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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Trump lists his grievances in a Wisconsin speech intended to link Harris to illegal immigration
By TODD RICHMOND and COLLEEN LONG PRAIRIE DU CHIEN, Wis©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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EvilBuddha
Its not just the illegal immigration system, even the legal immigration system is broken.
But you will never see these liberals focusing on fixing it so that the best and the brightest from other countries who can actually contribute to the US are incentivized as opposed to someone who just walks across the border and claims asylum.
The US immigration system is a ponzi scheme, and with respect to the illegals neither side really wants to do anything about it because the Democrats get to act virtuous and compassionate and Republicans get to act tough.
EvilBuddha
I'd rather have a poor migrant with no to lousy English for a neighbor than some no good native born bigot
I would take your virtue signaling seriously if I did not know that you too dislike immigrants from one particular country who speak good English.
The liberals pretend to care about unskilled illegal immigrants who walk across the border because they will get low wage labor for babysitting their kids, gardening their front yards, delivering their Uber eats and driving the cabs. Fruit pickers, landscapers, construction workers, nannies are no problem.
But educated liberals are far less keen to admit that they don't want foreign born doctors, professors, researchers who would compete with their kids and drive down their own wages.
Newgirlintown
Lock him up!
Desert Tortoise
Actual crime data says the opposite. At no time in the past 150 years have migrants had higher rates of crime than native born Americans.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/03/immigrants-are-significantly-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-the-us-born/
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debunking-myth-migrant-crime-wave
This story is nothing new. It is just an old lie that racist nativists trot and and proclaim absent any data to back it, and actually in contradiction to the actual data. There is no immigrant crime wave. Stop telling this lie.
Desert Tortoise
You sound just like the sobs who used to put minors in jail for prostitution and let the customers and pimps walk. It never dawns on some that those child prostitutes and these immigrants are the victims of crime, not the criminal. Today we finally treat the child prostitutes as the victims they are and instead punish the pimps and their customers. But sadly we still try to criminalize people for having the audacity of fleeing the miserable country they were born to . My grandfather had to do something similar dealing with the local mob to get out of his old country. That was the price you paid for your eventual freedom. My family has been there. I know what is in your heart and it is rotten to the core, as evil as the heart of the coyote. I know your kind.
Hervé L'Eisa
And Trump is correct!
The leftists' minds are withering as are their vapid hopes in the mindless mush of Kamal-la.
patkim
Well it's a hell lot better than Trump's plan of utilizing the military to round up all immigrants and ship them out to countries where they didn't even come from; such as when he said that he would ship the Haitian immigrants in Springfield (even though they were legally there) to Venezuela!
And let's be clear, when he was president, he claimed that he would build a wall between Mexico and the U.S. and make Mexico pay for it. All of it were lies. He didn't even finish the wall and the American taxpayers ended up paying for it. All he's done is used his rhetoric to cause people to feel hatred and distrust amongst Americans. He should be uniting the country, not dividing it.
Look, tackling immigration is a complicated thing. It's not simple. But the trouble is, Donald Trump hates doing the hard work to talk with people, make compromises, do the long meetings, put in the hard work to hammer through a bill that both sides would agree upon. No, he wants the simple way; deport all of them with no concessions whatsoever. In fact, he didn't even read the bill at all. He never reads what he needs to; only his Twitter feeds and anything that has his name on it. He just didn't want any part of it because it was not him who conceived it. It was mostly agreed upon by non-MAGA politicians; and we all know how petty and prideful Trump is. In Trump's world, he and his ego come first, then lovely ladies, then his family, then the people who like him, then the rest of Americans. Those priorities of his is what drives his decisions.
bass4funk
If wanting to have secure borders and wanting to make sure migrants come in the legal way is an ignorant position to take, so be it.
But that photo op from Kamala was?
bass4funk
We don’t. More lib talking points.
Yes
Not just whites.
https://x.com/natcon2022/status/1835718618446991572?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
Not even close.
bass4funk
Yes, as the left will use the hate for abortion, the difference is you don’t have a crime wave going on with fetuses, whereas with illegals it is growing
And how would one man in the U.S. overrun and take over the government? Where would he get the support from the military in the police to do that, how would he bypass Congress, they would be in his way, and he would have to eliminate them, how would he do that?
Not when it comes to crime, the border, the economy, absolutely not.
dagon
Weird that you have a lot of these online Trump supporters who have an inordinate interest in international issues supporting Putin.
'Black' men supporting Trump and railing about black crime and all their entitlements.
Expressing all the grievances that an aggrieved White Trump supporter would.
Trump supporters also usually default to these nebulous supposed virtues of Trump that were never demonstrated by him during his term or lifetime.
NOMINATION
and your anti-white daily rhetoric on here is not racist?
NOMINATION
No he didn't.
Some dude
Let's suppose, hypothetically for now, that he manages to win the election in this way, by preying on people's hate. There's clearly no shortage of it in the US.
Then, when president, he does nothing about it. Declares himself King, sits back watching Newsmax (or whatever it is he's into since Fox isn't radical enough for him anymore), rage posting on social media, etc.
Don't you think the people who voted for him based on their hate are going to feel a bit short-changed?
bass4funk
If you don’t have the will and fortitude then it will never work. Trump was the first president to take aggressive action along at the border, this is the reason why he is the first person in history to have been effective on decreasing the amount of illegals pouring in, this is also the reason why he is trusted more than any Democrat on this issue alone.
With all due respect, it really doesn’t matter the reason why they are coming in, when you enter into a sovereign country illegally it’s a crime, no matter what, you need to start from there, there is no excuse for any lawbreaking, none.
Which is exactly what the Democrats do, if you complete the border wall position border, patrol agents, as well as drones, you will significantly reduce the amount of encouraging, no one saying you’re gonna stop it completely, we all know that is an impossible task, but you can reduce it to about 80 to 90% easily.
I prefer to have an immigrant living next to me who has come to the country legally, and followed every law in the book
I’m sorry, but what does any of that have to do with breaking the sovereign law of the U.S.?
Blacklabel
“Intended” to link her to illegal immigration?
she IS linked, obviously.
Attilathehungry
Tortise, I was quoting Joe Biden. His words on March 24 2021. Not mine.
Plus, you forget that every migrant at the border has to pay the cartels and coyotes to cross. Thousands of dollars. They participate in crime even before entering the US.
You also forget that half the women and girls who undertake the journey are raped on the way. Sometimes repeatedly, by the dirtbags and criminals who profit from their misery.
Illegal immigration is a criminal enterprise, akin to drug smuggling. Every step is controlled by thugs and gangsters. The polyanna image of tired but hopeful families seeking good fortune in America is false.
Desert Tortoise
BS. Instead of just arresting people at the border which hasn't worked in the 70 something years the US has been doing that, she took a different tack looking at the reasons why people migrate with the idea that the solution isn't at the US border but rather lies in the nations these people are fleeing. Go to the source of the problem instead of just patching more band-aids at the border.
Btw, I'd rather have a poor migrant with no to lousy English for a neighbor than some no good native born bigot. My grandparents were exactly like the people the nativists complain about. No education, no English skills, just showed up from a poor nation. So called scientists wrote papers "proving" my grandparents ethnic stock were inferior to white anglo saxons. Even got Congress to prohibit immigration from the region of the world they came from. We have seen all this before. The bigots are wrong, and they are despicable. Immigrants built the US and made it the great nation it is, even as the white nativists whined and stomped their feet about them. My heart is with the immigrants, not with the nativist filth.
Desert Tortoise
I guess you forgot about Sprio Agnew having to resign to face prosecution on charges of suspicion of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud. Agnew took kickbacks from contractors during his time as Baltimore county executive, governor of Maryland and even as Vice President. He ended up pleading guilty to one felony count of tax evasion before resigning as Vice President.
itsonlyrocknroll
From CNN
KFile: Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html
Would Kamala Harris decriminalize across the board illegal immigration?
kaimycahl
Kamala finally goes to the border. She had 4 years to do it and now she takes a trip there. Oh I get it she cares for the vote only she has not done anything as a VP but made promises that’s all. She’s had plenty of time in office to make changes and did nothing. As a prosecutor she claims she was chasing international criminal games that’s a bold lie. I live in California what she was doing was arresting Americans separating them from their families and putting them in jail while allowing illegals to come in to the country. She separated families and because of the separation she put many American kids in foster homes. She is making promises here’s someone who failed in the primaries 4 years ago became a VP because Biden suckered African Americans in only to win and now she is a presidential candidate. She is a do nothing debater all she does is talk if she wins America loses big time. Illegals are waiting at the gate once she wins more will come in and still she will do nothing. Crime and homelessness that’s what these illegals are causing!
TokyoLiving
Just Trump being Trump..
theFu
Not possible. Mike Pence has that title according to Trump after he refused to violate federal law on Jan 6th. BTW, over 1000 people have been convicted for their actions that Trump asked them to perform. Only a handful of people prosecuted haven't been convicted. Trump will get his day in court for that day too.
Harris wasn't the "border czar", she was sent on a specific task to work with 4 specific countries to slow migrants from getting to the US Border and to work with Congress on a bi-partisan Immigration and border law. But rather than have Congress DO THEIR JOB and pass a good first start to prevent illegal entries from being allowed to seek legal immigration later and have much more administrative deportations, Trump told the GOP to kill the bill. This was purely a political tactic. Harris can't make Congress pass anything, even when they wanted to. Trump told them to kill it so he would have 1 more thing to add to his failure list.
Trump doesn't actually care about solving problems, unless he can take credit.
Still, some of the ideas that Harris setup with those 4 countries has been happening - the Panama deportation of criminal migrants is just 1. There are others. Panama is the throttle for everyone coming through South America.
To all the people using numbers that Trump says, you do realize those aren't correct, right? Learn to use a fact checker, please. Especially before you post numbers that are easily proven wrong. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ Also, since the current administration actually follows US laws, there's only so much they can legally do at the border. There was a bill in Congress to address it - guess who killed that bill? Trump. So you should be holding Trump responsible for all the entries the last 6 months. All of them.
OssanAmerica
Not stopping illegal immigration is bad. But not as bad a trying to overturn a Presidential Election and causing a riot at the Capitol Building during certification. And fracturing the very fabric of the nation by pitting Americans against Americans with hate and vitriol so that our adversaries benefit.
A Convicted Felon has no business ranting about crime.
Anything this lunatic says about Harris, even if true, is insignificant compared to the damage he has done to the country.
bass4funk
Seriously doubt it.
What?
No, he’s very needed. We don’t need the U.S. to be the lefts Marxist experiment case trying to emulate California.
Moonraker
Wouldn't it be terrible if Trump were, you know, replaced? Makes us hope the great replacement fake news could come true. And Americans whingeing about immigration. Imagine that. A nation of immigrants ... well, except for those they violently displaced. And now the historically-challenged imagine they are uniquely threatened. America in its present absurdist incarnation seems to need a constant supply of new blood because the longer the generations have been there the more enfeebled they seem to become.
John
Every projection is a confession.
Doddering old man’s frontal cortex melting down in real time.
itsonlyrocknroll
LIVE: Donald Trump slams Kamala Harris at MAGA rally in Wisconsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnUmYmq8pE
Why did Kamala Harris deicide to visit the U.S.-Mexico border after close to four years in office?
A photo opportunity?
Attilathehungry
March 24, 2021, Biden tasked Harris with stemming the flow of immigrants to the southern border. She did nothing for more than 3 years. In the meantime, 10 million plus illegals crossed the border. An abject failure.
I would say that Trump's grievances are America's grievances. Totally justified.
Zaphod
Intended to? In what way is the "border tzar" not linked to the flood of illegal immigration? He is ust stating the obvious.
Yrral
I hope Hispanic come to their attention,that this man is racist trash
Bad Haircut
Another garbage article with such a pro-Harris slant that one would be forgiven for thinking it's a press release cranked out by her campaign HQ.
elephant200
Trump has no grievances, he is using someone's tragedy for his own power play,also a very convenient one. You can't find someone can done tasteless things as low as him in civilized country.And he was once being the POTUS !
ulysses
What clear thoughts sir, you are like rambling donald, spouting stuff you have no clue about!!!!
Any evidence of the fine pint or lack of it????
And don’t put a link to an opinion piece from another of Donald’s mush brain buddies!!!
Cephus
I report you decide, who is right and who is lying.
"As of July 21, 2024, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket—13,099 criminally convicted MURDERS" (yahoo news).
wallace
He said the same about Pence calling him a traitor.
dagon
Look forward to Trumps Grievance Tour 2.0 after his defeat on November 5th and hearing him regale his followers with his complaints about the new KFC menu, all the flies in Orlando, Taylor Swift:Hot or Not? and other such issues before shilling his new venture.
What is not needed is this man as POTUS and he demonstrates that more and more everyday.
bass4funk
Which is an outright and absolute lie, it sounds good until you read the tiny fine print and realize what a poison pill this toxic bill was and good on Trump and the House Republicans for killing it in its sleep.
ulysses
donald’s brain is mush, he has no clue what he is talking about!!!
He is resigned to going to prison and is not taking it very well!!!!
lincolnman
The link to illegal border crossings lies strictly at Trump's feet....just ask one of the most conservative Repubs in the Senate - and one of its authors - Jim Lankford....
*The border security bill will put a huge number of new enforcement tools in the hands of a future administration and push the current Administration to finally stop the illegal flow. *The bill provides funding to build the wall, increase technology at the border, and add more detention beds, more agents, and more deportation flights. The border security bill ends the abuse of parole on our southwest border that has waived in over a million people. It dramatically changes our ambiguous asylum laws by conducting fast screenings at a higher standard of evidence, limited appeals, and fast deportation.
And guess who killed it...just so he could go to rallies and lie immigrants eating pets...
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/29/trump-republicans-border-deal-senate-immigration
You could also ask Victoria Morales, an undocumented immigrant who worked as Trump's personal maid for 5 years...
https://www.vox.com/2019/2/4/18207096/victorina-morales-undocumented-immigrant-trump
The Ripper!
Trump is right,
Harris is the worst VP in history.