Trump says he can name at least 20 Democrats who are worse than the 'squad'

Donny says a lot of things, of which very few are truthful or accurate.

So please Donnie, share with the world the other 20 people who you think should "go back to their own countries" and clean things up there?

Does Nancy Pelosi head that list?

"I could name another 20 right now. Without looking at a note I could name another 20 that I think are in many ways worse."

The guy can't even pronounce "anonymous" or "origins" right. Now way he has the faculties to remember 20 names and tell them without notes.

"These are people that I believe, honestly, I believe they hate our country," he said.

Says Trump in his ongoing attempts to undermine US systems, as he attacks opposition (fundamental to any democracy, rights to oppose guaranteed in the US Constitution), as he attacks the 'media' (in the alt right glossary 'media' means outlets that don't push the alt right agenda), as he attacks the courts and Congress (fundamental to the US to ensure balance of powers, needed to check an executive who wants to seize control for himself, his family and the faction of the .01% he prefers).

Trump encourages foreign governments to meddle in US politics. Trump has spent his entire life taking from the country, given little. I say Trump's the one who hates the country.

Now all the dems will be separating themselves from the squad to prove they're not worse; when in actuality, they're all a choir that sings an obscene tune.

Fake news.

I can understand Trump lying as usual to try to score points, but there is no need to let go of reality here in a sensible conversation. It comes across as delirium rather than ‘politicking’.

@wolfpack How about ignoring race

If you're an American you know that's not possible, unless your intent is to continue to sweep the very serious problems related to race (and class) under the carpet. Only someone from the majority culture would suggest 'ignoring' race. And by saying 'ignore race', I think (as a white American) you're NOT ignoring race, you're pushing a white perspective.

Trump's base is primarily White. Roughly 67% of White males voted for him Trump7s playing to his demographic.

I guess he spent a few days putting together a list of white democrats he could criticize to show how he’s not racist - he hates everyone equally!

there is no need to let go of reality here in a sensible conversation. It comes across as delirium rather than ‘politicking’.

Hyper partisanship is the new norm for the American right.

Trump is trying to turn the group into the face of the Democratic Party heading into the 2020 presidential election, using their views and policy positions to paint the party as extreme and its leaders as wrong for the future of the country.

Right, so let's trot out Repub Rep Steve King who says "what's wrong with the term white supremacy?" Or Repub Gov Desantis who said "don't monkey it up" when talking about his black opponent? Of course who can forget some Neo Nazis and white supremacists are "very fine people". There's your face of the Repub Party.

"They have a big problem because they have others than these four," Trump said of Democrats during the nearly 80-minute speech. "I could name another 20 right now. Without looking at a note I could name another 20 that I think are in many ways worse."

Fine, Americans can name 44 other Presidents that are better than you (and that includes Nixon)...

"I don't believe the four Congresswomen are capable of loving our Country." 

Think about that statement - think how much hate it contains. Saying about someone, "they are incapable of loving our country". It's a statement you'd expect to hear from the KKK or Pravda or any other organization that traffics in hate and fear. It shows Trump for the pitiful excuse for a human being he really is...

It's similar to what my mom told me at the dinner table: if you don't like what's cooked then you don't have to eat, you may be excused.

Yes because citizens have no more right to speak up about their country than children do about the food they’ve been given.

Seems legit. Carry on.

Trump can't go back to when his family came from, because Germany bannished his grandfather.

"A Royal decree ordered Friedrich Trump to leave Bavaria and never come back after he failed to do military service"

Like grandfather, like grandson.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree

Trump is trolling the Democrats and they're biting every time. Hilarious!

If Trump can name 20 Democrats, I would be surprised.

Trump told the students that young people are thriving under his economic stewardship, but also warned of bias against conservatives.

High cost private schools are thriving under Trump. Many federally funded state programs that help underprivileged and help support giving educational opportunities to those less fortunate have had their federal funds cut or canceled by his Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. Like schools that already have millions of dollars in endowment need federal funding.

A key example of this was the Spectrum and Pace program that helped gifted JH students from underprivileged areas make it to better high schools and even better universities was recently canceled in the Bronx because DeVos cut federal funding.

"If you don't like America and then you can go back to where you come from" is racist?

Did he directly name when he tweeted?

Could you (someone) please answer me? English language is my second language.

For me, if we don't like Australia and then we will go back to our country.

Students, many of whom sported Trump's signature red campaign caps, booed when he mentioned Tlaib by name.

A youth organization cheering on a tyrant. Hmmm.

There were cheers when a short biographical film of Trump mentioned his claimed talents in soccer, wrestling, football and baseball, and again for a series of clips in which he said “I like winning” better than merely taking part, insulted comedian Rosie O’Donnell and promised to build a wall.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/23/trump-boris-johnson-britain-trump-uk-prime-minister

Directed by a latter day Leni Riefenstalh, no doubt.

"If you don't like America and then you can go back to where you come from" is racist?

Yes, it's an old racist trope that's been around for generations. It's used in plenty of countries and is a derogatory and offensive remark. It's often said to people who are seen by the majority as "other", or their skin color or religion doesn't "fit".

It's been used in this case as a dog whistle for his core supporters, who are bigots.

Did he directly name when he tweeted?

Not initially, but since then he's doubled down and pumped out a number of lies about the Congresswomen, saying that they called the US "garbage" and so on.

There is no substance to his wild claims and xenephobic language. And he won't attack them on their policies because he doesn't understand them.

Dumbest story ever. Please stop giving him a platform for 2nd grade comments.

Aside from the fact that this is inherently racist, and sweeps MLK under the carpet; the only time I've heard race mentioned is by the media and during the democratic debates.

The tactic of the far right - deflect from the racism of your leader and call opponents of said racism "racist".

As far as I am concerned, all Trump did was tell 4 American citizens that if they hate the country so bad and consider it garbage, they're free to relocate to a better country--that's what I heard. *

That's what you heard? Maybe you better get your story right before you throw in your support for him.

It's similar to what my mom told me at the dinner table: if you don't like what's cooked then you don't have to eat, you may be excused.

It's nothing of the sort. The 4 Congresswomen criticised the concentration camps, which riled Trump. They also have sensible policies that benefit ordinary Americans and that terrifies Trump and the elitist class.

The scariest thing for the elite is if ordinary people were united (people of all color and religion etc) and realized that they have always been and always will be shafted by the Republicans and the Democrats. If they stopped the merry go round and went for something fresh and beneficial.

People like Trump do not want the people united - hence the ugly rhetoric and demonizing of minorities.

@Mr. Noidall

Millions have been thrown at these schools and still the students under perform

So you’re saying that because the schools underperform, that the students don’t deserve the opportunity to still prove the system wrong? You should make that decision for the students? Even the ones that perform.

As for you assuming that those programs are not needed, underprivileged areas don’t have billionaires and millionaires pumping money into their neighborhoods and school systems. That is part of the reason they need that federal funding.

As for scholarships, they don’t cover everything. I know people who received scholarships to great private high schools. They couldn’t afford the transportation and family couldn’t afford to move. So what happened instead was some of those students opted to go to lesser schools. Every person’s situation isn’t equal. Also, if you think the less fortunate are not deserving of government funding, then what makes the more fortunate, that have all the funding they can ever need, deserving of funding?

Also, you would be foolish to think that high priced schools don’t underperform. They are simply not as regulated and teachers will make things easier for those that have the money to pay for the services.

The insufferable farcical current occupant of the White House is the chief purveyor of disinformation, fake news and misinformation and a grave threat to U.S. national security and global wellbeing.

He continues to entertain his political base and gets away with it. Question: When will this end and the country is able to return to a semblance of normalcy?

@thefu Nope. Not racist.

That's your individual personal opinion. I say it is racist.

t applies to any person regardless of race who doesn't like America

That's your (and Trump supporter's) opinion. I have never met any American of any sort who did NOT criticize their country. Being critical of the country - to me, my opinion - does not mean they hate the country, does not mean they should 'go back where they came from'. Anecdotal, but having lived in several countries I have been told - with no context other than my presence in 'their' land - to 'go back to my country'. I think each person who said that was if not a racist, a bigot of some sort. A hater.

Why has Trump been so critical of the US? Using Trumpian logic (a subset of dream logic) he hates the country.

Less fortunate doesn’t only mean non whites. Also, I’m not making it about race. I’m speaking about less fortunate school zones that also includes white neighborhoods. Schools zones that don’t have the funding to draw in better teachers or programs that help students.

"If you don't like America and then you can go back to where you come from" is racist?

Nope. It's just pointing out how some Americans are Americans, and some are "Americans", you know, lesser Americans. Real Americans are American, lesser Americans are "American". You know, "American, but..."

There was nothing wrong with telling these "Americans" that they need to shut the hell up and let American be Made Great Again. "Americans" aren't real Americans, and therefore don't have any right to try to Make America Great. As "Americans", they don't count.

Trump's just an idiot.

There are no concentration camps.

Hello, I'm sure people have said that one before.

@mrnoidall Being born into poor doesn't mean you're automatically doomed unless you're listening to a democrat.

The US ranks low in economic mobility. The odds are if you're raised in a trailer park/ghetto/barrio, that's where you'll probably end up. And if you're born in a Los Gatos-type upscale place, that's where you'll probably also end up.

Criticize the Democrats all you want. What are Trump and his Republicans proposing?

Read the Conclusion: http://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/assets/2015/07/fsm-irs-report_artfinal.pdf

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aparnamathur/2018/07/16/the-u-s-does-poorly-on-yet-another-metric-of-economic-mobility/#2d94eb936a7b

So that means whenever it's used it's automatically racist?

Yes.

Sorry, I don't agree with that type of simple thinking

I've noticed. I've had friends beaten up, hospitalized and each case, the refrain from the attackers was "go back to Africa/Poland/Pakistan" etc.

It's a dangerous, hateful trope. And should never become accepted discourse.

Criticize someone's politics, sure. But don't be racist/homophobic/sexist about it.

Democrats spreading more hate and divisiveness, typical.

Trump's just an idiot.

I don't know. He he sure knows how to play the Democrats.

But it's either idiocy or genius. Nowhere in between.

The addled Trump also tells the sorry band of brainwashed youngsters: “I have an Article 2 where I have the right to do whatever I want as president," (somewhere in one of his pockets?). Yeah, but the people have a bigger Article, called the 25th, to trump his delusions of grandeur. The Dems and those Republicans with a conscience ( an oxymoron?) need to pull that one out of their pocket pronto. Even Ivanka, the candy of her father's eye, is already showing signs of early-onset with her "United Kingston" tweet, matching her Daddy's "God bless the United Church".

One sentence only and oh so wrong.

About Trump, apology accepted.

Where, when and who from the democrats did that?

All of them, definitely the House Democrats....by the way, when will they pass legislation or when will they come up with legislation that doesn’t involve taking someone else’s money?

Any (reliable!!!) quotes? How about doing a quick internet search?

You liberals own it, so the spread is there for the taking.

Trump's entire campaign is built on telling uneducated white males that they are the victims in this country.

when will they come up with legislation that doesn’t involve taking someone else’s money?

You prefer tax cuts for the elite, so not surprising you fear them.

really wish Dems would recognize that Americans want politicians to make policies for citizens, not for foreigners

really wish Dems would recognize that Americans want politicians to make policies for citizens, not for foreigners

Oh, Americans as opposed to "Americans".

Dog whistle or bullhorn?

Next midterms, when the dems lose the house, things will get done.

Is this the new campaign slogan? Vote Trump: we'll start working in 2022!!

Mr. Noidall:  Dems don't care about immigrants. We care about immigrants--legal ones! 

https://www.people-press.org/2017/10/05/4-race-immigration-and-discrimination/

"Overall, 84% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say immigrants do more to strengthen than burden the country. Republicans are split in their views of the contributions of immigrants: 44% say immigrants do more to burden the country, while about as many (42%) say they do more to strengthen the country."

More deflections so nobody looks at all the deals he promised and anyone has yet to see...

Trump making a fiasco a day. For the past 2.5 years the White House has been an absolute catastrophe, absolute chaos. Trump has made the US the laughing stock of the world and it will linger for many years to come. If one elects a clown to run a nation, one gets a clown. Is the WH doing anything constructive other than putting out spot fires started by the Clown?

At least you have the good sense to recognize Trump will be in office 2020.

Of course he will: his term doesn't conclude until January 20, 2021.

Bam!

Uh-oh, more alt-right, Trumper violence...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/cesar-sayoc-mail-bomb-suspect-fox-news-hannity-trump

The fab four all represent underrepresented and impoverished constituents and districts, and the four are throwing them all under the bus just for the latino vote.

Yea, sure - who's locking up Latino children at the border in cages?

Dems don't care about immigrants. We care about immigrants--legal ones!

Well, that certainly goes for Melania and her parents. Am sure quite a few Russian immigrants are included there too... But give him credit, Trump cares for more than just legal immigrants - look at all those illegal ones he's employed at his properties...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-undocumented-workers-golf-club_n_5c5daca6e4b03afe8d673bf1

The dems are just trying to replace their base since many pocs are working and thriving under Trump and are exiting the deomcratic plantation en masse. Plain and simple.

"Plantation" - now there's a word Trumpers understand...MAGA....right?

really wish Dems would recognize that Americans want politicians to make policies for citizens, not for foreigners

Really wish Pubs would recognize that Americans didn't want Trump, and don't support his policies.

Really wish Trump would recognize that Americans want their president to make policies for all Americans.

Mr. Noidall: Well, in all seriousness, how would you say immigrants strengthen a country? I mean that seriously, like how do you view it?

Based on the data, do more Republicans support immigrants? I believe that was your point.

Well, in all seriousness, how would you say immigrants strengthen a country? I mean that seriously, like how do you view it?

Because the type of person to migrate to another country is usually of an upstanding character, ready to work hard to make a good life for their families.

Literally every immigrant I've ever known (and ever been for that matter), was such.

You realize you are on a site where a significant number of us are immigrants, right?

You realize your country was literally created through immigration, right?

Sure. Let me rephrase. At least you have the good sense to realize he'll be in office in 2022.

It's certainly possible. But "we promise to jerk off doing nothing for two years" isn't likely to improve the odds of President Babybrains being re-elected. Right now Trump's best shot at being re-elected is Joe Biden winning the nomination for the Democratic Party.

It should include all the Democrats running for POTUS who believe that the USA should offer free health care to everyone INCLUDING those not even citizens of the US.

You failed to answer the question.

No I didn't.

Question: how would you say immigrants strengthen a country?

Answer: Because the type of person to migrate to another country is usually of an upstanding character, ready to work hard to make a good life for their families.

Maybe you need it spelled out: Because they are hard working people with strong ethics.

A long time ago when I visited Bolivia, I remarked to my Bolivian friend that I don't agree with Evo Morales' policies or where he is taking the country is not necessarily good for the country. A person sitting at the next table said directly to me: "Gringo! If you don't like Bolivia or our President, why don't you go back where you come from!"

I leaned later that in Latin America one DOES NOT criticize El Presidente or criticize the country.

So without offense, I followed his advice: I went back to the U.S. where I felt more comfortable and approve. And I don't consider the Bolivian calling me a "gringo" racist, nor did I consider his remark "Go back where you come from" to be racism either. He was proud of his President and his country as he had every right to be. And anyone who dares criticizes will be subject to his wrath.

It's interesting that in Latin America, one can voice exactly the same kind of sentiments, i.e., national pride for your country and disapproval of anyone who is critical of their country (as President Trump is doing).

Yet in the U.S. and among the leftist and/or liberals, it is considered "racist" as the "Gang of Four" and their media minion supporters accuse. How hypersensitive we as a nation have become.

And I don't consider the Bolivian calling me a "gringo" racist, nor did I consider his remark "Go back where you come from" to be racism either. 

I get it. I mean, as someone who isn’t Bolivian, or even “Bolivian” for that matter, you did the right thing by shutting the hell up. Just like “Americans” need to shut the hell up and think that real Americans care about how they want to make America great.

So without offense, I followed his advice: I went back to the U.S. where I felt more comfortable and approve. And I don't consider the Bolivian calling me a "gringo" racist, nor did I consider his remark "Go back where you come from" to be racism either. He was proud of his President and his country as he had every right to be. And anyone who dares criticizes will be subject to his wrath.

You forgot to mention that everyone stood up and clapped, that the professor was speechless and that the bear was Albert Einstein.

Well, in all seriousness, how would you say immigrants strengthen a country? I mean that seriously, like how do you view it?

Your country was built by immigrants. Your President is from immigrant stock. His wife is.

Interesting that you don't see them as strengthening the US.

Trump making a fiasco a day.

So you’re saying he should just shut up and like all former Republican Presidents take a verbal beating each time? Not going to happen with this President.

For the past 2.5 years the White House has been an absolute catastrophe, absolute chaos.

I personally wished he would have fired all of the previous government holdover workers, that would have solved a lot of problems, so I do agree with you there .

Trump has made the US the laughing stock of the world and it will linger for many years to come.

We were a laughing stock from the very beginning, most Americans don’t care, really!

They all know where the money is and keep coming back

If one elects a clown to run a nation, one gets a clown.

Why do you think so many of us weren’t happy for 8 years.

Is the WH doing anything constructive other than putting out spot fires started by the Clown?

Speaking of clowns, I wonder when the Democrat party will come up with policies that will help their constituents. Been in power since January and still nothing legislatively through Congress. For them, very bad, for Trump, very, very good.

Your country was built by immigrants.

So were a lot of European cities and kingdoms

Your President is from immigrant stock. His wife is.

But a legal US citizen, both of them.

Interesting that you don't see them as strengthening the US.

We want legal immigrants to come, that has never changed.

So were a lot of European cities and kingdoms

Non-sequitur. Explain relevance to this topic.

But a legal US citizen, both of them.

As are the 4 Congresswomen.

We want legal immigrants to come, that has never changed.

I suppose then, you are in favor of chain migration, seeing as how Melania's parents managed to do so.

People who believe in social justice, human rights, a clean environment, and affordable education and healthcare clearly hate America.

These fine upstanding high schoolers should feel proud to be booing.

I can't help but chuckle whenever the magic name "Trump" appears in a JT headline. It is the assurance of a good day, a day filled with humour and tears. The tears of those who cannot contain their frustration and simply just HAVE to vent their feelings over what they are reading.

Trump is a master communicator. He realizes that the mainstream media (which tilts left about 90% of the time) cannot be trusted to accurately deliver his messages. So, he delivers them himself in a bombastic New York way that is sure to get people hopping with tiny-fisted rage. This speech is just case in point.

As for whether or not immigrants are a benefit to a country, I would say a qualified "yes". Those immigrants who care enough and are dedicated enough to apply legally, go through the correct procedures, and wait patiently are more than welcome. Those who show lack of patience and disrespect for the laws of the country they are attempting to enter are another story.

As are the 4 Congresswomen.

Ok...

I suppose then, you are in favor of chain migration

No, only with the exception of parents and their kids, maybe grandparents, everyone else, absolutely not.

No, only with the exception of parents and their kids, maybe grandparents, everyone else, absolutely not.

That's pretty much an entire family.

You're in favor of chain migration. End of.

I can't help but chuckle whenever the magic name "Trump" appears in a JT headline. It is the assurance of a good day, a day filled with humour and tears. The tears of those who cannot contain their frustration and simply just HAVE to vent their feelings over what they are reading.

You mean the TDS crowd? I am not sure there is much individual thinking involved, it is more about staying in their CNN bubble world and echo what their bubble friends are saying. It is a very human trait not wanting to be an outsider, but seeing how over the top often plainly stupid the corporate media propaganda is, it also makes me sad.

That's pretty much an entire family.

As long as it doesn’t involve aunts, uncles, cousins etc. I’m good with it.

Mr. Noidall: Yes, because we want them to enter the country the legal way where they will have all the benefits of a citizen. You want them to enter illegally, which means crossing dangerous rivers and terrain, working under the table, not being eligible to the entitlements of a citizen.

Fascinating, but there’s still this:

https://www.people-press.org/2017/10/05/4-race-immigration-and-discrimination/

"Overall, 84% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say immigrants do more to strengthen than burden the country. Republicans are split in their views of the contributions of immigrants: 44% say immigrants do more to burden the country, while about as many (42%) say they do more to strengthen the country."

I don’t think your party supports immigrants more.

Don the Con said a lot of lies during this event. That is why he doesn't like the media because they keep track and report his lies. Why is this lie more important?

He also said that India asked him to mediate a peace deal with Pakistan.

India Calls Out Trump Lie That He Was Asked To Mediate Kashmir Conflict

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-kashmir-india-pakistan-imran-khan-narendra-modi-013622555.html

LOL!

"Overall, 84% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say immigrants do more to strengthen than burden the country.

Legal immigrants do.

Republicans are split in their views of the contributions of immigrants: 44% say immigrants do more to burden the country, while about as many (42%) say they do more to strengthen the country."

I’m sorry, no Republican thinks like that except for “illegals and immigration.” Nice try.

I don’t think your party supports immigrants more.

That’s because you’re reading and watching too much into the liberal progressive open borders cabal.

You realize your country was literally created through immigration, right?

The difference between the immigrants of the late 18th through early 20th century and today's immigrants is that those early immigrants wanted to be Americans and they entered the U.S. with proper immigration documents. They wanted to assimilate into the American culture and be considered Americans They even anglocized their names and insisted their children speak English. They were proud to live in America and be considered Americans.

Not so with today's immigrants. They don't care that they enter the country illegally or even bother to learn our laws and customs. They don't care to be identified as Americans. They come to the U.S. for the entitlement benefits. They demand the U.S. to accommodate and adjust to THEIR culture and heritage. And the Democrats will happily cater to them.

Look, I grew up and used to live In Los Angeles, California, specifically in East Los Angeles where Spanish is widely spoken, business signs in Spanish, and Latin American food, music and culture dominates the city. Wherever I traveled in Latin America, I continually had that odd feeling of deja-vu and no wonder! Southern California has already become a third world country. I've also traveled through Arizona, New Mexico and Texas and noticed the same trend. But when I can and all my obligations are fulfilled, I will move out of California. The question is what state hasn't become a "third world country."

Trump is trying to prevent the rest of the U.S. from becoming the "United States of Latin America."

The difference between the immigrants of the late 18th through early 20th century and today's immigrants is that those early immigrants wanted to be Americans and they entered the U.S. with proper immigration documents. They wanted to assimilate into the American culture and be considered Americans They even anglocized their names and insisted their children speak English. They were proud to live in America and be considered Americans.

Not so with today's immigrants.

Yes, because all immigrants are the same and none of them want to be Americans. This monolithic group, Immigrants, who are alll exactly the same and hate American, right bro?

I’m sorry, no Republican thinks like that except for “illegals and immigration.” Nice try.

They do. You do. Tucker Carlson said that all immigration - including legal immigration - makes the US "dirty". You agreed with him.

That’s because you’re reading and watching too much into the liberal progressive open borders cabal.

You literally were given the poll results, which had links to the data and methodology. I'm sure someone can read it for you.

Actually Stranger, it is most often the left that tries to confuse the issue by simply referring to "immigrants" as a monolithic group. They fail to distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal aliens, thereby avoiding many inconvenient truths about the latter group. The former group are I believe largely unchanged from those who helped build the US in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

When you begin your relationship with a country by breaking its laws, it doesn't make for a good relationship in the long term. Rather, it shows a marked lack of respect and gratitude.

I get it. I mean, as someone who isn’t Bolivian, or even “Bolivian” for that matter, you did the right thing by shutting the hell up. Just like “Americans” need to shut the hell up and think that real Americans care about how they want to make America great.

I see my point was completely ignored and twisted. Typical liberal attitude.

So It's okay for non-U.S. citizens (as in Latin America or Middle East or Asia) to be proud of their country and praise its government and shuts down anyone who criticizes their country.....and they're NOT CONSIDERED RACISTS.

But when Trump (and like minded supporters) displays pride for the U.S. and proclaims "Make America Great Again" and denounces anyone (like the "Gang of Four") who is clearly anti U.S. and against its government, laws and traditions, they (Trump, et al) are considered RACISTS. What a double standard the liberals have.

Not so with today's immigrants. They don't care that they enter the country illegally or even bother to learn our laws and customs. They don't care to be identified as Americans. They come to the U.S. for the entitlement benefits. They demand the U.S. to accommodate and adjust to THEIR culture and heritage. And the Democrats will happily cater to them.

Yeah, I loved the way immigrants of days past adjusted to the country by spreading small-pox and waging war on the inhabitants of the country.

And wasn't it so great, back in the day, when you accommodated the ungrateful blacks by releasing them from slavery into peonage, segregation and second class status.

Look, I grew up and used to live In Los Angeles, California, specifically in East Los Angeles where Spanish is widely spoken, business signs in Spanish, and Latin American food, music and culture dominates the city. Wherever I traveled in Latin America, I continually had that odd feeling of deja-vu and no wonder! 

Travel broadens the mind, innit.

 who is clearly anti U.S. and against its government, laws and traditions,

Speaking out against and criticising the Govt and policies is not anti-American.

That would mean that all those who spoke out and criticised the Obama administration were anti-American.

they (Trump, et al) are considered RACISTS.

Trump et al, ARE racists. That's beyond any doubt, now. Beforehand, Trumpists could pretend that Birtherism, the Central Park 5 commentary, the not renting to black people, the attempted Muslim ban, the Mexican heritage judge, the comments about Mexicans etc ... they could pretend it wasn't racist.

They could pretend that the nazis marching were "fine people" according to their leader.

But the mask has well and truly slipped.

The difference between the immigrants of the late 18th through early 20th century and today's immigrants is that those early immigrants wanted to be Americans and they entered the U.S. with proper immigration documents. 

Like the President's grandfather and current wife (The first lady violated the terms of her US tourist visa by illegally working as a model)?

Donald Trump’s grandfather was an illegal migrant and ‘Trojan horse’

https://theconversation.com/donald-trumps-grandfather-was-an-illegal-migrant-and-trojan-horse-54749

Melania Trump would have been priority for deportation under new immigration rules

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/melania-trump-first-lady-deportation-priority-donald-immigration-rules-modelling-work-visa-us-a7597221.html

The first lady is alleged to have violated the terms of her US tourist visa by illegally working as a model

Not so with today's immigrants. They don't care that they enter the country illegally or even bother to learn our laws and customs. They don't care to be identified as Americans. They come to the U.S. for the entitlement benefits. They demand the U.S. to accommodate and adjust to THEIR culture and heritage. And the Democrats will happily cater to them.

Isn't it just amazing - Trumpers sit there all deer-eyed, and say "what do you mean we're racists, we like legal immigrants"...

Then they pop off with some hate-filled "THEIR" rhetoric like above....

I guess they just follow the template laid down by their boss...

“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p___. You can do anything.”

Trump: "I'm not a pervert".....

I’m not reading all these comments.

I saw today that Talib tweeted few years ago that Trump should be “deported” but that’s cool, right

They do. You do.

They don’t and I don’t.

Tucker Carlson said that all immigration - including legal immigration - makes the US "dirty". You agreed with him.

Taken out of context. We should have a merit based immigration system because some people don’t deserve to be in this country, criminals, rapists, etc..

You literally were given the poll results,

If there’s one thing that I have learned is not to go by all polls, because they are often so, so wrong, now to mention lot of them are skewed, not an equal amount of conservatives vs liberals, single, married, housewives, single mothers, elderly etc.

The difference between the immigrants of the late 18th through early 20th century and today's immigrants is that those early immigrants wanted to be Americans and they entered the U.S. with proper immigration documents. They wanted to assimilate into the American culture and be considered Americans They even anglocized their names and insisted their children speak English. They were proud to live in America and be considered Americans.

I can't decide if this makes me feel sad, angry or insulted.

I came to Japan in the late 20th century, never wanted to 'be' Japanese, entered Japan with a 'special' visa that allowed me to study but not work and expected me to go away after three years. As it happened funds were low and I did do a bit of English conversation teaching on the quiet - strictly against the law, but the people I taught (Japanese citizens all) were grateful for the help I gave them. I never thought of Japanising my name (though it got partly Japanised when I married, an act that also changed my visa status). My kids speak Japanese, but I also insisted they speak English, and we speak it together in public. I've added two fine, upstanding young adults to the Japanese population. I maintain my UK cultural values, cuisine, passport, etc., in addition to enjoying Japanese culture. I feel privileged and happy to live in Japan, not 'proud'.

As an immigrant, do I make Japan 'dirty'?

Hell no.

What's the difference between me here and immigrants in the US?

East Los Angeles where Spanish is widely spoken, business signs in Spanish, and Latin American food, music and culture dominates the city

Sounds like you think that's a bad thing. What's wrong with Spanish language, or tasty cuisine? Music to suit all tastes, and a rich and varied culture?

Yeah, I loved the way immigrants of days past adjusted to the country by spreading small-pox and waging war on the inhabitants of the country. 

What? Huh?

And wasn't it so great, back in the day, when you accommodated the ungrateful blacks by releasing them from slavery into peonage, segregation and second class status. 

Yes and now we made amends and you had for eight horrible years the first Black President, only in America. That is what makes us great.

> Travel broadens the mind, innit.

And yet Democrats seem to love the confined spaces of D.C., they need to get out more.

Yes and now we made amends and you had for eight horrible years the first Black President,

LOL.

Electing a centerist Democrat (who happened to be black) is hardly making amends.

only in America. That is what makes us great.

Only in America, what? Many countries have black or mixed race leaders. It's normal.

And yet Democrats seem to love the confined spaces of D.C., they need to get out more.

What on earth are you talking about?

Yes and now we made amends and you had for eight horrible years the first Black President, only in America. That is what makes us great.

As if on cue, another Trumper inserts foot into mouth - why is it they can't mention President Obama without referring to his race?

Yes, we know the answer to that...yet they continue to cry and whine "we're not racists"....

The hate-filled comments in this thread by Trumpers make it very clear what they are....

Taken out of context.

No it wasn't.

If there’s one thing that I have learned is not to go by all polls, because they are often so, so wrong, now to mention lot of them are skewed, not an equal amount of conservatives vs liberals, single, married, housewives, single mothers, elderly etc.

This is an opinion poll. People can't get their own opinion "wrong".

If you have a problem with the poll's methodology, tell us what it is. It's all right there for you to rea... oh, right.

Speaking out against and criticising the Govt and policies is not anti-American.

Ok, so when conservatives attack the squad (since they are part of government) it's ok, right?

Trump et al, ARE racists.

I’m not, don’t know any Trump supporter that is, don’t like racists....now the Democrats....they have been using the race issue a crutch and leverage since 2009.

the Central Park 5 commentary

They weren’t innocent of beating the woman

not renting to black people,

Was never about the color of their skin. If you knew NYC like I did back in the 70’s you would understand. Color and race was never the issue.

the attempted Muslim ban,

8 Muslim countries out of 49 hardly a ban.

the Mexican heritage judge,

Ok, so flip it around. If a Black or Mexican person supports Trump or Republican is a trader, don’t you think that perceived notion is racist as well?

the comments about Mexicans etc ... they could pretend it wasn't racist. 

I have a question in all sincerity, sincerely and honestly, making fun of someone’s race, ethnicity or religion is never right and there is No excuse for it, knowing that, why is it ok for liberals be they White, Black or Hispanic discriminate against a conservative that’s White....or even Black and Hispanic....Uncle Tom, Coconut, sellout etc.

If you think racism should be condemned at its fundamental root, I agree with you, all of it should be condemned.

They could pretend that the nazis marching were "fine people" according to their leader.

He never, ever said that.

At first I thought nah... but actually yeah, several come to mind...

We got Hillary Clinton ( enough said ), we got Barack Obama ( enough said ), we got Adam Schiff, who STILL hasn't given us the evidence of Russian collusion that he's claimed he has, we got that condescending Kamala Harris who claims she's black though she's half Indian and looks more white than black plus she sent real black people to prison for smoking weed and supports AOC's Green New Deal, we got crazy Maxine Waters who has incited people to harass Trump supporters, we got It's Gotta Be 5 O'Clock Somewhere Nancy Pelosi, and Chucky Schumer who refuse to fund the wall that our beleaguered border patrol wants...

@bas4f Yes and now we made amends 

That may be the ugliest thing I've read on this site. Amends? Centuries of slavery, of abuse as cruel and hideous as anything seen anywhere in history, of denying people even the most basic rights just because of their heritage - and skin color - amended because of some legal changes that aren't even enforced in many areas? And who's this 'we' you keep referring to? I'm not part of the group that wants to see the country return to 1950s ugliness. (Not including music and art) . Not the Californians you wanted nuked by Trump's pal Kim. Own up to who's included in your 'we'.

Yes and now we made amends and you had for eight horrible years the first Black President,

> Only in America, what? Many countries have black or mixed race leaders. It's normal.

LOL! Africa is full of countries with Black leaders. Logic is failing you.

No it wasn't.

If there’s one thing that I have learned is not to go by all polls, because they are often so, so wrong, now to mention lot of them are skewed, not an equal amount of conservatives vs liberals, single, married, housewives, single mothers, elderly etc.

This is an opinion poll. People can't get their own opinion "wrong".

So who conducted, which demographics, how many conservatives vs liberals, what age group, which State etc.

Yeah, you can believe them, a lot of us don’t.

If you have a problem with the poll's methodology

Seems like a lot of people had problems with the polls in 2016. ROFL!

As if on cue, another Trumper inserts foot into mouth - why is it they can't mention President Obama without referring to his race?

Liberals keep reminding us about it, not us. We can see the man, we don’t care, his policies were a very different story.

Yes, we know the answer to that...yet they continue to cry and whine "we're not racists"....

The hate-filled comments in this thread by Trumpers make it very clear what they are....

How? Who? This is what drives me crazy about liberals! Where and who said anything negative about race? Specifically?

Sneezy; the most obvious flaw in the poll question is that it does not differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. The effort to conflate the two is insidious, and also more accepted on the left than the right. That would explain the results. As with most polls, questions can be adjusted to manipulate the answers.

The various polls on health care are another example. If you simply ask, "Do you support Medicare for all?" you can get widespread agreement. However if you ask "Do you support abolishing private health insurance and mandating Medicare for all?" the numbers are much lower.

Ok, so when conservatives attack the squad (since they are part of government) it's ok, right?

Of course. They should debate the policies which they oppose but for some reason, they question allegiance, whether they are actual American, tell them to go back to where they come from and make up lies like the "garbage" comment.

I’m not, don’t know any Trump supporter that is, don’t like racists....now the Democrats....they have been using the race issue a crutch and leverage since 2009.

What did you say about getting out more? Actually, scratch that, unfair, as you live in Japan. Perhaps you should pay closer to attention to what's going on in US politics at the moment.

They weren’t innocent of beating the woman

They were exonerated and yet Trump still doubles down on them. Why is that?

Was never about the color of their skin. If you knew NYC like I did back in the 70’s you would understand.

It was all about color and the inherent racism amongst the elite. Or at least, those who didn't want black people as their neighbors.

why is it ok for liberals be they White, Black or Hispanic discriminate against a conservative that’s White....or even Black and Hispanic....Uncle Tom, Coconut, sellout etc.

Strawman. Who here is using such terms?

He never, ever said that.

He described the white supremacists as "very fine people" and then pretended it was meant about those who protested about the removal of monuments.

UknownPlayer having a normal one.

He's the incumbent President and all he's doing is negative campaigning and making insinuations.

Do something to help ordinary people!

@unknownplayer America can provide opportunities 

Of course it's possible. But once again I'll refer to PEW:

The analysis makes it clear that children born into different economic circumstances can expect very distinct economic futures. The degree to which family advantage is transmitted suggests that opportunities for economic success are very unequally distributed. 

http://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/assets/2015/07/fsm-irs-report_artfinal.pdf

The reality is more individuals are left behind than achieve success. For a range of reasons.

Sneezy; the most obvious flaw in the poll question is that it does not differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. 

You're right, it doesn't say anything about illegal aliens. So we can assume it's only about legal immigrants.

So who conducted, which demographics, how many conservatives vs liberals, what age group, which State etc.

As I said, all that information is available to you. Maybe get one of your kids to read it to you?

As if on cue, another Trumper inserts foot into mouth - why is it they can't mention President Obama without referring to his race?

Liberals keep reminding us about it, not us. We can see the man, we don’t care, his policies were a very different story.

Your words are below - no Liberal posted them...you did...

*Yes and now we made amends and you had for eight horrible years the first Black President, only in America. That is what makes us great.*

You could have easily said "President Obama", but you chose to put "first Black President" and say in the same sentence "eight horrible years" - clearly equating his race with your view. My friend, that's classic racism.

Yes, we know the answer to that...yet they continue to cry and whine "we're not racists"....

The hate-filled comments in this thread by Trumpers make it very clear what they are....

How? Who? This is what drives me crazy about liberals! Where and who said anything negative about race? Specifically?

This whole thread is filled with hate-filled, racist comments by Trumpers...to include you comment about the "first Black President"...but I doubt if you'll recognize it...

The good news for the Trump haters is that they only have to endure him as president for five and a half more years.