Trump mocks Macron approval rating, lashes him over European defense proposals

I think Macron is ensuring a backlash against globalism in France’s next election.

Wait a minute, isn't this the same Cadet Bonespurs who threw a temper tantrum when Justin Trudeau made supposedly critical remarks about Bonespurs after Bonespurs left a meeting? And didn't the Cult 45ists try to lambaste Trudeau for not 'saying it to Trump's face'?

Yet here he is, too cowardly to say anything to Macron without his security blanket of the Atlantic Ocean and Twitter to protect his wittle feewings.

Coward-In-Chief is more like it.

Looks like Monsieur Macron's speech got the big baby all riled up. He was already in a sulk and being put in his place didn't go down at all well.

Good.

Of course, this infantile tweeting is just the usual response one would expect after condemnation and growing anger at his disrespect for American soldiers who lost their lives. He has to deflect from his cowardice and laziness.

Remember - this is the guy who boasted he would have tackled the Florida high school shooter, even if he didn't have a weapon. But he's too scared and idle to pay his respects for his countrymen who made the ultimate sacrifice. Bellau Wood was one of the first large-scale engagements that the American Expeditionary Force was involved in and the Marines were heavily hit. The Marine Corps take ceremonial remembrance very seriously. I imagine that's not going down too well with them at the moment.

I think Macron is ensuring a backlash against globalism in France’s next election

A reminder that the terms globalism/globalist are used as anti-Semitic dog whistles.

Good deflection, though and a timely reminder of the dangers of conflating Nationalism with Patriotism.

I can see why Trump supporters would be desperate enough to do so.

With friends like Trump who needs enemies?

About 70 years of peace in Europe because of America.

History is a wonderful thing, it does get in the way of beliefs like the above, sure but it also shows that there were other participants besides the US. Who, as usual, were latecomers and up until then, they were doing the Nationalist America First stance as well as some familiar rhetoric over refugees fleeing nazi persecution.

One group, the Vindicator Association, called for young people to form vigilante "border patrols" to stop "alien criminals." A member of Congress said that America should "close, lock and bar the gates of our country … and then throw the keys away." 

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12198760/america-first-donald-trump-convention

The USA should leave. Let the idiots start killing each other again !

There's absolutely no need for spiteful comments just because Macron explained the simple but important difference to Trump (Nationalism v Patriotism). America does not rule the world and sometimes it needs telling that.

"But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two - How did that work out for France?" Trump tweeted.

*"They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along"*

First, that's ridiculous. Second, without the support of France, your country wouldn't even exist. So shut up.

As for these two men, they are both narcissists on a path to destroy their countries. They deserve each other.

This happens when you have a thin-skinned spoiled brat in charge.

They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along

If this draft-dodger had been around, he’d have become a soiled brat.

Funny, had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today. What is wrong with this guy. There is absolutely nothing wrong to be a Nationalist, Trump loves his country over other countries, he feels as an American, America comes first and his responsibility is towards and for Americans as his highest priority. Not a bad thing at all, in fact, it’s a good thing.

Trump knows nothing about Europe and should keep his yap shut.

Earlier this year he told the leaders of Latvia and Lithuania that they had been responsible for the wars in the former Yugoslavia. Apparently Trump didn't understand the difference between Baltic and Balkans, even though his own wife is from Slovenia.

It's also bizarre for Trump to attack Macron for not paying more for France's own defense and simultaneously attacking him for suggesting doing that very thing.

The man is an ignorant blowhard.

So the 5 time draft dodging coward is trying to insult the French? Next time the US is invaded by a foreign nation, we might see what that is like. Trump never served, neither did his father, and his grandfather was also a draft-dodging coward who ran out of Germany. He has a pair of sons who like to shoot animals, but have never served.

And a little rain scared him away from the American cemetery in France and Arlington yesterday.

Funny, had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today. 

And if it wasn't for the French, you'd still be part of the British Empire. History, yo.

There is absolutely nothing wrong to be a Nationalist, Trump loves his country over other countries.

America uber alles may be back in fashion, but it leads to hatreds and conflict. Trump has betrayed America's standing in the world and his divisive rhetoric is the stuff of demagogues. Obviously it impacts impressionable minds but it takes someone like Macron to put him straight.

Don't be scared and don't be an apologist for fascism - there's nothing sinister in standing up to abusers like Trump.

That's patriotism.

Europe has enjoyed 70 years of peace and prosperity thanks to America. The same applies to Japan.

Hitler was a socialist. Let Europe return to socialism WITHOUT dragging America into another of their wars.

Let England start and finish a war without American help. They are helpless without colonial slaves to fight for them.

War in Europe is a wonderful idea. Just think how all of the death and destruction will give them a chance to rebuild...WITHOUT American money.

Japan “rebuilt” itself on American money and trade policies that benefitted them. The same applies to Europe. Let Putin protect you ! But first look at the strength and character of the Russians compared to your own society.

Macrons approval ratings already going up. Trump is to liberals what horse dung is to carrots. Makes them grow.

had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today

Fact check :

US losses in WWI : 116,516

US losses in WWII : 407,300

Plus, it was the Russians who took Berlin in WWII and really gave millions of lives.

had the US not been involved in the war, . . . millions of Americans would still be alive today

First of all, total American deaths in WWI were about 116,000.

Second, there are no WWI veterans still alive anywhere in the world.

Your grasp of history is nearly as strong as Trump's.

There is absolutely nothing wrong to be a Nationalist,

Then you don't know the meaning of nationalism. Nationalism is what caused WWI, and the deaths of around 20 million people. For nothing.

First of all, total American deaths in WWI were about 116,000.

Factor in. both wars that’s more than half 1 million

Second, there are no WWI veterans still alive anywhere in the world.

Neve said there were.

Your grasp of history is nearly as strong as Trump's

And liberals really care about military, this is really interesting news.

Then you don't know the meaning of nationalism.

I know the exact meaning of nationalism and I’m not going to let liberals take the narrative and try to make it what “they think” they want to make it seem to be, you can be a Nationalist and have deep devotion and love for your country and everything within your country, liberals cannot define what nationalism is because they want to, you can be a globalist and be a full on racist, loving your country does not make you a racist, I’m not buying that online or logic.

If I’m at a bar and I say I love my country and another person says the exact same thing that doesn’t mean that person or I are racist, liberals need to get off the racism narrative

it’s so overplayed, seriously.

Trump really showing what an ignoramus he is, doesn't know nor understand European history, borders, nations within nations etc.

Tell the "if it wasnt for us europe would be speaking german haha!' brigade about Sudetenland, Alsace-Lorraine, Silesia, Moravia, Moselle, the many Germanophone communities all over europe etc (all regions/areas which were part of the German Empire at some point in the 18-19 or even early 20th century yet were Polish, French, Czech etc when ww2 broke out) and they have this distinctive 'huh?!' look.

Euro borders & local allegiances have changed over centuries which explains why many euros supported nazi ideology, weren't 'patriotic' & disliked Jews/Communists/Homosexuals/Gypsies/Anglos etc. Having to 'speak German' wasnt very high on their list of priorities when the war broke out.

Factor in. both wars that’s more than half 1 million

That's not what you said. You said "the war" (singular) and you said "millions".

Neve said there were.

You're right. You implied that had it not been for WWI, millions of Americans would still be alive. That suggests that there should be millions of Americans over 120 years old alive today.

--Your grasp of history is nearly as strong as Trump's

And liberals really care about military,

You're contrasting yourself and Trump (two individuals) to the entire population of liberals. Interesting.

I know the exact meaning of nationalism and I’m not going to let liberals take the narrative and try to make it what “they think” they want to make it seem to be,

I know the exact meaning of liberalism and I'm not going to let nationalists take the narrative and try to make it what "they think" they want to make it seem to be,

If I’m at a bar and I say I love my country

What's to love about the USA with so many people getting screwed over by the health insurance system (getting worse under Trump)? "I love the USA so much that I live in Japan"

Funny, had the US not been involved in the war

If the American revolution hadn't happened successfully American people would be speaking....English (oh no). Also, too bad Native Americans didn't have advanced weaponry to defend their land. But the Russians would have beat Germany anyway. Trump people living in Japan: Don't take America that seriously, because if you go there and get sick you will no longer think it's the greatest country on Earth.

Governmetn by tweet is really unfortunate.  Twitter is the home of the lame and deranged.

however The Don has a point about Macron (hypocrite, has achieved nothing in office), France (doddering economy),  The EU (protectionist trading bloc) and the fact that talking  about an EU army while not paying NATO commitments is just stupid.

LATimes has a good article whose title is self-explanatory: "Trump, stung by midterms and nervous about Mueller, retreats from traditional presidential duties". Apparently, he's retreated to his bunker. This is not what America needs in a president, but is what the 46% deserve. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-absent-20181113-story.html

I know the exact meaning of liberalism and I'm not going to let nationalists take the narrative and try to make it what "they think" they want to make it seem to be,

Good, then we are in agreement. You know the exact meaning of what liberalism is and I know the exact meaning of what nationalism is, great.

Another amateurish performance by the vulgar and irrational Narcissus J. Trumpnocchio ... he continues to be a dangerous embarrasment to the United States of America and world at large.

You know the exact meaning of what liberalism is and I know the exact meaning of what nationalism is, great.

Then what is Reagan since he inked 3M greencard amnesty for illegals? Does't sound like Nationalism to me.

Hitler was a socialist. Let Europe return to socialism

I wish people would study more. Check what ‘Socialist’ meant for the Nazis. Also check Hitler’s treatment of communists.

It’s indisputable that Hitler was a nationalist.

It’s indisputable that Hitler was a nationalist.

Yes, with the belief that the Aryan race was the only race that should rule supreme And every other race are termites or sub human, he said this it’s been noted it’s been documented. Hitler was in fact a white nationalist, which is very different from being an “American nationalist”, Mandela, Ghandi all these people were nationalists. Linking in Roosevelt hello nationalists as well.

I almost feel bad for Macron; after all, this isn’t a fair fight. He’s a globalist/EU nice-guy puppet and they’re sending him to fight Trump.

Not good for Macron.

What’s worse, the EU needs the USA more than the USA needs the EU. So he’s not even dealing from a position of strength.

Oh well, this is all theater to try to discredit anyone who dares to oppose a globalist world order. And all the anti-Trumo crowd ate willingly walking right into their dystopian future while patting themselves on the back.

**anti-Trump

As soon as Macron bashes Trump, he becomes smart and a good guy in the eyes of the anti-camp. Macron is ambitious and he wants to lead the EU, be in control and on same level as the US. He's trying.

Hitler was a socialist. Let Europe return to socialism WITHOUT dragging America into another of their wars.

I think, now more than ever, it's very important to at the very least challenge statements there are blatantly false and misleading.

Hitler was not a socialist. The very first people he locked up were socialists and communists. His language demonised socialists and Jews (and socialist Jews). And globalists were blamed for Germany's ills.

It's sad and odd to see the same kind of language used these days, and one wonders what the reasoning behind it is.

Funny, had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today.

Funny, if France hadn't basically fought the American Revolution for you, you'd...well, you'd still be speaking the same language but you'd have Queen Elizabeth's face on your money. So uh, take that.

There is absolutely nothing wrong to be a Nationalist, Trump loves his country over other countries, he feels as an American, America comes first and his responsibility is towards and for Americans as his highest priority. Not a bad thing at all, in fact, it’s a good thing.

Loving your country is great. Turning your back on the world, denouncing even the idea of cooperating with other countries to solve commonly held problems, stirring up fear and hatred of foreigners....these things are not good things regardless of what you want to call them.

Trump should've visited that WWI cemetery to honor the American veterans who died over there. To not go because of rain is ridiculous, especially when all of those other nations' leaders took the time to go there and pay their respects.

Disgraceful.

By the way, Trump has yet to pay a visit to the U.S. troops still fighting in the Middle East.

Does he care? Is he a coward? Why won't he go?

Funny, if France hadn't basically fought the American Revolution for you, you'd...well, you'd still be speaking the same language but you'd have Queen Elizabeth's face on your money. So uh, take that.

LOL

which is very different from being an “American nationalist”

Trump and his supporters want Mexicans shot at the border.

Donny Boy is not a nice character.

liberals cannot define what nationalism is because they want to, you can be a globalist and be a full on racist, loving your country does not make you a racist, I’m not buying that online or logic.

American nationalism is exclusive, divisive and isolationist. Nothing wrong with loving your country (if that's your thing). Patriots love their country and will stand up to bigotry, hypocrisy and demagoguery which the Trump administration is a purveyor of.

Questioning your country's motives (specifically those of your leaders) is one of the most patriotic things you can do. Remember that governments are elected to serve the people - the people do not serve the whims of the government.

Mandela, Ghandi all these people were nationalists.

The former's nationalism was all about inclusivity and embracing diversity - it wasn't about populism. In fact, it was more about socialism. In a similar vein, nationalism in Ireland has its roots in socialism (see 1916 leaders) - and still does. The Official IRA was not about sectarianism and had a socialist ethos, whereas the Provos upped the violence and some might say engaged in sectarian terrorism.

Gandhi's nationalism unfortunately appealed to racist elements within India and his dislike for black South Africans is well-documented. His non-violent approach to dissent is to be commended but also his prejudice should not be ignored.

Macron is a centerist, and is no socialist. I'd never vote for the guy but he's preferable to the likes of Le Pen and her open bigotry, anti-Semitic language and fraudulent behaviour. At the end of the day, he's not going to follow Trump's hateful path and this is what's upsetting some people who believe America has some kind of divine mandate to lead the rest of the world.

Militarily the US has not threatened Europe to my knowledge. The US helped out in the last year of WWI and helped out again for the last 3 1/2 years of WWII through active participation in the defense of freedom in Europe. The US also has a number of active bases and deployments of units all over western Europe, attached to NATO in the defense of Europe.

For Macron to say it needs its own military force to defend against Russia, China and the USA in the same breath is a large insult to the long time ally of Europe.

Yes Trump has started a trade war with much of the world, including nations within Europe. But trade is one thing and military war another.

Yes Trump is an idiot of the highest order who has no grasp of diplomacy at all. (Bull in a china shop much?).

Perhaps Macron should just ask for NATO to disband and for America to remove its forces from Europe. Doing so would be a disaster as Russia would make short work of the rest of Europe within a few years.

Not a smart strategy from the French leader. He has spent too much time in Trumps company.

Pay your fair percent of NATO costs and have free trade with the US and it would not happen

bass4funk: "Funny, had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today."

Actually, if France had never saved the US' butts in the American Revolution you'd be kissing the Queen's ring still instead of thinking you were gods. I guess you guys like to forget that one.

Anyway, it is quite amusing to Watch how bang on other nations are in zinging Trump and how utterly childish and incorrect his panicked and pained responses are. I mean, come on... the zingers that Trump couldn't attend the ceremony because he had lost his only umbrella when he didn't know how to close it entering Airforce One, accompanied by the video of the FACT that he doesn't know how to close an umbrella? Priceless! Trump making up lies about other nations in response to the priceless pointing out of the FACT Trump deferred from fighting himself? Hahaha... even Americans are joining in the fun and ease at utterly mocking the man -- he makes it so easy!

He really shouldn't throw out his nation's troops or past American efforts in war, though, since he himself was too much of a coward to fight, since he has visited but ONE military base in his entire presidency, and since he has spit on vétérans and current troops alike countless times, including saying their votes should be ignored in Florida.

Militarily the US has not threatened Europe to my knowledge. The US helped out in the last year of WWI and helped out again for the last 3 1/2 years of WWII through active participation in the defense of freedom in Europe.

No one's saying that the us, anzacs and others didn't help out, they sure did.

What, imo, Macron is saying is that countries, leaders etc change over time and that nations (in this case the EU) should be capable of defending themselves. (actually think he was 'testing' Trump and it sure worked!)

What would happen if euro nationalists/populists declared war against the EU aka 'free/globalist Europe'. Are you absolutely certain that blokes like Trump would side with what you guys call 'socialist Europe' against nationalists led by Salvini, Orban, Le Pen and perhaps Bannon? Not so sure.

Wars & conflicts aren't as black & white, good vs evil etc as Americans may think they are ( we saw that not long ago during the Yugoslav wars. Go tell Serbs that 'we' helped them out next time you're in Belgrade).

Twitter heroics but face to face chicken

American nationalism is exclusive, divisive and isolationist.

Exactly!

Nothing wrong with loving your country (if that's your thing). Patriots love their country and will stand up to bigotry, hypocrisy and demagoguery which the Trump administration is a purveyor of.

That’s left liberals take on it, I guess.

Questioning your country's motives (specifically those of your leaders) is one of the most patriotic things you can do. Remember that governments are elected to serve the people - the people do not serve the whims of the government.

They should, regardless of party affiliation, but we sadly don’t have a party that really represents the people in the way that it should. Too much government is never good. Les government is always better, self-reliance and independence has always been the strength of America.

Gandhi's nationalism unfortunately appealed to racist elements within India and his dislike for black South Africans is well-documented. His non-violent approach to dissent is to be commended but also his prejudice should not be ignored.

Yes. that is correct.

Macron is a centerist, and is no socialist. I'd never vote for the guy but he's preferable to the likes of Le Pen and her open bigotry, anti-Semitic language and fraudulent behaviour.

The difference is, Le Pen is an unapologetic White Supremest, something the President is not, never said, eleuded to or ever indicated.

some people who believe America has some kind of divine mandate to lead the rest of the world.

We do, that’s why when Trump threatened to leave the EU, they all came unglued, no one said, “fine, go and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.” When America sneezes, everyone catches a cold.

Funny, had the US not been involved in the war, the French would be all speaking German and millions of Americans would still be alive today. What is wrong with this guy. 

Right, and if America had not stepped, we TOO would be speaking German (indeed, we lost a LOT of Americans retaking parts of Alaska from the Japanese, a little known but true fact). But this emphasis of throwing the poor out or keeping put certain minorities is just like what we did with this boatload of Jews who were actually returned to Europe where many were gassed. So, your sentiments and concerns conservatives are well.....noted for their “humanity,” and your compassion for your fellow brothers speaks volumes!

We do, that’s why when Trump threatened to leave the EU, they all came unglued,

Er...I wasn't aware that the US had ever been in the EU in the first place. Perhaps that is why they came unglued.

But this emphasis of throwing the poor out or keeping put certain minorities is just like what we did with this boatload of Jews who were actually returned to Europe where many were gassed. So, your sentiments and concerns conservatives are well.....noted for their “humanity,” and your compassion for your fellow brothers speaks volumes!

Uhhhh.....no one wants to keep anyone out except for “ILLEGALS” please remember that word, Not one person said anything about legals, which is something we want and need. Try again.

Er...I wasn't aware that the US had ever been in the EU in the first place. Perhaps that is why they came unglued

Meaning the EU would come unglued.

Bass4funk you know as little as Trump when it comes to history. It wasn't just the USA that helped rebuild Japan and Europe and they were one of the last countries to head over to Europe to fight.

you know as little as Trump when it comes to history. It wasn't just the USA that helped rebuild Japan and Europe and they were one of the last countries to head over to Europe to fight.

I don’t think a lot of people know history, while true what you say, were it not for the US, Hitler for the most part, at least German Nazism, Italian Fascism would have prevailed and the Holocaust would have continued throughout Europe.

The dunce in the White House acts like a dunce again. Another day, another gaffe.

Actually, if France had never saved the US' butts in the American Revolution you'd be kissing the Queen's ring still instead of thinking you were gods. I guess you guys like to forget that one.

Just to bring an historical perspective to this, the 'American Revolution' was seen as a civil war at the time - the population was sharply divided and fought for both sides, although separatists outnumbered loyalists.

The transformation from 'civil war' to 'revolution' happened in the history books.

Inthis sense, France did not save the US's butts, but picked a side that would further its own strategic interests.

France and Macron  has NO PLACE in uncle Trump's eyes, that is for sure! Trump obesses to depise leaders much younger than him!

Meaning the EU would come unglued.

I'm still not following. The US is not a member of the EU, so how was Trump threatening to leave it?

Um, what does a D R A F T D O D G E R know about wars? About defense? Some poor stooge had to take his place in Vietnam!

It doesn’t matter if you drive dodge tonight, he wasn’t the first president to do so, end it really doesn’t matter, he’s the president and if he since soldiers into combat then that is what he has to do, remember, we have an all voluntary military, if he hast to come to the defense of Europe and he won’t, then that is his prerogative. But as I said before, if Europe wants to make a strong military, In order to do that they’re going to have to cut a lot of entitlements, a lot. And if they don’t want to do that, guess what? No European military, so then we go back to asking the US for help again.

we have an all voluntary military, if he hast to come to the defense of Europe and he won’t, then that is his prerogative

It is not the prerogative of the president to ignore treaties.

Uhhhh.....no one wants to keep anyone out except for “ILLEGALS” please remember that word, Not one person said anything about legals, which is something we want and need. Try again.

Uhhh . . . They are undocumented. Please remember that word because using any other word is inaccurate.

Time to throw in the freedom fries and freedom toast!

I just love a republican president, non stop comedy and hilarious awkwardness. Forty years from now Trump will be regarded as the Reagan of this era dethroning his main contender little Bush...

The face of the republican party is made up of spoiled rich kids, and bad actors, next up will be black rapper !

And Trump freaked out at May yesterday, too, when she congratulated him on the mid-terms, which he took as a personal insult. The man is headed for heart-attack country within the month. And today he's saying people "disguised as Democrats" kept changing costumes and going in and voting again and that's why they lost Congressional seats! hahaha.

Maybe, just maybe we are blaming the wrong person for Trump’s outbursts. maybe the the first lady immigrant with the hard to understand accent is putting him up to all of this. He is just a puppet! I mean after all, she just first the deputy vice chairman.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/no-words-watch-rachel-maddow-struggle-report-latest-melania-trump/

Meant to say Melania fired Bolton’s staff.