trump says, it must have been the biggest, most crowdiest, largest crowd at an inaugural speech ever in history.

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More than Biden or any of the Dems are gonna get at their next rally.

Biden/Buttigieg 2020 They can't lose!

You seem really concerned about the election. And even more concerned about how many people attend democratic rallies. You should learn to relax a bit. Your head isn't going to explode when Trump loses next year.

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You also know how much these things cost? Trump still owes El Paso 500,000 dollars from a rally he did in February. Probably won't pay it either, so the city is stuck with the bill (hey, what were they expecting? Trump has a history of not paying for services requested).

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That is the full capacity of the arena. Was more than the last guy or anybody else running, btw

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rally-attendance-appears-to-top-obamas-re-election-kickoff-rally

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You should learn to relax a bit. Your head isn't going to explode when Trump loses next year.

It's not? Tee hee!

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That is the full capacity of the arena. Was more than the last guy or anybody else running, btw

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rally-attendance-appears-to-top-obamas-re-election-kickoff-rally

I still don't understand what you are in awe of. Liberals have never really been the type to attend religious cult hearings.

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It's not? Tee hee!

Ok, I guess it will. Go on then, continue keeping track of how many people attend Trumps rallies.

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 the far right gaining more and more power...

more fake news, far right groups hardly made a ripplle in the last EU elections in May and are still a distant minority in the EU . what was noteworthy was the larger number of people that turned out to vote and more younger voters. EU is still prodominately center

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/27/european-elections-far-right-surge-ends-in-a-ripple

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What a coward! hahaha. Definitely a victim of his own stupidity, yeah.

Huh? Democrats again? Oh, boy!

In New York or California that would be scarily impressive. In Florida? No more than you'd expect.

And that’s very important in our US elections, especially for a Republican, Florida is absolutely crucial to winning the Presidency, so it seems he has that locked up with room t spare or as we say back at home.....gravy.

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It is funny how people think 25,000 at a trump rally in a red state is impressive.

Not a single Democrat got that many, not one, each time, yes, it’s very impressive, even the staunchest Democrats are worried about that.

Remember his inaugural speech crowd?

The inaugural crowd didn’t represent the people that voted for him. The country is bigger than that.

It was laughable.

I think it’s funny too, I hope the Democrats go as hard left as possible, make it easier for Trump, please!

BUT, since they believe everything Trump says, it must have been the biggest, most crowdiest, largest crowd at an inaugural speech ever in history.

No, but we know the media is in a very losing battle with this one. Lol

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And that’s very important in our US elections, especially for a Republican, Florida is absolutely crucial to winning the Presidency, so it seems he has that locked up with room t spare or as we say back at home.....gravy.

You do realize, that even Trumps own polls show him losing to dems in Florida, right? hehe

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The inaugural crowd didn’t represent the people that voted for him. The country is bigger than that.

The state of Florida isn't represented by his rally crowd. Lol, beaten by your own logic. Tee hee

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You also know how much these things cost? Trump still owes El Paso 500,000 dollars from a rally he did in February. Probably won't pay it either, so the city is stuck with the bill (hey, what were they expecting? Trump has a history of not paying for services requested).

Sorry, but that dig is falling on deaf ears. If Democrats want to go after him with that. trump has a litany of ammunition of money waste he can excoriate the Democrats with. Lol

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Sorry, but that dig is falling on deaf ears. If Democrats want to go after him with that. trump has a litany of ammunition of money waste he can excoriate the Democrats with. Lol

For example?

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You do realize, that even Trumps own polls show him losing to dems in Florida, right? hehe

Yeah, all the polls showed him losing last time, even the FOX poll and guess what happened? Lol

The state of Florida isn't represented by his rally crowd. Lol, beaten by your own logic. Tee hee

Then Trump wouldn’t nearly come even remotely close to having packed rallies with even more people outside sitting in the sun. Here we go again, like last time, the Dems spelled doom and gloom and they got it all wrong, now they want to double their pleasure again.

For example?

Entitlements, so take your pick....

Its like going to Baskin Robbins

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Yeah, all the polls showed him losing last time, even the FOX poll and guess what happened? Lol

Ok then, you have nothing to worry about. Now why are you so why do the rally numbers matter to you then?

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Nah, it's still Obama's economy. It's just the national debt that's Trump's, lol

Someone has no idea how economic cycles are slow but spending money is fast. HAR!

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Ok then, you have nothing to worry about.

Exactly!

Now why are you so why do the rally numbers matter to you then?

Because he’s popular in that State and they don’t matter to me, the problem is they didn’t anticipate THAT many people and it was a little bit of a problem accommodating them.

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Entitlements, so take your pick...

Socialist welfare to farmers because of Donny's inane approach to trade. Tee Hee.

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Entitlements, so take your pick....

Its like going to Baskin Robbins

Ah, its great that you think cities should be forced to pay for Trump's pleasure because you disagree with the budgets that were democratically voted on in other cities.

But you're right when it comes to Trump, like a child at baskin robbins. Folded arms and pouty face till mom lets him have two scoops.

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An outsider who just happens to be the occupant of the most powerful position in the developed world.

A victim of the system that put him there and has kept him there.

That's some sob story.

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Because he’s popular in that State and they don’t matter to me, the problem is they didn’t anticipate THAT many people and it was a little bit of a problem accommodating them.

I'm pretty sure they did. Otherwise they wouldn't have spent the money on a venue to fit 25,000 people.

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To have a half empty venue so Trump could talk to bleachers.

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Because he’s popular in that State and they don’t matter to me, the problem is they didn’t anticipate THAT many people and it was a little bit of a problem accommodating them.

If you weren't worried, you wouldn't be hear screeching at the top of your likings about rally attendance numbers. So transparent. So hilarious you expect the rest of us to engage in your self-delusion.

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An outsider who just happens to be the occupant of the most powerful position in the developed world.

A victim of the system that put him there and has kept him there.

That's some sob story.

You forgot also, he's the biggest victim in American History. More than the slaves, more than the native americans, more than the central park 5. I mean, he's had an absolutely horrible 2 years.

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Bass: The government planning to and then giving people money (entitlements) is far different than Donny going to a city, running up a huge bill, and skipping town (theft). It stretches the bounds of reasonableness for you to expect us to take you seriously when you make these kinds of comments.

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Entitlements, so take your pick....

Do those include payouts to farmers who are hurt by Trump’s trade wars? Oversized tax cuts to the uber wealthy? Use of Air Force One for Trump to play golf at his own resorts, at taxpayer expense?

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Its like going to Baskin Robbins

No it’s not. Your ice cream shop has one flavor.

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Socialist welfare to farmers because of Donny's inane approach to trade. Tee Hee.

I was referring more to the medical social everyday cradle to grave, not the temporary ones....darn.

Ah, its great that you think cities should be forced to pay for Trump's pleasure because you disagree with the budgets that were democratically voted on in other cities.

Most people I know didn’t want to pay for Obamacare, but alas....

But you're right when it comes to Trump, like a child at baskin robbins. Folded arms and pouty face till mom lets him have two scoops.

And the child wins in the end. Lol

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I'm pretty sure they did. Otherwise they wouldn't have spent the money on a venue to fit 25,000 people.

Uh-huh, so let’s see any Democrat top that.

To have a half empty venue so Trump could talk to bleachers.

Yeah, that would never happen, now Biden...

If you weren't worried, you wouldn't be hear screeching at the top of your likings about rally attendance numbers. So transparent. So hilarious you expect the rest of us to engage in your self-delusion.

Not worried don’t need to be, I have a TV and I saw the stadium overflow, I was just enjoying myself.

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I was referring more to the medical social everyday cradle to grave, not the temporary ones....darn.

So temporary handouts are okay? Selective socialism.

Most people I know didn’t want to pay for Obamacare, but alas....

False equivalency. The government planning to and then giving people money (entitlements) is far different than Donny going to a city, running up a huge bill, and skipping town (theft). It stretches the bounds of reasonableness for you to expect us to take you seriously when you make these kinds of comments.

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Uh-huh, so let’s see any Democrat top that.

Irrelevant.

Yeah, that would never happen, now Biden...

Irrelevant.

Your attempts to twist conversations to the point they aren't recognizable in the span of one reply is absurd.

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Yep the same polls that said Dems would be Florida governor and senator last time. Oops. Isn’t that guy being subpoenaed for grand jury testimony related to fraud?

You do realize, that even Trumps own polls show him losing to dems in Florida, right? hehe

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So temporary handouts are okay? Selective socialism.

Until the President can get the trade dispute in order, sadly yes for these farmers, but in normal circumstances it shouldn’t be the norm.

False equivalency.

Its not compared to the cradle to grave Democrats want to bestow on the entire nation which is financially illogical and unrealistic.

Your attempts to twist conversations

I don’t it’s just liberals keep getting twisted in their own political world, I aim to burst that bubble of trance.

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Trump had better change his MAGA slogan 'cos the official announcement of a 2020 Trump Redouche is gonna mean "Make Americans Gag Again"! The long-suffering majority may still be spared 4 more years of Trumpamerika if life is what happens when Trump is making other plans.

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I don’t it’s just liberals keep getting twisted in their own political world, I aim to burst that bubble of trance.

More irrelevant and meaningless babble. The house of Trump is built on this.

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More irrelevant and meaningless babble. The house of Trump is built on this

Nice somewhat comeback, but it won’t help the Dems win re-election. ROFL!

No it’s not. Your ice cream shop has one flavor.

Maybe the Dems do, they have the flavor of the month socialism, mine have 31.

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Maybe the Dems do, they have the flavor of the month socialism, mine have 31.

Socialists are often attacked for spending beyond their means and running up debt.

What’s Trump’s excuse?

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You do realize, that even Trumps own polls show him losing to dems in Florida, right? hehe

Oh my... ( and this is from CNN! )

About that Florida poll that shows Biden crushing Trump ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-2020-quinnipiac-poll-florida/index.html

It's going to be hilarious seeing the reactions here when Trump wins re-election.

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plasticmonkeyToday  05:56 pm JST

More irrelevant and meaningless babble. The house of Trump is built on this.

And it all makes the case for liberalism, socialism, or just about any other political viewpoint, all the more compelling. If I had any strong conservative inclinations I would be embarrassed to have any association with it.

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