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Trump notches big win in Iowa caucuses

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Haley on around 25%. Interesting poll said that about half of Haley's caucus voters would vote for Biden if Trump wins the primary.

4 ( +17 / -13 )

What the photos above are missing is the iconic white and gold TRUMP CAUCUS CAPTAIN caps worn by all the relevant precinct captains.

They have really stolen the show.

Team Trump just released the following statement:

The people of Iowa sent a clear message tonight: Donald Trump will be the next Republican nominee for President. It’s now time to make him the next President of the United States. It’s time for Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, and Vivek Ramaswamy to face reality and stop wasting time and resources.

-7 ( +15 / -22 )

They have really stolen the show.

Yes. They've stolen the show so much no one is even talking about them.

o face reality and stop wasting time and resources.

lol Two things neither of which Donald is capable of. The irony.

4 ( +15 / -11 )

Haley on around 25%. Interesting poll said that about half of Haley's caucus voters would vote for Biden if Trump wins the primary.

Interesting.

Haley made the point that Trump’s spending was out of control as President. Spent like a socialist.

You wonder where fiscal conservatives can go. Biden hasn’t been as bad as Trump for spending but he’s hardly a fiscal conservative.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

“he addressed hundreds of cheering supporters at a caucus site”

lol hundreds.

He’s better sell more hats than that, he’ll need his cheque book to pay Ms. Carroll millions more dollars.

-3 ( +13 / -16 )

Trump's senior campaign adviser just posted a photo of him and it says it all:

https://twitter.com/LaCivitaC/status/1747075097792332107?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcam

-6 ( +9 / -15 )

The poor left. their darling Nikki is way behind in 3rd less than 20%.

-8 ( +15 / -23 )

I knew he would ace it. Flawless victory.

-9 ( +18 / -27 )

The poor left. their darling Nikki is way behind in 3rd less than 20%.

It’s odd that you think ‘the left’ are behind Haley.

9 ( +20 / -11 )

Republican Iowa caucus winners rarely go on to win the nomination, let alone the presidential race in the last 40 years.

Only GW Bush for his second term, who ran unopposed, and Reagan once.

0 ( +10 / -10 )

Did you not hear the left begging democrats to register at republicans and cross over and vote for Nikki to deny trump?

-7 ( +15 / -22 )

It’s odd that you think ‘the left’ are behind Haley.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/us/politics/nikki-haley-democrats-independents.html

At recent campaign events across Iowa, a number of Democrats and left-leaning independents said they saw Ms. Haley, the former governor of South Carolina, as a reasonable Republican who could move the country away from bitter partisanship and restore civility in national discourse. Many were drawn to her pledges to unite the country, and to work across the aisle on thorny issues such as abortion. Others are simply motivated by a fear of former President Donald J. Trump’s candidacy and the possibility that he will beat President Biden and regain the White House.

-10 ( +10 / -20 )

“He is totally destroying our country,” Trump said of Biden. “We were a great nation three years ago and today people are laughing at us."

America is stronger today than three years ago, better respected than three years ago. Trump has forgotten the room full of people who openly laughed in Trumps face when he was giving a speech at the UN, claiming hilariously and falsely that his administration had more accomplishments than just about any other administration in US history.

Trump made America a laughing stock and an unreliable ally. Then he tried to kill US democracy and ignore the will of the people who voted him out of office.

Should Trump avoid jail, and win the next election, I expect the western alliance to alter radically, for the US to join Russia, and the end of US democracy as Trump declares himself leader for life. Imprisoning or eliminating any and all political rivals under Putin's tutelage. This will usher in a dark time for the world as nations like Russia and China build new empires, forcing America to do likewise to compete with his dictator buddies.

Not looking good for America. Trump the destroyer.

2 ( +18 / -16 )

Republican Iowa caucus winners rarely go on to win the nomination, let alone the presidential race in the last 40 years.

Uhh..Yeah, like a fish caught on dry land and the Dems know it. Unless someone bumps off Trump, Biden’s chances don’t look good.

Only GW Bush for his second term, who ran unopposed, and Reagan once.

And now The crazy orange guy.

-11 ( +10 / -21 )

No, that was his point. What if he does something you don’t like and Congress refused to impeach him, because MAGA controls Congress

Lol no it wasn't. imagine supporting a wannabe dictator who has argued in court he has the legal right to have political opponents murdered. That's Trump. And Maga morons think this guy should be president.

7 ( +16 / -9 )

Looking at the live returns - there is not one county Trump is not leading so far. They had Haley in the lead earlier in Johnson County but he just cruised past her.

About 30% counted so far. This could be a clean sweep!

-11 ( +7 / -18 )

I can only say this... If Americans are willing to put this guy in charge... again... then they all deserve what they will get. For the rest of us in the world, we had better be ready.

S

4 ( +14 / -10 )

Go Trump. I am a proud member of Blacks for Trump.

-9 ( +13 / -22 )

Haley got SPANKED with ~8% (including the crossover voters=Democrats) with DeSantis only getting 15%.

Speaks volumes!

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

He wins a majority of rural white xenophobics who by 2:1 believe the big lie (a large majority of the general electorate does not).

60% believe that abortion should be banned in ALL situations (80% of the general electorate disagrees with this).

Slow Clap….

Droopy-leg Donald, the felon in waiting joins Bob Dole, Rick Santorum, Cancun Cruz and a host of others that won this freak show and then lost.

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

I can only say this... If Americans are willing to put this guy in charge... again... then they all deserve what they will get. 

Yep.

On the up side, the least cognitively abled have been historically the loudest. So there’s that….

1 ( +11 / -10 )

At recent campaign events across Iowa, a number of Democrats and left-leaning independents

That’s ‘the left’ is it? How many did you ask? All of them?

-1 ( +10 / -11 )

America is stronger today than three years ago,

Voters don’t think so, Biden is falling deeper into the abyss

better respected than three years ago.

For liberals, perhaps

Trump has forgotten the room full of people who openly laughed in Trumps face when he was giving a speech at the UN, claiming hilariously and falsely that his administration had more accomplishments than just about any other administration in US history. 

Trump didn’t give two…..about it. That’s what made him so appealing.

Trump made America a laughing stock and an unreliable ally.

Not to Americans, he was always America first, definitely refreshing for once to not having a globalist president and one that hates the swamp.

Then he tried to kill US democracy and ignore the will of the people who voted him out of office. 

The Dems did the same in 2016 by trying not to certify Trump and then started with the false Russian collusion faux fame.

Should Trump avoid jail, and win the next election,

No reason for him to go to jail, none.

I expect the western alliance to alter radically, for the US to join Russia, and the end of US democracy as Trump declares himself leader for life.

Here we go….lol

Imprisoning or eliminating any and all political rivals under Putin's tutelage. This will usher in a dark time for the world as nations like Russia and China build new empires, forcing America to do likewise to compete with his dictator buddies.

I think the Dems got a lot of liberals overly spooked with superstitious nonsense.

Not looking good for America. Trump the destroyer.

I think the best days are on its way.

-9 ( +13 / -22 )

At this critical time in our nation’s history, we need courageous fighters to throw the criminals out of our government and replace them with people who will uphold the law and defend our Constitutional rights. To lead US in this most noble and worthy cause, we need strong leaders who have the courage to fight aggressively against all odds to secure our national heritage of liberty.

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

finally richToday 12:10 pm JST

So Trump is most likely a criminal with 91 indictments under his belt. Throw him out?

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

Blacklabel

The poor left. their darling Nikki is way behind in 3rd less than 20%.

We don't want Haley to win. Haley would do better against Biden than Trump, so we want Trump to win the primaries.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

Polls in Iowa show that the issues people care about are the economy, the border and international instability.

This feeds into a broader trend reflected nationwide.

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

The panic is palpable.

he was supposed to he bankrupt!

He was supposed to be in jail!

he said this, he said that!

reeeeeee!

-4 ( +14 / -18 )

JJEToday 12:14 pm JST

Polls in Iowa show that the issues people care about are the economy, the border and international instability.

This feeds into a broader trend reflected nationwide.

Haley is winning the foreign policy voters, so good on you for pointing that out, Mr. Non-American.

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BlacklabelToday 12:15 pm JST

Year is still young.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

The panic is palpable.

he was supposed to he bankrupt!

He was supposed to be in jail!

he said this, he said that!

reeeeeee!

Dont worry Blacklabel, the walls 'are closing in'. Or something like that.

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

I think the best days are on its way.

No doubt. A trial. Multiple convictions. Imprisonment. And a quiet “passing” alone and forgotten in solitary confinement.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

At this critical time in our nation’s history, we need courageous fighters to throw the criminals out of our government and replace them with people who will uphold the law and defend our Constitutional rights. To lead US in this most noble and worthy cause,

That completely rules Trump out then. So who do you have in mind for that? Biden's best days are behind him, Trump is a criminal idiot who does not listen to the peoples vote or defend the constitution or even honor his oath of office. So who else is there running, Haley? She seems more trust worthy than anyone else in the GOP but lacks the ground level support. America is fractured and badly needs someone it can depend on to put the nation first.

1 ( +9 / -8 )

Trump won't be on the Nevada primary ballot.

Not because of insurrection, but because he and his ship of fools are incompetent. They failed to file the paperwork in time. No whining or bombastic, all-cap social media lies will alter that.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

Year is still young.

yep so much suffering and loss for your team ahead. Then the 4 years starts and nothing you can do about it.

-9 ( +8 / -17 )

The panic is palpable.

In your cartoon universe. Where Trump is a buff superhero.

We all know Trump is popular among Republicans and that he'll get the nomination. It's depressing that there are that many morons in America, but it's nothing new. And the general is still a long way off.

9 ( +18 / -9 )

The panic is palpable.

he was supposed to he bankrupt! 

He was supposed to be in jail!

he said this, he said that!

Have the verdicts come in yet or are you just making this all up?

He will be bankrupt. That’s coming.

1 ( +9 / -8 )

As I've said before, a deceased or jailed Trump would have trounced those comedy candidates. I'm guessing lil' Ron will be "suspending" his campaign imminently.

LOL at all those who contributed to de Sanctimonious' campaign! On the upside, it probably bought him a wardrobe full of 4-inch booster boots.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

yep so much suffering and loss for your team ahead.

Bold words from the backer of a guy who never won the popular vote.

Then the 4 years starts and nothing you can do about it.

Won't just be 4 years if Trump gets his way.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

Blacklabel

The panic is palpable.

he was supposed to he bankrupt!

He was supposed to be in jail!

he said this, he said that!

reeeeeee!

Not at all. Only a fool would think that Trump wouldn't win this comfortably. Luckily, he has not much chance in a general election, and that chance isn't going to get any better as he litigates throughout the year.

So much suffering and loss for your team ahead. Then the 4 years starts and nothing you can do about it.

4 ( +13 / -9 )

So the nightmare scenario for the democrats begins, and you only have yourselves to blame. You done played yourselves into a corner and invited your worst nightmare to slowly edge towards you. It’s almost cathartic!

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

As I've said before, a deceased or jailed Trump would have trounced those comedy candidates

Not as comical as you describing Trump and Pence as the envy of western democracies.

Anyway, are there any fiscal conservatives left? I remember the days when conservatives used to put this front and centre.

Trump went berserk with the credit card.

Are there any candidates for fiscal conservatives?

1 ( +8 / -7 )

Hervé L'EisaToday 12:00 pm JST

Haley got SPANKED with ~8% (including the crossover voters=Democrats) with DeSantis only getting 15%.

Speaks volumes!

This comment did not age well. Haley has 18.5% of the vote. DeSantis is not much further ahead with 19.9%. Not too bad for troglodyte state.

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

Peter NeilToday  12:22 pm JST

Look at the full truth - In 2021, the state legislature in Nevada passed a bill that ditched the traditional caucuses and embraced a state-run primary. The change was led by Nevada Democrats.

Trump is off the ballot in the primary not because of disqualification or the 14 Amendment, but because he (and others) chose to participate in the state GOP-sanctioned caucus instead, which will take place two days later.

He chose to stand with the state GOP and compete only in the caucus, where delegates will be chosen.

It was a nasty little trick they tried to pull.

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Bold words from the backer of a guy who never won the popular vote.

Not how you “win” you know this. cry harder.

it’s a loss for Trump if he “only” wins by 30 and doesn’t get 50% today?

Won't just be 4 years if Trump gets his way.

I’m fine with more, but not how our system works so he only gets 4. But without impeachment threat and no prison or bankruptcy, Dems have nothing.

-7 ( +8 / -15 )

SpideyToday 11:57 am JST

I can only say this... If Americans are willing to put this guy in charge... again... then they all deserve what they will get. For the rest of us in the world, we had better be ready.

S

We didn't put him in charge the first time with a popular vote. You are right, though, that you had better be ready to send weapons to Ukraine.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

Then the 4 years starts and nothing you can do about it.

Why stop at 4 years?

0 ( +7 / -7 )

BlacklabelToday  12:15 pm JST

The panic is palpable.

You mistake panic with “scorn”.

he was supposed to he bankrupt! 

He was supposed to be in jail

I know you live in an alternate reality bubble, but the trials have yet to start criminally and he has already been found liable.

He will be attending an incarceration camp. He is going to go bankrupt.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Not how you “win” you know this. cry harder.

lol No one is crying. It's just rather comical watching rightists get so excited when they've never won the popular vote. Their ideas aren't popular, so they insist on an old, antiquated system to hopefully squeek out a win.

It's also quite funny how they'll quickly accept the results of an election, but only if they like the outcome. "Heads I win, tails you lose."

I’m fine with more, but not how our system works so he only gets 4.

Since when have rightists cared how the system works? Trump certainly doesn't.

4 ( +11 / -7 )

you think Trump can override Congress and the military and become another Stalin?

Absolute presidential immunity. That's what Team Trump is arguing.

0 ( +8 / -8 )

He will be attending an incarceration camp. He is going to go bankrupt.

ummm nope. You know this.

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

ummm nope. You know this.

Um…. Yep. I DO know this.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

Fox News is melting down that Nikki Haley is in 3rd.

They seem ready to call Arizona for Biden again.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

What?

What your man said in Iowa. Not reported on Fox or Newsmax.

Both of those “news” sights are WAY too MSN for citizen journalists such as ours on JT.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Well then you better win Congress huh?

why would Dems lose the House and the Senate that are decided by…..muh popular vote?

-10 ( +3 / -13 )

Before she left, Haley offered a subtle jab at Trump while addressing voters at a same caucus site.

By constantly tacking right into the depths of authoritarianism, MAGA can keep on claiming that things like an utterly predictable win in the Iowa Republican primary against Haley is some big win against "woke, Marxist" politics.

They have internalized duopolistic politics so much they use it against themselves.

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/sc-gov-nikki-haleys-real-economic-record-corporate-subsidies-over-public-good

Trump, Haley, Desantis are all just corporate tools looking for a position at the corporate trough.

Trump just happens to be better at marketing than anyone else.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Trump is likely going to win ALL 99 counties. How embarrassing for Haley and Ron.

Haley couldnt even win the places where Democrats fake registered as republicans to vote for her.

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

Shoulda, coulda arrested 45 on Jan. 7. Biden's, Garland's priority was to limit damage to America's ruling political establishment and preserve the corrupt duopoly (still no congressmen & senators in on the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election have been investigated and charged). A stitch in time saves nine was never more true. Only a radical move to remove the menace can save the country from the abyss of Trump's "retribution".

0 ( +5 / -5 )

Haley had a shocker. Don't think she will even win a single county unless this map which is painted Trump changes with less than 20% to count.

Ron actually did better than expected in some sense - but he spent $100-150 million of donor cash on Iowa over the last year, effectively staking everything on it and he is not polling well in the next nominating states.

Trump has smashed the record books with this performance.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

Well Done President Trump 2025

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

BlacklabelToday 12:23 pm JST

Year is still young.

yep so much suffering and loss for your team ahead. Then the 4 years starts and nothing you can do about it.

Biden is not appearing in a courtroom this year and attempts to sully his record with commercials are going to be met with much laughter in comparison to the former guy.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Crucially Trump has The Big Mo - he'll be hard to stop from here.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Through it all, Trump has intentionally used his legal problems as a political asset.

Trump’s legal challenges appear to have done little damage to his reputation as the charges are seen through a political lens.

About three-quarters say the charges against Trump are political attempts to undermine him, rather than legitimate attempts to investigate important issues, according to AP VoteCast.

These three paragraphs catch the eye.....

There is more than a ring of truth.

Trump advisers have skilfully taken full advantage of the platform gifted to him by his most ardent detractors.

All for free.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Trump is addressing a huge crowd to cheers right now on TV.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

“We don’t even know what the outcome of 2nd place is!”

trump is hilarious!

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

Crucially Trump has The Big Mo - he'll be hard to stop from here

Yes, but I’m MAGA world, the democrats are genius level at stealing elections. Totally outwitted and outmaneuvered Trump.

That is the elephant in the room for those living in that world.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

JJEToday 12:57 pm JST

Trump is addressing a huge crowd to cheers right now on TV.

Does it make you EXCITED JJE? US surrender just around the corner you are thinking I imagine.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

*in MAGA world

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Crucially Trump has The Big Mo - he'll be hard to stop from here.

Just as hard as he was to stop in 2020. :)

Anywayy, let's talk about those iconic white captain hats.

All for free.

Which is good, that's all he can afford.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

itsonlyrocknroll

Through it all, Trump has intentionally used his legal problems as a political asset.

Trump’s legal challenges appear to have done little damage to his reputation as the charges are seen through a political lens.

About three-quarters say the charges against Trump are political attempts to undermine him, rather than legitimate attempts to investigate important issues, according to AP VoteCast.

These three paragraphs catch the eye.....

There is more than a ring of truth.

Trump advisers have skilfully taken full advantage of the platform gifted to him by his most ardent detractors.

There is some truth that people think that Trump has been prosecuted as a political means to keep him from running.

It is incorrect, however. No politics have been involved in the prosecutions.

When the trials start and the overwhelming evidence comes out about Trump's crimes, people will see and his popularity will likely plummet. Chris Christie is right.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

These numbers are actually quite bad for trump, he only has half the Republican party with him. A lot of Haley and desantis voters are “never trump”, and a lot of their votes will go onto support the democrat candidate.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

In my 70+ years, I’ve not seen a time with more cult wackiness than now. Not even the McCarthy days were this bizarre.

It’s hard to imagine that so many supposedly educated people would think a dysfunctional, crooked narcissist was sent by God to save the world.

Everyone in the Trump White House has said he was ignorant about every issue that came up. He knows nothing.

Chauncey Gardener in the movie “Being There” would be a better candidate than either of the front runners in either party.

What the hell is wrong with people? Both would be in their 80’s. A sad state of affairs.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

Own what you’re about, “patriots.”

7 ( +8 / -1 )

It looks like Trump won every single county. Still confirming.

Definitely record breaking stuff either way.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

He is leading by huge margins in every county with only one not reporting.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

For the record, that's 99 counties in total with one only - Jefferson County - not reporting (could be weather related).

It looks like a clean sweep!

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

Haley has a better chance of beating Biden than Trump.

Trump is not viewed favorably by independents and moderates. Haley’s defeat is good news for Biden.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Vivek is out.

8% more votes to Trump.

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

We all know Trump is popular among Republicans and that he'll get the nomination. It's depressing that there are that many morons in America, but it's nothing new. And the general is still a long way off.

I’m a moron for wanting a sovereign nation, secure borders, heavily, staff, police, heavy, incarceration for criminal activity, winning American, first agenda, low, gas prices, low food prices, fixing our infrastructure in our homelessness, that’s OK, I can live with that, call me amor on all day, proudly.

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

2020hindsights

Have the confidence to try Donald Trump at the ballot box.

The American people presented with the facts are more than capable to make a informed choice.

The US constitution does not require these show trials.

Fourteenth Amendment  Equal Protection and Other Rights Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

Is a blunt instrument, never intended to remove Trump from standing again for office.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights

Have the confidence to try Donald Trump at the ballot box.

So you think that laws don't apply to presidents. They can get off scot free?

The American people presented with the facts are more than capable to make a informed choice.

Sure. And the facts are likely that Trump committed crimes. The people desrve to know that before an election.

The US constitution does not require these show trials.

It most certainly does. And they are not show trials.

Fourteenth Amendment  Equal Protection and Other Rights Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

Is a blunt instrument,

That is just the constitution. You may think it isn't fair, but certainly you can't ignore the constitution.

never intended to remove Trump from standing again for office.

The second amendment was never intended to cover AR-15's. So what?

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

dagon

Today 12:45 pm JST

Trump just happens to be better at marketing than anyone else.

Must be, given what he's got to work with.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

TaiwanIsNotChina

Today 12:59 pm JST

JJEToday 12:57 pm JST

Does it make you EXCITED JJE? US surrender just around the corner you are thinking I imagine.

It's a bit like John Oliver talking about Adam Driver, except that they are not kidding as far as I can tell.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Crucially Trump has The Big Mo - he'll be hard to stop from here.

Jack Smith has bigger MO and if Trump runs and wins, I'd be happy to see him play Potus from behind bars.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Jimizo -

Not as comical as you describing Trump and Pence as the envy of western democracies.

You may have called it comical, and fair enough. But look at a bunch of democracies in the past few years - Italy, Holland, Hungary, Argentina, Brazil (the prior hard right regime anyway), even the UK with their immigration policies - and their "English Trump", Johnson. Im sure Ive missed plenty. Most of these have outwardly campaigned as admirers of Trump. And they were elected.

So maybe not a huge stretch to state that many of these leaders - and their electors - had envied Trump. For better or worse.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

I’m a moron for wanting a sovereign nation, secure borders, heavily, staff, police, heavy, incarceration for criminal activity, winning American, first agenda, low, gas prices, low food prices, fixing our infrastructure in our homelessness, that’s OK, I can live with that, call me amor on all day, proudly.

Semi-literate drivel. The right can only obstruct and deflect from the fact their policies harm everyday people, and their candidate is only running to stay out of jail. They are facing a historically strong economy, and the extremist lunatics in charge have no answers. Should have stopped after the first three words of his comment. If we could somehow turn each downvote this guy receives into 1/1000th of an IQ point, he might be worth listening to.

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Fighto!

Today 02:06 pm JST

... and their "English Trump", Johnson

The expression Trump himself used was "Britain Trump," which is gibberish.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

2020hindsights

Laws apply to us all, whether Kings, Queens, Presidents, road sweepers, candlestick makers.

Especially to Donald Trump. Joe Biden.

I am not naïve enough that political expediency throws shade over how laws are enforced.

I do admire US constitution, and the American friends and colleges I constantly irritate and enjoy our zoom time.

I genuinely believe they can spot a political phoney. Either Republican or Democrat.

Yes, interpreting the US constitution is another matter altogether.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

I do admire US constitution, and the American friends and colleges I constantly irritate and enjoy our zoom time.

I’m not one of them.

I genuinely believe they can spot a political phoney. Either Republican or Democrat.

Many of us can.

Yes, interpreting the US constitution is another matter altogether.

It very much is and soooo many non-Americans get it wrong.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

The expression Trump himself used was "Britain Trump," which is gibberish.

And to be fair to BJ, I don't think he ever marketed himself as that - more so the media. But many right-wing world leaders today certainly did make the connection to Trump in their campaigns. It seems an effective strategy right now, and I suspect going forward.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

When this US election seriously gets going. I think will be essential viewing.

There will be no hiding place for the candidates.

This is why I solemnly believe that if the Republicans choose Donald Trump that should be respected.

As much as the democrats support of Joe Biden.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

You wonder where fiscal conservatives can go. Biden hasn’t been as bad as Trump for spending but he’s hardly a fiscal conservative.

I've given up on that fight. My voting qualification for any candidate is simple now. I won't vote for any liars. That drops about 80% of Republican office seekers, unfortunately.

How can a good Christian vote for a liar? Not just little lies either, but whopper lies. I don't understand how they can reconcile Trump's behavior against the 10 Commandments. He bares false witness against people he doesn't like hourly. I have no doubt that he's had more than 10 people killed in his business dealings.

I expected more from my neighbors in Iowa. I really did. They are good, hardworking, honest people, yet they are helping Trump? I can't understand how they can do that.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights

Laws apply to us all, whether Kings, Queens, Presidents, road sweepers, candlestick makers.

Especially to Donald Trump. Joe Biden.

Well only Trump has been indicted.

I am not naïve enough that political expediency throws shade over how laws are enforced.

I think you will have to come up with some proof for that assertion.

Yes, interpreting the US constitution is another matter altogether.

So up to SCOTUS.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

itsonlyrocknroll

When this US election seriously gets going. I think will be essential viewing.

There will be no hiding place for the candidates.

This is why I solemnly believe that if the Republicans choose Donald Trump that should be respected.

It should be respected. But I doubt that he will win a general election. Especially as the year pans out and people find out about Trump's crimes.

They would be better served with Haley or Christie.

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It should be respected. But I doubt that he will win a general election.

At this point, I disagree.

Especially as the year pans out and people find out about Trump's crimes.

We know, we know, the Dems have been trying so hard to stick it to him for the last eight years, and as you can see in the United States, people are not paying attention to what the Democrats are saying.

They would be better served with Haley or Christie.

There is the reason why they didn’t win, and that’s because their establishment, not to mention not all that likable particularly Christie.

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2020hindsights

I cannot prove only offer an opinion, righty or wrongly.

My thoughts or assumptions are focused on why was Trump indicted in the first place, and the political meaning behind the timing and reasoning.

Insurrection? or a rather ugly riot punctuated by a man in horns.

It all feels surreal, overplayed.

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bass4funkToday 01:25 pm JST

I’m a moron for wanting a sovereign nation, secure borders, heavily, staff, police, heavy, incarceration for criminal activity, winning American, first agenda, low, gas prices, low food prices, fixing our infrastructure in our homelessness, that’s OK, I can live with that, call me amor on all day, proudly.

You have to pay alot for all of that stuff, and I doubt you are willing to. Tax cuts are net reducers in revenue as we saw with the first Trump term.

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You have to pay alot for all of that stuff, and I doubt you are willing to.

For my country, I would, most Americans would.

Tax cuts are net reducers in revenue as we saw with the first Trump term.

Not for small businesses, they loved the Trump tax cuts and small businesses are the backbone of American prosperity. We have two businesses, they weren’t struggling under Trump, quite the opposite, but it’s very difficult under this administration.

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It's all rigged anyway. Trump will never be legitimate by his own argument.

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Commercial real estate around the world, but especially in NYC is losing about 40% of the value it had pre-covid. Banks are being stuck with buildings they don't want and cannot sell for a price that allows any profit. Until the banks solve this, commercial real estate is about 30% of their loans, banks are screws.

How does this related to Trump? He does real estate investing and effectively, 40% of the value for all his properties disappeared. He's effectively 20-40% poorer, depending on his building portfolio.

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My thoughts or assumptions are focused on why was Trump indicted in the first place, and the political meaning behind the timing and reasoning.

he was indicted due to his litany of violations of the law. He’s running so he can claim prosecution is election interference and hopefully pardon himself if elected.

respectfully, itsonlyrocknroll, it’s disappointing that you are falling for his persecution narrative.

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DES MOINES, Iowa is early days, the front runners are just getting the feel for what is to come.

The backdrop to this 2024 US election will be the crisis in the middle east, Russia continued war in Ukraine, the may I suggest still ongoing economic mayhem pandemic that the global community still obvious as to its origins.

The US people will demand answers from the candidates.

Making America Great Again a slogan that will require policies over rhetoric.

Joe Biden head to head with Donald Trump could be the purging of America soul.

There is clear political water between Trump and Biden.

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itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights

I cannot prove only offer an opinion, righty or wrongly.

Sure. Well, thanks for admitting that. I think many people have this opinion. I won't entertain it without evidence.

My thoughts or assumptions are focused on why was Trump indicted in the first place, and the political meaning behind the timing and reasoning.

Did you see Jan 6? Have you been following the cases? Did you see the Jan 6 committee hearings?

Insurrection? or a rather ugly riot punctuated by a man in horns.

Again. Did you see the Jan 6 committee hearings?

It all feels surreal, overplayed.

No it isn't. But make sure you follow the case to find out why.

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“respectfully, itsonlyrocknroll, it’s disappointing that you are falling for his persecution narrative.”

Kurumazaka 2, you are not the first person to make that point, allayed to the fact i have never put a foot in the US.

Trump is an political enigma, not just for the US but also for the EU. France and Germany are in political contortions.

Trump strikes the fear of the devil in his opponents, I suggest without reason.

Let give it more time. It early days.

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It's nice to be reminded of the days when the US had a president who could actually talk.

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Itsonlyrocknroll,

I fear I misjudged you. You’re not falling for anything. You’re acknowledging that others will.

and you’re right.

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