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Trump threatens to deploy military unless states halt violent protests; Floyd's brother pleads for peace

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Trump told the nation’s governors in a video conference that they they “look like fools” for not deploying even more National Guard troops. “Most of you are weak,” he said.

That's rich! This is coming from a man who is literally hiding out in the basement of the WH, with all of the lights turned off. But what else could you expect from draft dodger, who got of having to go to Vietnam by complaining that his feet hurt! What a coward!

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Quality leadership there from the prez. It’s weird how a man who puts forth such a feeling of hope and togetherness has the country burning down around him to the point that they’ve had to evacuate him.

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Biden said hate emerges “when you have somebody in power who breathes oxygen into the hate.”

From his bunker while tweeting. Can anyone explain why Trump continues to throw fuel on the fires. Or is he once again using the media to help distract from the 107,000+ virus deaths and the severely damaged economy with millions of Americans unemployed and being made homeless while having to wait in food lines. On his watch. While he and his fellow 'elite' are running the country.

The worst possible leader any time, especially during a crisis. He's shown he's a failed war president. In a war he has to take some responsibility for starting and maintaining.

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It's time for the men of America to stand up and take their streets back not only from the thugs you smash windows and hide behind bandanas but the thugs who smash faces with batons and hide behind riot gear.

Fathers, grandfathers, brothers and local good guys.

Stand up for your country and your neighborhood.

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Trump is a failure as a leader and a coward as a man. No wonder he's telling others to go 'get tough.' After all, he wouldn't know about tough if it came up and barked in his face.

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Seems like the psyop is working well. I hope it's worth the price to you guys. Trade Trump in for a police state.

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Washington Gov Jay Inslee, a Democrat, dismissed Trump's comments as the “rantings of an insecure man trying to look strong after building his entire political career on racism.”

Great deflection. Now is not the time. Although Trump has failed to appear on tv or on twitter to qualify the anarchy or unify the country, dems are in no position to say squat. Their relaxed attitude, which is really virtue signaling, is an appalling view of the USA under future democratic control where no one is responsible for their own actions, everyone is a victim of some sort, wrong and right are not distinguished, and all and sundry is chalked up to moral relativism.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential candidate, vowed to address institutional racism in his first 100 days in office. He met in person with black leaders in Delaware and also held a virtual meeting with big-city mayors.

This clown doesn't speak English; he speaks cliche-ish. He'll say anything to get a vote when in reality, if you check his record, he's one of the worst offenders against black people; and there's not a worse choice for a president as the USA tries to move forward.

Mayor Frey needs to step down. He abandoned his post and let Minneapolis burn, and set the precedent for the other cities to burn, just to appear to be "a good white person who understands."

These white liberals and leftist ideology will be the nail in the coffin.

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It’s not about President Trump!

Floyd’s brother hit the nail on the head.

“Let’s switch it up, y’all. Let’s switch it up. Do this peacefully, please"

“If I’m not over here messing up my community, then what are you all doing?” .“You all are doing nothing. Because that’s not going to bring my brother back at all.”

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Seems like the psyop is working well. I hope it's worth the price to you guys. Trade Trump in for a police state.

This was the inevitable result of hiring a troll for the office of president.

The people wanted to burn down America. "Drain the swamp" is how they phrased it.

Well, America is literally burning.

Good thing the unifier-in-chief is out there bringing the people together in unity.

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White police, Black police, Yellow police, Blue police, Green police, fat police , Skinny Police. Shaved Police ...... what a joke.... In the rest of the world There is Only "POLICE"....

Here that Police man did a crime.

Why Trump should be accused for that? All the police force in the USA is under Donald Trump??? Whoop... USA is a federal nation. Each state is almost like nation. Police force are under state control...... The left and the fake Liberals and Antifa, Democrats, Chinese spy, Soros all joined together to attack Trump for political gains. SHAME ON YOU..

If you want to protest then go and protest your state governors... Or go to school to learn history and geography.

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Trump told the nation’s governors in a video conference that they they “look like fools” for not deploying even more National Guard troops. “Most of you are weak,” he said.

I assume Trump was cowering in his bunker while doing all of the tough talk.

Wow. Spoken by the biggest coward and the weakest man on the planet. Spoken by a despicable excuse for a man who in the face of adversity and always finds someone else to blame for his actions. Spoken by a man who will not accept responsibility for anything. Spoken by a man that cannot run the White House much less a state. Vote blue and get this piece of cowardly *** out of the government and back to NY where he can be indicted.

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Trump, the same guy that called Floyd's brother and didn't even let him speak.

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Well I do have to say, it's taken over three years, but I'm finally tired of Trump's "winning".

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Washington Gov Jay Inslee, a Democrat, dismissed Trump's comments as the “rantings of an insecure man trying to look strong after building his entire political career on racism.”

Meanwhile, the rest of the country can dismiss Democrat Jay Inslee's lunatic rants as those of another bitter Democrat who will do, or say, anything to distract from the fact that these riots are occurring in large, Democrat-controlled cities.

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"Trump told the nation’s governors in a video conference that they they “look like fools” for not deploying even more National Guard troops. “Most of you are weak,” he said."

Says the guy who headed for straight for his bunker the moment things started getting uncomfortable.

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Here's a man who knows how to unify. Contrast his message with Trump's:

https://www.facebook.com/tanksgoodnews/videos/585480255425916/

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Meanwhile, the rest of the country can dismiss Democrat Jay Inslee's lunatic rants as those of another bitter Democrat who will do, or say, anything to distract from the fact that these riots are occurring in large, Democrat-controlled cities.

Should they get back to focusing on Trump's war on Fact-Checking?

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Strangerland - This was the inevitable result of hiring a troll for the office of president.

This hatred is a direct result of the Democrat Party's "resist" movement which attacked the Trump presidency before he was even President. With the assistance of their usual pet media outlets, of course.

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That's rich! This is coming from a man who is literally hiding out in the basement of the WH,

With a mob like this going on, NO President would be out, the secret service wouldn’t chance it, there’s no way.

with all of the lights turned off. But what else could you expect from draft dodger,

I don’t see what that has to do with anything, no big deal.

who got of having to go to Vietnam by complaining that his feet hurt! What a coward!

Many, many people did including Clinton.

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Trump's lost even Republican governors:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/charlie-baker-donald-trump-governor-call/index.html

And police chiefs, one of which flat out said that Trump needs to 'keep his mouth shut.'

https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/01/houston-police-chief-art-acevedo-trump-mouth-shut-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/

Trump doesn't know leadership, he doesn't know how to unify, he doesn't know how to be President. The only thing he knows is fear and bullying... which has failed him this time.

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This hatred is a direct result of the Democrat Party's "resist" movement which attacked the Trump presidency before he was even President.

Which was a response to eight years of obstruction of Obama based a policy of "oppose anything the black man suggests out of principle".

With the assistance of their usual pet media outlets, of course.

Yeah, with the assistance of your fake-news, the most MS of Ms, Fox "news".

Got anymore qanon theories for us?

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These Democrat governors as always allow these criminals to run amok and destroy their cities, wouldn’t happen in my town. If you want to quell the unrest at this point you need to take a calculated and harsh response otherwise you will have complete anarchy, a destroyed country and still the people will never get what they want.

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Anyways, I don't see Trump recovering from this by November. He's proven himself a complete and abject failure at dealing with both the crises of this year - Covid and Floyd George based unrest.

Oh, why can't Obama be president right now? Everyone, even the trolls who just don't want to admit it, knows he would have dealt with both these crises like a leader. Not like the current hider-in-chief.

Hell, even little Bush would have dealt better with these crises than Trump. He really stepped up in the period immediately after 9-11. Trump has never once, in 3.5 years, managed anything close to that.

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"[Trump] added: “You’ve got to arrest people, you have to track people, you have to put them in jail for 10 years and you’ll never see this stuff again.”

Yes, let's start with the three other police officers, responsible for that man's death, who currently are free "men".

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Trump's lost even Republican governors:

You're taking it out of context. They think that Trump should be more empathetic in his condemnation of these rioters for worries that these mobs could come to their cities which they would then have to resort to heavier hand tactics and they don’t want to do that, so they caution the President in his words.

Trump doesn't know leadership, he doesn't know how to unify,

I disagree, you can’t reason with criminals and I’m not talking about the protesters that have a legitimate issue and want to talk and have their voices heard peacefully. When you have the thugs trying to do everything they can to destroy civility and tear down the government, why should they listen?

he doesn't know how to be President. The only thing he knows is fear and bullying... which has failed him this time.

Yes, liberals want the President to do exactly what these liberal governors are doing, nothing.

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They do look and act like fools. This PC correct society has lost its direction. PEACEFUL PROTESTING is your right, Rioting and looting is not.

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Anyways, I don't see Trump recovering from this by November. He's proven himself a complete and abject failure at dealing with both the crises of this year - Covid and Floyd George based unrest.

I disagree, Trump remarkably is still at around 45% approval and that says a lot as an incumbent it says that people do see a clear distinction between the thugs and the protesters and want the President to take decisive action and he does need to do that ASAP.

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bass:  the protesters that have a legitimate issue and want to talk and have their voices heard peacefully.

Like Colin Kaepernick did?

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GOD, please bless America!

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Like Colin Kaepernick did?

During a game? No. Do that on your own time.

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This was the inevitable result of hiring a troll for the office of president.

Which was the inevitable result of a government that marginalized and frustrated so many people, which was the inevitable result of etc. etc.

Past is etched in stone. Now is now, when you can create the future. For the world, and for the US in particular, it's not a good future being created. It's madness, and millions could be killed over the next few decades before people wake up. If even then.

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Anyways, I don't see Trump recovering from this by November. 

I disagree. This will sweep Trump back into the White House with little opposition. People who were democratic supporters and sympathetic to "the cause" are waking up to burned out businesses and neighborhoods and looted shops that happened because the democrats wanted to virtue signal; they will most likely switch sides. People may hate Trump but they hate lawlessness even more. And it's clear that's what the democrats represent. Opening your own business takes hard work, responsibility, and a sense of wright and wrong. All of which the dems oppose. To dems, everyone's a victim of some form of oppression. These people were sympathetic to the cause, but seeing all their hard work and businesses go up in smoke won't go well for the dems. All Trump's got to do is exploit this. Lately it's almost as if dems are working for the Trump campaign. They've given it so much fodder.

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They do look and act like fools. This PC correct society has lost its direction. PEACEFUL PROTESTING is your right, Rioting and looting is not.

Exactly! I couldn’t agree more.

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During a game? No. Do that on your own time.

So peaceful protests, but out of sight so you don't have to see it. Gotcha.

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It is unsurprising that the most divisive and unpleasant leader in modern American history has led to the worst civil unrest in over 50 years.

This man of little talent and no charm now has to sort this out in top of the disaster he has made of coronavirus.

H can be is only double down on his core far right Christian fundamentalist supporters. They may be the loudest, but are there enough to see him to victory in November?

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The Ballot or The Bullet.If in November,white America does not do the right thing and vote out this most despicable of presidents,then the wrong direction might have to happen to make things better.

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MSM fake news. Now you believe the polls. Yeah right

Consistent For the last 5 months and they’re an accumulation of all US national polls, liberal ones included.

H can be is only double down on his core far right Christian fundamentalist supporters. They may be the loudest, but are there enough to see him to victory in November?

Libertarians, gun supporters...particularly now, suburban people could very well.

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Anger aslocal police union chief calls George Floyd a "violent criminal".

Lt. Bob Kroll president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis defended the four officers involved in Floyd's death.

Disgraceful.

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it's not a good world being created

Posters who pushed for Trump must see what he and his fellow 'elite' are doing to grab more for themselves and leave nothing much more than drips of trickle for the rest.

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With a mob like this going on, NO President would be out, the secret service wouldn’t chance it, there’s no way.

No other sitting US president hid in bunker while protests were going on. The US was under attack twice: Pearl Harbor and 911, and neither times did the sitting president hide in a bunker. This is an act of a cowardly child who has no plan of action.

The president should be on TV every fricken night addressing the nation and trying to de-escalate the situation, much like Mayor Cuomo did for the corona virus.

I don’t see what that has to do with anything, no big deal.

This is what people to give the impression that no one is home. It's basically saying, go away and leave me alone..for a president, that is a big deal.

Just in: And I am not kidding about this...you can you look it up. This fool just ordered full military force against the protesters, which is again unprecedented. If you don't get what that means, I will tell you. This means he just sent the US Military (people are suppose to protect US citizens) to take deadly force against US Citizens. He is OUT OF CONTROL!!

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As a white American I'm tired of my taxes going to the self serving prison system that houses minorities a lot more than whites for the same exact crimes. These riots are bad, but I understand the message and hope for long term positive outcome. I hope what results is the reduction of incarcerations of blacks compared to whites for stupid reasons. Again I'm white and will never go to prison but I'm being shafted since my tax dollars are being wasted on this wasteful minority incarceration on top of the TrumpCare shaft (along with the ineffective and wasteful Trump wall). Trump has to go and I'd be fine with a decent Republican like fat boy Christie. I wish Trump would quit but he will never leave even if he loses the general election.

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In his speech, he just called on people to invoke the 2nd amendment! INSANITY!!!!!! DAMMIT He's trying to start a CIVIL WAR

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anything to distract from the fact that these riots are occurring in large, Democrat-controlled cities.

Riots are happening in ‘Republican’ cities too. Take your blinders off.

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"AMERICAN CARNAGE". Promises made, promises kept? Trump has finally unmasked himself as an empty suit, a cowering, cowardly troll reduced to lobbing incendiary tweets from his bunker. Americans will never forget this hardest of history lessons. They must now turn a new page and reboot society where respect will be shown to all citizens equally. RIP all the innocent victims of Amerikan "law'n'order".

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No other sitting US president hid in bunker while protests were going on.

Oh, stop, we never had an out of control rioting mob like this, if we did, it would be irresponsible for any SS agent to allow any President to step out and engage the people, that wouldn’t happen.

The US was under attack twice: Pearl Harbor and 911, and neither times did the sitting president hide in a bunker. This is an act of a cowardly child who has no plan of action.

Are you serious? Hatta Japanese! been on US soil doing the Pearl Harbor attack, of course he wouldn’t have been outside, what on earth are you talking about? ROFL!

The president should be on TV every fricken night addressing the nation

no, he should not be, because if he did then people think it’s just words and nothing else, it would be a waste of time, it should have meaning..

This is what people to give the impression that no one is home. It's basically saying, go away and leave me alone..for a president, that is a big deal.

Yes, rioters and looters should go away, far, far away.

Just in: And I am not kidding about this...you can you look it up. This fool just ordered full military force against the protesters,

Great!

which is again unprecedented. If you don't get what that means, I will tell you. This means he just sent the US Military (people are suppose to protect US citizens) to take deadly force against US Citizens. He is OUT OF CONTROL!!

I would fault him if he didn’t send the military in, it’s enough and you need to crush this as soon as you can.

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The country has been beset by angry demonstrations for the past week in some of the most widespread racial unrest in the U.S. since the 1960s

Ah.... the sixties. Anybody here old enough to remember them? If you do, and were paying attention, you might recall that the race based riots back then didn't do much of anything to usher in a wave of progressive policies. In fact, they were probably one of the driving forces behind the election and then reelection of one Richard Milhous Nixon. Nixon carried 49 states in 1972 as American voters shifted their political alignment solidly to the right, this as a direct result of the social and racial unrest that was unleashed on the American public by violent activists.

This is not a theory (conspiracy or otherwise) but the result of numerous studies examining the problem. A very recent study out of Princeton University ( as reported in the NewYorker Magazine) reports that, historically, race riots in America have not resulted in a shift in public opinion towards a more liberal progressive attitude but have, in fact, had the opposite effect with a clear backlash in public opinion and a major shift to the right. This study found that non-violent demonstrations did not have this effect. It's the rioting and looting that set the attitude shift in motion. It should be noted that neither Princeton nor the NewYorker are bastions of right wing ideology and this report was issued as a warning of what could happen in November.

If history can tell us anything about what is happening now, it might just be that the antifa and BLM activist passing out bricks and hit lists of who and what is to be attacked might as well be passing out red pills and MAGA hats.

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Now Trump has announced that he's going to send the army in. No longer the police or the national guard, but he is planning to use the federal army against his own citizens.

Another major step towards full-blown fascism.

It's taken three years, but can anyone be that surprised that his Presidency would end like this? His chaotic administration has ended up with chaos on the streets and the men who signed up to protect the country from foreign threats are now suppressing internal protests.

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If you remove the ability for the people to protest peacefully, you ensure they will protest with violence. The current protests are a direct result of unreasonable, unforgiving, uncompassionate right-wing aggression, refusing to address any issues, and instead just saying “shut up”.

Trump is not responsible for these protests. But he’s been throwing gasoline on the fire since he became president, after he built up the fire with his birther kindling.

And now, he has no come how to deal with the issue other than to turn America into a police state. Because he’s got zero credibility as a leader, and therefore does not have the ability to convince the people to stop. He must impose it through force.

And does anyone think that anyone will feel that the problem has been resolved whatsoever? Nope.

This is what you get for electing an incompetent leader only-trumpers. This is a direct result of that vote you cast. Good job, you helped burn down your country.

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Oh, stop, we never had an out of control rioting mob like this, if we did, it would be irresponsible for any SS agent to allow any President to step out and engage the people, that wouldn’t happen.

The SS? An unfortunate abbreviation, but perhaps unintentionally revealing.

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Those saying Trump is a coward.... Just remember, he would be out on the streets dealing with the rioters in person if he could!

Sadly he has a longstanding medical condition in his heels which prevents him from doing so. Strict doctors orders.. otherwise....... :)

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Once again, in a time of crisis, Trump’s public statements are vituperative and divisive.

Whereas Terrence Floyd, an ordinary guy from Minneapolis who’s lost his brother to violence, talks peace.

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I was watching the former mayor of NYC, and his response to the rioting in his city. He said during his mayorship, there were no riots, because there would be consequences, but you look at these Dem controlled cities like ATL etc, the re occuring response is blame Trump and crying and pleading for the protesters to stop.

Perhaps some good will finally come from this like laws where police can be prosectued faster, but the catch is, if you allow criminals to operate freely, and when they are caught and then they can prosecute the prosecutors...more Dem logic.

I find it interesting that this DeBlasio guy, during the initial stages of the corona pandemic, was telling MSM that he did not want to close the schools, or the city. Now this guy, after his countless blame Trump rants, lack of ventilator speeches, has done a 180 and is now informing us with his deep wisdom that keeping things locked down...well its the new norm.

The logic is baffeling because all of these Dem leaders, I have seen, are encouraging people to get out and protest, but other things come out of their mouths, depending on what day it is.

So, to go to work, school or other beneficial things for society, that is not allowed, but to go loot inventory that does not belong to you, spray grafitti, cause millions? worth of dollars of property damage, that is ok. No need to shelter in place if you want to do that..your feelings are important and your antics benefit us all.

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I would fault him if he didn’t send the military in, it’s enough and you need to crush this as soon as you can.

The military should NEVER...I repeat NEVER be used to turn against its own people. Only dictators and fascists turns its military against its own people (see Hitler, Hussein, Gaddafi etc....) Where are they now...yes...DEAD! History never sides with dictators! Didn't learn anything from history??

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can anyone be that surprised that his Presidency would end like this? His chaotic administration has ended up with chaos on the streets and the men who signed up to protect the country from foreign threats are now suppressing internal protests.

Trump’s America is literally worse right now that the rhetoric I used before he was elected to describe how his presidency would turn out.

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 "...put them in jail for 10 years and you’ll never see this stuff again.”

Judges need to frame Trump's two cent's worth of "legal advice" and put it on the wall of their offices to remind them of their duty when a corrupt, criminal ex-president comes to stand before them at the bar of justice.

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Whereas Terrence Floyd, an ordinary guy from Minneapolis who’s lost his brother to violence, talks peace

He is asking to stop the destruction.

History has a way of repeating itself...if your too dumb to learn from past mistakes

Remember....."cant we all get along?" I do. dude was beat senslessly by out of control thug cops. Reaction? Weeks of burning and looting. What did that accomplish? Any new laws or police, city council accountablity?

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Trump has sealed his legacy with his response to the riots and the coronavirus. As a leader he’ll never be forgotten. He’s to forever be known as the worst president in American history.

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Remember....."cant we all get along?" I do. dude was beat senslessly by out of control thug cops. Reaction? Weeks of burning and looting. What did that accomplish? Any new laws or police, city council accountablity?

Nothing changed, because the stance of the right is “you looted, therefore we don’t even care what you were protesting”, ensuring that the problem has zero resolution whatsoever. Rinse and repeat.

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Now Trump has announced that he's going to send the army in. No longer the police or the national guard, but he is planning to use the federal army against his own citizens.

Another major step towards full-blown fascism.

Of course, thats real leadership. Should we sit back and watch more precincts burn? buildings destroyed?

How much more should be allowed? Its not a step towards fascism, instead its preventing anarchy by individuals who cant control themselves.

These domestic terrorist are actually puttying the US at risk and if Trump has to do what useless governess cant do, it shows us allot about their leadership. These enemies are going from city to city, pillaging and burning.

Your saying that should be allowed?

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Peaceful protesters in Washington DC have had rubber bullets fired at them to make way for Trump to do a photo opportunity in front of a church.

He has lost his mind. If he illegally orders the military to fire in civilians, there military should uphold the law and refuse, as they are legally obliged to do.

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Trump threatens to deploy military 

Leaders encourage. Dictators threaten.

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Of course, thats real leadership. Should we sit back and watch more precincts burn? buildings destroyed? 

It’s all he’s left with, because as a result of his failed leadership, no one will respect him as a leader. So he has to dictate that everyone stop through force.

A real leader, like Obama, would have been our there providing a strong message of togetherness, providing the people with a sense of confidence. Trump destroyed any confidence in his leadership, through never having actually lead.

So the military is his only resort.

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How many more murders, assaults, and black businesses are we going to watch burn down before Dems do something about the mess they created in America's cities? Do something! A good number of the rioters are not even black. There are young white rioters all over television going into black communities and throwing molotov cocktails at police cars and smashing the windows out of businesses. Do something Dems! You are standing around fiddling with your fingers pointing at Trump while your cities are crumbling around you.

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A real leader, like Obama,

Obama sure was a leader. He came through on one of his biggest campaign promises: to fundamentally change America.

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Obama sure was a leader. He came through on one of his biggest campaign promises: to fundamentally change America.

HA! Perfect!

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How many more murders, assaults, and black people are we going to watch shot before Repubs do something about the mess they created in America's cities?

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Trump threatens to deploy military 

As he should, everybody has the right to peaceful protest, you have no right to destroy and loot and set fire to businesses. If it cannot be handled at a local level then the federal level with surely put an end to it as they are now.

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Trump walks to historic St. John's Church outside White House as protests rage

https://www.axios.com/trump-st-johns-white-house-protests-953044b8-fab9-425c-94bf-ebcd81f929c7.html

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@Strangerland: If you remove the ability for the people to protest peacefully, you ensure they will protest with violence. 

Let me guess - you were denouncing the people protesting the Dem covid lockdowns weren't you? The very act of protesting was considered violent because it would spread the covid virus and kill innocent people. Now the protests and riots are acting as super spreaders and you are upset that someone wants to stop the rioting - not the protesting - just the rioting that is causing more deaths, physical injuries, and damage every night! You are actually arguing against Trump stopping activity that Dems were saying four days ago where killing thousands. This twisted kind of thinking is senseless and reveals only malice.

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If it cannot be handled at a local level then the federal level with surely put an end to it as they are now.

But Americans have 2ANRA to protect from tyranny in times like this. It won't work

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I understand all the rioting is happening in Democrat run states. Wrong?

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Trump is a total joke of an American president. His usage of words toward the governors, on the phone, and in hiding, it's a scene that will live in infamy for its cowardice, a lack of respect, and stupidity. He doesn't bring people together, and he never has. What he does is make the country more binary and more angry.

Instead of messages of peace, all he does his give incendiary words and as the Houston police officer said, trump should keep his mouth shut, he only makes things bad. He promotes the military over the police to control things. Of course, it is what dictators do, and he is a fascist.

In Washington, he hides in a bunker, then wonders why peaceful demonstrations are gathering at the WH, today. Peaceful, but he shoots gas and rubber bullets at them, anyways. He makes things worse by his silly actions. If he had braved up, and not gone all bunker, it's a different day, but he doesn't understand how symbolic it is to hide from his own people. He's a coward who won't face what he must do.

The USA is in trouble like never before, and Trump has lost control. It is nothing not expected from us who know he is, a racist, a bad person, an entitled coward and not fit to be president of the United States of America. The worst leader of the country, in its entire history.

It's terrible the Republican senate couldn't go through with removing him from office after he was impeached, things would be better, today. They're complicit in the disaster of Trump.

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SuperLib: How many more murders, assaults, and black people are we going to watch shot before Repubs do something about the mess they created in America's cities?

Progressives have near total control in all of the cities that are killing innocent black citizens and where rioting and chaos is rampant at this very moment. How did the Repubs cause this carnage? They have no influence to make any changes for the better. It is the Progressives that created these cities as they now exist. The district in which Floyd was killed is represented by one of the most radical Progressives in American politics today - Illhan Omar. The city of Minneapolis is run by a Progressive Mayor, Prosecutor, and police chief. Are you not frustrated by this complete and total failure?

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Zaphod

I understand all the rioting is happening in Democrat run states. Wrong?

Police use tear gas to disperse protesters blocking West 7th Street Bridge in Fort Worth

Sunday marked the third straight day of demonstrations in Dallas and Fort Worth.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/live-blog-dallas-protests-george-floyd-civil-unrest-leaders-curfew-calm-peace/287-89d41e21-9482-4f41-bbfb-f05e84a5a2e6

Over 70 arrested for inciting riot in Dallas; man with machete attacked

https://kvia.com/news/texas/2020/05/30/watch-live-dallas-protests-over-death-of-george-floyd-turn-confrontational-with-police/

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How did the Repubs cause this carnage?

Check out white flight, redlining, urban decay, discrimination in CCRs, etc.

Oh, and the GOP is responsible for all of the poverty, obesity, and lack of education in the rural states, right? They are in charge so it's all on them.

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U.S. President Donald Trump threatened on Monday to deploy the United States military unless states quickly halted the violent protests that have convulsed cities from coast to coast

I'm sure Trump misspoke when he said "US Military" - I'm sure he meant to say Russian Army or Russian military contractors...

It's all part of "The Art of the Deal" with his BFF Putin...

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I understand all the rioting is happening in Democrat run states. Wrong?

I get so tired of the ignorance and narrative. It isn't about which state did what, and it isn't about political parties, it's the big picture. Racism in the United States of America cannot be tolerated.

Racism leads to injustice, and people who keep supporting racism are racist themselves. No one is saying riots are a good thing. It was years of inactivity on incidents that have occurred in the past that repeats itself over and over that has caused this reaction of strong protests.

The idea is to have peaceful reform in the United States, not authoritarian commands from our coward in chief blaming Democrats and anyone who he believes the protestors are the enemy. This is about prejudice and bias against minorities, and the rights people like George Floyd should have, and he should not have been killed by white policemen in a murdering video.

It isn't about cherry picking argument for political reasons.

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Nothing changed, because the stance of the right is “you looted, therefore we don’t even care what you were protesting”, ensuring that the problem has zero resolution whatsoever. Rinse and repeat.

That, like most everything you post, makes no sense. The "right" have not been in charge of these cities for decades now. Oh your saying its the Feds fault?

The district in which Floyd was killed is represented by one of the most radical Progressives in American politics today - Illhan Omar. The city of Minneapolis is run by a Progressive Mayor, Prosecutor, and police chief. Are you not frustrated by this complete and total failure?

Im convinced that close to 90% of dysfuction in the US is caused by these people. If I try to get with or believe in what they spew, it disappoints, every time. That does not mean Im a Repub or hyper conservative but these left people, time after time, prove themselves to be just fringe loons. BTW, where is Nancy and her comrade Adam? Words of encouragement?

The USA is in trouble like never before, and Trump has lost control. It is nothing not expected from us who know he is, a racist, a bad person, an entitled coward and not fit to be president of the United States of America. The worst leader of the country, in its entire history.

The US is in trouble due to a pandemic and lack of leadership at the state level. Its overwhelming the Feds who have to baby sit these people. Now they might have to take away already over worked resources to go clean up what they cant. Trump gave out free money, mobilized the USN comfort on both coast, endured your impeachment harassment, so let me get this straight, he now needs to pay for the destruction caused by your loon domestic terrorist? The leadership of these Dem controlled cities and states is pathetic.

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Obama sure was a leader. He came through on one of his biggest campaign promises: to fundamentally change America.

Whereas with Trump, after four years of MAGA, Americans are a much happier people. Trump can even walk peacefully and in safety to historic St. John's Church outside White House as protests rage, even if he won't ever be able to walk on water.

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History repeats...remember Katrina...and the Dem mayor? Blame them Feds.

Even clowned a general and rode a horse in a parade mocking him

Later, found he was so deep in corruption with all that he had received , ended up in prison

Whatever happened to him? So much crying and care during that pandemic.

Its not racist to call these people out on their incompetence and buffoonery.

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Isn't it amazing how we went from talking about police brutality to now talking about Trump?

Yes, Trump basically just said to comply or get a knee on the neck, but to hell with Trump. The problem is not Trump. Its decades of police brutality and impunity from punishment for it. Keep your eye on the ball people. And remember that Biden is literally a reason things are this way because his extreme drug war legislation from the 1980s and 1990s. One journalist called him the "Architect of the Drug War". So voting for Biden in November is not going to fix it either.

Stay focused on the fact that laws need to be stricken down and we need Congress to do that. What is Congress doing right now to reform policing in America? That is the question. Forget Trump and forget Biden. Keep protesting until Congress acts.

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Check out white flight, redlining, urban decay, discrimination in CCRs, etc.

Should people live in cities that others disregard?

Oh, and the GOP is responsible for all of the poverty, obesity, and lack of education in the rural states, right?

So why isn’t crime and incarceration rate as bad as with the black communities, so many fatherless, why do blacks perform worse than any other ethnic group in education? Once again, 60 years and failed Democrat policies have devastated the black communities.

They are in charge so it's all on them.

UH-Huh.....

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Let me guess - you were denouncing the people protesting the Dem covid lockdowns weren't you?

I denounced their carrying of guns.

The very act of protesting was considered violent because it would spread the covid virus and kill innocent people.

Yeah, because guns aren't violent.

* Facepalm *

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How many more murders, assaults, and black people are we going to watch shot before Repubs do something about the mess they created in America's cities?

Republicans? When I check on YouTube and Twitter, you don’t see a lot of Black Republicans rioting and looting. Try again....

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tear gas canisters could be heard exploding as police and National Guard soldiers aggressively forced back hundreds of protesters who gathered in Lafayette Park

Of course our brave (cough) officers went after the unarmed peaceful protesters.

And don't be surprised to hear a few cops got caught instigating violence in peaceful protests elsewhere while masquerading as a protester. They have done this before.... A LOT.

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I assume posters claiming they need to have private arsenals rivaling ones the police and military have so they as citizens could take over a government they don't like must sympathize with those fighting the government now. Would the gotta-have-lots-of-guns crowd agree the rioters are doing what the gun extremists have threatened to do, and thereby say 'they're just exercising their rights like we want to do'?

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I pointed out that the extremists who dismiss any message by the protestors due to looting. The response? "They shouldn't loot."

Rinse and repeat.

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If there is one thing we can say at the end of Trump's first four years in office:

America is clearly in a better place than it was when Trump took the presidency.

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The US is spiraling downward pretty fast.

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what do you want Trump to do? Parrot the Dem mayors and "protest peacefully and after 9 pm, go home"

They will just go nuts and destroy more

instead, why not send the protesters all a free check for their efforts? Thats hard work to go from city to city burning things and playing with fireworks.

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when the country is already buckling because of the coronavirus outbreak and the Depression-level unemployment it has caused.

Yet not one Dem leader is saying to stay home due to coronavirus. Which is a total change from last week. The Michigan governor even lifted her draconian stay at home order early that she claimed she would never do.

Likely so that the brave Antifa freedom fighters can continue to run around burning, looting and spreading corona.

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Yet not one Dem leader

Trump is in the WH. He IS the leader and he has failed beyond anyone's failure

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Likely so that the brave Antifa freedom fighters can continue to run around burning, looting and spreading corona

You mean the white-nationalist Trump-supporters who are pretending to be Antifa?

Clearly you haven't bothered to fact-check yourself.

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Its basically fine to go outside to protest if it is something Dems can turn into a political argument.

But if you want to open your business, play with your kids, protest for your basic human right of freedom of movement, nope.

Go back inside and follow our edict you selfish corona spreader.

Hey, Trump said corona would magically disappear, he was right again. Its gone.

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The message from our far-right extremists seems to be that if these protestors carried guns, it would be ok, as they'd be exercising their god-given second-amendment right to overthrow a tyrannical government.

Can you clarify that for me? Is that what you're saying?

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You put a naciccistic racist buffoon in charge and expect anything different?

You reap what you sow.

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The desperation of the coward Trump is overflowing to his followers.

They're saying things like a mouse trapped in a corner. Scared and quivering.

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Its basically fine to go outside to protest if it is something Dems can turn into a political argument.

It's basically fine to carry guns and storm the legislature, if you're white and you have a political argument.

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no such thing. nice narrative though. Its Antifa, obviously. They are just cowards who want to do it and have black Americans blamed because they wont claim credit for it.

4 years of the liberal media supporting Antifa, now the story is who? they dont exist. They most certainly do, and are domestic terrorists coopting legitimate non violent protests.

You mean the white-nationalist Trump-supporters who are pretending to be Antifa?

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The issue we are facing is an abuse of political power to discriminate against a race. Racism is already very bad in itself. But mixing it with abuse of political power seriously elevates the wickedness of racism. And this is the reason why the use of unrestrained forces in dealing with the demonstration adds fuel to the fire and ultimate frustration. The government must look into themselves, not demonstrators. Looting and destruction of properties here and there are minuscule in comparison to the abuse of power. Government, you ARE the problem. Mr President, you ARE the problem.

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The US is spiraling downward pretty fast.

Thank you, Donald Trump and cult!

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You mean the white-nationalist Trump-supporters who are pretending to be Antifa?

Doesn't make sense. White nationalists want to maintain the image that all blacks do is riot and loot. And they sure don't want to promote the image of whites and blacks in unity. Clearly the riots were strong because they were diverse. No way white nationalists would get involved. White antifa members were the ones.

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no such thing. nice narrative though. Its Antifa, obviously. They are just cowards who want to do it and have black Americans blamed because they wont claim credit for it.

Fake-news. More right-wing deep-state fake-news MSM lies. There is documented proof that these are Trump-funded white-supremacist organizations pretending to be antifa as a false flag operation.

Of course, those who want to drink the mainstream kool-ade believe it's antifa.

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Mr President, you ARE the problem.

Absolutely!

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It was fine, and legal. What Antifa is doing, is not. Was there any violence or damage in the Michigan protest? Anything set on fire or stolen? nope. And it was a legal protest where Dems complained about spreading corona as their only semi legitimate complaint.

What happened about corona now? Deblasio is proud of his daughter for getting arrested while spreading corona. Same guy that refused to open any business or let people go outside. Proud of his daughter for spreading corona.

It's basically fine to carry guns and storm the legislature, if you're white and you have a political argument.

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This rioting needs to stop, so we can get back to what's important

Getting twitter to stop the horrifying act of fact-checking the Twatter-in-chief.

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As Terence Floyd, the dead man’s brother stated

Let’s switch it up, y’all. Let’s switch it up. Do this peacefully, please,

Peaceful protest leading to change using civil disobedience espoused by Gandhi led to great change in India but nobody will be able to recall the convicted rioters and looters from these riots...

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When Putin and his cronies in the Kremlin were contemplating their massive cyber influence campaign targeting the US election in 2016, they couldn't have dreamed how successful it would be...

Putin watched in 1989 when the Soviet Union crumbled and has spoken openly on what a humiliation this was for Russia...

Now, with his hand-picked Puppet in the White House, he is taking his revenge by watching the US lurch into turmoil - all brought about by a failed businessman and former reality TV host, who has about as much ability to be President as Kim Kardashaian...

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Its Antifa, obviously.

No, it's not. Any Antifa problem is something Donald Trump and Fox came up with to try and deflect his problems of cowardice and racism.

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It was fine, and legal.

And more importantly, white.

But hey, keep on defending the double-standard. And keep on wondering why the people being oppressed keep on pointing out that your team has entirely disregarded the oppression.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

It was fine, and legal.

So was kneeling at a football game. And yet, that was a horrendous offense according to our posters on the alt-right.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

Trump left the White House and walked out of the front gate on foot to deliver a speech in front of the desecrated St. Michael's church.

I bet all your bunker insulters feel dumb now.

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White antifa members were the ones.

Yeah, these communists have been doing the same thing for 100 years, trying to start a civil war. They couldn't care less about George Floyd.

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Right. If antifa was real, why don't we see antifa websites? Why don't we have official antifa spokesmen.

Once again, the Trumpets deny reality, and create a boogeyman they can blame anything on. It's just another term for that which they label "socialist".

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Trump-funded white-supremacist organizations pretending to be antifa as a false flag operation.

You have gone way off the deep end.

Look at the mugshots of the Antifa who were arrested.

Look at their skinny wrists and scrawny legs.

Those are not white supremacists.

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Trump left the White House and walked out of the front gate on foot to deliver a speech in front of the desecrated St. Michael's church.

Dems said you can't go to church during covid19; but you sure can gather by the 1000s and birn one down.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Look at the mugshots of the Antifa who were arrested.

Look at their skinny wrists and scrawny legs.

Those are not white supremacists.

Textbook white supremacists! Seriously, that exact picture is in the encyclopedia under "white supremacist"

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Trump left the White House and walked out of the front gate on foot to deliver a speech in front of the desecrated St. Michael's church.

What a man. Not!! He went after dispersing gas and rubber bullets at the peaceful demonstrators. He knew they were peaceful and non violent but had to make sure he was safe by shooting rubber bullets at them.

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This is an interesting new tactic our alt-righters have. They've been putting forth conspiracy theories for years, so we started disregarding what they say. So they've re-adjusted, and started calling the truth, about white-supremecists and antifa connection (proven in a court of law) - as conspiracy theories. I guess they figure maybe they can use the label to get people to disregard the truth.

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Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, dismissed Trump's comments as the “rantings of an insecure man trying to look strong after building his entire political career on racism.”

BINGO! Inslee nailed that one...

Biden said hate emerges “when you have somebody in power who breathes oxygen into the hate.”

Joe again being Presidential - he should have said Trump is the arsonist handing out the gasoline...

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So what are the odds on when he calls in the military.

I'm not giving any odds on whether he calls in the military, that's already a forgone conclusion. The question is whether he does it today, tomorrow, or the next day.

I'm putting my money on tomorrow.

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Joe again being Presidential

Joe is old and I wish there was another younger person (a Republican is fine too just not Mr. Jesus Pence). But at least Joe will have decent staff. Trump just has Jared, Ivanka, and Don Jr. running the country. Can you believe it? American is burning and the stock market is crashing and this is somehow Hillary's fault?

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I have to agree with one of the other posters. What an idiotic way to try to vote out a president you dont like.

Lets see...burn down everybodys biz, who probably were already receiving Trump administration approved SBA grants and loans, now those biz are in debt, and many will be jobless.

So, trying to once again process the logic...those people will go and vote for Biden now? and what about the national treasury spent on trying to help those business? You can bark about "they will just claim insurance" but billions of tax money was spent on helping many of those businesses. Are the Dem mayors asking for the protesters to even consider that before they burn and loot?

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those people will go and vote for Biden now?

Yep. He brings a message of unity. He was VP under a president of unity for eight years. And he had a scandal-free cabinet for eight years, who would handle this situation in infinitely better ways than bringing in the military.

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lack of violence, no looting, no burning and following the law.

which the armed Michigan protesters abided by and Antifa does not.

Can you clarify that for me? Is that what you're saying?

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Rome is on fire, while Nero is hiding in a bunker calling for additional fuel tankers of gasoline.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Trump may be pouring gasoline on the fire but the fire has been burning brightly for decades and it was Biden who brought the wood and originally lit it.

Please people, accept that this is a bipartisan debacle. Whichever side you are on your presidential candidate is culpable. We need to join forces because American police will violate your rights and even kill you regardless of your politics. They are out of control and only Americans working together will fix it.

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which the armed Michigan protesters abided by and Antifa does not.

Fake-news conspiracy theory the most mainstream of MSM's, Fox "news".

How you people can believe the fakestream media is beyond me.

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What Antifa is doing, is not. Was there any violence or damage in the Michigan protest?

actually what they are doing and claiming it....is moronic. Class action lawsuit? What would the damages be?

Billions?

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Dems wont criticize anyone in the black communities who they demand vote for them and wont criticize Antifa.

Wont even demand that people stay home to prevent spread of corona anymore.

This is a losing political issue because if I am a black business owner and Dem leadership let a bunch of Antifa punks burn down my business, Im not voting Dem. Even if Biden and Obama demand that I do so.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Once people start holding them accountable and demanding monetary damages....watch the "white flight" from these groups.

"wasnt me...I didnt do it"

0 ( +4 / -4 )

check Reddit and Twitter.

So the story is really now that after years of liberal media supporting Antifa, that it isnt real? sure thing. Except we have seen them in action the street in Portland and Berkeley among other places and even a poster here identify as a supporter.

Right. If antifa was real, why don't we see antifa websites? Why don't we have official antifa spokesmen.

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Lot of "anti-big government" small-c conservatives on this topic getting very excited for the prospect of the government instituting martial law instead of holding public servants accountable for murder.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Im not Joe Biden. who has claimed to a member of, and speak for, the black community, no.

Yeah, because anything you've ever posted shows you have an ounce of understanding of how life is for black people in America.

Right?

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check Reddit and Twitter.

So now you've quoted the fakestream MSM media, as well as conspiracy theory websites.

And you wonder why your team has zero credibility anymore. It's the exact reason why Trump has no other tools in his toolbelt other than calling in the military to execute Americans for daring to protest the execution of Americans.

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Trump has achieved his ambition of becoming emperor. The tragedy for the US is that he's Nero holding a bible, not a fiddle, while Rome burns.

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No we are asking public servants to hold their citizen accountable and arrest / stop the looting and burning of our country.

We got lots of public servants who demanded we stay home, and most complied but now those who complied are living in terror.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Im not Joe Biden. who has claimed to a member of, and speak for, the black community, no.

You have claimed to be a member of, and speak for, the black community, though.

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Just like the virus Trump only steps when it's too late and then over compensates

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im sure there will be damages awarded to the Floyd family, as there should be, as this becomes a deterrent to any corrupt and useless police dept to get their dept politics together...or else..

but there should be massive damages awarded to those who lost their biz at the hands of the terrorist, paid for by them and not by Trump.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

we know what Antifa look like as we have seen them in action. There is a dress code and the backpack to carry all their gear.

whats the symbol on this guys disguise? is that the letter A by chance? Amazon, his work place? nah. Antifa.

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/police-spray-paint-sweatshirt-link-shaler-man-to-violence-at-pittsburgh-protest/

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A question for all JT posters complaining about the secret service and national guard protecting the White House and president: Wouldn't all countries be doing the same in protecting their president under similar circumstances? I am neither a heavy Republican, Democrat or politics lover like everyone here seems to be. Just answer the question. Is it abnormal for countries to protect their president?

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“A black female from the crowd (stepped) in front of Bartels and pleaded for him to stop,” police wrote. “He gave her the finger and then jumped on the car hood and stomped the windshield.”

Antifa.

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

“A black female from the crowd (stepped) in front of Bartels and pleaded for him to stop,” police wrote. “He gave her the finger and then jumped on the car hood and stomped the windshield.”

Debunked. They proved that guy is a card-holding KKK member.

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Nope.

Richmond Police: 233 arrested Sunday night, including members of ANTIFA, out-of-towners

https://wjla.com/news/local/richmond-police-arrests-sunday-night-antifa

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@ SuperLib: Check out white flight, redlining, urban decay, discrimination in CCRs, etc.

What are you talking about? White flight? So the people you claim are racist leave the city and that increases racism in the city? That makes no sense. Redlining? By the people running the city? Remember the people you are saying are the racists left already. Spouting talking points that make no sense isn’t helping your defense of the indefensible Progressive cities that are destroying America.

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false and intentional misinformation.

They proved that guy is a card-holding KKK member.

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yes, it did. Thats how the news article can say that ANTIFA members were arrested.

Did it say in the police report they are ANTIFA?

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yes, it did. Thats how the news article can say that ANTIFA members were arrested.

Fake news.

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tell your teammate here. He is a member. He says there are soooo many members that we dont even know how many as part of his propaganda. Ask him, he can explain it to you.

Yeah, because antifa is a real organization which people can be members of right? (hint - I'm making fun of that idea).

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Less than eight months until competent leadership replaces buffoonery.

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US has two virus: Covid-19 and racism.

Only for the first one a vaccine will be found.

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Dems have an inferiority complex because their candidate has been hiding in a basement for months.

Because every time he comes out he makes gaffes that will cause him to lose the election.

So trump haters want to portray Trump as hiding or scared when the Secret Service decided to take him to a secure space for an hour while they dealt with violent attackers at the White House. They think it makes him look weak, when its perfectly normal.

Is it abnormal for countries to protect their president?

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yes, it did. Thats how the news article can say that ANTIFA members were arrested.

I see, because you read a headline you know that the reporter carefully read a police report, you know that the police officer didn't lie in the report, and that someone is a "member" of antifa, a movement which doesn't have members.

It's weird, because for years you've complained that the media just make up whatever they want with no regard to the truth. But I guess that was then. Now your narrative has changed. Sad.

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It was hilarious to watch a bunch of scared old men shuffle across to the St John's Church all for a photo opportunity.

Our beloved president, trump holding a Bible was the topping to this cake of absurdity!!

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The Facebook group Seattle Antifascist Action said on their Facebook page that their "good friend and comrade" is "a martyr who gave his life to the struggle against fascism."

Oh so its not members, you have "comrades". Got it.

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Just answer the question. Is it abnormal for countries to protect their president?

There's just something odd about a guy in a bunker telling others to stop being so soft.

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Richmond Police: 233 arrested Sunday night, including members of ANTIFA, out-of-towners

How would the police even know if they were ANTIFA since there isn't a single organisation nor any type of membership card.

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"His announcement came as police under federal command forced back peaceful demonstrators with tear gas so he could walk to a nearby church and pose with a Bible."

Yeah, these lines sum it up pretty well, I think. Captain Bonespurs climbed out of the shelter he was cowering in, and knowing full well former Presidents and pretty much most other human beings wouldn't have been so cowardly, he hid behind the army so he could do a photo opp, while threatening protestors who were nothing but peaceful.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

I’m prayin for da-kine America right now...

So very sad.

When a leader goes against the youth of his own country and uses force then it almost means disaster.

God Bless America!

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ulysses: "Our beloved president, trump holding a Bible was the topping to this cake of absurdity!"

Yes! And I love how anyone who's a Christian is also equally cowardly if they defend this man doing what he does, and obviously don't believe in god one bit themselves, but opportunity. The Evangelicals are a prime example of that.

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Oh so its not members, you have "comrades". Got it.

Yes. There aren't members of a movement, in the same way there aren't "members" of BLM, and protestors in the 1960s weren't "members" of the Civil Rights movement.

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Yes, I mean surely black protesters or white supremacists (not Antifa) would spray paint "Free Palestine" on a synagogue. its getting beyond ridiculous by now.

You guys must be scared as everyone is now claiming no such thing as Antifa after years of supporting their actions along with the liberal media. We have the receipts and the tweets.

So what did this guy declare support for if Antifa doesnt exist?

"Minnesota AG's son says 'I officially declare my support for Antifa' after Trump declared them a terrorist organization and his dad was put in charge of the George Floyd prosecution"

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President Trump, please keep the military out of this. I’d even say keep the police out. Our communities can fix this given space and a chance. We’re beginning to look like China and Xi Jinping. Thank you, no thank you. You’re shooting yourself in the foot.

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The Facebook group Seattle Antifascist Action said on their Facebook page that their "good friend and comrade" is "a martyr who gave his life to the struggle against fascism."

Oh so its not members, you have "comrades". Got it.

All started by some far-right pro-Trump group or its cohorts in the Russian IRA...

Trump supporters fall so easily for the disinformation and con...

yes, it did. Thats how the news article can say that ANTIFA members were arrested.

Yea, he had a red cap on that had ANTIFA spelled out in capitol letters - I hear you can get them at Trumpstore.com - along with an ANTIFA keychain and tie - made in China of course...

we know what Antifa look like as we have seen them in action. There is a dress code and the backpack to carry all their gear.

Of course Trump supporters know what they look like, they've been portraying them all week... They just ditched the AR15s and camo and switched clothes. In the backpacks they have firebombs, Confederate flags, and Trump 2020 banners...

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Yes, I mean surely black protesters or white supremacists (not Antifa) would spray paint "Free Palestine" on a synagogue. its getting beyond ridiculous by now.

White supremacists, probably not. Protestors, yes. Those who want to end police violence, racism and facism are the natural allies of the oppressed everywhere, including Palestine.

You guys must be scared as everyone is now claiming no such thing as Antifa after years of supporting their actions along with the liberal media. We have the receipts and the tweets.

No-one said antifa doesn't exist: it does, as it's a movement of people dedicated to preventing and ending fascism. What you're failing to understand, because the right have never been part of a movement that wasn't astroturfed to heck and back, is that there is no official Antifa Party, group or organisation. There aren't membership fees. You don't get paid to do it.

If you hate fascism and are willing to stand up and do something about it, then you are antifa.

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so a non group that has non members with no leaders somehow knows the exact place and time to meet up and has standardized equipment, communications and supplies sitting onsite when they arrive.

Then move in coordination to accomplish a common goal, having never met, spoken or organized in any way prior to that moment.

Suuuuure.

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@sunfunbun: I get so tired of the ignorance and narrative. It isn't about which state did what, and it isn't about political parties, it's the big picture.

I get so tired of the blame shifting and ignorance of what is going on in America. From the Progressives and the media It is always about what red states and blue states do and politics. The narrative is always that red states and Republicans are racist because they don’t cater to separate demographics over the humanity within each individual.

Racism in the United States of America cannot be tolerated.

Progressives not only tolerate racism they promote it through public policy that institutionalizes racial differentiation. Constantly focusing and harping on racial differences and blaming and shaming people that have done nothing other than being born of a certain race. The constant picking at the scab of America’s racial past is destroying any chance for people to come together.

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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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Peaceful, Martin Luther King style protesting designed to highlight the issue and bring about change through peaceful dialogue: Yes.

Rioting, violence and looting: No.

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@ Blacklabel: Because every time he comes out he makes gaffes that will cause him to lose the election.

Biden just said that the police should shoot people in the leg instead of the heart. He is a gaffe machine of epic proportions.

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Why were the Covid-19 restriction protesters severely criticized by the media for breaking social distancing rules over thier concerns, but these protesters not criticized for breaking social distancing rules over their concerns?

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so a non group that has non members with no leaders somehow knows the exact place and time to meet up

This is going to blow your mind, but: the internet exists.

Then move in coordination to accomplish a common goal, having never met, spoken or organized in any way prior to that moment.

No-one said that.

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Classic Biden. He needs to go back to the basement for the curfew. Corona is done, so now they need to stretch the Antifa riots out until November.

I still cant believe the Michigan governor cancelled her stay at home so people could go out and burn down her cities without worrying about violating her executive orders.

Biden just said that the police should shoot people in the leg instead of the heart. He is a gaffe machine of epic proportions.

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Peaceful, Martin Luther King style protesting designed to highlight the issue and bring about change through peaceful dialogue: Yes.

When this was tried they were beaten by cops, who then blamed them for violence.

Just like today.

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im sure there will be damages awarded to the Floyd family, as there should be, as this becomes a deterrent to any corrupt and useless police dept to get their dept politics together...or else..

Since neither the cops in question nor the police department or its heads pay the damages, how does it deter cops?? The money is from the citizens to the family of the murdered person. This is why police brutality is so common. There is ZERO accountability. ZERO. Cops do what they want and generally get away with it. Punishment is rare and its usually just getting fired. Then they go work at another city or town again as a cop. The people are so thick these days they actually think firing is fitting punishment when a cop murders a citizen.

And that is what this whole thing is about. Not Dems vs. Repubs. Not anti-fa vs. proud boys. Not Black vs. White. Not Trump vs. Biden. Its police vs. citizens while generally only the Black people universally know what is going on while the White people obfuscate the hell out of it because so many of them cannot stop adoring cops and authority no matter how much they abuse them.

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the CNN puff piece in support of Antifa says the group has both members and leaders

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

While Antifa members don't fit a single category, they say many are millennials and many live on society's fringes: undocumented immigrants, transgender people, low-wage workers, those who don't conform to the traditional 9-to-5.

And their methods are often violent. Antifa leaders admit they're willing to physically attack anyone who employs violence against them or who condones racism -- as long as force is used in the name of eradicating hatred.

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So he is saying the Federal government is going to send troops into states against the will of those states?

And the people who are normally aghast at any hint of trampling on state rights are totally in favor of this?

Of course they are, Trump said it so it has to be a good idea.

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the CNN puff piece in support of Antifa says the group has both members and leaders

It's wrong. I thought you knew CNN weren't a good news organisation? You've said so nearly every day for four years. What changed in the last 20 minutes?

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the CNN puff piece in support of Antifa says the group has both members and leaders

And now they’re quoting the fake news MSM again. These people actually watch CNN.

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the CNN puff piece in support of Antifa says the group has both members and leaders

Give it up...Antifa is just a made-up bogeyman from the far-right crazies, just like "caravans" and "Mexican rapists"....

The people committing the violence can be called labeled in a number of ways; PTS (Pro-Trump supporters), FOD (Friends of Don), or by their more well known abbreviation, KKK...

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smithinjapanToday  10:49 am JST

ulysses: "Our beloved president, trump holding a Bible was the topping to this cake of absurdity!"

Yes! And I love how anyone who's a Christian is also equally cowardly if they defend this man doing what he does, and obviously don't believe in god one bit themselves, but opportunity. The Evangelicals are a prime example of that.

The Bible thumpers are not particularly known for their brotherly love, more for racism, hate and vitriol.

Our dear leader, trump fits perfectly into the bigoted agenda they have for the country.

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There is a lot of hurt and angry people out there. It does not help having a President with no empathy and stirring the pot who thinks this is a reality show and hides behind his tweets.

Makes me wish for Nixon. at least he had the guts to go in front of protesters during the Vietnam War and try to explain, reason, and listen to them even though his advisers also said that was a bad idea.

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PTownsend - Posters who pushed for Trump must see what he and his fellow 'elite' are doing to grab more for themselves and leave nothing much more than drips of trickle for the rest.

Those who began hating Trump when it first became obvious that he had won the Presidential election already hate Trump. Those who support Trump still support Trump. It doesn't appear that you have changed anyone's mind. Maybe you're just not very convincing?

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Lefties are saying the riots are the result of us not listening to Colin kapernick when he took a knee peacefully. Remember how Nike supported kapernick and had the campaign, stand for something even if you risk everything? Amd the left loved this? The irony is the looters were looting Nike stores. Liberalism is really a mental disorder.

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SuperLib - Like Colin Kaepernick did?

People heard Kaepernick's complaint. People made up their own minds about Kaepernick. Some people object to the general public making up their own minds.

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Finally, this challenge is being handled! Put the loser rioters in Jail where they belong!

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And that is what this whole thing is about. Not Dems vs. Repubs. Not anti-fa vs. proud boys. Not Black vs. White. Not Trump vs. Biden. Its police vs. citizens while generally only the Black people universally know what is going on while the White people obfuscate the hell out of it because so many of them cannot stop adoring cops and authority no matter how much they abuse them.

You are right. It isn’t about Dems vs. Repubs. It’s about Progressives and it’s failure to create functional government. It’s not antifa vs proud boys. It’s about antifa. It’s not about Trump, it’s about defeating Trump - and Biden will do. It isn’t about police vs citizens. It’s about tearing down America and the police as an important social institution. Whites don’t adore cops. There is distrust of law enforcement on the Right and the antifa Left are in pitched battles with the police in numerous American cities all this past week.

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only an organization that is trying to avoid criminal liability would claim to not have leaders or members.

Lets say I want to support the cause. Do I just go to my local park and start punching people who I think are Nazis in the face?

or do I go to the created Twitter/Facebook/Reddit groups and contact a "not leader" who makes me a "not member" by telling me what city to go to, helps me with a ride to get there, tells me what time to meet, where to meet and what items to bring?

No one is vetted by anyone (a not leader) to make sure that they arent FBI? unlikely.

Otherwise how do I show up at the right place and time? who posted the cities, times and dates on Reddit for the Floyd "protests"?

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Otherwise how do I show up at the right place and time? who posted the cities, times and dates on Reddit for the Floyd "protests"?

You obviously do not understand social media!!!

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All said and done, all that could be said was said and therefore it was a good speech from the President. Liberals here would never, ever accept Trump even if he made it rain greenbacks on Sundays, cured cancer, and ethically cultivated avocados.

For that reason, you can talk to the hand. Red arrow away!

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 Liberals here would never, ever accept Trump even if he made it rain greenbacks on Sundays, cured cancer, and ethically cultivated avocados.

Sorry to break it to you, a bible in hand doesn't give your dear leader, trump Super Powers.

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Floyd's brother pleads for peace

Yeah, rioters and looters, get with the program already! Jeez...

Problem is a lot of them never even heard of George Floyd.

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Former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential candidate, vowed to address institutional racism in his first 100 days in office. He met in person with black leaders in Delaware and also held a virtual meeting with big-city mayors.

Am I to believe Biden will do in 100 days what he hasn't done in 30 years in the Senate?

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the black community doesnt trust mail in ballots. Yet Dems are still pushing for this as their way to win. Corona is gone, so no reason to not go vote in person if you are physically close to a voting place.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-election-insig/black-voters-dont-trust-mail-ballots-thats-a-problem-for-democrats-idUSKBN2351G0

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toon12 - There is a lot of hurt and angry people out there.

There are a lot of greedy, selfish people out there who are using the death of the criminal/counterfeiter George Floyd to loot, rob, burn, and to destroy the livelihood of others. The looters, and rioter, are creating a lot more hurt, and angry, people out there.

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@Sneezey

Peaceful, Martin Luther King style protesting designed to highlight the issue and bring about change through peaceful dialogue: Yes.

When this was tried they were beaten by cops, who then blamed them for violence.

Yes, but Martin Luther King's insistence on non violent protest helped win respect and brought about meaningful change.

The violence of these protest is not winning good will. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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only an organization that is trying to avoid criminal liability would claim to not have leaders or members.

First you assume that it is "organization". Then you make a strong, but unevidenced assertion about the reason why it has no leaders.

Not good enough.

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only an organization that is trying to avoid criminal liability would claim to not have leaders or members.

Antifa isn't an organisation. But an organisation looking to avoid criminal liability would, in my view, lobby politicians, collude before trials, turn off their bodycams, and - oh yeah! - assault and kill witnesses to their misdeeds.

Lets say I want to support the cause. Do I just go to my local park and start punching people who I think are Nazis in the face?

If people are doing Nazi stuff, then yeah.

or do I go to the created Twitter/Facebook/Reddit groups and contact a "not leader" who makes me a "not member" by telling me what city to go to, helps me with a ride to get there, tells me what time to meet, where to meet and what items to bring?

That sounds a lot like what would happen in a decentralised group, yeah.

No one is vetted by anyone (a not leader) to make sure that they arent FBI? unlikely.

No.

Otherwise how do I show up at the right place and time? who posted the cities, times and dates on Reddit for the Floyd "protests"?

I don't know if you know this, but the current protests are kind of a big deal. People who want to join can often just go to a major city and find a protest pretty quickly.

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The protests were necessary to bring awareness and to have the conversation where everyone could understand what happened was wrong. That happened. Everyone was in agreement that this was a horrible thing and was fully supportive. Bipartisan agreement from all races and all Americans.

Then, the looting and burning came and distracted from that message. Now some people can say, it was horrible what happened.....but.....(insert legitimate concern unrelated to what happened to Mr. Floyd) That "but" is caused by the riots and looting that should have never happened.

How does attacking the White House, burning churches and looting luxury stores and the Nike shop help anything as far as justice for Mr. Floyd?

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Sure. How would I know who else is Antifa?

Hey buddy Im Antifa, (but not a member). Are you Antifa? (but not a member). Where is the (not a leader)who can tell me what to do? How do I know what Nazi stuff is if no one from your (non organization) has trained me what to do when I see it?

Or do I just go find the white people dressed like Antifa in the black neighborhoods and start burning and looting with them?

I don't know if you know this, but the current protests are kind of a big deal. People who want to join can often just go to a major city and find a protest pretty quickly.

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How does attacking the White House, burning churches and looting luxury stores and the Nike shop help anything as far as justice for Mr. Floyd?

Liberals want to overthrow the democratically elected government of the United States. The ballot box isn't working, so their footsoldiers are stirring up discontent and letting blacks take the rap for it. Check the amateur footage on YouTube!

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I assume posters claiming they need to have private arsenals rivaling ones the police and military have so they as citizens could take over a government they don't like must sympathize with those fighting the government now.

To fight anarchy the 2nd amendment proves to be more valuable than ever.

Would the gotta-have-lots-of-guns crowd agree the rioters are doing what the gun extremists have threatened to do, and thereby say 'they're just exercising their rights like we want to do'?

They should stand by a let the looters trash their place? I think not.

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Trump did not seek permission to use St Johns, and the clergy there are ... more than a bit upset.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/bishop-budde-trump-church/2020/06/01/20ca70f8-a466-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html

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This fool had a photo-op in front of a burnt-out church, and he couldn't even pretend to make it look realistic. Holding up a bible like it's exhibit A. I bet he doesn't even know the first word in the bible.

There are reports that he was so embarrassed that everyone found out he was hiding in a bunker, he couldn't wait to go into damage control and shamelessly do this photo-op with his mafia crew. As some one said, what a little man.

What a little man.

Bunkerb!tch
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who burnt out the church and why? But WaPo wants me to think the clergy are more mad that Trump stopped by than that their church was burned by Antifa.

This fool had a photo-op in front of a burnt-out church,

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So JR Smith beats up an Antifa kid who was vandalizing his car. Ostentially for "racial justice".

I am curious on what side the Trump-hating crowd comes down in this case.... who do they support, JR Smith, or the Antifista?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nba-star-jr-smith-expresses-his-disappointment-motherfking-white-boy-damaging-his-truck

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bass4funk

"Like Colin Kaepernick did?"

During a game? No. Do that on your own time.

Point of accuracy: Colin Kaepernick NEVER protested during a game.

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Stand up for your country and your neighborhood.

Trump already tweeted that, he suggested his supporters come down to the white house and stand up to the protestors on his behalf.... nothing... even white Trump supporters know how stupid it is to confront angry black folk when you kill off one of their own.

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“We have the greatest country in the world,”

2020: hold my beer

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Anyone who isn’t yet sick of all Trump’s “winning”?

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Once again Cadet Bone Spurs wants to play with his little toy soldiers and feel like a real leader. (no disrespect to the military, only trump).

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Not at all, still winning. Corona lockdown is over, it magically disappeared just as Trump said. Economy coming back, jobs coming back. Only thing all this did is increase black support for Trump in Dem led states.

Anyone who isn’t yet sick of all Trump’s “winning”?

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That was hilarious, JR beat that dude down. I have also seen several Reddit posts from Antifa (not members) angry that their own cars were vandalized while they were out stealing and burning in black neighborhoods.

I am curious on what side the Trump-hating crowd comes down in this case.... who do they support, JR Smith, or the Antifista?

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Blacklabel

Not at all, still winning. Corona lockdown is over, it magically disappeared just as Trump said. Economy coming back, jobs coming back. Only thing all this did is increase black support for Trump in Dem led states.

If by "magically disappeared" you mean "hit the 107k mark", then... yeah, I guess it did "magically disappear in the US".

SMH.

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Blacklabel

who burnt out the church and why? But WaPo wants me to think the clergy are more mad that Trump stopped by than that their church was burned by Antifa.

   This fool had a photo-op in front of a burnt-out church,

St John's had the windows smashed but it wasn't burnt out.

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Blacklabel:

Magically disappeared?!!!! Ha ha ha. Good one.

I know, let's stop all the testing. In that way, there won't be any confirmed cases.

From one million to zero!

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so why has not one single Dem come out to demand that these "protesters" stay home to prevent the spread?

Why did the Michigan governor cancel the stay at home order?

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bass4funk

To fight anarchy the 2nd amendment proves to be more valuable than ever.

The 2nd amendment exists to fight against a wrongful government not individual citizens.

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And here we have it. Once again proof our alt-right posters are ignoring reality:

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1221456

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just following along with what your guy said. I do believe there was a fire in the basement. Because the CNN guy Stelter got lit up on social media for calling someone a liar when they reported the fire. He later deleted and apologized. I am glad to hear it if the damage wasnt that bad as we thought.

St John's had the windows smashed but it wasn't burnt out.

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The photo at the top of this article is another indication of the demographic Trump represents. While planning his Potemkin Village-ish appearance at the church, his PR people should have given a little more thought to how it would be perceived. Unless, of course, they only wanted to reach their own demographic.

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who do they support, JR Smith

Not a fan of Smith as a basketball player, not a fan of violence, but the punk he beat deserved to be punked.

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so were these building burned and stores virtually looted through a Twitter account?

No I believe this happened in real life in black neighborhoods, not the internet.

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earlier I was told Antifa has no leaders, members or social media presence.

So even if this were true and someone "called for violence", Antifa has no members and no one is a leader so it wouldnt matter what a Twitter account told anyone to do.

The "call" would have no leadership authority, nor any members to carry it out.

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Gees, the conservative Trump followers are really uptight today, as I guess they should be. The desperation to be right when they're wrong is showing!!

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Trump threatening to use the military is like Caesar threatening to cross the Rubicon. I am afraid most of you have no idea what this means. This is how republics die.

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That these riots are not only sustained but growing in sophistication and scope tells us that it's not a grassroots reflection of discontent. It is an organized and concerted destabilization campaign with one goal: destroy America.

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earlier I was told Antifa has no leaders, members

That's true.

or social media presence.

That isn't.

To fight anarchy the 2nd amendment proves to be more valuable than ever.

For decades the far-right have been screaming that they need their guns to rise up in case the government declares war on the people. Well guess what, Frank Castle? The Government has declared martial law. It's your time to shine. Get out there and shoot at the national guard.

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blacklabel

"As the D.C. curfew went into effect at 11 p.m., Sunday, authorities surround St. John's Church, where it and an adjacent building were on fire. It came as some protesters occupied the area amid demonstrations in the city. "

"D.C. fire officials confirmed that there was a fire in the basement at the church. Officials also said the blaze was extinguished. It appears from images and social media reaction that there is no damage to the sanctuary."

"WUSA9's Matt Gregory talked to the rector from St. John’s Church. He said the fire was in the nursery and did not spread, but that the nursery was just a burned-out shell now. "

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/st-johns-church-washington-dc/65-6dc44732-8560-4179-91ca-0ad56b96e0c9

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no problem here.

Your side is insistent that white Antifa has the right to continue to attack the White House and loot and burn in black neighborhoods. Even after George Floyd brother told you to stop. And you got so overly excited that you totally forgot the narrative that anyone who goes outside is supposed to die from coronavirus. Now you cant blame Trump for the new cases, as Dems forgot to demand people to stay inside.

So now everything can reopen, Other than the tragedy that a man is dead from a horrible police action, its all good on our side. liberals have lost black votes, find themselves supporting and defending a domestic terrorist organization and have lost the cant vote in person cause of coronavirus narrative.

Loot in person, vote in person.

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I just saw Trump's Rose Garden speech - it was like watching a frightened two year old - with his grammar and vocabulary at about that same level...

He is either demented or just an imbecile...but as George Carlin says; what if someone really, really stupid gets dementia - how do you know?

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destroy America.

Yup, Trump's doing that with his racism and dictatorial demagoguery.

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Antifa has the right to continue to attack the White House

No one says that except for Trump, his cult and Fox News.

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Trump conservatives; DictatorialLemmingsRUs

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@serranoIt is an organized and concerted destabilization campaign with one goal: destroy America.

And some in the far right continue to support Russia.

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America is burning, America is hurting. 40 million unemployed. 100,000 dead from Covid-19. Economy crashed and to date has cost more than $7 trillion. Daily police brutality. Business bankrupt.

Just five short months to the ballot boxes.

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And there it is - all you "Antifa" obsessors - you were conned....

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national "antifa" organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa-called-for-violence-on-twitter/ar-BB14TEcg

Antifa is a "fake" organization - a phantom bogeyman created by far-right anarchists and white supremacists to smear their opponents. It comes right out of the Repub Dirty Tricks manual written by Roger Stone and used by Nixon...

You either got played, or you were in on the con...

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So even if this were true and someone "called for violence", Antifa has no members and no one is a leader so it wouldnt matter what a Twitter account told anyone to do. 

The "call" would have no leadership authority, nor any members to carry it out.

And you complain about not being able to have an honest conversation.

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Antifa is a "fake" organization - a phantom bogeyman created by far-right anarchists and white supremacists to smear their opponents. It comes right out of the Repub Dirty Tricks manual written by Roger Stone and used by Nixon...

They’d rather be sheep to their fake news MSM and believe the false flag, that it’s some magical unspecified group; Antifa.

The alt-right once again creates a boogeyman, this week’s “socialism”, and then tries to attribute all society’s ills.

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twitter accounts don’t burn, loot or assault nor force any person to do so

the account didn’t even exist until Sunday night. Oops

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Arson of property is a serious crime

Arson of Federal property...now thats just dumb

Nobody stays out in front of the law forever

What Trump and team are doing is smart

Allot of you...are calling him Capt bone spurs in the bunker

But your heros in plain view...once this is all done...uh oh

Id hate to be them

Only way out is if Biden wins and pardons them

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twitter accounts don’t burn, loot or assault nor force any person to do so

That’s correct. It’s the white supremesists behind the accounts that do it.

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both civil damages and criminal punishment

all for a few days of thrills because you had to "shelter in place"

and wanted to vent

Not very smart bunch

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twitter accounts don’t burn, loot or assault nor force any person to do so

So how many more far-right, pro-Trump groups created false Antifa accounts?

How may more "Proud Boys" and "Minuteman Militia" members are out causing mayhem and violence?

Again, you either got played or were in on the con - which is it?

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I don't like Trump, but I really hate these criminals who are looting and burning down shops and businesses. CNN says, "Oh, the police are attacking peaceful protesters!" But how does CNN know they're peaceful? How are the police supposed to distinguish between the criminals and peaceful demonstrators? And judging from what I've seen on TV, it looks a lot like predominantly one racial group.

Three's only one thing to do . . . Go home! The criminals have ruined it for the peaceful demonstration and properly respecting the memory of George Floyd. If these looters and arsonists were coming down my street and threatening to destroy my business, I would want the police to use whatever means necessary to protect me, my family and my livelihood. I'm a law abiding and tax paying citizen and deserve more respect than these criminals do.

Shut down all of the demonstrations and you'll shutdown all of this looting and arson. It's the only way, and I don't say that because I like Trump either because I don't. This chaos and anarchy plays right into the hands of the far right.

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Diversions to white supremacist or other non nonsensical conspiracy theories dont erase footage, buddy.

I saw several people of all races, running into bldgs and looting, one guy in his car with license plate in plain view

Such brilliant minds you align yourself with.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Lobbing insults protected by his praetorian guard, in or out of the bunker. Very brave.

Some seem confused about what opposing fascism is - quite an easy explanation is this: anyone who stands up or at the least; is against fascism/bigotry/oppression is anti-fascist. Or, "antifa" as some like to call it.

You can't jail an ideology. Personally, I was informed by relations fighting against fascism and imperialism in the last war. Also, the Civil Rights movement (esp. post Bloody Sunday), the Dunnes Stores strikers, the hunger strikes of Bobby Sands (MP) and others, and the murder of Blair Peach. Far too many examples to reel off here.

There's no central command, no official magazine (that I'm aware of), no signing up, no spokeperson etc. It's a loose collective of like-minded people across the globe. Some condone violent tactics, some espouse peaceful methods. Some use the internet to link up, some are online activists, some are solo, some take to the streets, some wave banners, some try to mediate, some agitate. Like any ideology, there are those who do the cause harm and those who don't.

There's some very disingenuous chatter about it, some are trying to make out that they've not heard of WW2, Cable Street and other conflicts that put anti-fascists in the frontline.

Their tactics are transparent and tiresome.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

No need for Trump to make no speeches

Let them hype it up...dig their own hole

kind of idiotic if you think about it.

Talk about rinse and repeat...geez.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

It is an organized and concerted destabilization campaign with one goal: destroy America.

Yes, but it'll be ousted from the White House sooner or later. Then the restructuring of the States can begin.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Diversions to white supremacist or other non nonsensical conspiracy theories dont erase footage, buddy.

No, only police are allowed to do that.

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No need for Trump to make no speeches

Yeah. It’s not like he’s the leader of a nation that’s burning down around him or anything.

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@stormcrow..

They are too ignorant to understand the system

They mistake inaction for tolerance of their deeds

The system will let you dig your own hole, then

claim ignorance of the law is no excuse

and bury you. Short term fun has very long

term consequences. These people should know better

in this day and age. The system never forgets; putting people away

for things even alleged decades ago. Footage with you acting a fool and committing

felonies? How dumb can you be?

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

dear leader , trump got the police to tear gas, fire rubber bullets at peaceful protestors, just because he wanted to go to Church.

However when the Klansmen in Michigan threatened the legislators, all of whom had to wear bullet proof vests to go to work, dear leader encouraged his followers!!

Did it have something to do with the color of the people I wonder???

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Wow just wow very sad times for America what was the greatest Country on Earth has been ripped to pieces...May the American people learn a lesson from this never put a bankrupt snake oil salesman as your president....God Bless America..

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Or it is Antifa. Which it is. Per the arrest reports

Again, you either got played or were in on the con - which is it?

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

No need for Trump to make no speeches

A leader who is a good communicator would speak to the nation to try to calm things down, not ramp up anger and further divide the country. But Trump is a leader in title only and a terrible communicator. Plus the majority of Americans have tuned him out after having heard him 'intentionally misinform' so many times followed by saying he never said that followed by saying he was being sarcastic.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Wow just wow very sad times for America what was the greatest Country on Earth has been ripped to pieces...

For people of color, it has never been great. It's been murderous and misery for many.

For all the nations who have suffered because of its imperialism, it's been torture, coups and juntas.

AmeriKKKa is coming to a close. I wish the new America that needs to rise from ashes the best of luck, love and equality for all.

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Wow, just watched Trump's "photo op" in front of the church with his bible in his hand...he has obviously been having more "off the record" phone calls and getting tyrant tips from his BFF Putin...

First he had the police and National Guard clear our peaceful protesters in the area - denying all of them their Constitutional right to protest...

Then he takes his Putin-like photo op - I'm surprised he didn't try to take his shirt off - thank goodness he didn't...

Donald Trump in front of a church holding a bible....stand back, the lightning bolt is definitely coming...

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After decades of homicidal acts and brutality towards minorities and the poor perpetrated by the police without fear of sanction thanks to the carte blanche to kill and 100% impunity guaranteed by authoritarian "Big Gov'mint", George Floyd's cold-blooded murder, fortuitously captured on camera, was simply the "straw that broke the camel's back". Everybody knows that anger at the structural inequality and injustice of Amerika and NOT "anti-fa" is fueling the energy of the protesters. Scapegoating is the knee-jerk strategy of all cowardly and unscrupulous politicians, but people can see right through the hypocrisy of the old Pharisee who totes a Bible and makes a big show of "attending" church. As a "real", respected president once said: you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Or it is Antifa. Which it is. Per the arrest reports

That you haven't seen.

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This fool had a photo-op in front of a burnt-out church, and he couldn't even pretend to make it look realistic. Holding up a bible like it's exhibit A. I bet he doesn't even know the first word in the bible.

Did you ask him?

There are reports that he was so embarrassed that everyone found out he was hiding in a bunker,

Reports as in: probable, alleged

he couldn't wait to go into damage control and shamelessly do this photo-op with his mafia crew.

What? Mafia? He shot someone?

As some one said, what a little man.

The rioters are less than men

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@Stormcrow

You are so right!

Being on the street is now past its sell by date.

It should be evident for protestors of any color to understand that violence is not going to change anything.

I would hope that black people come together and press (peacefully) for real change...

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So lets get this straight

For the last 3.5 years its been nothing but ridicule everytime the Pres tries to do anything to unite.

now suddenly, you want him to say something to soothe you?

Do you really expect us to believe that?

These people aint fooling nobody. They were shut up in their houses and now want to vent

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

destroy America.

Yup, Trump's doing that with his racism and dictatorial demagoguery.

Nope, he's doing his best to save America, and so sorry to disappoint you, but he's going to succeed.

No one says that except for Trump, his cult and Fox News.

Chris Wallace, Juan Williams and Donna Brazile ( she helped Hillary to cheat in the 2016 election ) despise Trump.

And some in the far right continue to support Russia.

Russia Russia Russia! Are you seriously still kicking that dead horse? That must be getting pretty nasty by now...

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For the last 3.5 years its been nothing but ridicule everytime the Pres tries to do anything to unite.

You know 'Fine people on both sides' does not unite!

Though a certain type of people might think it does.....

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Russia Russia Russia! Are you seriously still kicking that dead horse? That must be getting pretty nasty by now..

If I read something from a reliable source, not from global alt right kook media, not something from the Kremlin or one of the social media accounts it sponsors nor one of its media outlets showing evidence Russia did not meddle in the 2016 US elections and is not meddling now I might consider dropping the subject. But hades will probably freeze over first. Those who wear T shirts saying 'I'd rather be Russian than Democrat' and have long supported Russian interference in the US have admitted which side they're on.

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For the last 3.5 years its been nothing but ridicule everytime the Pres tries to do anything to unite.

Given how dishonest Trump has always been, it would be hard to believe a single thing he says. Especially about wanting to unite the country. Were he to do so, it could be interpreted by his white national base that he's no longer their guy. The 2020 election's too close; Trump can't risk losing a key group like them.

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Given how dishonest Trump has always been

so your still looking for a soothing speach? Im confused, what do you want?

BTW, how are the corona #s? any updates?

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BTW, how are the corona #s? any updates?

Earlier I posted 107,000 and growing: all on Trump's watch, BTW

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so your still looking for a soothing speach? Im confused, what do you want?

A soothing speech from Trump? Good one. ROFL

0 ( +2 / -2 )

The alt right has gone so far right with their white-supremacist backed Antifa, that they have actually gone full circle and become the far left.

The irony.

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To fight anarchy the 2nd amendment proves to be more valuable than ever.

The Second Amendment reads:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

Its the most misinterpreted amendment in the constitution, because people INCLUDING THE NRA, completely disregard the first four words: *"a well REGULATED militia". How is a bunch of right winged lunatics walking into a Walmart store toting semi-automatic weapons "well regulated"?*

America does have a well regulated militia....it's called the US MILITARY! But they should NEVER be used against Americans. The military was put in place to fight tyranny from abroad, and Trump has cemented himself as being a fascist dictator, for ordering them against American citizens.

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For the last 3.5 years its been nothing but ridicule everytime the Pres tries to do anything to unite.

What? He’s never even once tried to unite.

His tweets prove it.

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The great divider strikes again!

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-230300318.html

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must be so concerned.

Having had a healthy, middle aged friend die from Covid19 I have been personally concerned. She died under Trump's watch. Her family and friends are also well aware it was under Trump's watch.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Worst president in us history. These are terrible times and he only wants to let everyone know that he is great. Hope the next election fixes this problem.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Left or Right,Left or Right?

It is tiring and archaic to keep on reading it.

Some posters want to focus on the political aspect that correlates with their world view.

It is completely narrow,blinkered and divisive.

The real issue is what measures are going to be put in place to stop the militarization of US police and to quell the ability of the police to use lethal force in incidents that do not require it.

A strong focus on the real issues ...plz.

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Given how dishonest Trump has always been, it would be hard to believe a single thing he says.

No one believes the Democrats either, especially Joe and Biden.

Especially about wanting to unite the country.

Biden sure can’t.

Were he to do so, it could be interpreted by his white national base that he's no longer their guy.

Minorities wouldn’t give Trump a chance or Biden now more than ever.

The 2020 election's too close; Trump can't risk losing a key group like them.

Biden has to make sure he doesn’t continue to screw up with blacks, he already put his foot in his mouth twice.

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But enough pride inside not to let that show

My brother had a book he would hold with pride

A little red cover with a broken spine

In the back he hand wrote a quote inside

When the rich wage war, it’s the poor who die

Meanwhile, the leader just talks away

Stuttering and mumbling

For nightly news to replay

And the rest of the world

Watching at the end of the day

Both scared and angry

Like what did he say?

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So lets get this straight

For the last 3.5 years its been nothing but ridicule everytime the Pres tries to do anything to unite.

Trump has never tried to unite anyone except his hate-filled, white supremacist base - you know, some of those "very fine people".

now suddenly, you want him to say something to soothe you?

No, I want him to resign immediately before more of his supporters burn and loot our cities - and the COVID toll goes over 200K...

Do you really expect us to believe that?

For folks that believe 5G networks cause Corona and JFK Jr is till alive? No, we don't expect you to believe anything...

These people aint fooling nobody. They were shut up in their houses and now want to vent

Yep, in their basements, with their Confederate flags and arsenals of guns - all watching Hannity, Ingraham and Pirro...

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No one believes the Democrats either, especially Joe and Biden.

Do you... do you know who the main political figures in the US are?

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As children we all read with amusement Hans Christian Andersen's story, "The Emperor's New Clothes", so why is it that as adults so many of us fail to recognize the obvious ineptitude and mendacity of this pathetic person masquerading as president? What has happened to the hearts of those pitiful people who are unable to see the plain truth when they look into that unforgiving mirror the genial Dane held up to us in order to help free ourselves from our hypocrisy and self-delusion. Despite the smoke and mirrors of Trump's bellicose rhetoric, this crisis will only come to an end when the American people decide it is time to clean up the mess and move on.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Turns out Trump had the right idea, wrong timing. Now it’s time to Make America Great Again.

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Does anyone remember this? I do!

During Ferguson Protests, Trump Blamed The Guy In The White House

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-obama-ferguson-george-floyd-killing-083709061.html

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Only dictators and tyrants feel the need to deploy the country's military against it's own people. Police state? You supported Trump, and now he's trying to enforce a police state to control our country.

A reminder to those in our armed forces. You're to uphold the constitution of the US and protect the citizens of the country. The CIC wants you to hold up arms against your family, friends, and loved ones believing that you are there to serve only him and his cronies in the government and not the people of this country. He is blatantly violating the US constitution which you took an oath to protect this country and especially it's citizens with. Make a choice. Do you support a dictator or do you support the country?

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The Church photo op/propaganda usage of St. John's Episcopal Church by Trump was without permission nor approval by the Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde...episcopal diocese of Washington. Trump used it as a backdrop for a message she said was antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything the churches stand for. She was outraged he waved the bible without true belief.

He did not pray at the church nor did he acknowledge the agony of the country and particularly the people of color, at the church. He only stood there, took a picture and spun the church for his own image and good, right after militaristic and violent firings of gas and rubber bullets to the protestors, outside the WH. He did not go to church to pray for peace and goodness.

He used the House of Jesus, and this house was appalled and were very anti-Trump for his continued poor behavior that spilled to their church.

Also, the church distanced themselves from the incendiary language of Trump, they aligned themselves with non violence and sacrificial love, of which they support those seeking justice for the death of George Floyd, through peaceful protest.

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Another thing we need to give trump credit for being right on: I think we’re all tired of his winning now.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Defend the people of the United States. Defend the constitutional rights of citizens in the United States. All you have to do is just stand down and not obey orders if either he or Pompeo demands that you show up on your own soil to point any kind of arms at your fellow Americans.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Worst president in us history.

Nah, he's actually the greatest president in U.S. history. Even Lincoln didn't have all the problems that have been thrown at Trump.

Hope the next election fixes this problem.*

Hillary's not going to fix anything, she's going to prison. Oh, you think Biden's going to be the nominee in Nov.? I suppose it's possible...

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BTW, how are the corona #s? any updates?

currently stands at 103000, estimate 130000 once its all over, as long as there isnt a second wave of infections

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Our dear leader trump wanted to make up for cowering in a bunker yesterday by marching to St Johns.

He had all the secret service around him but was still as scared as yesterday, along with his shaking cronies!!

Another fail!!

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dear president, trump thinks people will forget his disastrous handling of the coronavirus because of his new circus act.

People will now remember him not only for the coronavirus disaster but also his failure at keeping America united, once gain.

So much for winning!!!

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Biden sure can’t.

he can do a hell of a lot better than Trump, what has Trump done to unite the country?

hes only about control and hes failing miserably at that

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Nah, he's actually the greatest president in U.S. history.

He's the greatest coward as a president in US history, at least.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Uh-oh....Trump get's criticized on Fox - we all know what that means....

*Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host, expressed dismay at President Donald Trump’s leadership on Monday, criticizing the president’s handling of mass protests that have engulfed cities across the country and singling out an influential member of his family.*

*Carlson, who often uses his show to ardently defend the president and attack Trump’s foes, lambasted the nation’s leaders across the political spectrum for letting protests get out of hand. He also went after Jared Kushner, saying “no one has more contempt” for the president’s supporters than Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser. He accused Kushner of breaking starkly from Trump’s platform and talking Trump out of taking decisive actions.*

We'll see a change from the WH tomorrow reflecting the Fox line....

By the way, how many Trump supporters here agree with Tucker? Do you think Jared Kushner mocks you?

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wtfjapan

BTW, how are the corona #s? any updates?

currently stands at 103000, estimate 130000 once its all over, as long as there isnt a second wave of infections

Why do think that the president doesn't want this to end?

He needs some photo-ops to distract from his responsibility in the death of 100,000 people and 40 million unemployed!

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Watch some rioters play "catch the tear gas"

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcease/status/1267582823428501508

BOOOOM: SHERIFF TO RIOTERS: I HIGHLY RECOMMEND RESIDENTS SHOOT YOU DEAD

https://twitter.com/FOX13News/status/1267539936401592320

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Police wouldn’t shoot you if you were being peaceful.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

Unfortunately, the longer these protests go on, the more likely Trump 2020 win is.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Police wouldn’t shoot you if you were being peaceful.

This isn't true.

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@otherworldy

Police wouldn’t shoot you if you were being peaceful.

Video evidence shows, otherwise!

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Jared Kushner, saying “no one has more contempt” for the president’s supporters than Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser. He accused Kushner of breaking starkly from Trump’s platform and talking Trump out of taking decisive actions.*

Kushner's with Trump every day. He must be witnessing Trump's decline and worrying that he and Ivanka will lose their privileged positions inside the WH and thereby lose chances to make millions more during these final months of the Trump regime.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Anyone one and everyone, republican or democrat should be calling a stop to the looting the rioting and the lawlessness instead of just slagging the leader of the nation.

Wreck your neighbourhood instead of voting in a couple of months time shows how intelligent you are doesnt it ! Live in the devastation you created for years instead of trying to make things better you make things worse !

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Unfortunately, the longer these protests go on, the more likely Trump 2020 win is.

The protests are on Trump's watch. As are the 107,000 corona virus deaths. As is the collapsed economy. Among the millions of people made unemployed under Trump's watch, the millions made homeless, the millions standing in food lines, the millions with little hope left are many who'd vote for Elmer Fudd before Trump.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

And now we know the real reason Trump went to church today - so he could pray there won't be more conservative media pundits who will ridicule and humiliate him....

Last week conservative icon Ann Coulter said Trump was; "the most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office."

This week you have conservative bellwether Tucker Carlson questioning Trump's leadership and saying Jared Kushner has contempt for Trump's supporters.

My, my, who's next?

Do Trump supporters here agree with Ann and Tucker?

4 ( +7 / -3 )

ptownsend

If I read something from a reliable source, not from global alt right kook media, not something from the Kremlin or one of the social media accounts it sponsors nor one of its media outlets showing evidence Russia did not meddle in the 2016 US elections and is not meddling now I might consider dropping the subject

So you are asking doubters to prove a negative? That is how religionists argue.

In the rational world, the one who makes the claim shows the proof. You make the meddling claim, you show the proof.

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

Police wouldn’t shoot you if you were being peaceful.

Just as they won't asphyxiate unarmed civilians, right?

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