world

Trump visits Kenosha, calls violence 'domestic terrorism'

105 Comments
By ZEKE MILLER and JONATHAN LEMIRE

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© Copyright 2020 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.

©2021 GPlusMedia Inc.


105 Comments

Comments have been disabled You can no longer respond to this thread.

Trump has got to go. His ideology is no better than Hitler's.

3 ( +25 / -22 )

Pressed by reporters, Trump repeatedly pivoted away from assessing any sort of structural racism in the nation or its police departments

Pretty much sums it up.

2 ( +22 / -20 )

Let’s not forget that Trump chose to campaign in New Hampshire before this. Someone tell me again how great of a president Trump is.

-4 ( +11 / -15 )

Trump is Great. (you ASKED for it)

-1 ( +16 / -17 )

Domestic terrorism like white nationalists and militias who have been emboldened by Trump's rhetoric? You know, far-right terrorist, the largest domestic terrorist groups in the US that make up most of the attacks.

11 ( +26 / -15 )

True leadership on full display. DJT: Greatest. President. Ever.

-16 ( +14 / -30 )

They asked him not to come because they assumed he would stir things up and make it worst. He still came and did exactly what the Mayor predicted.

6 ( +20 / -14 )

“Militias” have to take action if governors and mayors too weak to control their streets. Police have been made inactive so the rioters can surround and beat up any white person walking down the street in downtown Portland who’s not Antifa. Of course Trump has to take action on that.

-8 ( +13 / -21 )

When black people learn to act calmly with law enforcement then maybe there will be more peace in the US!

-7 ( +15 / -22 )

You know, far-right terrorist, the largest domestic terrorist groups in the US that make up most of the attacks.

That is some amazing investigative journalism there, but I think you forgot to include your references page.

-8 ( +10 / -18 )

This is Trump's campaign plan - stir up as much anger and hate as possible.

And the American public are willing accomplices.

The Internet is full of nonsense, doctored videos, trumped up conspiracies, lies, distortions, paid trolls, fake networks and news.

6 ( +17 / -11 )

Let’s see what some posters think is “great leadership”:

*President Donald Trump stood at the epicenter of the latest eruption over racial injustice Tuesday and came down squarely on the side of law enforcement, blaming “domestic terror” for the violence in Kenosha and making no nod to the underlying cause of anger and protests — the shooting of a yet another Black man by police.*

1 ( +15 / -14 )

Look at the protests in the United States. Then look at the US government's reaction to these protests, and the US and international media (aka English language media)'s reaction to the US government's reaction.

Then look at the protests in Hong Kong. Now look at the Chinese govt's reaction to these protests, and the US and int'l media (aka English language media)'s reaction to the Chinese government's reaction.

In Hong Kong, you have a separatist mob that burs buildings, attacks innocent people, sets people on fire, throws Molotov cocktail at the police, causes mayhem and blocks the entire city. Attacks the local and central government, and demands separatism. China does nothing for months. Then passes a security law, which already exists in every single developed country in order to stop the foreign NGO's funding these separatists, stop the mayhem, and the separatist movement. Then it's being accused of "cracking down on Hong Kong".

Then you have the US protests. Nobody is set on fire. Innocent people are not attacked. Protesters do not want separatism. Yet the same people in the US govt. who demonize and attack China over their response to HK, now demand US military be send and "shoot the thugs". Then you have the US president calling them "domestic terrorists". Just try to imagine if the US protesters actually did 1/1000th of what the rioters do in Hong Kong. Compare the media's reaction to both protests. The double standards are unbelievable. It's truly a world in which you either smoke, or you get smoked. You either dominate, or you are dominated. You are either on the table, or on the menu. There's no in between. Sad story.

-16 ( +5 / -21 )

Man, its not enough that he’s allowed a pandemic to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and tens of millions unemployed. Now he wants his country to burn too.

1 ( +15 / -14 )

Once again trump is claiming that the people can’t vote for Biden because under Biden the country would look like it does under trump.

And the morons cheer.

5 ( +19 / -14 )

He’s come to see how his ‘plan’ is going. Divide, blame, etc.

The tone-deafness of this creep’s obvious and cynical bias towards fascism knows no boundaries.

4 ( +14 / -10 )

Can’t talk about his miserable handling of the Pandemic. Cut off questions not directed to him. Ignore the cause of protests and focus on the symptoms. Get as many shots of him and cops, him and property destruction. Compare getting shot 7 times in the back to missing a golf putt AGAIN. Spin fact free (In the words of one resident fact checker “Almost too stupid to fact check”) conspiracies.

Trump is easily the worst president in US history. Today was just example #1,378. I might need to add a couple of zeros.

4 ( +16 / -12 )

Sorry Trump, but you can't call one domestic terrorism without identifying the other as well. Yes, the violence shown in protests is wrong, but so are people killed by white supremacist groups. It's just unfortunate that a few bad apples have to spoil it for the whole bunch. Just like the 17 year-old shooter who flipped and spoiled it for the rest of the gun-carrying militia.

Most of the protesters are there without weapons and protesting peacefully. Unfortunately, there are criminals who loot and cause property damage while taking advantage of the cover given in the crowds. The police are not doing themselves any favors too, as they have been helping to escalate the violence, pitting the right and left against each other.

-2 ( +10 / -12 )

In Hong Kong, you have a separatist mob that burs buildings, attacks innocent people, sets people on fire, throws Molotov cocktail at the police, causes mayhem and blocks the entire city. 

Apples and oranges, sir!

In plain English and easily translatable into every language of the world, thus comprehensible to all mankind (even to the dimmest authoritarian rulers) is the people's cry:

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!

0 ( +8 / -8 )

Kinda weird how the FBI labels white supremacists and all their murders as the greatest domestic terrorism threat we face, and all Trump says is that "some of them are nice people."

Some burned buildings by the left? "THIS IS DOMESTIC TERRORISM."

-1 ( +11 / -12 )

Trump main target is ignorant Whites, which are thankful ,will not get him reelected

0 ( +9 / -9 )

That is some amazing investigative journalism there, but I think you forgot to include your references page.

The proof is out there. You're a smart person right? You can use google and see for yourself. Why would I waste the effort for someone who has already made up their mind despite the facts staring them in the face?

1 ( +7 / -6 )

making no nod to the underlying cause of anger and protests — the shooting of a yet another Black man by police.

Change the race baiting "yet another Black man" to "criminal engaging in yet another crime" and you have a different perspective.

Pressed by reporters, Trump repeatedly pivoted away from assessing any sort of structural racism in the nation or its police departments

Pretty much sums it up.

There are bad cops. The vast majority are good and protect everyone regardless of race.

Pretty much sums it up.

Can’t talk about his miserable handling of the Pandemic

Trump shut down travel from China Jan. 31. Biden would not have.

Trump is easily the worst president in US history.

No, he's easily the best president in U.S. history.

The police are not doing themselves any favors too, as they have been helping to escalate the violence, pitting the right and left against each other.

Again, there are bad cops. The vast majority are good and protect everyone regardless of race.

Voting for Harris-Biden is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

-7 ( +7 / -14 )

I will be so glad to see Trump in the rearview mirror of history.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

[Trump] said he tried to call the Blake’s mother but opted against it after the family asked that a lawyer listen in.

Why would he be reluctant to have a lawyer listening in, unless he thought he might say something embarrassing or incriminating by mistake and then forget saying it?

-1 ( +8 / -9 )

Serrano:. Change the race baiting "yet another Black man" to "criminal engaging in yet another crime" and you have a different perspective.

Why didn't Trump say that? Too weak?

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Kinda weird how the FBI labels white supremacists and all their murders as the greatest domestic terrorism threat we face, and all Trump says is that "some of them are nice people."

Correction, he said both sides including Antifa.

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/antifa-dangerous-and-its-time-the-feds-step

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

Biden, in his most direct attacks yet, accused Trump on Monday of causing the divisions that have ignited the violence.

I'm with Joe Biden: violence is not an acceptable form of political action, and criminal actions have to be called out, whether they're on the right or the left.

If you bring a gun to a demonstration, you're being a jerk. If flash it around to intimidate people, you're being a terrorist. If you shoot someone, you're a criminal.

Biden has made a stand against violence. 

Why can't Trump?

2 ( +10 / -8 )

I will be so glad to see Trump in the rearview mirror of history.

You can rejoice Jan. 20, 2025 when Trump hands over the presidency to the next Republican president. :D

Serrano:. Change the race baiting "yet another Black man" to "criminal engaging in yet another crime" and you have a different perspective.

Why didn't Trump say that? Too weak?

So Trump is supposed to refute everything the fake media puts out? He'd be all day doing that and wouldn't get anything else done. Too weak, SuperLib.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

Why would he be reluctant to have a lawyer listening in,

Why not? Why would a lawyer want to listen? Hat should be the underlining question.

unless he thought he might say something embarrassing or incriminating by mistake and then forget saying it?

Or their lawyer is looking for a case for entrapment. I wouldn’t take the bait either.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Bass:. Correction, he said both sides including Antifa.

I appreciate your right-wing blog opinion piece saying Antifa should be labeled as terrorists, but I'm going to go ahead and stick with the FBI who say white supremacists are the vast majority of domestic terrorism cases they are tracking.

Thanks.

10 ( +15 / -5 )

Serrano:. So Trump is supposed to refute everything the fake media puts out?

Well they asked him directly during a press conference multiple times.

He ran.

7 ( +13 / -6 )

I appreciate your right-wing blog opinion

Correction, American opinion not right or left, just basic common sense.

piece saying Antifa should be labeled as terrorists, but I'm going to go ahead and stick with the FBI who say white supremacists are the vast majority of domestic terrorism cases they are tracking.

The Same people that drove the Russian collusion delusion? The same organization that employed Strzok, McCabe, Page, Comey......ROFL, ok....

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

Trump and the GOP are using the same rhetoric that the terrorists in the Middle East use to recruit the young and impressionable. They’re coming for your family/jobs/lifestyle/freedom. It creates terrorists there, is there any reason why the same type of rhetoric wouldn’t create terrorists in America?

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Bass:. The Same people that drove the Russian collusion delusion? The same organization that employed Strzok, McCabe, Page, Comey......ROFL, ok....

So you think the FBI is lying about white supremacists dominating their domestic terrorism agenda? Something that can easily be confirmed?

No law against that. Believe it all you want.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

@kurisupu

When black people learn to act calmly with law enforcement then maybe there will be more peace in the US!

Really? Here is something for your lack of knowledge. I was a passenger in my cousins M6. He's a fund manager at AllainceBernstein. They pulled us over when we just pulled out of the parking space. The officer came up with his gun drawn and told us that we F**king drug dealers stole the car and demanded we step out the vehicle. My cousin was not disrespectful in any way. Didn't even have a chance to respond.

My other friend. A white female. She got stopped for running the light. She cursed the cop out from the moment he walked up to the window and all he did was let her off with a warning.

Vast majority of black people act calmly. However, every interaction has the ability to be your last when you are black and dealing with police. Even I was scared to call the police when my GSX250 was stolen. I was even more terrified when they started interrogating me and asked me to go into the back of the police car when all I did was call the police about my stolen bike.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

I think calling out the violence for what it is was the right thing to do. I don't see how that can be criticized by a rational person.

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

If there was violence going on the last 3 months and Dems thought Trump was actually responsible, do you think the Dems would have been silent about it since May?

Wouldnt they have been calling it out every day and talking about it nonstop at the DNC?

Those bad polls sure got their attention. tripping all over themselves to denounce the violence now (without indicating who is doing or telling them directly to stop).

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

When black people learn to act calmly with law enforcement then maybe there will be more peace in the US!

Why do you think that black people might not always act calmly with police?

Might there be a reason?

5 ( +11 / -6 )

Ever considered that Donald Trump (Dt) is the chief Domestic Terrorist (dt)? Supporting an under-age feral who travelledinterstae from his home in Illinois simply to incite violence

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Correction, American opinion not right or left, just basic common sense.

The Heritage Foundation is a well-known right-wing thinktank.

If the GOP don't like antifa, then there's a really good way to get rid of them: stop being fascists, stop enabling fascists. Without fascism, there can't be anti-fascist action. It's really that simple.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Hey Trump people! It seems Trump wants to go to Kenosha for what? But for some reason he stopped going to Dover to honor those slain soldiers coming home:

Trump Stopped Going to Dover AFB To Receive Bodies After Getting Berated On First Visit

(recent news)

Search and read that story about the coward Trump. Even Bush Jr. sucked it up while getting yelled at by bereaved parents. Is Trump really your hero? Really? He even lies about it.

Further....

“It’s one thing to not go. It’s another thing to lie about it,” added Fred Wellman, a retired 22-year Army officer and helicopter pilot who served in Desert Storm and who now works with the anti-Trump group The Lincoln Project.

He said he recalls a visit by former President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, to meet families of troops killed in Iraq. “They got yelled at. And Mr. and Mrs. Bush took it,” Wellman said. “He felt it was his duty to accept that. Obviously Mr. Trump doesn’t feel that way. Mr. Trump doesn’t take responsibility for anything.”

4 ( +9 / -5 )

If the GOP don't like antifa, then there's a really good way to get rid of them: stop being fascists, stop enabling fascists. Without fascism, there can't be anti-fascist action. It's really that simple

They don’t like to address that Antifa is the natural extremist response to the extremism of the right. It messes with their narrative.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Blacklabel: If there was violence going on the last 3 months and Dems thought Trump was actually responsible, do you think the Dems would have been silent about it since May?

This is an example of how the media and the Dems can turn on a dime to create an alternative narrative to support their political ideology. For months the media have been downplaying the violence in major American cities related to the Black Lives Matter protests and their Antifa allies. Now with more murders occurring due to the power vacuum local and state Dem leaders have created - now there is a problem. And of course it’s somehow Trumps fault. What a joke.

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

You can rejoice Jan. 20, 2025 when Trump hands over the presidency to the next Republican president. :D

He won't leave anyway even if he loses the general election. He's a coward who never wants to go to Dover to face the loved ones of fallen solders, but will never leave the WH even if he loses. Even GWB went to Dover.

They don’t like to address that Antifa...

...never commits murders like open Trump people such as Dylann Roof or Patrick Crusius

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

You are either on the table, or on the menu. 

correction: at the table (or you might also be on the menu)

Now he wants his country to burn too.

...while he watches trash TV and plays golf.

Again, there are bad cops. The vast majority are good and protect everyone regardless of race.

...which is mere right-wing boiler plate, a gross simplification of the deep racial malaise that has poisoned the roots of the republic since the the Declaration of Independence. And one more thing, while Trump's daily ranting and raving about "left-wing" ideology sucks up all his oxygen, where is the mention of the insidious "right-wing" ideology, which everybody knows, is in the driver's seat of Amerikan political correctness and steering the country in the wrong direction? And four more years of orange mayhem will only drive America into the ditch.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

The Heritage Foundation is a well-known right-wing thinktank.

So I should use every left-wing think tank? No opposing viewpoints or facts?

If the GOP don't like antifa, then there's a really good way to get rid of them:

Use the National Guard.

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

Why do you think that black people might not always act calmly with police?

Have you read the FBI stats lately? I have and they’re not good for blacks.

Might there be a reason?

That’s the reason

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

JJetplane

Vast majority of black people act calmly. However, every interaction has the ability to be your last when you are black and dealing with police

Even when you don´t resist arrest? In ALL the videos I have seen, regardless what filter you put on it, resisting arrest was the common factor for getting shot. Yes, maybe some cops are bad, but I wonder what the statistics say about people getting shot by cops when not resisting arrest.

-2 ( +7 / -9 )

Trump visits Kenosha, calls violence 'domestic terrorism'

Of course, the media bash him no matter what, but he is correct. Burning down building, sometimes with people in them, rioting and looting is domestic terrorism. The CNN label of "peaceful protests" is ridiculous. It is high time someone looks at the funding for Antifa... the Antifa hardcore seem to have a lot of ressources to travel and cause mayhem.

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

4 more years of this??No way.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Burning down building[s] (sic), sometimes with people in them

Which buildings specifically and what people in them?

Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study

(news source)

Compared to Dylann Roof or Patrick Crusius ANTIFA are a bunch of nobodies

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

So I should use every left-wing think tank? No opposing viewpoints or facts?

You never use anything other than far-right sources. Why start now?

Use the National Guard.

Bass just casually advocating feds commit indiscriminate murder here. Always good to see.

3 ( +9 / -6 )

Have you read the FBI stats lately? I have and they’re not good for blacks.

I thought you didn't trust the FBI.

4 ( +10 / -6 )

True leadership on full display. DJT: Greatest. President. Ever.

DJT: reelect me so I can fix the monumental fracken mess Ive created

3 ( +9 / -6 )

Of course, the media bash him no matter what, but he is correct. Burning down building, sometimes with people in them, rioting and looting is domestic terrorism.

and yet nearly all the deaths from domestic terrorism have been by right wing nutters

3 ( +11 / -8 )

Even when you don´t resist arrest? In ALL the videos I have seen, regardless what filter you put on it, resisting arrest was the common factor for getting shot. 

If you want to get to the root of the problem of the conditions for black Americans you have to look past the ‘systemic racism’ lie and examine the reasons for the inability to deal with authority in a mature way. It starts at home and in the village. No fathers present means instability and the inability to socialize in constructive ways. The same problem is also becoming common among Whites and is why twice as many unarmed Whites are killed by cops than blacks.

Resisting arrest is a serious problem for law enforcement. It essentially makes law enforcement impossible. There is no systemic racism in American law enforcement- at least not against black citizens. Their is affirmative action in police recruitment that favors black citizens. There are of course racists in the world. The problem is localized and not a matter of policy to the disadvantage of non-Whites. That is self evidently true but not what drives the media narrative.

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

"Domestic Terrorism"? While those sabotaging actions should be condemned but linking with "Terrorism" is totally doesn't made sense!  We saw that footage,Jacob Blake was uncooperative to police but she shouldn't deserve execution style shootings! Trump never condemn the over violences caused by police!

Trump is deranged!

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

Please relax, you guys use left wing sources so.....

I'm sure you can give an example.

No, but I wish you would call out the thugs that indiscriminately attack, assault, hurt and kill people i

I do call out the police for doing exactly that.

Usually, I don’t, but seeing what’s been unfolding the last 3 months on YouTube and every media outlet it’s looking more like it, sadly.

This doesn't follow. You don't trust the FBI, but you watched a YouTube video and now you do, but only for statistics that you won't post and which you claim prove that police are justified in threatening black people's lives for no reason?

As a reminder, JJ described a personal anecdote where a police officer brandished a firearm at he and his friend for no reason, and you're saying that it was right that a fellow poster's life was threatened because of statistics that only you have access to? Is that right?

0 ( +7 / -7 )

I stopped trying to understand these Dem loon leaders. Its like they are in a death spiral; they not only shoot themselves in the foot, but now have resorted to amputation. I mean how stupid could you be; encourage burn loot and shoot for months, cheers of defund the police, then their cities descend into chaos, the citizens watch as their life is destroyed, police are exhausted, and these loons are trying to get votes from the same people? "its Trumps fault" kinda getting old by now.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

Ever considered that Donald Trump (Dt) is the chief Domestic Terrorist (dt)?

Oh, I get it - Dt = dt! Therefore Donald Trump is a domestic terrorist! Not only that, but the chief one! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

His visit to Kenosha was once again nothing else but a publicity stunt!

He wants to stand in the center, wants to display his (in-)capacity, wants to be the "MAN"!

All he does is make things worse than they already are.

The chief instigator in full action!

1 ( +9 / -8 )

Defund the police! then overwhelm them with violence and blame Trump when you cant deal with it.

What a bunch of morons.

0 ( +10 / -10 )

"its Trumps fault" kinda getting old by now.

Biden is not President and I don't recall these riots under Obama's watch. Trump is a coward that won't face the facts. He's even afraid to visit Dover now because he can't take the criticism from parents of fallen soldiers

1 ( +9 / -8 )

@Serrano you got it! Finally!

tgats exactly what he is.

Both the arsonist and the fire brigade, he visits there, NO MENTION of the cause of all this!! NO MENTION of the deaths by the 17 yo domestic terrorist. Just a group w@&k with the racist cops

0 ( +5 / -5 )

how ingenious! Encourage violence and destroy cities, hide in cowardice and never condemn it...until its too late

Please vote for me! LOL

These idiots have just pushed so many undecided voters to vote for Trump, I mean just how stupid could you be?

0 ( +10 / -10 )

People who support Trump undermine their own credibility to the point that they should simply be dismissed as cranks and crackpots, and ignored.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

Interesting, because I dont see any supporters of Trump calling for defunding the police or burn it all down

In these strange times, that logic is wrong..is that your point? I should join your logic and burn things down? what for? anything accomplished by that? because studies show that after such riots, it sets communities back by decades.

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

I'm sure you can give an example.

CNN, msnbc, Mother Jones, the Nation, MoveOn, NYT, WP etc.....

I do call out the police for doing exactly that.

As I call out the thug rainbow coalition that are rioting throughout the cities and attacking hurting and killing people

This doesn't follow. You don't trust the FBI,

It does because I’m watching hundreds of videos daily and it shows the same crowds doing the same thing throughout the country, so I would tend to agree with the FBI stats given the daily and growing violence we see.

As a reminder, JJ described a personal anecdote where a police officer brandished a firearm at he and his friend for no reason, and you're saying that it was right that a fellow poster's life was threatened because of statistics that only you have access to? Is that right?

Was someone murdered and what were the exact details precipitated these events?

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

It all started with yet another episode of terrorism by police. Since Trump won't properly address the start, I am forced to conclude that he enjoys and benefits from the result.

His ideology is no better than Hitler's.

His ideology IS Hitler's! He got it from his favorite book "My New World Order". I am literally serious.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Was someone murdered and what were the exact details precipitated these events?

Exact details. Walked to the car. Got into the car. Pulled out of the parking spot. Pulled over before we even got to the stoplight.

America police has a systemic issue. While most cops are not bad, the system still overwhelmingly protects the bad ones. Even good cops will stand by bad cops because of the system.

America has a gun problem. Doesn't matter if it's police or not. America has a huge gun problem.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

Man, its not enough that he’s allowed a pandemic to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and tens of millions unemployed. Now he wants his country to burn too.

what utter nonsense! Almost all the countries in the world have serious problems with this virus! Don't you watch the news? oh probably only CNN.

And he wants the country to burn? what? Its clearly the democrat run mayors that want that! You certainly live in a sheltered place! Trump offered months ago to stop this violence but the cities refused

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

nishikat

Burning down building[s] (sic), sometimes with people in them

Which buildings specifically and what people in them?

Pawnshop in Minneapolis, burt down by Antifa, turns out there was someone in there. Also, they been trying to set fire to the police station in Portland while blocking the doors.

antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study

Err, what? Several dozens deaths now from various Antifa activities in the last few week. Just yesterday they executed a Trump supporter.

Maybe you want to expand your news sources a little.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

oh really? strange you wouldnt recall, because they happened.

I don't recall these riots under Obama's watch.

-2 ( +8 / -10 )

I suppose that building in the picture burnt itself down?

0 ( +8 / -8 )

CNN, msnbc, Mother Jones, the Nation, MoveOn, NYT, WP etc.....

This is a list of news outlets, only one of which could possibly be considered "left". I asked you to post examples of my citing exclusively "left" sources as justification for my views.

As I call out the thug rainbow coalition that are rioting throughout the cities and attacking hurting and killing people

The police and the Proud Boys are hardly a "rainbow coalition".

It does because I’m watching hundreds of videos daily

I'd get on with that German translation side-hustle, if I were you.

and it shows the same crowds doing the same thing throughout the country, so I would tend to agree with the FBI stats given the daily and growing violence we see.

You haven't posted any stats. But I'm glad you finally agree with the FBI, which says that white supremacist and right-wing terror groups are easily the biggest domestic terror threat in the US. I'm sure you'll be happy to denounce these Trumpist organisations.

Was someone murdered and what were the exact details precipitated these events?

You're such a cop bootlick that you'd rather invent a scenario in your head that justifies a fellow JT poster being moments from being shot to death for no reason than just believe JJ. Shameful.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Err, what? Several dozens deaths now from various Antifa activities in the last few week. Just yesterday they executed a Trump supporter.

None of this is true.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

Already voted against Trump. No need to talk about it anymore. Just do it. I'm ridin with Biden.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

Antifa are the fascists. They have aligned with the BLM Marxists and use violence to achieve their ideological goals. Fascism.

You have plumbed new depths of the rabbit hole and clearly no longer know which way is up. Antifa is about as fascist as the U.S. military of WWII. You might not like their methods of fighting fascism, and certainly they will fight fire with fire sometimes, but they are literally anti-fascist. As for BLM the founders may be Marxist but the members of that loose, unorganized group know about as much about these things as you. Marxism is as close as you can get to being the opposite of fascism. REAL Marxism anyway.

About the only thing I can give you is that both groups are willing to use violence and oppression to get what they want. But the thing is what they want is an end to the violence and oppression from police and the U.S. government, who are the actual fascists and have made America quite fascist in many respects, from jailing or attempting to jail those who blew the whistle on widespread government surveillance, to unprecedented for-profit mass incarceration, to police training courses where the cops are actually trained and encouraged to unload their weapons on suspects and shoot to kill even when cops only "suspect" a "threat" to their lives. And the system protects the cops except in the most extreme cases of this outright murder. That's fascism and both Antifa and BLM are fighting it. A few shops burned ain't the Reichstag Fire. Its not even comparable to Kristellnacht.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

Antifa Commander!

Matthew Banta, 23, is charged with obstructing an officer and two counts of felony bail jumping.

The criminal complaint says Banta “is known to be a violent Antifa member who incites violence in otherwise relatively peaceful protests.” Police say he’s known as “Commander Red.”

https://www.wbay.com/2020/08/31/neenah-man-arrested-at-green-bay-protest-has-ties-to-antifa/

A responding officer says he saw four individuals walking towards a protest with baseball bats. One man was wearing a metal helmet with goggles and military-style gear with multiple pouches, and was carrying an Antifa flag. When the officer pulled his squad car in front of the group, they ran away. The officer caught Banta, who was carrying the flag, and says Banta “dropped into the fetal position and began crying.” He accused the officer of lying on him; the officer replied nobody was on him.

-2 ( +7 / -9 )

I'm ridin with Biden.

Cool catch phrase. Probably the best thing about that ticket.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

The riots are domestic terrorism. The purposeful harming, maiming, and killing the innocent in order to gain political ends.

The rioters need to cease their activities. Drop their pro-anarchy, violence promoting signs full of vulgarities and return to ACTUALLY PEACEFUL protests.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

The rightists above are pretty organized aren't they?

If only they were actually "right". SMH

Both sides are looking more and more the same if you ask me. When you come upon two guys brawling its hard to tell who started it or what the difference between them is. Thankfully, we have the history of the right's power tripping to help us sort it out. Its all over the internet. And internet discussions have become like a slave and slave master having a conversation about freedom with the slave master insisting that freedom is not as great as it sounds. Sadly the only way the slave master is ever going to relent is by being beaten bloody. And we all know who is the slave master in this story right? RIGHT.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

It's too obvious where the blame and trouble is, but the liberal left and the racist BLM antifa and other destabilising groups wont admit it.

All they have is blame trump, nothing else, how old are these idiots with the brain of a 5 year old , do they not recall history or they want to ignore it or destroy it ...............................yep, they already tried that didnt they.

Fools, ridin with biden, fools, what does biden ride ? Nothing but bad polls .

0 ( +5 / -5 )

While I agree that the extreme left with Antifa is bad, we cannot downplay or ignore the threat from the extreme right with white supremacist groups and fully-armed militias. That is the strategy of Trump and his staunchest supporters. We must condemn violent protests, but we also must not stand for wanton vigilantism. Both are plain wrong.

After watching several videos of the protests, I have come to a conclusion. I can understand the feelings of the people who came fully-armed to try and protect businesses in the area. That is fine, if they stick to protecting those businesses from the violent ones. However, they should not engage the peaceful protesters at all. Waving a gun in unarmed peaceful marching protesters will only incite and anger them. I know I would be angry if I was marching unarmed and someone tried to intimidate me with their weapon. Doing so is only inviting a confrontation, which is what happened in Kenosha.

Then again, it's really the police departments fault because they did nothing to quell the clashes between armed people and protesters. They only made it worse by saying things like "Okay, we're going to close off this street and box them in for you".

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

"ridin with Biden" is somewhat cool.

But unfortunately, "hidin with Biden" also rhymes and is more based in reality.

So why didnt Biden got to Kenosha before Trump did?

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

which is what happened in Portland. Before the armed Antifa protester murdered the unarmed man. Multiple videos of him waving around his gun at people driving by.

In Kenosha, one man was also armed with a Glock and another used a skateboard as a bashing type weapon. The rioters specifically came to the business that was being protected and incited the people protecting it by claiming they would burn it down.

I know I would be angry if I was marching unarmed and someone tried to intimidate me with their weapon. Doing so is only inviting a confrontation, which is what happened in Kenosha.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

People hunting each other in the streets after months of civil unrest.

Trump. Making America Great Again?

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

months of peaceful protests, remember?

By "unarmed" peaceful protesters. who are called "unarmed" despite having bats, knives, guns, skateboards, molotovs, lasers, chunks of concrete, frozen water bottles, gasoline cans for firebombs and other things that are obviously weapons.

months of civil unrest.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

I didn’t imagine I’d see the collapse of America in my lifetime.

No matter who wins, or who pretends they win when they didn’t, there will be riots, murders, and violence in the streets. Mark my words.

Good thing you elected Trump, right Right?

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

His title should be changed from Commander in Chief to Terrorist in Chief.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

I think the "civil unrest" started the day Don Lemon of CNN told Biden he was losing on the law and order issue and needed to come out of the basement and do something cause of the bad polls.

Polls... conveniently there are no Trump approval polls (that Dems recognize) since Aug 25. Wonder why?

So months of peaceful protests and Day 4 of civil unrest, that was already stopped in Kenosha by the National Guard and could be stopped in Portland too in the same way.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

And of course, Trump continues to incite these violent protests by saying such mumbo-jumbo like

"A person was on a plane, said that there were about six people like that person, more or less, and what happened is the entire plane filled up with the looters, the rioters, the anarchists, people that were obviously looking for trouble and the person felt very uncomfortable on the plane,” when recalling that he heard there were a plane filled with anarchists.

“I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now,” said Trump. “But they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention. And there were, like, seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/trump-claims-plane-loaded-with-thugs-anarchists-looters-rioters-165416591.html

I've watched the video and for the life of me, can't understand what he's trying to say.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Yeah because trump approval polls is a thing that exists in the real world right?

2 ( +5 / -3 )

so more of the threats that the violence will only stop if Biden is elected, huh? Kinda confirms who controls the people doing the violence that if Trump loses it just stops, no?

No matter who wins, or who pretends they win when they didn’t, there will be riots, murders, and violence in the streets. Mark my words.

Good thing you elected Trump, right Right?

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

certainly do, come out every week same day same time.

None this week at the scheduled time for the first time this year. wonder why?

Yeah because trump approval polls is a thing that exists in the real world right?

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

existence confirmed

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

So these liberal antifa and BLM activists are saying if they get what they want , Biden, they will stop the rioting?

Is that right?

Sounds to me they are trying to black mail America and hold it to ransom, that is the sort of tactic that terrorists use.

So in fact they are showing their fellow Americans that they are in fact domestic terrorists they are showing the world they are domestic terrorists and everyone can see they are a bunch of scum, so even more reason to not give in.

And every perosn in this world and in America has the right of self defense that's fundamental , so these idiots who want to run with anarchy better understand when the real Americans have had enough of this cr@p they will put a stop to it.

Most just want to get on with their lives, go to work, raise their kids, not live in a wrecked city by a bunch of thugs running wild like spoilt brats holding the country to ransom cause they didnt get their own way.

Most Americans have shown remarkable restraint so far .......watch for the blow back though if these out of control clowns keep pushing.

These antifa & blm activists seem to want civil war, well thats why most Americans own guns.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

By "unarmed" peaceful protesters. who are called "unarmed" despite having bats, knives, guns, skateboards, molotovs, lasers, chunks of concrete, frozen water bottles, gasoline cans for firebombs and other things that are obviously weapons.

That's nothing, I heard that The Official Antifa League of Supersoldiers, a real thing that exists, came with Iran-funded nukes, China-created mega-Covid, and Obama's personal Imperial Guard Mecha-Suit Division.

Of course, you'll never hear about this from the MSM.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

“These are not acts of peaceful protest but, really, domestic terror,” said Trump. 

Right as rain.

Black Lives Matter, Antifa, are American terrorists,

that threaten life, liberty, & property.

They are schoolyard bullies on a mission, without compunction.

We can thank the media for their bit,

egging it on, every step of the way.

They don't desire peace, moderation, or unbiased information distribution,

they stand with anarchy, it's good for their business.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Right as rain.

Black Lives Matter, Antifa, are American terrorists,

that threaten life, liberty, & property.

They are schoolyard bullies on a mission, without compunction.

We can thank the media for their bit,

egging it on, every step of the way.

They don't desire peace, moderation, or unbiased information distribution,

they stand with anarchy, it's good for their business.

That is a very hard statement you can’t deny.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls

Back to trusting polls. Flip-flop.

I love Trump fan’s consistency in being utterly inconsistent. It’s such a transparent standard: if it’s positive or in agreement with Trump, it’s credible beyond questions; if it’s negative or in disagreement with Trump, it’s liberal bias.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

so more of the threats that the violence will only stop if Biden is elected, huh? Kinda confirms who controls the people doing the violence that if Trump loses it just stops, no?

Uhhh . . . Try re-reading the post ti which you replied. It clearly stated,“*No matter who wins**, or who pretends they win when they didn’t, there will be riots, murders, and violence in the streets. Mark my words.*

1 ( +5 / -4 )

That is a very hard statement you can’t deny.

It's unfounded nonsense. It isn't true.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

what utter nonsense! Almost all the countries in the world have serious problems with this virus! Don't you watch the news? oh probably only CNN. 

No, I live in Japan. 1,000 deaths here, 190,000 deaths in the US. Every other developed country in the world has long since reduced its daily death toll to a trickle, but in the US it still tops a thousand per day and has been for months. America is unique in how bad it is doing and most of the blame for that lies with the man at the top pretending it doesn’t exist instead of doing something about it.

And he wants the country to burn? what? Its clearly the democrat run mayors that want that! You certainly live in a sheltered place! Trump offered months ago to stop this violence but the cities refused

Yes I do live in a sheltered place. Japan. Thank god for that, life in Trump’s America looks like a freaking nightmare and you have my pity if that is where you are stuck now.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites