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Trump says he does not have 'racist bone' in his body

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He accused his four outspoken critics of "spewing some of the most vile, hateful and disgusting things ever said by a politician" 

Donny is self-aware enough to project. Too funny when he denigrates others for the exact same things he does. What an absolute moron. Thanks, deplorables.

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Looks like the GOP is going all in with racism. I can't say that I blame them. They backed themselves into a corner when they pushed away women, minorities, and college educated people. Not much else left except uneducated white males.

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the comments were not racist.

Pelosi was trying to distance herself from these 4. They in return called HER racist and her chief of staff tweeted racist comments.

Now Pelosi has no choice after Trumps comments but to support the 4 and bring them back as the faces of the Dem party.

Bonus is that AOC now has to defend any horrible comment Omar makes as they are now a “group”.

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About half of republican voters found in Trump someone who wasn’t afraid to appeal to racist sentiment loudly and bluntly. It's not that ugly blatant racism was something that hadn’t occurred to the country club types -- Those guys just thought they couldn't get away with something like this in the 21st century.

Normally they would have been right: it would have lost them as many votes among educated whites as it won them among working-class whites.

But after eight years of a black president in the White House, Trump could get away with it. Only by a hair, and only with plenty of other help, but he did get away with it, losing 10 points of support among college-educated whites but gaining 14 points among working-class whites.

The entire Republican Party is now all-in on this strategy. Trump goes full racist and nary a peep from anyone.

The party that pretended and preened about its tough foreign policy, it individual responsibility and its family values is now just an unhappy marriage between bigots and big money, neither of which give a crap about morals, American values, American security or the Constution. The former just want no more brown people and for the current one to keep their place, and the latter want to cut taxes, again.

Deplorable.

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Trump doubles down and claims that his racist tweets aren't racist. Bit like Rudy's "truth isn't truth" from last year.

Or, as Orwell put it - “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

I still believe there were genuine working class or marginalized voters who believed that Trump would offer them something different from the usual merry-go-round. That he might not engage in lies, nepotism and tax breaks for the rich.

Then there were those who knew exactly what they were voting for - as Trump's racism has been on show for years. They still try to pretend that he's not a racist. But they know.

Still, you have to hand it to Trump and his disciples. It's a brilliant (and cynical) deflection from the concentration camps and the sordid Epstein stories.

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No, that would be they just want to fight. We includes the person speaking and any associated group (the Dems)

We want to just fight," which he apparently aimed at Republicans

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Whatever you call it... telling a bunch of mixed raced elected officials to "go back to where you came from" is just wrong and not called for.... especially by a sitting President. In any other context it could be called "racist", and it probably should be called that here. The only reason Trump has not been impeached by now is because he supports a bigger budget for the military and his support for Israel.

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He didn't say anything racist. Honestly, he could cure cancer single-handed right now, and the left would find fault with him in some contrived way or another. Also, a bit rich for someone from Somalia(!) to be criticizing her adopted country!

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the comments were not racist.

They were the epitome of racist language. Being told to go back to your country/the country you came from is actual racism.

Trumpists (not necessarily Trump voters but those core voters who support him no matter what) can't bring themselves to condemn the man.

Only a matter of time before he drops the n-word and Trumpists try to rationalize and defend it.

He could bring back Jim Crow and Trumpists would be saying that maybe it's a good idea because, you know, people don't really get on.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/16/go-back-country-trump-racist-tweet-hit-nerve-americans

Pelosi was trying to distance herself from these 4. They in return called HER racist and her chief of staff tweeted racist comments.

Pelosi is an idiot as well and one of the old guard who really need to call it a day. Their sitting on the fence politics and sucking up to big business is as bad as the Republicans.

In the meantime, Trump has shown his true colors and finally, we all know what MAGA really means.

The gloves are off. The mask has slipped.

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plus the Speaker of the House broke 2 rules of Congress today, inappropriate comments and leaving the floor while they were being reviewed.

had to be saved by a partisan vote from having her comments officially removed from the record.

all for people who called her a racist last week, which allowed Trump to defend her. Dems are imploding.

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He didn't say anything racist.

Yes, he did. He has a long history of racism and this was the clearest indication yet that he believes you have to be white to be American.

Honestly, he could cure cancer single-handed right now, and the left would find fault with him in some contrived way or another.

The left? Racism transcends partisanship. Everyone should be condemning it.

Also, a bit rich for someone from Somalia(!) to be criticizing her adopted country!

Why? She's an American citizen. Criticism of one's country is healthy and democratic. I've lived in several countries including my original place of birth and I don't agree with the Govts in many cases. It's my right to speak out and say so. Doesn't mean I don't like where I live.

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plus the Speaker of the House broke 2 rules of Congress today, inappropriate comments and leaving the floor while they were being reviewed.

Trump cultists are terrified to acknowledge his racism and get all upset that Pelosi called it what it is.

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these 4. They in return called HER racist and her chief of staff tweeted racist comments.

Now Pelosi has no choice after Trumps comments but to support the 4 and bring them back as the faces of the Dem party.

Bonus is that AOC now has to defend any horrible comment Omar makes as they are now a “group”.

Lol None of this has anything to do with rather his comments were racist or not. You're trying to justify Donny's racist comments.

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I still think denying tweeting it in the first place is an option. He pulled that stunt before and his supporters didn’t have a problem with it.

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"They" keep defending deTrump no matter what!

Deny the facts, just see what you want to see and if anyone has a different opinion tell 'em to "get out of here".

Now, that's what I call an "oh so great (NOT) presidency"!

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The Trump comments weren’t racist. they served the strategic purpose of preventing Pelosi from distancing herself and the Dem party from their 4 problem children. Which was her plan, obviously until this. I’m glad to see Dems are all one big happy squad again.

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The Trump comments weren’t racist. they served the strategic purpose of preventing Pelosi from distancing herself and the Dem party from their 4 problem children. Which was her plan, obviously until this. I’m glad to see Dems are all one big happy squad again.

Just because you think they serve a strategic purpose doesn't magically make them not racist.

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The Trump comments weren’t racist. they served the strategic purpose of preventing Pelosi from distancing herself and the Dem party from their 4 problem children. Which was her plan, obviously until this. I’m glad to see Dems are all one big happy squad again.

So, you can't bring yourself to admit that his comments were racist?

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The comments by Trump were not racist. The media made the connection. Also, Trump said in the tweet for the people who hate America to go and then come back. Did you hear that--COME BACK! In other words, he's saying to the folks screaming that America is a terrible country and that they have all the answers--maybe they should implement their genius to those countries and US districts and show the us all how to do it. He was clearly being sarcastic, not racist. We are witnessing the crumbling of democracy: a situation in which people part of the sacred groups--blacks, women, muslims, lgbtq--are immune to criticism all because of history. Members of these groups are free to spew whatever stupidity and bigotry they like, and if if anyone dare call them on it, they in turn will be labeled the sexist, racist, nazi. The fact that people can't see what is as clear as day is stunning.

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Maybe his bones aren't racist.

It's just his mind, his heart, his soul, and every thought that runs through his head.

Donald Trump is as racist as they come. Just because he doesn't use the 'n-word' or other comments like that doesn't change the fact that he's racist. That his son-in-law is Jewish has nothing to do with him being racist or not.

He. Is. Racist.

End of story. And yes, regardless of what he does after that point, he is not fit to be President of the United States.

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During the presidential campaign in 2016, Trump's main rhetoric was that America is being raped, America is a dumping ground, America is a loser, America is not great, America is the laughing stock of the world, and so on. He said all that, and then said - vote for me, i am the only one that can change America and make it Great again. So, isn't that what these congresswomen are saying now? America is not great, vote for me and i will make it great. By Trump's own logic, he shouldn't have complained, but leave, since he obviously thought America is not great, and had a problem with the way the country is being run. He accuses Omar and her criticism of Israel taking advantage of America as "anti-Semitic", but what about his criticism of China taking advantage of America? Isn't his criticism of China "anti-Chinese"? Trump also criticizes Japan, Europe and others for taking advantage of America. So, again, by his own logic, Trump is anti-Japanese, anti-Chinese, anti-European, and anti-Mexican.

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Trump says he does not have 'racist bone' in his body

Only the hardest core Trump follower (plus those backing bannon and his efforts to keep race-based fires burning globally) can believe a single word Trump says on this or any subject for that matter.

There's more than enough evidence for anyone with even the slightest bit of objectivity to use the 'duck test' and come to the conclusion Trump's - not what he's claiming.

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Trump says he does not have 'racist bone' in his body

Of course he doesn't - it's all in his brain....

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"strongly condemns President Donald Trump's racist comments that have legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color."

And here is the democratic trick. First, poc was term that originally meant black. It's a term from the 18th century and before to degrade black folks. The only time it was used in a non-derogatory form was when the NCAA used it in their late 18th-early 19th century charter. Then it was used in jim crow to designate public facilities for whites and those for blacks. Now, it's been co-opted as an umbrella term to encompass the sacred groups and shield them from criticism. Nothing could be more racist than the term people of color.

Further, the dems always say things like: increased fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color.

The dems do not speak for and represent every new American or so-called person of color. The media will never report or showcase "people of color" who despise the squad and support Trump. This is because they want to continue the story that only white supremacist support Trump--which is so far from the truth as the squad is to the left.

This style of reporting, the press conference of the squad solidify in my mind that dems are content with putting everyone into 2 groups: white people and people of color; i.e., oppressor and oppressed. For the oppressed, their power and virtue is in their victimhood.

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To label Donald Trump racist is plainly incorrect.

How can he be?

His wife is from Slovenia and his daughter is married to a Jew!

That doesn’t seem very racist to me!

However, plain facts are not apparent to many.

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To label Donald Trump racist is plainly incorrect.

How can he be?

His wife is from Slovenia and his daughter is married to a Jew!

That doesn’t seem very racist to me!

However, plain facts are not apparent to many.

Neither of which have anything to do with Donald Trump's clear racism. First off, one can be racist against some groups and not others. When I lived in the United States, I knew people who were racist against blacks, but not against Latinos, and vice versa. I've know people who were only racist against Native Americans, or Asians, etc.

So the 'flavor' of Donald Trump's racism isn't at issue. It's the fact that he is racist. Plain and simple.

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He was clearly being sarcastic, not racist.

Yeah, the call for a travel ban on Muslims, the Mexicans are rapists comments, the sh*hole countries comments, the Haitians have AIDS remarks, the not renting to black tenants, the calls for the innocent Central Park 5 to be executed, the "fine people" clanger... all sarcasm.

The racist media made the connection. 

This is known as gaslighting. A common tactic used by Trump supporters. Everyone else is a racist apart from PotUS.

He said the senators should "go back" to where they came from.

That's racism. Pure and simple.

And we now can see that his supporters enable that racism by excusing it, obfuscating it, pretending it's not what it is.

Which makes them racist as well. Call it out for what it is.

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I assume here you mean NAACP, not the NCAA, which was founded in 1910. BTW, the NAACP wasn't founded in the 18th or 19th centuries, but in 1909.

Yes, I meant NAACP. It was started before the 20th, but didn't get it's official charter until the 20th. Nevertheless, poc is a racist and divisive. MLK would totally be against it--especially it's current usage since it gives merit to someone's skin color and their character.

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Trump says he does not have 'racist bone' in his body

Nah, just a racist mouth and brain. Too bad his bones aren’t in charge.

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To label Donald Trump racist is plainly incorrect.

How can he be?

His wife is from Slovenia and his daughter is married to a Jew!

That doesn’t seem very racist to me!

Racists don't operate in a logical world. There are people who love the Japanese but hate black people. There are people married to Jews but still manage to be anti-Semitic. The great (but racist) horror writer HP Lovecraft, for example.

There were abolitionists in Britain who were against slavery but still believed they were superior to black people.

Racism is irrational.

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@kurispu His wife is from Slovenia and his daughter is married to a Jew!That doesn’t seem very racist to me!

Are you being sarcastic? From what I know, Slovenians aren't a separate 'race'. And from what I've read there have always been disagreements as to whether Jewish people constitute a separate 'race'. Regardless, your claim seems based on inductive reasoning, long used by 'people who discriminate' to defend their biases.

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and not their character. I'm typing on an erratic train.

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"He didn't say anything racist. "

This makes me feel disgusted to the core of my being.

This makes me sick to my stomach: "To label Donald Trump racist is plainly incorrect. How can he be?

His wife is from Slovenia and his daughter is married to a Jew!" That is like saying we have black friends, we can't possibly say anything bad or do no harm. This type of mentality is disgusting.

I want to ignore all this. Everything inside screams to just ignore it and become apathetic to it. But I am too angry and disgusted by the MASSIVE amounts of terrible horrible people in this world that think comments like this are okay.

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President Trump says if you’re not happy here, you should leave. Clearly he’s not a happy camper. Maybe he should follow his own advice.

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Racists don't operate in a logical world

Racism is looking at and judging people on the color of their skin and not on the content of their character. Putting people into either the white group or the poc group is by default racist.

Tell me then, if poc congresspeople are off limits from criticism of their smooth-brained ideas simply because they are poc (racist in it self) how then can democracy work?

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The comments by Trump were not racist. 

I wonder why Trump never told Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer to "go back" to their home countries. Hmmm.

I wonder why Trump never asked Hillary Clinton for her birth certificate or grades, but did for Obama. Hmmm.

On another point. This crap about "love it or leave" it was already old in the 1960s. Finding fault with your home country is everyone's right. Nobody asked Donald Trump to leave when he wrote his "Crippled America" book or gave his "American carnage" inauguration speech.

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Pot calling the kettle black. Especially coming from a man who married a woman from Eastern Europe and somehow was able to get her foreign parents green cards...

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@MrNoidall,

Exactly right.

Meanwhile, one of "the squad" just this weekend stated that "black"and "brown"people are not wanted in the democratic party unless they conform to her standard of political thought.

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I'm upset at Trump for this tweet just for one reason: last weekend, the dems were cannibalizing each other. What more could any literate, sane American ask for? nothing! It was Christmas in July. What Trump did was to bring Nancy back to the aid of her children. Let's hope her motherly instincts are only temporary.

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Trump's history from the time when he was a New York landlord, to casino owner to becoming president shows different. What he said about Mexicans, and then Muslims and then these women congress women.

Unlike First Lady Melania, three of the four women where born in America the fourth went to America when she was 10.

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Tell me then, if poc congresspeople are off limits from criticism of their smooth-brained ideas simply because they are poc (racist in it self) how then can democracy work?

You see, this is the point, one that many Trumpists cannot fathom.

You can disagree with someone's ideas without being racist. You can disagree with any policy, and argue those policies without resorting to either racism or any of the other forms of 'argument' that Trump or his followers often engage in.

You don't have to call a policy 'communist' or 'socialist' or any of the buzzwords that they try to smear every policy with.

It's called being an adult.

So no, the policy ideas of AOC and 'The Squad' are not off-limits. Saying they need to go back to where they came from, insinuating that they aren't Americans, or that they hold any sort of divided loyalty to upholding the US Constitution... that's flat out racist.

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Meanwhile, one of "the squad" just this weekend stated that "black"and "brown"people are not wanted in the democratic party unless they conform to her standard of political thought.

This is because they want to keep blacks in victim mode--looking in the past to place blame instead of looking to the future for solutions. The greatest crime against blacks was not slavery, it was the robbery of their self agency and determination. The dems want to keep minorities in victim mode while they position themselves as their saviors. That's why it's been fifty years since the civil rights movement and when LBJ tricked them to vote for democrats and the talking points are the same. Institutional racism is rampant, blacks can't get ahead in America, we're still reeling from slavery, white people are bad, etc. This will continue forever if the dems have any say. It's like a cop saying he wants to eradicate crime. Why? so you can be out of a job. Once blacks stop believing they are eternal victims, what do the dems really have to offer? absolutely nothing!

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You see, this is the point, one that many Trumpists cannot fathom.

You can disagree with someone's ideas without being racist.

Haha! Dems play the race card at every play. Come off it.

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"I mean, they're getting actually very sick, where people are getting sick, where the people living there living in hell, too. Although some of them have mental problems where they don't even know they're living that way. In fact, perhaps they like living that way."

--Donald J. Trump

I think if Trump hates America so much he should go back to Germany and Scotland.

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Haha! Dems play the race card at every play.

Right... keep playing that old straw.

But it doesn't change a very simple fact.

Donald Trump is as racist as Nathan Bedford Forrest.

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Dumb comment by a dumb president. How can bones be racist, we are all the same on that, blood too. The difference is skin pigment. Its the mind which becomes corrupt, poisoned and conditioned to become racist. We are not born racists. Usually we reject those we fear or don't understand like the four congress women or believe white people are superior to all others.

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Donald Trump is as racist as Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Still, I and many other "pocs" will vote for him.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!"

Nothing racist about this, and for those of us who actually live here in Japan, we've all said this to some gaijin who do nothing but complain about Japan and the way of life here!

Trump has helped many minorities in his time. It's only the left who keep using the word 'racist'!

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Trump is an evil genius helping the democratic party self implode.

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He didn't say anything racist. "

This makes me feel disgusted to the core of my being.

Of course it does. You're a liberal and probably need a safe place to hide from the bad words.

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It's highly doubtful that Trump is the first Republican president to hold such racist thoughts, but he's probably the first one to share and express such views so openly.

Very un-presidential.

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probably need a safe place to hide from the bad words.

LOL. It's not 'liberals' who constantly claim to be the most-bullied person in the world. That would be the racist in the White House.

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LOL. It's not 'liberals' who constantly claim to be the most-bullied person in the world. That would be the racist in the White House.

Cf: Members of these groups are free to spew whatever stupidity and bigotry they like, and if if anyone dare call them on it, they in turn will be labeled the sexist, racist, nazi.

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Tell me then, if poc congresspeople are off limits from criticism of their smooth-brained ideas simply because they are poc (racist in it self) how then can democracy work?

Nobody is off limits from criticism.

However, here's the difference that Trump cultists don't understand - criticism should not have to invoke racism.

Trump was well within his rights to criticize Obama. But he used the birther racism to do so.

When will the MAGAs stop defending this racist conman?

How far will it go?

Will people being beaten up or killed be the final straw before they acknowledge that Trump is a racist and his rhetoric has consequences?

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Yes your country is not a “race”. So telling someone go back your county, a place, has no racial component.

If you don’t like where you are, and are unwilling to do anything other than complain, return to where you think it’s better. These people complaining about the government yet don’t accept that they ARE the government now.

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It's amazing that dems can pass a law condemning tweets that hurt their feelings in a matter of hours, but can't seem to do squat when it comes to the betterment of the country.

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"He was stating his ideological belief that American citizenship is fundamentally racial, that only white people can truly be citizens, and that people of color, immigrants in pHe was stating his ideological belief that American citizenship is fundamentally racial, that only white people can truly be citizens, and that people of color, immigrants in particular, are only conditionally American."

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He is a bigot, not a racist. Its embarrassing I have to repeat this simple fact so many times. Do people not know what words mean anymore? Are anti-Trumpers now on the same level as Trumpsters? Please learn. He is a cultural and nationalist bigot. Just stop saying "racist" cause its idiotic.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

It seems the US is now at Stage 7:

https://i.redd.it/ta8blo2jx2a31.jpg

I think if Trump hates America so much he should go back to Germany and Scotland.

They hate his guts in Scotland, there's no way he could ever live there. Well, maybe in a croft on some otherwise uninhabited distant isle in the far west but even that's pushing it.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/hilarywardle/this-is-why-lots-of-scottish-people-hate-trump

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Toasted Heretic,

and maybe even then they won't change their attitude. History has proven this.

I only hope that history will not repeat itself!

Quoting Martin Niemoeller:

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

Never let something like this happen again!

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Members of these (minority) groups are free to spew whatever stupidity and bigotry they like, and if if anyone dare call them on it, they in turn will be labeled the sexist, racist, nazi.

This is so true! You can't even ask questions to learn or try to understand. You must simply agree with whatever rhetoric they vomit and accept it to be absolute truth. There is no logic - only how you feel. Sorry - how the minority people feel. (Others are not allowed to have feelings, opinions, etc.)

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

The new truth. Racism is not racism.

Sometimes, it feels like arguing with Trumpists and apologists for racism is akin to shaking your fist at the sky.

At least we know who they are and what they stand for now. Always good to know your enemy.

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Trump is a bigot but he is also racist. He has all his bases covered.

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I still don't get why Trump fans want to create a class system. Sure, the want to think they are above minorities, but surely they understand their position amongst whites

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I still don't get why Trump fans want to create a class system. Sure, the want to think they are above minorities, but surely they understand their position amongst whites

What about the minority Trump fans? Surely they're not for white supremacy, right?

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God, it is truly sad that Congress can react so quickly to a Tweet but can't rouse itself to deal with actual issues the crisis of illegal immigration. A Tweet is little more than a fart transmitted through a keyboard.

Trump explicitly and repeatedly denounces neo Nazism and white supremacy, therefore he is racist. His opponents regularly use race as determining factors in human behavior, but are righteous. The mind reels…

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

I still don't get why Trump fans want to create a class system. 

Isn't the whole scheme of intersectionality a class system? A class system that says a black, lesbian, transgender woman is more virtuous than a cis-gendered white woman. But an lgbtq muslim male is even more virtuous. Of course, straight white males are at the bottom. Nothing says classism like modern left ideology.

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Yes your country is not a “race”. So telling someone go back your county, a place, has no racial component.

Even I would not go that far. There is a racial component because of who he is directing it at. There is also a gender component. But they pale in comparison to the cultural and nationalist components. The problem is that racial and national components have overlap. Trying to separate them strictly is as foolish as trying to declare they amount to the same thing.

Take Colin Kaepernick for example. No doubt some people hate him because he is Black (or half if you will). But the main reason some people hate him is because they think he disrespects the flag. We here about his race way too much. His race is not the real issue...ie racism is not the issue. The issue is cretinish nationalism on the part of most of his detractors....such as....Donald Dump.

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Who is preventing you from having opinions?

You are.

At least we know who they are and what they stand for now. Always good to know your enemy.

This has "I'm going to get you fired" and violent antifa repercussions written all over it.

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the comments were not racist. 

Pelosi was trying to distance herself from these 4. They in return called HER racist and her chief of staff tweeted racist comments. 

Now Pelosi has no choice after Trumps comments but to support the 4 and bring them back as the faces of the Dem party. 

Bonus is that AOC now has to defend any horrible comment Omar makes as they are now a “group”.

Definitely his comments were not racist, now once again to leave it to the msm and liberals to make it all about race and why is that? Because they have absolutely nothing to run on. Both the fab 4 have terrible poll numbers and are extremely vulnerable to losing their seats, add to that the constant push for socialist policies and handing out free this and free that, robbing Paul to give to Peter and zero insight as to how to pay for all of this. Look, the President has the excellent opportunity to showcase how insane these peoples policies are and it boils down to this, do you want to live in a country where big government will issue in a barrage of destructive socialist policies and limitations on freedom or do you want less government capitalism and the ability to love your life as you wish. This is really what this President is fighting for and the fab 4 want to destroy all of that.

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Of course, straight white males are at the bottom.

And there's the mastery of Trump. He's able to convince uneducated white men that they are victims in this country.

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The comments by President Trump were not racist. What he did was to invoke a 1960s trope that could be found on car bumper stickers all across our country: "America. Love it or Leave it." Nothing racist about that either then or now.

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Omar IS conditionally American. The condition being that we graciously allowed her to be granted asylum in our country and later granted her citizenship and the opportunity to serve in our government.

She repays this by saying disgusting things about our country, its people and our government (which she takes no responsibility for being part of)!

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The left? Racism transcends partisanship. Everyone should be condemning it.

Exactly. There is racism in both parties. Many Republicans are guilty of hating minorities, and many Democrats are guilty of hating white people and Jewish people.

This is not healthy, people. When I was growing up we didn't talk so much about race. People had their opinions, but it wasn't something people got on stage and talked about unless they were flaming racists, from Duke to Farrakhan and more. Now, all people talk about is race. That would be fine if it were fixing problems that were once concealed. But it hasn't. If anything, it's made things worse by drawing lines in the sand. On top of that, for the past 15 years or so it's been socially acceptable to be anti-white. You don't think there will be a backlash? Just as if it were socially acceptable to be anti-Indian or any other race. Those people will get mad and blow up with anger one day.

Who didn't see this coming?

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Omar IS conditionally American.

Way extreme. That's pure bannon-ism, intended to fan fires and further bifurcate. But that's what Trump/bannon and their followers have long said they wanted.

In that case a 'conditional American' like Melania should not represent the US in any capacity. But come to think of it, she never has. She's only represented the trump brand.

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… it boils down to this, do you want to live in a country where big government will issue in a barrage of destructive socialist policies and limitations on freedom or do you want less government capitalism and the ability to love your life as you wish. This is really what this President is fighting for and the fab 4 want to destroy all of that.

This puts it very succinctly. Those who prefer the former are willing to use the race card and the gender card to advance their cause and shield themselves from criticism. That is what's happening.

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

I believe Trump's statement, simply because racism does not concentrate in the bones.

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Definitely his comments were not racist, now once again to leave it to the msm and liberals to make it all about race and why is that? Because they have absolutely nothing to run on. Both the fab 4 have terrible poll numbers and are extremely vulnerable to losing their seats, add to that the constant push for socialist policies and handing out free this and free that, robbing Paul to give to Peter and zero insight as to how to pay for all of this. Look, the President has the excellent opportunity to showcase how insane these peoples policies are and it boils down to this, do you want to live in a country where big government will issue in a barrage of destructive socialist policies and limitations on freedom or do you want less government capitalism and the ability to love your life as you wish. This is really what this President is fighting for and the fab 4 want to destroy all of that.

This is what Trump should have said...^^^

Instead he hoisted the race card. Not only it's a distraction, it makes him a liability (like Mrs Lam in Hong Kong - ad hominem but more extreme in Trump's case). I would be surprised if he doesn't loose support from his base, and from the electoral college. Dumb move, and it demonstrates he has ran out of ideas.

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Criticising the country you live in is a sign of democracy

Exactly! Trump AND his supporters are going to regret this entire saga because it's undemocratic, anti-freedom and therefore unpatriotic. Trump's best course of action now is to apologize (even if insincerely) so he can argue later that he's not racist, and that he apologized for construeing racial overtones in his debates.

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Blacklabel

Omar IS conditionally American.

And the other three American born congress women, are they too "conditionally American?"

Natural-born U.S. citizens may not have their citizenship revoked against their will, since birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

Grounds for Denaturalization (very rare)

Falsification or Concealment of Relevant Facts: You must be absolutely truthful when filling out paperwork and answering interview questions related to the naturalization application process. Even if the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) fails to recognize any lies or ommissions at first, the agency may file a denaturalization action against you after citizenship has been granted. Examples include failure to disclose criminal activities or lying about one's real name or identity.

Refusal to Testify Before Congress: You may not refuse to testify before a U.S. congressional committee whose job it is to investigate your alleged involvement in subversive acts, such as those intended to harm U.S. officials or overthrow the U.S. government. This requirement to testify in order to maintain citizenship status expires after 10 years.

Membership in Subversive Groups: Your citizenship may be revoked if the U.S. government can prove that you joined a subversive organization within five years of becoming a naturalized citizen. Membership in such organizations is considered a violation of the oath of U.S. allegiance. Examples include the Nazi Party and Al Qaeda.

Dishonorable Military Discharge: Since you may become a naturalized U.S. citizen by virtue of serving in the U.S. military, your citizenship may be revoked if you are dishonorably discharged before serving five years. Reasons for dishonorable discharge, which must follow a general court-martial, include desertion and sexual assault.

That also applies to First Lady Melania

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This is the usual Trumpist whine - how they are being oppressed, being silenced, not allowed say what they think.

It’s true, go on literally every social network site and remember almost all the CEOs of these companies are liberal. But now we see liberals crying foul that the courts are being packed with conservatives, so if you think conservatives shouldn’t whine, then I will submit to you liberals shouldn’t whine about the courts increasingly are ruling against their insane ideology.

Except that Trumpists say what they think (and then some) every single day. And then rage and cry when their offensive comments and bigotry is called out.

But the liberals turn a blind eye and ears to their and cry racism when called out on theirs.

Trump plays on that, he promotes the myth of the white man being a victim, the true victim of injustice.

And the fab 4 do the same thing, exactly the same thing.

And the media loves it

-12 ( +2 / -14 )

Trump didn't attack the message. He attacked the messengers. Even three of them are American born, stupid!

Criticising Trump policies does not make one anti American. Criticising Israeli policies on Palestinian issues does not make one anti Israeli or an anti-semitic.

Those are only the war cries of the righties!

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Trump is racist. His racism is key to his popularity among his racist fans. Thats why he has the support of the KKK, Richard Spencer, and employs neo-Nazi Gorka.

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https://i.redd.it/ta8blo2jx2a31.jpg

Gradualism is the way these developments always go. Get people to accept way beyond the unacceptable by slowly boiling the frog.

With Trump too, people have gone from allowing him to make all the birther insinuations about Obama, to the comments about Mexicans, to trying to ban all Muslims from flying, to paying off a prostitute, to the questionable behaviour in the Mueller report, and now these disgusting comments, basically hate speech, about other democratically elected US citizens. People are supposed to respect the position of President but Trump has brought shame to the post. International ridicule too, whether Americans like it or not. The only justification for letting him get away with it is him having got away with so much already. There is no dignity or moral compass left.

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many Democrats are guilty of hating white people and Jewish people.

There are plenty of Black Democrats who hate White people sure. But I doubt there is a significant number of Democrats who hate Jewish people. Many people in the world, like me, hate both the U.S. government and the Israeli government. That does not mean we hate America, Americans, Israel, Israelis or Jews.

Most of all though its foolish to try and divide American hates by R or D. Americans hate a lot. Its a national embarrassment. I think half of all Americans are trolls of various kinds, hating whatever for the sheer joy of hating. I say that as an American born and raised.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Blacklabel:. Omar IS conditionally American. The condition being that we graciously allowed her to be granted asylum in our country and

And sure did become quite the success being in the US House of Representatives by her mid-30s. You're a guy who can't even afford health insurance.

How about we take more like her and send guys like you to Somalia? You're just a drag on the system.

I'm starting to like this hierarchy stuff.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

bass4funk

I didn’t hear you say anything negative about the last administration Democrats and their minions.

A quick fact check would reveal the TH wasn't on JT at the time of the Obama administration.

But you certainly made up for the lack of them.

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Looks to me like he confused "racist bone" with "brain cell".

Telling anyone who is an American Citizen to "go back where you came from" is as racist as you can get. No one with any intelligence can defend such a comment coming from anyone, much less the POTUS.

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Too many Americans like to hate, including Trump which is why there are so many tragic mass shootings.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

I actually don't think Trump is a racist per se. In his worldview, anyone who's not rich is inferior and unworthy of his attention, and since this group also includes colored minorities, there you go. For snobs of the moneyed class, the only color upon which judgments are made is green.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Can you condemn the racist comments from Trump without mentioning liberals, bass?

Why? I don’t think his comments were racists. I think he was right and I’ll tell you why. I think the fab 4 really don’t like their country, they constantly undermine it, never say anything positive about it, never. Complain, complain. Want and think we shouldn’t be a sovereign nation, think all illegals are entitled to healthcare, doesn’t think when these new legal migrants come they should learn English, condemn our closest ally in the Middle East, Want to completely turn the country into a socialist nation, if that is so common then why are they here? It is a perfectly in legitimate question to ask. If they don’t like it here and if they think our capitalist system is wrong, then they should move to a socialist or communist country. policies they agree with and that they want to embrace.

There is nothing racist about it, the only thing is Omar is a person that seems to be ungrateful by the way she talks down about this country where he own country was war torn, practicing female castration mutilating girls, indiscriminately killing people and to live in a refugee camp and to leave all that and get one of the best educations this country has to offer, she just spits in the face of this nation and millions of us and the President have had enough and want her to stop. She has a Great life in this country, a great job and a great salary and yet, she uses her platform and her power to denigrate and to put down this country and this is exactly the reason why she is polling at 9% and the other 3 are as well not doing good. She has a right to say whatever she want to say, but so does the president and if she thinks we have to listen to her comments about this nation, then she can listen to what the president has to say to her in the other three. There is nothing racist about criticizing comments about policy, not if he attacked him personally about their race or color, then you can make a claim that it’s racist, but he didn’t do that. But the media did and is trying to make it so and the haters are buying into the hype.

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Okay, so what do we have?

Trump tweets something, that depending on the sensitivity of the reader, could be construed as either a clear example of his innate racism or as a perfectly reasonable observation. Depends on how you look at it.

Predictably, social media ignited. Trump was dragged over the coals in discussion groups and forums across the globe. The "squad" received the same kind of treatment On both sides, every insult and disparagement was gagged up and dutifully regurgitated. . But, so what? Trump wants the attention, not only for himself but for the "squad" and Pelosi.

There was a real showdown brewing in the Dem camp. Pitting the establishment moderate and business democrats against the new wave of freshman activists. Nancy scolded them, which resulted in AOC calling her a racist. It was boiling up to a head and then boom........ Trump drops his tweet. If the fight had continued Pelosi would have won, hands down, and that would have strengthened her position as leader of the party. Those establishment Dems don't like the "squad" mainly because they are afraid of them. Their apple carts are in jeopardy, too. A Pelosi victory would have helped to isolate and minimize an element that is perceived as a disruption to business as usual. But Trump screwed that up.

Now, as a result of Trump's crassness all eyes are on him and he is in charge of the narrative. Nancy had to defend the injured parties and in doing so she relinquished her authority to AOC and the "squad". Now AOC is the face of the Democratic Party. And Trump has seen the polls. For all the hype, socialism is poison to a majority of American voters and studies have shown that the more the electorate learns about socialism the more they dislike it. What Trump set up was a demonstration for the American voters to see just where the Democrats stand. If the Dems continue to appease the far left they run the risk of alienating a lot of middle ground voters.

The media took the bait, too. While every network was dutifully covering the "squad's" presser and anchors and commentators went on total OMB (orange man bad) jags, Trump's new border policy barring asylum seekers from applying at the southern border was relegated to a sidebar. And you know what they say, out of sight out of mind.

A lot of people expend a lot of energy going on about how stupid and inept Trump is, but in this situation everything seems to have worked out to Trump's advantage. Almost like it was a strategic thing. Nah... That can't be. Can it?

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

I watched the press conference held by these four women yesterday. They were brilliant. Made me feel proud to be an American again. It's great to know that we have principled, intelligent, compassionate people in Congress. Quite a contrast to the embarrassing garbage in the White House.

Got to really wonder what the feds took from Epstein's place. How many times a day do you think Trump calls Barr on that issue alone?

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Donald Jim Crow Trump, KKK, Racist-in-Chief.

Shame how much America has fallen since he took office.

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Kuya: Nah... That can't be. Can it?

Nope. Trump is emotional and lashes out, then his supporters create some kind of reasonable, rational, intelligent secret brilliance behind it.

Trump used a phrase associated with racism in this country, and directed it at minorities. We don’t need a thousand word “explanation” of how it’s all planned out brilliance. It’s just racism.

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I hope that 2020 will see the return of Donald Trump as that will be the will of the American people.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

Yes Melania is conditionally American too. The condition was that she married a citizen and went through our legal process of immigration. You dont see her badmouthing the country that graciously allowed her to come and live.

In that case a 'conditional American' like Melania should not represent the US in any capacity

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

Whatever he meant, he said that straight to American citizen. The leader of the greatest country built up by the immigrants said that to it's citizen. Citizenship is not something you can flip around like you move your resident card from California to NY state or Tokyo to Hokkaido. Those who have dual or triple passports should think twice before jumping on rotten the word " racist", you have every rights to do " If you hate the country you stay, if you are not happy, you can always leave" because you can do so.

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I watched the press conference held by these four women yesterday. They were brilliant. Made me feel proud to be an American again.

I get the same feeling when I saw the Presidents conference.

It's great to know that we have principled, intelligent, compassionate people in Congress. Quite a contrast to the embarrassing garbage in the White House.

I hope the Democrats can get to that plateau and leave the rhetoric behind.

Got to really wonder what the feds took from Epstein's place. How many times a day do you think Trump calls Barr on that issue alone?

I think Bill is more worried and with good reason.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

no, they were born here. Omar was not. So if she doesnt like it, she can go somewhere else. As can the 3 who were born in USA. Dont like it, move. Just like all the liberals promised after the election (but didnt do).

And the other three American born congress women, are they too "conditionally American?"

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

@blacklabel So if she doesnt like it, she can go somewhere else.

I'll equal your small-minded comment and say given all the complaints Trump supporters have about Americans who are different in some way from them, and given Trump supporters remain a minority made up of a certain demographic, maybe y'all should go somewhere else. And given Trump supporters admiration of Putin, Russia might be an ideal place for you, especially if climate change makes Russia's weather tolerable.

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we love America and we have the Presidency and the Senate majority. Our candidate won 30 states and the popular vote outside of California, which is a lost cause.

no reason for us to go anywhere. We aren’t the ones badmouthing our country and filing same day lawsuits on everything our elected President decides to do.

-13 ( +0 / -13 )

The only thing these women are doing is strengthening the Presidents hand. Their radical policies are seriously putting the Democrat party at risk for another big lose.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

Some seriously trigger people here. Everyone, Trump included, needs to chill the X out.

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bass4funk 

The only thing these women are doing is strengthening the Presidents hand. Their radical policies are seriously putting the Democrat party at risk for another big lose.

Then what are you complaining about?

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Some seriously trigger people here. Everyone, Trump included, needs to chill the X out.

True. That includes the 4 women who in congress who have taken offense.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Grounds for Denaturalization (very rare)

That was enlightening; I didnt know naturalized citizens could have their citizenship revoked. I know that native born citizens can have it taken away by committing certain un patronizing acts like serving in a foreign military or government post if not first approved by sec of defense or state, serving as a hostile in another military, renouncing, taking on another countries citizenship (although this one is grey, there are many US citizens in japan I hear that are also Japanese, they just never renounced) I think in all the above cases, its all but impossible to take it away.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Ok, he doesn't have "a" racist bone in his body...that would imply one bone...I believe EVERY bone in his body is racist.

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I have seen many youtube videos where foreigners in Japan excuse certain "racist" Japanese behavior...that to me is blatant racism. If the same thing happened in the US, there would be hell to pay for sure. I dont see Trump as a racist at all.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

@SuperLib: Trump used a phrase associated with racism in this country, and directed it at minorities. We don’t need a thousand word “explanation” of how it’s all planned out brilliance. It’s just racism.

Trump told people who hate America that they have a choice to leave. Nothing about race unless you believe every criticism of a person of another race is proof of racism. In that case you would have to believe that Nancy Pelosi is a racist for criticizing those four non-White freshman representatives. Past racism by Democrats get a clean pass - Hillary’s mentor being a former leader of the KKK who said the n-word on national television this century. Obama’s mentor a leader of a black nationalist church who spewed racial separatism and hate at the Obama’s for 17 years. Biden’s hobnobbing with segregationists planning on how to stop Federal efforts at integration (making states rights arguments to boot).

The problem for the Dems now is that the race card has been played out. I can remember Democrats arguing that Mitt Romney and John McCain were racist - because well, that’s what Dems do - they play the race card in order to gain political power. Conservatives want anyone who supports the Constitutional idea of individual rights. Also they want people who do not believe that by the accident of birth one shouldn’t be tarred by the epithet of “White privilege” as if that makes a person inferior to others for no other reason than the color of their skin.

The four America hating freshmen representatives are not victims of racial oppression. They are privileged to hold high office in a country in which they would like nothing better than to deconstruct into a tribalist Lord of the Flies like power grab. They don’t wish to defend the Constitution of the United States. They want to fundamentally transform it. There are many countries in the world that hate American style democracy. Why not take their ample resources and live in a country like that? Why would anyone want to destroy the idea of individual rights and liberty? I don’t ever want to trade that for the failed idea of neo-Marxism.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Our candidate won 30 states and the popular vote outside of California, which is a lost cause.

What a pointless thought. "If you subtract millions of votes against me, I actually won!".

And the far right thinks its an intellectual powerhouse. Laughable.

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@blacklabewe love America

I have trouble believing Trump supporters 'love America' given how often so many of you have called for the dismantling of fundamental US systems, and how often you've railed against the majority of your fellow citizens who have political views different from yours. I have trouble believing those pushing white nationalist agendas 'love' America.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

240 to 187, to condemn  . . . https://www.kktv.com/content/news/House-votes-to-condemn-President-Donald-Trump-tweets-512806851.html

Money no matter how much should buy influence, which leads to unjust and criminal behavior.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Like many other simple concepts, Trump clearly does not understand what racism is. He gets easily confused by the simplest things and fails utterly to understand them. He can not see that he is overtly racist, because he doesn't get what that is or means. The US people voted into the office of the President of the United States of America, an individual who can not understand racism and plain idea's and concepts like decency and morality and friendship.

Now it looks like they might even vote him in for another four years in 2020. Perhaps its not just Trump that doesn't understand plain concepts. I think the US education system is letting everyone in the country down by not teaching the simple things.

A land that lost its way. We hope they find their way back to normal soon.

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"If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!"

MAGA: Make American Great Again, meaning the people spouting this slogan and making it the basis of an electoral campaign were presumably unhappy at America's perceived lack of greatness.

Yet we didn't see a mass exodus from the US of slack-jaws wearing red baseball caps.

Trump either thinks trying to make your country better is a good and honourable thing to do (in which case he should be praising the young women who are trying to do just that) or he thinks any criticism should lead to immediate departure from US shores (in which case we are left wondering just what on earth he thinks he is doing in the White House, pretending to be leader of a country he hates).

I hope that 2020 will see the return of Donald Trump as that will be the will of the American people.

Not if the vote went similar to the 2016 vote.

Trump hates America. He thinks it's full of South American drug dealers, rapists, murderers, free loaders and some good people. He needs to emigrate to a country more suited to his temperament and ideals. I doubt Russia would have him, but maybe Saudi Arabia or North Korea could give him hospitality.

if Trump hates America so much he should go back to Germany and Scotland.

I don't think either Germany or Scotland would want him, but it would be interesting to see him try to go to both places at the same time. It would take a huge amount of covfefe.

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Then what are you complaining about?

I’m not, just making a statement.

What a pointless thought. "If you subtract millions of votes against me, I actually won!". 

And the far right thinks its an intellectual powerhouse. Laughable

Yeah...ok, but it won’t change our EC and if the Dems don’t get it together, they will lose that again.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Yet we didn't see a mass exodus from the US of slack-jaws wearing red baseball caps. 

Yes, all the libs that want to live in a world and be showered with entitlements, I wish them all the luck in the world.

Trump either thinks trying to make your country better is a good and honourable thing to do (in which case he should be praising the young women who are trying to do just that)

But these women are not, that’s the problem, there is not one good thing they’ve done since being in office.

or he thinks any criticism should lead to immediate departure from US shores (in which case we are left wondering just what on earth he thinks he is doing in the White House, pretending to be leader of a country he hates)

He loves the country, dislikes Europe, dislikes the socialists that are now trying to get a flag and a sickle over the WH.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

So is America great again? Or is it still the same America that Trump fans hate?

How about this....what's your opinion of the proud American men and women at the CIA, FBI, and NSA keeping us safe at night? Still hate them?

Do you still hate how America discriminates against white, Christian males?

Do you still hate our increased healthcare coverage, our asylum policies, social security, Hollywood, the NFL, Nike?

Actually, is there anything about America you guys actually like?

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

It's kind of funny, I seem to remember numerous celebs and others promising in 2016 that, if Trump won, they would leave the country (Barbara Streisand et al). Did they?

Seems America ain't such a bad place after all...

The current hysteria over, of all things, a Tweet, is in a similar vein. Hyperventilation, stampeding to the nearest microphone to shout 'woke' slogans, preening and posturing, all to what end exactly? Trump won't change- he's just another loudmouth from NYC who leads with his ass before engaging his brain. His supporters don't care, it's baked in the pie. His detractors don't care, he could elocute like Stephen Frye and they still wouldn't vote for him. It's the folks in the middle that have to decide- what does each party stand for and what is important? At the moment, results are winning over feelz.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Its really sad that this doesn't even register as news anymore...

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Not the first time Trump has had problems with his bones. He's going to end up with osteoporosis especially on the diet he eats.

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@cleo

In June’s Gallup poll 90% of Republicans were for Trump!

No major screw-ups and he’s back again.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

"June 16, 2015 – In his speech announcing his candidacy for President of the United States, Donald Trump said, “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” "

LEST WE FORGET THE HORRORS: A CATALOG OF TRUMP’S WORST CRUELTIES, COLLUSIONS, CORRUPTIONS, AND CRIMES

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-546

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Lets see...the things Trump fans love....

Attacking military heroes, Russian dictators, splits with our allies, suspension of the separation of powers, Presidents who are more like kings, voter suppression laws, gerrymandering, banning over a billion people from entering.

Yep. That's American patriotism.

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