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Trump lists his grievances in a Wisconsin speech intended to link Harris to illegal immigration

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Trump shifted from topic to topic so quickly that it was hard to keep track of what he meant at times. 

donald’s brain is mush, he has no clue what he is talking about!!!

He is resigned to going to prison and is not taking it very well!!!!

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Former President Donald Trump meandered Saturday through a list of grievances against Vice President Kamala Harris and other issues during an event intended to link his Democratic opponent to illegal border crossings.

The link to illegal border crossings lies strictly at Trump's feet....just ask one of the most conservative Repubs in the Senate - and one of its authors - Jim Lankford....

*The border security bill will put a huge number of new enforcement tools in the hands of a future administration and push the current Administration to finally stop the illegal flow. *The bill provides funding to build the wall, increase technology at the border, and add more detention beds, more agents, and more deportation flights. The border security bill ends the abuse of parole on our southwest border that has waived in over a million people. It dramatically changes our ambiguous asylum laws by conducting fast screenings at a higher standard of evidence, limited appeals, and fast deportation. 

And guess who killed it...just so he could go to rallies and lie immigrants eating pets...

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/29/trump-republicans-border-deal-senate-immigration

You could also ask Victoria Morales, an undocumented immigrant who worked as Trump's personal maid for 5 years...

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/4/18207096/victorina-morales-undocumented-immigrant-trump

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Harris is the worst VP in history.

Not possible. Mike Pence has that title according to Trump after he refused to violate federal law on Jan 6th. BTW, over 1000 people have been convicted for their actions that Trump asked them to perform. Only a handful of people prosecuted haven't been convicted. Trump will get his day in court for that day too.

Harris wasn't the "border czar", she was sent on a specific task to work with 4 specific countries to slow migrants from getting to the US Border and to work with Congress on a bi-partisan Immigration and border law. But rather than have Congress DO THEIR JOB and pass a good first start to prevent illegal entries from being allowed to seek legal immigration later and have much more administrative deportations, Trump told the GOP to kill the bill. This was purely a political tactic. Harris can't make Congress pass anything, even when they wanted to. Trump told them to kill it so he would have 1 more thing to add to his failure list.

Trump doesn't actually care about solving problems, unless he can take credit.

Still, some of the ideas that Harris setup with those 4 countries has been happening - the Panama deportation of criminal migrants is just 1. There are others. Panama is the throttle for everyone coming through South America.

To all the people using numbers that Trump says, you do realize those aren't correct, right? Learn to use a fact checker, please. Especially before you post numbers that are easily proven wrong. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ Also, since the current administration actually follows US laws, there's only so much they can legally do at the border. There was a bill in Congress to address it - guess who killed that bill? Trump. So you should be holding Trump responsible for all the entries the last 6 months. All of them.

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Which is an outright and absolute lie, it sounds good until you read the tiny fine print and realize what a poison pill this toxic bill was and good on Trump and the House Republicans for killing it in its sleep.

Well it's a hell lot better than Trump's plan of utilizing the military to round up all immigrants and ship them out to countries where they didn't even come from; such as when he said that he would ship the Haitian immigrants in Springfield (even though they were legally there) to Venezuela!

And let's be clear, when he was president, he claimed that he would build a wall between Mexico and the U.S. and make Mexico pay for it. All of it were lies. He didn't even finish the wall and the American taxpayers ended up paying for it. All he's done is used his rhetoric to cause people to feel hatred and distrust amongst Americans. He should be uniting the country, not dividing it.

Look, tackling immigration is a complicated thing. It's not simple. But the trouble is, Donald Trump hates doing the hard work to talk with people, make compromises, do the long meetings, put in the hard work to hammer through a bill that both sides would agree upon. No, he wants the simple way; deport all of them with no concessions whatsoever. In fact, he didn't even read the bill at all. He never reads what he needs to; only his Twitter feeds and anything that has his name on it. He just didn't want any part of it because it was not him who conceived it. It was mostly agreed upon by non-MAGA politicians; and we all know how petty and prideful Trump is. In Trump's world, he and his ego come first, then lovely ladies, then his family, then the people who like him, then the rest of Americans. Those priorities of his is what drives his decisions.

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Yes, as the left will use the hate for abortion, the difference is you don’t have a crime wave going on with fetuses, whereas with illegals it is growing

Actual crime data says the opposite. At no time in the past 150 years have migrants had higher rates of crime than native born Americans.

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/03/immigrants-are-significantly-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-the-us-born/

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debunking-myth-migrant-crime-wave

This story is nothing new. It is just an old lie that racist nativists trot and and proclaim absent any data to back it, and actually in contradiction to the actual data. There is no immigrant crime wave. Stop telling this lie.

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Not stopping illegal immigration is bad. But not as bad a trying to overturn a Presidential Election and causing a riot at the Capitol Building during certification. And fracturing the very fabric of the nation by pitting Americans against Americans with hate and vitriol so that our adversaries benefit.

A Convicted Felon has no business ranting about crime.

Anything this lunatic says about Harris, even if true, is insignificant compared to the damage he has done to the country.

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Harris is the worst VP in history.

I guess you forgot about Sprio Agnew having to resign to face prosecution on charges of suspicion of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud. Agnew took kickbacks from contractors during his time as Baltimore county executive, governor of Maryland and even as Vice President. He ended up pleading guilty to one felony count of tax evasion before resigning as Vice President.

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Plus, you forget that every migrant at the border has to pay the cartels and coyotes to cross. Thousands of dollars. They participate in crime even before entering the US.

You sound just like the sobs who used to put minors in jail for prostitution and let the customers and pimps walk. It never dawns on some that those child prostitutes and these immigrants are the victims of crime, not the criminal. Today we finally treat the child prostitutes as the victims they are and instead punish the pimps and their customers. But sadly we still try to criminalize people for having the audacity of fleeing the miserable country they were born to . My grandfather had to do something similar dealing with the local mob to get out of his old country. That was the price you paid for your eventual freedom. My family has been there. I know what is in your heart and it is rotten to the core, as evil as the heart of the coyote. I know your kind.

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Harris is the worst VP in history.

He said the same about Pence calling him a traitor.

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Which is an outright and absolute lie, it sounds good until you read the tiny fine print and realize what a poison pill this toxic bill was and good on Trump and the House Republicans for killing it in its sleep.

What clear thoughts sir, you are like rambling donald, spouting stuff you have no clue about!!!!

Any evidence of the fine pint or lack of it????

And don’t put a link to an opinion piece from another of Donald’s mush brain buddies!!!

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I would say that Trump's grievances are America's grievances. Totally justified.

Weird that you have a lot of these online Trump supporters who have an inordinate interest in international issues supporting Putin.

'Black' men supporting Trump and railing about black crime and all their entitlements.

Expressing all the grievances that an aggrieved White Trump supporter would.

“You’re going to see the one man who has enough strength and courage of conviction to stand up to anyone up to and including being shot in the head for us," he said.

Trump supporters also usually default to these nebulous supposed virtues of Trump that were never demonstrated by him during his term or lifetime.

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blamed the U.S. Secret Service for not being able to hold a large outdoor rally instead of an event in a smaller indoor space. But he also offered asides about climate change, Harris' father, how his beach body was better than President Joe Biden's, and a fly that was buzzing near him.

Look forward to Trumps Grievance Tour 2.0 after his defeat on November 5th and hearing him regale his followers with his complaints about the new KFC menu, all the flies in Orlando, Taylor Swift:Hot or Not? and other such issues before shilling his new venture.

“Donald Trump is the same old tired show,” she said. “The same tired playbook we have heard for years.”

What is not needed is this man as POTUS and he demonstrates that more and more everyday.

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March 24, 2021, Biden tasked Harris with stemming the flow of immigrants to the southern border. She did nothing for more than 3 years. In the meantime, 10 million plus illegals crossed the border. An abject failure.

BS. Instead of just arresting people at the border which hasn't worked in the 70 something years the US has been doing that, she took a different tack looking at the reasons why people migrate with the idea that the solution isn't at the US border but rather lies in the nations these people are fleeing. Go to the source of the problem instead of just patching more band-aids at the border.

Btw, I'd rather have a poor migrant with no to lousy English for a neighbor than some no good native born bigot. My grandparents were exactly like the people the nativists complain about. No education, no English skills, just showed up from a poor nation. So called scientists wrote papers "proving" my grandparents ethnic stock were inferior to white anglo saxons. Even got Congress to prohibit immigration from the region of the world they came from. We have seen all this before. The bigots are wrong, and they are despicable. Immigrants built the US and made it the great nation it is, even as the white nativists whined and stomped their feet about them. My heart is with the immigrants, not with the nativist filth.

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Trump has no grievances, he is using someone's tragedy for his own power play,also a very convenient one. You can't find someone can done tasteless things as low as him in civilized country.And he was once being the POTUS !

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Wouldn't it be terrible if Trump were, you know, replaced? Makes us hope the great replacement fake news could come true. And Americans whingeing about immigration. Imagine that. A nation of immigrants ... well, except for those they violently displaced. And now the historically-challenged imagine they are uniquely threatened. America in its present absurdist incarnation seems to need a constant supply of new blood because the longer the generations have been there the more enfeebled they seem to become.

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Lock him up!

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Let's suppose, hypothetically for now, that he manages to win the election in this way, by preying on people's hate. There's clearly no shortage of it in the US.

Then, when president, he does nothing about it. Declares himself King, sits back watching Newsmax (or whatever it is he's into since Fox isn't radical enough for him anymore), rage posting on social media, etc.

Don't you think the people who voted for him based on their hate are going to feel a bit short-changed?

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I hope Hispanic come to their attention,that this man is racist trash

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The Republican nominee also intensified his personal attacks against Harris, insulting her as “mentally impaired” and a “disaster

Every projection is a confession.

Doddering old man’s frontal cortex melting down in real time.

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I report you decide, who is right and who is lying.

"As of July 21, 2024, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket—13,099 criminally convicted MURDERS" (yahoo news).

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March 24, 2021, Biden tasked Harris with stemming the flow of immigrants to the southern border. She did nothing for more than 3 years. In the meantime, 10 million plus illegals crossed the border. An abject failure.

I would say that Trump's grievances are America's grievances. Totally justified.

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LIVE: Donald Trump slams Kamala Harris at MAGA rally in Wisconsin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnUmYmq8pE

Why did Kamala Harris deicide to visit the U.S.-Mexico border after close to four years in office?

A photo opportunity?

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Just Trump being Trump..

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I'd rather have a poor migrant with no to lousy English for a neighbor than some no good native born bigot

I would take your virtue signaling seriously if I did not know that you too dislike immigrants from one particular country who speak good English.

The liberals pretend to care about unskilled illegal immigrants who walk across the border because they will get low wage labor for babysitting their kids, gardening their front yards, delivering their Uber eats and driving the cabs. Fruit pickers, landscapers, construction workers, nannies are no problem.

But educated liberals are far less keen to admit that they don't want foreign born doctors, professors, researchers who would compete with their kids and drive down their own wages.

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Its not just the illegal immigration system, even the legal immigration system is broken.

But you will never see these liberals focusing on fixing it so that the best and the brightest from other countries who can actually contribute to the US are incentivized as opposed to someone who just walks across the border and claims asylum.

The US immigration system is a ponzi scheme, and with respect to the illegals neither side really wants to do anything about it because the Democrats get to act virtuous and compassionate and Republicans get to act tough.

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Kamala finally goes to the border. She had 4 years to do it and now she takes a trip there. Oh I get it she cares for the vote only she has not done anything as a VP but made promises that’s all. She’s had plenty of time in office to make changes and did nothing. As a prosecutor she claims she was chasing international criminal games that’s a bold lie. I live in California what she was doing was arresting Americans separating them from their families and putting them in jail while allowing illegals to come in to the country. She separated families and because of the separation she put many American kids in foster homes. She is making promises here’s someone who failed in the primaries 4 years ago became a VP because Biden suckered African Americans in only to win and now she is a presidential candidate. She is a do nothing debater all she does is talk if she wins America loses big time. Illegals are waiting at the gate once she wins more will come in and still she will do nothing. Crime and homelessness that’s what these illegals are causing!

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I hope Hispanic come to their attention,that this man is racist trash

and your anti-white daily rhetoric on here is not racist?

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intended to link Harris to illegal immigration

Intended to? In what way is the "border tzar" not linked to the flood of illegal immigration? He is ust stating the obvious.

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Look forward to Trumps Grievance Tour 2.0 after his defeat on November 5th

Seriously doubt it.

and hearing him regale his followers with his complaints about the new KFC menu

What?

What is not needed is this man as POTUS and he demonstrates that more and more everyday

No, he’s very needed. We don’t need the U.S. to be the lefts Marxist experiment case trying to emulate California.

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Weird that you have a lot of these online Trump supporters who have an inordinate interest in international issues supporting Putin.

We don’t. More lib talking points.

'Black' men supporting Trump and railing about black crime and all their entitlements. 

Yes

Expressing all the grievances that an aggrieved White Trump supporter would. 

Not just whites.

https://x.com/natcon2022/status/1835718618446991572?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

Trump supporters also usually default to these nebulous supposed virtues of Trump that were never demonstrated by him during his term or lifetime.

Not even close.

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No don't. This is MAGA ignorance as usual. 

If wanting to have secure borders and wanting to make sure migrants come in the legal way is an ignorant position to take, so be it.

MAGA ignorance knows no bounds.

But that photo op from Kamala was?

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From CNN

KFile: Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html

Would Kamala Harris decriminalize across the board illegal immigration?

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Tortise, I was quoting Joe Biden. His words on March 24 2021. Not mine.

Plus, you forget that every migrant at the border has to pay the cartels and coyotes to cross. Thousands of dollars. They participate in crime even before entering the US.

You also forget that half the women and girls who undertake the journey are raped on the way. Sometimes repeatedly, by the dirtbags and criminals who profit from their misery.

Illegal immigration is a criminal enterprise, akin to drug smuggling. Every step is controlled by thugs and gangsters. The polyanna image of tired but hopeful families seeking good fortune in America is false.

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He said the same about Pence calling him a traitor.

No he didn't.

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Trump is right,

Harris is the worst VP in history.

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The bill provides funding to build the wall, increase technology at the border, and add more detention beds, more agents, and more deportation flights. The border security bill ends the abuse of parole on our southwest border that has waived in over a million people. It dramatically changes our ambiguous asylum laws by conducting fast screenings at a higher standard of evidence, limited appeals, and fast deportation. 

Which is an outright and absolute lie, it sounds good until you read the tiny fine print and realize what a poison pill this toxic bill was and good on Trump and the House Republicans for killing it in its sleep.

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BS. Instead of just arresting people at the border which hasn't worked in the 70 something years the US has been doing that,

If you don’t have the will and fortitude then it will never work. Trump was the first president to take aggressive action along at the border, this is the reason why he is the first person in history to have been effective on decreasing the amount of illegals pouring in, this is also the reason why he is trusted more than any Democrat on this issue alone.

she took a different tack looking at the reasons why people migrate with the idea that the solution isn't at the US border but rather lies in the nations these people are fleeing.

With all due respect, it really doesn’t matter the reason why they are coming in, when you enter into a sovereign country illegally it’s a crime, no matter what, you need to start from there, there is no excuse for any lawbreaking, none.

Go to the source of the problem instead of just patching more band-aids at the border.

Which is exactly what the Democrats do, if you complete the border wall position border, patrol agents, as well as drones, you will significantly reduce the amount of encouraging, no one saying you’re gonna stop it completely, we all know that is an impossible task, but you can reduce it to about 80 to 90% easily.

Btw, I'd rather have a poor migrant with no to lousy English for a neighbor than some no good native born bigot. My grandparents were exactly like the people the nativists complain about. No education, no English skills, just showed up from a poor nation.

I prefer to have an immigrant living next to me who has come to the country legally, and followed every law in the book

The bigots are wrong, and they are despicable. Immigrants built the US and made it the great nation it is, even as the white nativists whined and stomped their feet about them. My heart is with the immigrants, not with the nativist filth.

I’m sorry, but what does any of that have to do with breaking the sovereign law of the U.S.?

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Let's suppose, hypothetically for now, that he manages to win the election in this way, by preying on people's hate.

Yes, as the left will use the hate for abortion, the difference is you don’t have a crime wave going on with fetuses, whereas with illegals it is growing

Then, when president, he does nothing about it. Declares himself King

And how would one man in the U.S. overrun and take over the government? Where would he get the support from the military in the police to do that, how would he bypass Congress, they would be in his way, and he would have to eliminate them, how would he do that?

Don't you think the people who voted for him based on their hate are going to feel a bit short-changed?

Not when it comes to crime, the border, the economy, absolutely not.

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“Intended” to link her to illegal immigration?

she IS linked, obviously.

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And Trump is correct!

The leftists' minds are withering as are their vapid hopes in the mindless mush of Kamal-la.

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Another garbage article with such a pro-Harris slant that one would be forgiven for thinking it's a press release cranked out by her campaign HQ.

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