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 where he played a round of golf.

Why is Trump continuing to contest the election when he doesn't want the job, just wants to play golf.

He's playing golf so he can bilk taxpayers for even more money.

37 ( +46 / -9 )

Does Trump do anything beyond play golf, tweet, and watch TV? Laziest president ever.

39 ( +48 / -9 )

Maybe he just flipped the words innocently four years back... "I will be so busy golfing I won't have time to play president..."

30 ( +36 / -6 )

How ironic the Trumpenstien was telling all American's to "gather" for the holiday.

His "advice" is going to be the death of tens-of-thousands of more American's over the next month or so!

21 ( +28 / -7 )

Why is Trump continuing to contest the election when he doesn't want the job, just wants to play golf.

Who told you he doesn’t want the job? Why does the msm keep peddling this crap? Lol

He's playing golf so he can bilk taxpayers for even more money.

Yes and while DC is closed and outside he doesn’t have to worry about clusters and while his lawsuits are pending and they will so until it gets to the SC, why not golf, paint or do what you like?

-35 ( +12 / -47 )

@bass4funk: How about he perform the job he was elected to perform in 2016 and lead a country suffering through a raging pandemic?

34 ( +40 / -6 )

He’s the biggest sore loser ever but he won in a sense because he changed America forever and was able to bring so many people down to his level. Sad.

25 ( +32 / -7 )

The country sunk in the pandemic by the mediocre Trump administration and the only thing this sore loser is doing is crying and making childish complaints about the election in addition to playing golf, and still there are so naive people who support this losing clown.

The most pathetic president in America's history, the one term eternally impeached loser clown..

28 ( +35 / -7 )

Trump plays more golf than Tiger Woods.

Trump's performance as president definitely declined towards the end of his term in office, but I'll bet his golf game is hotter than ever with all of the playing he's done.

18 ( +24 / -6 )

why not golf, paint or do what you like?

He did promise the American people that he wouldn't play golf so much. But I guess he is living by his mantra: "Promises made; promises broken". To date, he has played more golf in his tenure, than Obama had played in eight years. Wow!

"I encourage all Americans to gather, in homes and places of worship, to offer a prayer of thanks to God for our many blessings," the president, who recovered from his own case of COVID-19 last month, said in a statement.

Wow! Trump encouraging Americans to "pray to God". When was the last time he has actually gone to church, other than for a photo-op? He hasn't even read the Bible, much less believe in God.

27 ( +31 / -4 )

Trump says he will leave White House if Biden wins Electoral College vote

Oh, well I guess that means he’s conceded. Maybe Biden threatened to release all those transcripts he’s been keeping on that private server.

14 ( +19 / -5 )

Just leave The White House so the world can become a better place to live. Sooner the better!

19 ( +24 / -5 )

Does Trump do anything beyond play golf, tweet, and watch TV? Laziest president ever.

Which is why he never wanted the job from the get-go, but only the adulation given to "the most powerful man in the world".

Trump's four-year reckless charade has now entered its tragic finale as this sorry fake Potus has given up all pretense of governing. The world is now heeding the words of the real president-in-waiting while the obese narcissist ends his final days on the job "grief-golfing" as Americans die in numbers nobody has ever seen before.

24 ( +27 / -3 )

How many times has he gone golfing since the election? I think it's more than 3 times.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

...will leave White House if Biden wins Electoral College vote

Good riddance!

29 ( +32 / -3 )

Well, at least there's a day from Trump, now, December 14th. Of course, he changes his mind every day, if not minute, so until he's gone, the super spreader in chief is a menace.

If he does leave, December 14th could be considered a national holiday, the day we get rid of the biggest traitor President the United States has ever had the displeasure of having.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

He hasn't even read the Bible

He can't read, that's why he held the bible upside down.

21 ( +24 / -3 )

The LOSER has no say in anything. No need to announce his departure. He WILL be leaving the White House, or be thrown in the back of a police van as a trespasser, along with his entire crooked family.

Still wearing his Make China Great Again hat I see. LOSER.

21 ( +24 / -3 )

It looks like somebody finally made him understand how an election works. Better later than never.

16 ( +20 / -4 )

Who told you he doesn’t want the job? 

He coveted the title, not the job. Quite obviously, based on his four years of ignorance and ineptitude.

He had no true policies and had no strategy to get things done. That's a double whammy.

Thinking something is going to get done because he said so to someone is the most juvenile, ridiculous of egotistical dumb behavior in a democracy. Trump thought it was an autocracy. He thought he could be a fascist, without realizing he was doing so. He's an idiot.

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How many times has he gone golfing since the election? I think it's more than 3 times.

More like 3 times a day

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He is up to something fishy. He has his mouth in the ears of the electoral collage. Convincing trying to rouge vote, and promising pardons. Then he will come out and say see it must have been rigged, even the electoral collage thought so.

big baby pres, it up to something.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

what a comments.

This kind of SPD comments only possible in USA

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

Wow, so much love on here today... All of this enmity is like a cancer for the soul. Get used to the simple fact that man can not walk on water, eat BS all day and expect to produce icecream at days end.

-20 ( +5 / -25 )

Trump has somehow managed myriad successes

seems like he's been busy to me!

That just shows you are living in an alternate reality created by the right-wing media. In the real world, he's just an incompetent buffoon, taking the credit for good things he had no influence on and blaming everyone but himself for all the very bad things he caused (over 250000 deaths and counting).

17 ( +22 / -5 )

How noble of the actual election loser.Maybe he got shook by his predecessor's suggestion to get the Navy Seals to remove him.So embarrassing in any case.

10 ( +14 / -4 )

The fraud Trump insisted!!!

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The amoral and unethical current occupant of the White House will continue to spew disinformation and misinformation and make the next administration’s path more difficult. A sad indication of how little he cares for the country and its people, while hugging the Flag of the United States of America.

During one of the pandemic super spreading rallies, he also stated: “If I lose, which I will not unless there is massive election fraud, I will leave the country and move somewhere to be determined”.

Well ... keep your promise for once. I have a question: Which country’s passport will you use, and under whose name will it be?

Regardless, don’t let the door/gate hit you. Borrowing the slogan from a well know sports equipment company, “just do it”.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday he will leave the White House

He got fired, so doesn’t matter whether he accepts or not.

Either he can leave on his own or get thrown out.

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"This election was a fraud," Trump insisted, while offering no concrete evidence of such voting irregularities.

Just one more fantasy to join the alt-reality that Trump and his cult live in...

The Dems and Hugo Chavez stole the election...his inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's...COVID is caused by Chinese-built 5G network towers...Elvis is a Biden supporter...

Add the "Q" kooks and you have a real Crazy Town...

People this far gone from reality shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a firearm...

8 ( +12 / -4 )

No worries. Trump has plans for the incoming administration - what comes around goes around. The fun is about to begin.

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How about he perform the job he was elected to perform in 2016 and lead a country suffering through a raging pandemic?

He did, Dr. Fauci said so. Liberals push the rest of us to listen to the medical experts and since Fauci is an expert, he thinks Trump handled this pandemic well despite their verbal occasional disagreements.

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While Trump dead-enders may be dreaming of a miraculous, last-minute EC upset, the silence of the Trumps speaks eloquently for the fact that themselves have all been rattled by their losing the plot. However, clearly not everybody is grieving over the lame duck's firing and imminent eviction if we can judge from Melania's recent appearance wearing a radiant smile like no-one has ever seen before. Meanwhile, the country has to endure a string of presidential "revenge pardons" before the final bell.

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He’s in no position to dictate if and how he will leave office.

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Wow, so much love on here today... All of this enmity is like a cancer for the soul.

not just today for the last 4yrs, Americans have had enough and now they got rid of the source of all that cancerous enmity.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

bass4funk

while his lawsuits are pending and they will so until it gets to the SC,

His law suits have been dismissed. But what constitutional point would Trump have to take it to the SCOTUS?

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Fauci is an expert, he thinks Trump handled this pandemic well despite their verbal occasional disagreements.

oh more lies, where did Fauci even state that, I can give you have dozen sources where he states the opposite of where the pandemic is heading

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Trump has played golf over 305 times since he became President. So basically once every four days or so he its on the golf course. He is lazy that it is for sure. He does not even walk the course, maybe not able to do so any longer. He made Abe carry his clubs when they played together.

Fauci, along with every other COVID expert, is counting down the days to January 20th when real leadership starts again. Unfortunately by then nearly 400,000 Americans may be dead due to Trump incompetence and his downplaying the pandemic so he could improve his chances to win a second term. He will have killed more USA people than were lost in WW2 by the time Biden with the scientists defeat the pandemic.

It is incredible after the huge defeat of Trump and the massive failures of his Presidency, clearly the worst President ever, some of the rightwing conservatives on this board continue to defend total failure. It is laughable really. Most have stopped posting as they know now how wrong they have been over the last four years by backing a con man essentially.

11 ( +14 / -3 )

The only plans trump should have is how to handle the investigations on him.

Knowing him, he doesn’t even have that!!!

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Like he has a choice! What a pathetic man he is. Just plays golf every week (at huge expense in security costs etc. to the US tax payer) because he can't handle dealing with a pandemic. Now 2,000 people a day dying in the US and he just plays golf. There's Trump's leadership for you. Shame on anyone who voted twice for this absolute loser. So happy he lost this election. So happy.

11 ( +14 / -3 )

bass4funk

He did, Dr. Fauci said so. Liberals push the rest of us to listen to the medical experts and since Fauci is an expert, he thinks Trump handled this pandemic well despite their verbal occasional disagreements.

Trump rarely listen to Dr Fauci or his other pandemic advisors. Didn't attend a meeting in more than five months. Dr Fauci advised people not to travel during the Thanksgiving. Trump posted the opposite.

Trump the president who was going to be so busy he would have no time for golf. Even played golf when the G20 leaders were discussing the pandemic.

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How many times has he gone golfing since the election? I think it's more than 3 times.

at least 3 times, almost 300 times in 4yrs thats double of Obama, its

cost the taxpayer over $140million, majority of Trumps golf trips have been to his own resorts and yes he makes millions charging the US taxpayer to play at his own resorts

https://trumpgolfcount.com/

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Who told you he doesn’t want the job? Why does the msm keep peddling this crap? Lol

I infer it from his behavior. If someone doesn't bothering even doing a job, then they probably don't want it.

Don't get me wrong though, he certainly wants the title, but not the job and responsibilities that go with it.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

He will not whatever. Maybe he would leave when he himself shot his head.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Israel are deeply concerned Trump will attack Iran before he leaves and have made their military ready and on standby to defend the country just in case. Even the Israeli's have become unsure of Trump. Netanyahu had a secret meeting with the Saudi crown prince.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Yo Donald, some news for you: you got your doors blown off in the popular vote AND the electoral college. You can go away mad just as long as you go away. Happy Turkey Day, you shichimencho.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Zichi,

barring an attack by Iran on USA property this will not happen. I doubt the military will

follow the orders of Trump now that he is a lame duck President. They would consult with

Biden before doing anything and of course Biden would say no to an unprovoked attack on Iran as he is a sane person. The USA needs to end the many stupid fake wars started under Bush Junior, not start new ones.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Trump remains Commander-in-Chief until Jan 19 and the military must follow his orders. Trump could well make a missile attack against Iran. When Israel expressed so much concern about it too. Trump still holds the nuclear football which will be handed over to Biden on Jan 19.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

When Biden called for unity he was speaking to all American and that includes left leaners who have done nothing but insult the millions of American who voted for Trump. He was talking to democratic supporters who are combing through lists of people who donated to the Trump campaign to try to get those people fired from their jobs. Continuing to deride Trump and the people who voted for him is exactly the opposite of the unity Biden is trying to inspire.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

No worries. Trump has plans for the incoming administration - what comes around goes around. The fun is about to begin.

The fun started 12 years ago, when you guys started obstructing the Obama administration, rather than working as a check/balance opposition.

You're right that what goes around comes around. You guys started it with Obama, it continued with Trump, and now you guys seem to have not learned your lesson, so the cycle of obstructionism will continue.

I'm sure that's the best course for America no doubt. In these times of turmoil, creating as much divisiveness as possible will definitely be better than listening to stupid Biden whose trying to call for unity and bipartisanship.

Meanwhile the rest of the world watches the fall of the American empire.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

just checking in to see what stage of "Trump will be reelected acceptance" liberals are in.

Evidence side: It was no evidence, then no "widespread" evidence. now there is 100s of pages of evidence in multiple states but you dont "like" the evidence. next stage: no judge has found the evidence credible

Court side: All his court cases were thrown out! well except that one, well except these 3. there is a typo in the court filing! next stage: it doesnt matter if the court finds fraud, the state already certified it, too late!

My, that was some sulk - three weeks - I guess the hangover finally wore off...

Evidence? Explain this;

Giuliani: "This is not a fraud case"...

His Attorney in Pennsylvania: "There is no evidence of any fraud"...

His Attorney in Arizona: "We are not alleging fraud or anyone stealing the election"...

https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/

8 ( +11 / -3 )

I encourage all Americans to gather, in homes and places of worship

....for a last, resounding, nationwide super spreader event.

Leave your masks at home coz they're un-American, and don't forget to hug and kiss all your distant relatives, including 90-year-old Aunt Jane and young Cousin Dwayne with asthma.

Kiss them long and hard and say goodbye, because you won't be seeing a lot of them for next year's holidays.

The man-child needs a good hard slap up the back of the head to knock a bit of sense into him.

Continuing to deride Trump and the people who voted for him is exactly the opposite of the unity Biden is trying to inspire.

Hard not to deride such long-lasting, virulent, ongoing stupidity, mind.

10 ( +14 / -4 )

What is this man-child-baby talking about?

It has been decided by the vast majority of US voters.

Get over it, get a job, and get out =G.G.G.!!!

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Trump remains Commander-in-Chief until Jan 19 and the military must follow his orders. Trump could well make a missile attack against Iran. When Israel expressed so much concern about it too. Trump still holds the nuclear football which will be handed over to Biden on Jan 19.

Without an Authorized Use of Military Force resolution from Congress any such attack is illegal under US law and could leave him open to prosecution. Moreover, military officers are taught early on in their careers that their oath is to the laws and Constitution of the US, not to any individual, and that if they are given an illegal order they are duty bound to refuse to obey it. Therefore carrying out such an illegal order is equally illegal and would subject everyone in the chain of command to prosecution. It was made clear to us during our Code of Conduct training, given to us in our case by Doug Hegdahl and Jeremiah Denton (find out who they were and you will understand the gravity of what they taught us) that if we were ever given an illegal order we were to run, not walk, to the JAG officers but were emphatically not permitted to follow illegal orders. We were expected to know the difference too.

And, obtw, Mr. Miller may not legally serve in his current position as Acting SECDEF. Why? Two reasons. Number one, he has not been out of uniform the minimum ten years required by US law to legally take the job unless Congress grants an exception. They have not. Second, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, who was confirmed by the Senate to hold that position is, by statute, supposed to assume the position of SECDEF if that position is vacated by resignation or firing. Instead a subordinate to the Deputy SECDEF was installed above him. A smart senior officer would argue anything that comes from Mr. Miller is not a legal order.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

It's just day 23 of 45, kiddies.

 Don't forget that the "Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election" is currently in play:

Section 1. (a) Not later than 45 days after the conclusion of a United States election, the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the heads of any other appropriate executive departments and agencies (agencies), shall conduct an assessment of any information indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election. The assessment shall identify, to the maximum extent ascertainable, the nature of any foreign interference and any methods employed to execute it, the persons involved, and the foreign government or governments that authorized, directed, sponsored, or supported it. The Director of National Intelligence shall deliver this assessment and appropriate supporting information to the President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security.

Based on the evidence being presented in the two Powell filings, it appears that an assessment will be delivered that will require the blocking of certain interests in property presently possessed by various individuals. Meanwhile, one thing that has largely passed uncommented on in light of last Friday's canceled hearing in PA is that Dominion Voting Systems has publicly stated that it is "under litigation".

A roundtable discussion with Dominion Voting Systems was canceled overnight. Dominion says it is under litigation and can not answer questions at this time.

Interesting. By whom are they being sued?

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BREAKING: The conclusion below is from the exhibit supporting paragraph 14. This exhibit, which is testimonial evidence in the form of an affadavit from an expert witness, proves a lot of the information released prior to the court filing was accurate, right down to the identities of the Serbian programmers working for Dominion.

In my professional opinion, this affidavit presents unambiguous evidence that Dominion Voter Systems and Edison Research have been accessible and were certainly compromised by rogue actors, such as Iran and China. By using servers and employees connected with rogue actors and hostile foreign influences combined with numerous easily discoverable leaked credentials, these organizations neglectfully allowed foreign adversaries to access data and intentionally provided access to their infrastructure in order to monitor and manipulate elections, including the most recent one in 2020. This represents a complete failure of their duty to provide basic cyber security. This is not a technological issue, but rather a governance and basic security issue: if it is not corrected, future elections in the United States and beyond will not be secure and citizens will not have confidence in the results. 

BREAKING: The President is excising the Deep State from defense policy:

Several high profile members of the Defense Policy Board were removed on Wednesday by the Trump administration, in yet another purge of longstanding foreign policy experts and national security establishment figures in the final days of the Trump era, according to three defense officials.

Members who were suddenly removed include former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, former ranking member of the House Intelligence committee Jane Harman and former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, two of the officials said.

The Defense Policy Board is an outside advisory group of former high profile national security officials who "provide the Secretary of Defense and the Deputy Secretary of Defense, independent, informed advice and opinions concerning matters of defense policy in response to specific tasks from the Secretary of Defense, the Deputy Secretary of Defense," according to their website.

"As part of long-considered changes, we can confirm that several members of the Department's Defense Policy Board have been removed. We are extremely grateful for their dedicated service, commitment, and contributions to our national security. Future announcements for new members of the board will be made soon," the third official said.

The first two officials said the members removed also included former Chief of Naval Operations, retired Adm. Gary Roughead, former chief operating officer at the Pentagon Rudy De Leon and former Bush deputy national security adviser J.D. Crouch II. 

These are not the final days of the Trump era. That's why he's making the changes.

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It's not an "if/then" thing. He lost. He is leaving of his own accord or being "escorted" out.

PA, MI, GA, WI all certified. It's over, done, finished. Trump is a loser BIGLY. 4% in the popular vote amounting to an almost 7 million vote difference.

306 to 232 in the EC. In 2016, Trump himself proclaimed that to be a "blow-out."

Bye-don. Next stop: Trump Tower Leavenworth.

11 ( +14 / -3 )

Sworn affidavits absent corroborating evidence are heresay, and not admissible in a criminal prosecution. Only four states allow the use of affidavits in civil cases. Lots of hot air but every time claims were challenged no corroborating evidence could be produced. In fact in every case I am aware of, which is not comprehensive but pretty extensive, the evidence supported no fraud whatsoever. No votes from dead people could be proved although many supposedly dead people turned out to be very much alive and legally allowed to vote. Trucks backed up to the same back door every other truck full of ballots used to unload, and all of the trucks were rentals with plates from many states, as the state didn't have a fleet of trucks but rented them when they needed them. Windows were covered in one vote counter center because people outside would not remain back from the windows as requested by law enforcement and would not stop taking photos of the vote counters despite being told multiple times not to take photos. Not incidentally one of the vote counters was identified and now receives death threats. Nice. I could go on. Not one of the many accusations stood up to examination.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

I think people who still cling to the idea that there was massive fraud in the last election really need to seek some form of professionnal help. I'm genuinely worried for them.

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No worries. Trump has plans for the incoming administration - what comes around goes around. The fun is about to begin.

The highest aspiration of the Republican mind is revenge. Just like Mitch McConnell saying his job was to make Mr. Obama a one term President. No thought to what is best for the country. No thought to what is good or corrosive to informed self government. It has never been about any of that. It is all about power, money and ego. Maybe that is why Mr. Trump didn't earn a second term and didn't deserve to?

10 ( +12 / -2 )

...for a last, resounding, nationwide super spreader event.

Funny, not one person was saying that when Biden allegedly won this election and people were in the streets celebrating, not one liberal network said a word or even when Schumer took off his mask...funny....well, not really.

Leave your masks at home coz they're un-American,

No, because we’re tired of these Democrat leaders telling us what to do, but they violate the rules and then try to come up with some stupid excuse why they didn’t wear one.

The man-child needs a good hard slap

I would reserve it for House Democrats actually.

-18 ( +2 / -20 )

He's a real killer on the golf course, isn't he? Loves the bunker.

Hopefully, he'll be out of the White House and straight into the arms of justice. That would be nice.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

it is very nice to be out of the media phase and into the court phase of "what does the law say".

it appears that many votes that were counted do not meet the definition of a legal vote. For example, if the voting address is not a residence, that vote is illegal. if you moved more than 30 days prior, that vote is illegal. If you claimed you are confined to your home as reason to vote by mail without ID confirmation but you are not actually confined to your home, that vote is illegal.

it doesnt have to be widespread nor does it have to be proven that its enough to change the result. just that fraud happened. which is anything that is against the law, regardless of what special rules Dems implemented in their states.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Hmmmm...that sounds a lot like Tucker Carlson...

If so, good.

Didn't answer the question - if this is true, then why are Rudy, and the Trump Attorneys in Arizona and Pennsylvania claiming "no fraud" when under oath?

Well, not entirely, I don’t know what will happen when they go to the supreme court, but as far as proving facts we just don’t know yet they don’t know, they assume as millions do but in order to say that it happened unequivocally without a shadow of a doubt it is better to error on the side of caution, but we shall see. Dems are good at covering their tracks.

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

He's a real killer on the golf course, isn't he? Loves the bunker.

Speaking of Joe.....

Hopefully, he'll be out of the White House and straight into the arms of justice. That would be nice.

Yeah, that won’t happen so....

-18 ( +1 / -19 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1J9k4tyAI

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

it appears that many votes that were counted do not meet the definition of a legal vote. For example, if the voting address is not a residence, that vote is illegal. if you moved more than 30 days prior, that vote is illegal. If you claimed you are confined to your home as reason to vote by mail without ID confirmation but you are not actually confined to your home, that vote is illegal.

it doesnt have to be widespread nor does it have to be proven that its enough to change the result. just that fraud happened. which is anything that is against the law, regardless of what special rules Dems implemented in their states.

So for the third time, if what you say is true, then why are three of Trump's Attorneys stating under oath that "this is not a fraud case" and "we are not alleging fraud or that the election was stolen"?

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yes, so wait and see what happens to the "calls for unity" once Trump is announced the winner.

What "unity" and "best for the country" means to Dems is shut up and accept these disputed results! because if you continue to dig into this, it will fall apart.

We Dems never expected the orange guy to get 11 million MORE votes than last time, so our fraud mechanisms had to exceed the number of votes the machines could count in a time period and exceed the number of people voting who even live in one place. so they got caught.

No thought to what is best for the country. No thought to what is good or corrosive to informed self government

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

No worries. Trump has plans for the incoming administration - what comes around goes around. The fun is about to begin.

He's very clever, getting his minions to hint at his cunning master plan via this site.

Let's see, there's the pardons, the slow drip drip of information to the new administration, the disgusting calls to go out and spread the disease over Thanksgiving, the SCOTUS weighed in his favour over not restricting super spreaders at places of worship... thus, leading to a decimated and distraught populace for next year.

Amazing how the base are cheering for the destruction of their own country and its structures and safeguards. All just to own the libs...

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Trump is leaving the White house ... Watch him what he said ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1J9k4tyAI

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Speaking of Joe.....

I realise it's difficult for Trump supporters to follow, let alone engage with, debate but I wasn't speaking about the President-Elect. How can Trump play golf as the deaths ravage your nation? Any other leader, anywhere in the world, and conservatives would be baying for blood.

Yeah, that won’t happen so....

Yes, you said that about 45 losing the election. How'd that work out for you?

5 ( +8 / -3 )

At this point, Trump should just do everything he can to tear down the establishment and Deep State as much as he can.

Give pardons to Assange, Snowden, and more

Pull all troops out of any country where they don't belong

Declassify documents

Generally just make their lives as much of a living hell as possible until he has to go. This is the way.

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

*So for the third time, if what you say is true, then why are three of Trump's Attorneys stating under oath that *"this is not a fraud case" and "we are not alleging fraud or that the election was stolen"?

In the legal term officially on the record yes, but unofficially behind the record of course not they don’t think it and everyone knows I don’t think it. That’s the last thing that Giuliani needs, is a perjury trap, nothing more than what the liberals like to do in order to not fall in the trap then you would have to do the opposite and that is exactly his strategy until further notice, seems logical to me.

-13 ( +2 / -15 )

your claim is from an article 7 days ago.

The most recent PA, GA and MI lawsuits do allege fraud. and lots of it. 200 pages of it for GA.

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

We Dems never expected the orange guy to get 11 million MORE votes than last time, so our fraud mechanisms had to exceed the number of votes the machines could count in a time period and exceed the number of people voting who even live in one place. so they got caught.

How exciting!

I just can’t understand why judges are wiping their backsides with the evidence presented by Trump’s elite team.

Boring legal types. No imagination. Get a few QAnon types in there.

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every court....so far. Most cases were dropped prior to any evidence of fraud being allowed to be presented or reviewed.

The most recent GA and MI filings that do allege fraud have not even been reviewed yet. There are hearings today and next week in GA, PA, AZ, NV and MI where more fraud will be alleged and backed up with affidavits and witness testimony,

Dont even need fraud to win, Just something that was allowed that is actually illegal. Its a pretty low bar to meet. But yeah, there was intentional fraud.

Every court,

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At this point, Trump should just do everything he can to tear down the establishment

He is the establishment. Although, he's doing a fine, fine job at self-destruction and guaranteeing a legacy as the worst PotUS in American history.

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Trump is one of the top 5 best presidents.

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not one person was saying that when Biden allegedly won this election and people were in the streets celebrating

Sorry, I missed the bit where President-Elect Biden was urging people to gather in huge maskless crowds.

we’re tired of these Democrat leaders telling us what to do

Maybe if the great maskless hordes had a bit more common sense, they wouldn't need to be told what to do because it's common sense.

I would reserve it for House Democrats actually.

No need to reserve it. Let anyone who deserves it, get one. Be sure to start lining up early, you need to be near the front of the queue.

Well, not entirely, I don’t know what will happen when they go to the supreme court, but as far as proving facts we just don’t know yet they don’t know, they assume as millions do but in order to say that it happened unequivocally without a shadow of a doubt it is better to error on the side of caution, but we shall see.

Or as your nero puts it, 'We'll see what happens'?

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Sorry, I missed the bit where President-Elect Biden was urging people to gather in huge maskless crowds. 

Joe didn’t, but he also didn’t tell people not to go out on the streets he didn’t say anything, none of the leader said anything and the media said nothing, absolutely nothing about it, so once again more liberal hypocrisy not surprising at all...

Maybe if the great maskless hordes had a bit more common sense, they wouldn't need to be told what to do because it's common sense.

maybe, but over the last four months all of these rioters and looters and all these blue states that were destroying all the cities not one liberal media outlet condemned these ask not one of them we’re calling for trump to quote the unrest, not one liberal media outlet was saying anything that the police should undertake drastic measures to stop the unrest..

Or as your nero puts it, 'We'll see what happens'?

Yup.

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No, we do, we just don’t believe in the one-sided liberal narrative talking points.

Not being a liberal, I wouldn't know. Odd how everytime you accuse people of being liberals, the thread in question, is disabled.

And of course, you still switched the conversation away from Trump.

what else is trump supposed to do just stand there with binoculars surveying the nation in overlooking it and wait for the days to take on and do nothing, you guys are funny. Lol

Interesting, how you find the rising death toll and your leader playing golf as people die, the hospitals struggling and queues for the foodbanks increasing ... funny.

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Trump is one of the top 5 best presidents.

Hard to judge given political biases.

I’d say being a one-term president isn’t a good start to make a case for greatness.

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Mitch McConnell has been quiet has a mouse because he's worry if he says too much the senate will lose the two seats in Georgia in Jan.

"When President Donald Trump convened his national-security team last week to discuss whether to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, his top advisers dissuaded him from launching missile strikes, The New York Times reported. This comes as a relief, but that such a move was even under consideration is cause for alarm."

"Given its fixation on Iran, the Trump administration might seek to use as pretext for a military attack on Iran the International Atomic Energy Agency’s recent announcement that the country has now succeeded in reprocessing 12 times the amount of low-enriched uranium that would have been permitted under the JCPOA. "

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*He is the establishment.*

No, he’s not a career politician.

Although, he's doing a fine, fine job at self-destruction

His record accomplishments say otherwise, definitely not the worst, I know 3 that would be qualified as THE worst President.

Not being a liberal, I wouldn't know. Odd how everytime you accuse people of being liberals, the thread in question, is disabled.

And of course, you still switched the conversation away from Trump. 

I did not.

Interesting, how you find the rising death toll and your leader playing golf as people die, the hospitals struggling and queues for the foodbanks increasing ... funny.

I never said such a thing and shame of liberals to constantly play this game. Everyone takes this virus seriously, but that does not excuse the fact that liberals are using this pandemic as the hypocrites they are to say trump Republicans have no sympathy and yet they are the very people that are profiting off the scare tactic to use to push people to vote a certain way, so you can easily make the argument that liberals are using this pandemic for their political advantage and that’s not an understatement. Again, stop making as if liberals are the Saints in all this, they are not.

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Lawsuit tracker: Trump’s battle faces skepticism from judges

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

There will be no changes in Biden becoming the 46th.

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Ted Cruz.

He’s hated by pretty much everyone outside the Bible-bashers and even they went for Trump.

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I will have to agree with Democrats here. For the good of country. He must just go. The opportunity to bow out gracefully has passed. And the funny thing about lineage & legacy. Its going to affect him in the future and not just him. But his Children. Maybe one of them would inspire to run for an office in civil/public service. The lack of concession he is showing the world. That is going to follow the entire family. The family will painted with same brush. Let this be a lesson to us Republican's. Not to hire a Non-Professional Politician ever again. Now I am ((NOT)) talking about past deeds or the divide or of his track record. I am simply looking at this as campaign strategist. Now as of today. At this point he is damaging America, He is damaging the Legal system, He is damaging his family. He is trying to hold on to a power that we must face was voted away from him and out of his hands. There comes a time when the compensation does not out way the aggravation.

My fellow Republican's I am not a trader, But it is time for him to go.

Now on the voter fraud allegations. I would have to agree. A transparent and fair investigation needs to take place. My feeling is that some sort of fraud has been taking place here in this election and other elections. And I think its an electronic voter fraud type going down. I think later in the Biden Presidency it will be revealed. Something is going to surface.

There plenty of rising stars coming up to get behind for real Republican fundamental politics.

1.) Tim Scott, the first black Republican senator. This guy is great!

2.) Ted Cruz.

3.) Trey Gowdy. Though he says his running for an office days are all but over. I do not buy that.

4.) Rep. Vernon Jones.

5.) Sen. Jeff Flake.

6.) Natalie Harp. She looks real promising!

7.) Gen. Mattis is talking about a possible run.

8.) Mitt Romney

9.) Gov. Jim Justice. I really like! W.V.

10.) Gov. Doug Burgum.

A few dozen more I could name. The point is we have some serious talent and people with major leadership skills and abilities on the horizon. The party goes beyond one man.

Mr. Trump, Please move along now for the good of the party. Its Okay! You have done your best! Be a man. Accept the loss. Do it for the country and the party.

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Trump was only the third president to be impeached, out of 45. Trump is the only the fourth president to lose after a single term since Ford.

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@Jimizo,

I am sorry I disagree about your comment on Ted Cruz. He is a good man. He is far less corrupt and passionate about the country. He is still a bit young and needs a bit more experience, But he or Rubio could be POTUS in 2024. One things for sure. It will not be Biden and Harris. The whole Obama/ Biden Clinton Trump/Busch era is at an end. End of 2024. Something new is coming!

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There will be no changes in Biden becoming the 46th

but there seems to be changes in the house of representatives and the Democrats don’t look too happy about it and at this rate, there will be changes and not to the Democrats liking.

Sen. Jeff Flake.

Gen. Mattis is talking about a possible run.

Mitt Romney

i’m sorry but neither of these three individuals have a chance at winning the presidency, they won’t, too many conservatives don’t like them and they ticked off too many people, so it’s not going to happen, but for the others too early to tell, I think people in general are really tired of establishment politicians especially on the Republican side, so it might be really hard for most of these people, in all honesty.

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Trump was only the third president to be impeached, out of 45.

and acquitted.

Clinton was impeached as well

Trump is the only the fourth president to lose after a single term since Ford.

Uh-huh and we know why.....

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Trump was only the third president to be impeached, out of 45. Trump is the only the fourth president to lose after a single term since Ford.

Trump is the first president to have been investigated by an administration of the opposing party during an election based on unfounded and unverifiable claims of collusion with an enemy state based on documents generated by the opposing parties political campaign and national committee. It would be karma if Biden is the second.

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Everyone takes this virus seriously, but that does not excuse the fact that liberals are using this pandemic as the hypocrites they are to say trump Republicans have no sympathy and yet they are the very people that are profiting off the scare tactic to use to push people to vote a certain way, so you can easily make the argument that liberals are using this pandemic for their political advantage and that’s not an understatement. 

This is just a hypocritical statement if one believes Trump has done America right by his actions toward controlling the coronavirus, because his inability to take the virus seriously has led to America having the most cases and deaths, worldwide due to COVID-19 and directly caused by the President's inactions.

'EVERYONE' must be your loose term, because as everyone who isn't your alternative 'everyone' knows, Trump ignored the virus as a hoax, said it was no more worse than the common flu and is still promoting reckless action by the American people thru Thanksgiving.

He has constantly ignored the serious nature of the coronavirus, so please, do not tell us 'everyone' is taking it seriously, when the President, and anyone who supports his policies toward COVID-19, has not taken it as seriously as any sane President should and would.

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but there seems to be changes in the house of representatives and the Democrats don’t look too happy about it and at this rate, there will be changes and not to the Democrats liking

The democrats control the house and may in Jan have control of the senate. There are 88 senate seats up for election in 2022.

Your previous predictions have wrong haywire.

Republicans already thinking about 2028? Kamal Harris will become the first Asian -black female president. 2028 Ivanka Trump the first white female? Don't think so.

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Tea Party Ted is a loser.

Not as much as Trump, who to be fair, is actually a Loser, but still a loser nonetheless.

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It would be karma if Biden is the second.

Keep your dreams. You guys are batting zero for 1000 on the conspiracy theories.

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Trump's impeachment was proved but voted down by the republican led senate. They voted on party lines, not on the evidence.

Still you have 2028 to look forward to.

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@Slickdrifter: 5.) Sen. Jeff Flake.

He is like Chuck Schumer’s little brother. Republicans despise his politics. His future is on the Left - if the Dems will accept a Benedict Arnold in their ranks.

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he also didn’t tell people not to go out on the streets he didn’t say anything

So not telling someone not to do something is the same as urging them to do it?

That must be an americanism, one I hadn't heard before.

I will try out my new language skills by emphatically not telling you to not grow up.

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I did not.

You literally said "speaking of Joe".

I never said such a thing and shame of liberals to constantly play this game.

I'm not a liberal.

And you made light of a serious situation. Here:

what else is trump supposed to do just stand there with binoculars surveying the nation in overlooking it and wait for the days to take on and do nothing, you guys are funny. Lol

The Lol tic shows that like your leader, there's no empathy whatsoever.

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The democrats control the house

Lost 11 seats, that’s very bad and not one Republican had to defend theirs in California gaining three Republican seats which is astonishing when you think about that it is a one party rule State, Democrats very careful they may do the same thing they did in 2010

and may in Jan have control of the senate.

May, but now it’s looking less likely they will.

Your previous predictions have wrong haywire.

No, I was right in 2010 and 2014

Republicans already thinking about 2028.

2024 to be exact. At the way the Democrats are going right now and especially what AOC wants to do, the country will be so wrecked, they will be begging for Trump and for Republicans to come back, so I think Biden should have it and let him run it to the ground and tax people to the hilt in economy where people already are facing massive bread lines and unemployment

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@zichi: There will be no changes in Biden becoming the 46th.

I agree, but like the empty Mueller Investigation that’s not the point of the lawsuits. Politics ain’t bean bag - the Dems proved that since 2016.

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Tea Party Ted is a loser.

If history teaches us anything. It is that the majority of Democratic voters turn to insults when a political rivals look promising.

Cruz is no loser. Ted Cruz is a consummate insider in Washington once hated by so many. No longer!

A graduate of both Princeton University and Harvard Law School​, he ​​has worked for all three branches of the federal government. Some loser. LOL.

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bass4funk

No, I was right in 2010 and 2014

you posted Trump would never become president. You then posted for months Biden would never win.

Biden will be the 46th. Harris will be the 47th. That takes us to 2028. Predictions there.

The house result

Democrats 222. Republicans 207. 218 for control of the house. Democrats lost 10 seats, gained 3. Republicans lost 3 seats and gained 11.

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you posted Trump would never become president.

Not because I did like him, but I thought he would lose to Hillary, but given what the last administration did to the nation, we now know people started to reject the establishment.

You then posted for months Biden would never win.

and he probably wouldn’t have, but all of a sudden the entire law-enforcement that supported Trump, all of a sudden just decided to vote for Biden at the last minute? Sure....lol.

Biden will be the 46th.

One term for sure.

> Democrats 222. Republicans 207. 218 for control of the house. Democrats lost 10 seats,

11 seats, the GOP picked up 3 in CA so I agree with AOC, it’s not really the time to celebrate and Dems really can’t considering what will probably happen in two years, they will lose the house and if they lose the house and Republicans control the Senate, it’s pretty much over for Biden and his agenda.

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@zichi.

Biden Harris. One term. One term only. That's what you are getting.

Look what Biden picked for his cabinet. a Bunch of Obama re-treads. You think people will not remember how they suffered un Obamas administration?

African Americans and Hispanics are flipping at record numbers. My prediction is your man is going down in 2024.

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If history teaches us anything. It is that the majority of Democratic voters turn to insults when a political rivals look promising.

Any links to back up this statement? And I don't mean the gas lighting carry on we see on various sites and comments sections. Some actual, factual historical evidence. Many thanks.

Cruz is no loser. Ted Cruz is a consummate insider in Washington once hated by so many. No longer!

His flip-flopping, homophobic bigotry and moral cowardice doesn't inspire. I don't hate him, just don't trust him.

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My prediction is your man is going down in 2024.

No president is my man

I think there is a strong possibility Biden will stand down before 2024 making Harris the 47th president.

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bass4funk

Not because I did like him, but I thought he would lose to Hillary, but given what the last administration did to the nation, we now know people started to reject the establishment.

So I was correct your predictions on Trump and Biden went haywire.

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Actual cases of fraud:

Robert Lynn, a Republican voter, was charged with forgery and interference for requesting an absentee ballot for his dead mother.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporter-arrested-requesting-absentee-234948543.html

In Chester County, a 71 year old man who is a registered Republican, cast two votes, one for himself and the other for his son.

https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/11/voter-fraud-charges-filed-pa-registered-republican/

So, I guess all of you are right. There were cases of fraud.

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it appears that many votes that were counted do not meet the definition of a legal vote. For example, if the voting address is not a residence, that vote is illegal. if you moved more than 30 days prior, that vote is illegal. If you claimed you are confined to your home as reason to vote by mail without ID confirmation but you are not actually confined to your home, that vote is illegal.

it doesnt have to be widespread nor does it have to be proven that its enough to change the result. just that fraud happened. which is anything that is against the law,

The above happens in all elections and effects voting from both GOP and DEM voters. There are a handful of votes that do not effect the outcome. But since the above happened somewhere some say Biden should not be president. By the same token, Trump should not have been president in 2016. it is a two sided coin applicable to both sides.

No mass voter fraud has been found let alone proven, claimed without evidence it is a fraudulent claim. Trump is guilty of fraud and continues his fraud on a daily basis, or whenever he tweets.

Nothing will get to the SC so holding hope court cases will make it there is fruitless.

Faithless voting for EC will not happen and if it does it will not be on the scale required to change the outcome of the election.

Trumps turkey is cooked and he will be ex president in 54 days. 54 long long long days.

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Lost 11 seats, that’s very bad and not one Republican had to defend theirs in California gaining three Republican seats which is astonishing when you think about that it is a one party rule State, Democrats very careful they may do the same thing they did in 2010

Wow, so no fraud by the computer. Maybe it was fraud by the Republicans controlling to computer to get more seats for the House. Then again, Democrats aren't going to stoop so low as to whine and complain and present frivolous cases without any evidence of fraud.

Again, it has to be said, that as much as you rightists want to say that the Democrats were complaining about a rigged election in 2016, the fact remains, Hilary Clinton conceded on November 9th, and Obama and Biden gave a tour of the White House and eased the transition for Trump, just like his predecessors. He even left the playbook for a pandemic, but Trump shredded it, and along with everything left in place. The same playbook that stopped Ebola from getting out of control in America.

It's now November 27th, and still not even close to a concession by Trump. In fact, Trump is going out of his way to interfere and cause as much damage as he can, which doesn't only hurt the Biden administration, but all Americans.

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I also think the Left will want him to resign so they can get another true believer Marxist in the oval office.

It certainly would be nice to have a few tenets of Marxism involved, but seeing as there are no Marxists in the Democrat camp - no, the "squad" don't count - that's highly unlikely.

The hyperbole from traumatized Trump supporters is a source of amusement today.

I'm guessing it's like finding out your stash is way down and you're suppliers have been incarcerated for the forseeable future.

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Any links to back up this statement?

Yes, 4 years of Trump bashing historical and irrefutable facts.

His flip-flopping, homophobic bigotry and moral cowardice doesn't inspire.

Obama flipped flopped on gays that didn’t stop the love for the guy either.

So I was correct your predictions on Trump and Biden went haywire.

Not by normal standards.

I think there is a strong possibility Biden will stand down before 2024

For the nations sake if that’s the gas, I sure hope not.

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and he probably wouldn’t have

If it weren't for those pesky electorate. Bah!

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"Blacklabel",

I don't get it ........

"yes, so wait and see what happens to the "calls for unity" once Trump is announced the winner."

Still day-dreaming? He won't be called the "wiener", eh winner ... he is out and gone.

What does it take to make people finally understand this?

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bass4funk

11 seats, the GOP picked up 3 in CA 

In the 2016 house election, the republicans lost 6 seats. In the 2018 election, the republicans lost 42 seats.

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"Trump says he will leave White House if Biden wins Electoral College vote"

The problem I have with that, is Trump has lied before. In fact, 20,000 times since being in office.

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No, because we’re tired of these Democrat leaders telling us what to do, but they violate the rules and then try to come up with some stupid excuse why they didn’t wear one.

The man-child needs a good hard slap*

> I would reserve it for House Democrats actually.

@bass

Can you get past this 'liberals / Democrats' bashing? On far, far fewer posts do I see people using the terms 'conservatives / Republicans,' but you resort to these blanket labels almost every time in your exchanges.

And try to stop demonizing the other side. You sound more like a diehard sports fan who hates the other team and can say nothing good about them...until they join 'your' team.

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Vote counting software used in 28 states.

"Following the 2020 United States presidential election, Donald Trump and some other right-wing personalities amplified the hoax originated by the proponents of the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory that Dominion Voting Systems had been compromised, resulting in millions of votes intended for Trump either being deleted or going to rival Joe Biden. Trump was citing the pro-Trump OANN media outlet, which itself claimed to cite a report from Edison Research, an election monitoring group. Edison Research said that they did not write such a report, and that they "have no evidence of any voter fraud.""

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In the 2016 house election, the republicans lost 6 seats. In the 2018 election, the republicans lost 42 seats.

I know and I always said the pendulum swings both ways and Now that Biden and the radicals want to implement their socialist agenda, they’re going to lose so many houses and not to mention a lot of people are not happy with this election, so I expected them to lose more seats as we approach of 2022 especially at the rate that they’ve lost seats this time around.

....and just wait for the gubernatorial race is to start.

same software used in 26 states including red ones.

for some reason in the blue states where the voting stopped by and started to lead all of a sudden when the starting resumed...hmmmm...

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When Trump came to office he blasted Obama for playing golf. Surely Trump has spent more time on the course in 4 years than Obama did in 8.

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Can you get past this 'liberals / Democrats' bashing?

Not bashing, just telling it like it is.

And try to stop demonizing the other side.

But For four years we’ve been asking liberals to do that and they didn’t, now we should stop? Seriously? Lol

really doesn't work.

Didn’t stop the left from bashing now did it?

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Trump saying voter fraud doesn't make it true. In fact if anything, with his history of lying his bottom off, it under cuts claims.

Fact: There was no organized voter fraud. Zip, nada, none.

Pulling off what Trump claims would require the coordination of untold hundreds in multiple states OF BOTH PARTIES.

And if there was voter fraud, how come GOP senate candidates did so well? Wouldn't the fraudsters have thrown the elections at the state level as well?

This is the death rattle of the angry uneducated white American male.

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P. Smith

Does Trump do anything beyond play golf, tweet, and watch TV? Laziest president ever.

I thought you hate him, so should you not approve if him being "lazy", so he can not enact more of his bad policies, such as:

best economy ever, an end to stupid foreign wars, peace deal with Israel and UEA, NK propagada chan ged from nuclear war to peace, HK democracy act, finally support for Taiwan, standing up to China, bringing manufacturing back from China, stopping CRT indoctrination, withdrawing from corrupt UN organizations, at least tring to withdraw from the Afghanistan mess.... shall I go on?

Go figure.

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bass4funk

not to mention a lot of people are not happy with this election, so I expected them to lose more seats as we approach of 2022 especially at the rate that they’ve lost seats this time around.

But since you did mention.

Biden 80 million votes. Trump 74 million. Trump lost by a greater margin this time than in 2016, when again he claimed voter fraud.

More voters happy with the election results than unhappy.

or some reason in the blue states where the voting stopped by and started to lead all of a sudden when the starting resumed...hmmmm...

The postal vote favored Biden and were counted after the in person votes.

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