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"North Korea had best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen,"

Someone needs to put parent controls on his twitter account and muzzle him like a rabid dog! His ego is going to get people killed!

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Cool! Do we have a movie clip, preferably something with really fast cars? The Donald likes that.

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As much as I think Trump is a fool not fit for office, there is no doubt that North Korea's program together with their continuous threats to "nuke the U.S." are reaching a point of intolerance. Either China acts NOW to shut Kim down or the U.S. will be forced to take action. Trump is among other things, unpredictable.

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On one side NK states they need nuclear weapons as a deterent and DT threatens them proving his point.

Should the rest of the world play KJU's blackmail game?

No.

China is a major key here and must tight the leash.

China won't do it for free.

Sorry for the population there but NK should be starved and forbidden to have any boats in international waters.

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OssanAmerica

Im curious of what action you think China can do to singlehandedly shut down North Korea?

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Im curious of what action you think China can do to singlehandedly shut down North Korea?

The price would be high, but let's say for arguments sake that Trump decides to officially recognize China's new territory in the South China Sea, you know the island base they are finishing building?

In exchange for getting rid of the nuts and nukes in NK?

Is that price worth it?

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Stuart haywardToday 07:06 am JSTOssanAmerica

Im curious of what action you think China can do to singlehandedly shut down North Korea?

Cut off their energy supply. China provides 90% of it.

"North Korea imports 90% of its energy from China and crude oil is considered a vital link for the army and economy of Pyongyang."

https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2017/06/15/energy-security-north-korea-defiance-survival/

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Burning BushToday 07:10 am JSTThe North Koreans will not unilaterally attack the US out of the blow.

They probably just want to be left alone and go about their daily lives.

No, if that's what they wanted all they have to do is continue their nuclear/missle program quietly without constantly threatening to "nuke" U.S. cities.

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The latest UN sanction is another sign of weakness and impotence of the free world against the Quixotic Kim Jong-un. Don't forget the so-called "Communist" strategy: permanently offensive. Threats and diplomacy are useless. The only effective response is the termination of his weapons.

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The DIA isn't the most reliable US intelligence agency. Rumsfeld built up the agency preceding the Iraq war to issue intelligence to fit the Bush administration's agenda.

There are no easy answers with NK. Nothing the rest of the world does will change their positions because the NK leadership is playing to an internal audience to maintain power. Sanctions and outright payments have never worked before. Their nuclear ambitions do look like a defensive posture if only because the use of whatever nuclear capability they have will result in their destruction. Of course, China can't be trusted as a neutral player either, and there is a high risk that China will join NK in any conflict.

Trump has not been able to out crazy NK or get China to help with NK. Instead, he bought China's false assurances.

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The press always forgets the part that the NK threats are about retaliation if the US attacks NK.

Even the president's own national security advisor said that NK realizes that disarming or curtailing WMD projects did nothing to stop the US from destroying the economy and killing so many in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.

The only protection from the US is to possess WMD, according to him.

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It's news like this that makes the absence of real leadership in this country all the more glaring. I don't know what measures President Trump is attempting behind the scenes, but his twitter tantrums don't inspire confidence of a steady hand at the wheel, and generals/military leaders in my opinion will see everything as a nail, being the hammers that they are.

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Anyone who has read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" will know that you only go to war when the battle is already won and victory is assured (see the US invasion of Iraq back in 2003 as a good illustration). The US forces could clearly blow North Korea off the map right now; so what is stopping them from doing so? The answer: North Korea has a proven nuclear capability. Iraq didn't. Once this nuclear capability has been neutralized somehow (sabotage, electronic jamming etc), the US will bomb North Korea and any "war" will be over within a week.

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U-2 spy planes fly over NK every day at 70,000 feet. The US basically knows where all NK's missiles are. As shocking as it will be for the people of NK, precision strikes may be the only way because we've been hearing about talks and negotiations for 20+ years while NK slowly but surely improves its weaponry. Admittedly it is scary that Trump is in charge of nuclear weapons, but Kim should never be allowed to have them.

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With war South Korea would suffer so much.

Japan would be hit.

Even today on Asahi, they showed a map Kim was looking at. It looked like he was pointing at Iwakuni.

I don't want bombs falling on Yamaguchi, but diplomacy has not worked well.

North Korea is mad since at ASEAN the screws are tightening and Thailand admitted that trade with North Korea has declined by 90% over the past year.

Business is still done with India, Singapore and Malaysia.

I wish trump could convince Macron to ban the sale of cognac to KIm.

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Someone needs to put parent controls on his twitter account and muzzle him like a rabid dog! His ego is going to get people killed!

Wait a minute....NK threatens to attack one of our territories and you think it's Trump that needs to chill??

Wow! You guys just never fail to amaze me. I would laugh myself silly if it weren't so bad. No Trump is doing the right thing, if the NK want to threaten us and wants to make sure of that promise, you can't let that go on, if they do in some manner launch an attack of any scale at the US, the Trump admin. should use every military option to pacify or even cut off the snakes head.

It's news like this that makes the absence of real leadership in this country all the more glaring. I don't know what measures President Trump is attempting behind the scenes, but his twitter tantrums don't inspire confidence of a steady hand at the wheel, and generals/military leaders in my opinion will see everything as a nail, being the hammers that they are.

Doesn't matter how much he tweets, the left and their obsessions that he tweets, so what?! Everyone should know by now, telling him not to tweet is a waste of time, he will never give it up, so why is anyone surprised. I don't pay one iota to his tweets, I could care less, he's going to tweet and as long as the media treats him unfairly, that won't change in the near future. The only thing that matters now is what the Generals plan, Trump doesn't decide on attack or how or the methods that's Mattis's job, the only difference in all this, this admin. will not be a pacifist, let you walk all over me admin., more like you "go ahead, do it and watch what happens next"

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There will be no war with North Korea. Trump has made it clear that the price for a North Korean missile launch against the US is regime change. Now let's see if China enforces the UN resolution or if they play the UN for fools again.

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OssanAmerican

Well that would certainly slow them down for a while but I'm sure they'd be using that remaining ten percent to continue their military projects and keep electricity running for their leader, while the people suffer even more.

But I prefer your suggestion compared to a military action for sure.

Yubaru makes a valid point that may motivate China to do so but there's probably nothing else that would cause China to let go of all that revinue

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From Jan. 6, 2016

South Korea's meteorological agency said separately that it had not detected any radiation after North Korea said it successfully conducted a hydrogen nuclear test.

Are we even sure he has any nukes? Could be just massive underground explosions.

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Doesn't matter how much he tweets, the left and their obsessions that he tweets, so what?!

Again with this "nefarious" left. There's conservatives who oppose this madman, as well.

I no longer see any difference between Kim's fiery rhetoric and Trump's.

As for the warmongers; perhaps a pre-emptive strike should be launched against Washington, no?

To contain the danger. And besides; it would be over in a day, no?

But it wasn't clear what Trump, who is prone to hyperbole and bombast in far less grave situations, meant by the threat. White House officials did not elaborate.

Nobody knows. He is volatile, unpredictable and demands loyalty like Kim. And that's terrifying. But you can be guaranteed, if conflict comes he'll be safe and sound and out of harm's way. Just like Kim.

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NK threatens to attack one of our territories and you think it's Trump that needs to chill?? Wow! You guys just never fail to amaze me. I would laugh myself silly if it weren't so bad.

Says the poster who wants US coastal cities nuked.

this admin. will not be a pacifist, let you walk all over me admin., more like you "go ahead, do it and watch what happens next"

Where will you be watching from? I'll wager it's not in front of the carnage that will engulf us should these maniacs get their way.

Both leaders demand loyalty, both lie to their people and both have a fanatical following. What happens next? Can you guess?

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The US forces could clearly blow North Korea off the map right now; so what is stopping them from doing so? 

Because we are in world where we do not blow sovereign countries just based on words spoken only, wait....maybe not anymore since DT.

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Empty rhetoric, as we all know too well -- there is absolutely N O T H I N G he can do. In this day and age, are there still people deceived by this hot air??

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NK will be gone. all women and children gone. Tokyo gone. most of SK gone. no problem for usa, apart from the 70 subs with missiles...

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forgot guam and hawaii.

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yet 16 hours ago Trump was being criticized that his North Korea policy was weak and no different from Obama's (which somehow was never called weak). Which one is it?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-obama-north-korea-241389

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and to you guys now trying to say Trump and Kim are pretty much the same? Never mind...I got nothing. If I have to explain to you how these two are nothing alike in actual reality, there is just no hope. Yeah, hes just like Hitler! I mean just like Kim, I mean (insert name here)!

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Trump had better do something soon all that Chinese technology has certainly sped up North Korea's missle development

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"fire and fury" sounds like the title of an anime or manga. Is that where Trump gets his ideas about what war is like?

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"fire and fury" sounds like the title of an anime or manga. Is that where Trump gets his ideas about what war is like?

Anime and Manga require a reasonable attention span and reading. So, no.

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Why not sign a peace treaty with North Korea, establish a trading relationship with them, and encourage change from within the country itself? Trying to isolate NK and hoping the regime will eventually collapse clearly isn't working so maybe it's time to try something different. Unfortunately, I have little faith that any politician would attempt to normalize relations with North Korea out of fear of being labelled "weak" or "an appeaser" or other such nonsense. The real losers in this sad state of affairs have been and will continue to be the North Korean people.

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Get them, Donny! I am with you on this one (but I prefer to watch from a safe distance). I'll be in Antarctica if you need me.

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I no longer see any difference between Kim's fiery rhetoric and Trump's. 

Big difference, the US never said, we will attack you or else.....

As for the warmongers; perhaps a pre-emptive strike should be launched against Washington, no? 

To contain the danger. And besides; it would be over in a day, no?

So you'd rather take a chance and let this guy attack Guam or the western US?

As someone who grew up in the streets only a fool would allow someone to get close to them and let them sneak in a sucker punch, been around long enough worked when I was younger in a few bars and the biggest mistake a person can make is allow someone to come right up within striking distance and allow them to get the first punch in.

I would never do that, you get in my face, I'm knocking you out, that simple, don't get in my space and we will be ok. The same analogy, no one wants another war, but Kim is beyond rational and I don't think sadly that we can afford the luxury of taking this kid and his threats lightly.

Nobody knows. He is volatile, unpredictable and demands loyalty like Kim.

What? Kim murdered his uncle, murdered over 20 of his fathers former top ranking generals, murdered his ex-girlfriend and recently his brother, Trump didn't have anyone murdered to lump him in with Kim is not only ridiculous, but hilarious.

And that's terrifying. But you can be guaranteed, if conflict comes he'll be safe and sound and out of harm's way. Just like Kim.

Dunno, but I have more empathy with Americans and the safety of them and EVERY president is safe and sound when they launch an attack unless you're George Washington. What's terrifying is seeing people worrying more about this fat kid than the safety of Americans.

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Trump's response (wording) is a bit over e top, but he is right in the general idea. Standing up to defend your country is normal and good.

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Trump's response (wording) is a bit over e top

Yes. It's okay to come out with idiotic, hyperbolic statements about how great he is but it's better to be more measured when talking about foreign policy.

Maybe many of his base likes this kind of macho trash, but he has to act more intelligently in the world outside his whooping boneheads at rallies.

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De-escalation isn't in Trump's vocabulary. Too many syllables.

Seriously, why is this dangerous idiot still in a position of power?

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So you'd rather take a chance and let this guy attack Guam or the western US?

Excuse me; you've been calling for the western US to be nuked. Your wishes will come true. Should all the bluster from Kim have any gravitas to it.

As someone who grew up in the streets only a fool would allow someone to get close to them and let them sneak in a sucker punch, been around long enough worked when I was younger in a few bars and the biggest mistake a person can make is allow someone to come right up within striking distance and allow them to get the first punch in.

Yeah, we all have stories to tell. From the safety of many, many leagues away. All swagger and bravado. One hopes.

I would never do that, you get in my face, I'm knocking you out, that simple, don't get in my space and we will be ok. The same analogy, no one wants another war, but Kim is beyond rational and I don't think sadly that we can afford the luxury of taking this kid and his threats lightly.

It's status quo for the country. Has been since its inception. The Kim's demand international recognition and this is how they go about it. I recommend The Two Koreas by the late Don Oberdorfer. An accessible account of the modern history of the DPKR and ROK and how this has all happened before and will happen again.

What? Kim murdered his uncle, murdered over 20 of his fathers former top ranking generals, murdered his ex-girlfriend and recently his brother, Trump didn't have anyone murdered to lump him in with Kim is not only ridiculous, but hilarious.

I don't need to repeat the allegations about certain connections to the mob, surely? I'm sure he'll surpass his Korean clone's tally when he kicks off WW3 aka; how to distract attention away from that Russia thing and other scandas.

Dunno, but I have more empathy with Americans and the safety of them and EVERY president is safe and sound when they launch an attack unless you're George Washington. What's terrifying is seeing people worrying more about this fat kid than the safety of Americans.

I'd like to see Kim Wrong Un deposed and jailed by his people. And an end to the regime. In Pyongyang and Washington.

What's terrifying is that you're cheering on a war that you'll be many miles away from. A war that will result in huge casualties in the region.

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With America recently ordering all US passport holders out of NK by September I have a horrible feeling something bad is coming.

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What's terrifying is seeing people worrying more about this fat kid than the safety of Americans.

Please clarify, which one of the fat kids are you referring to?

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It'll be amusing if NK can bait Trump into a Twitter war, seeing as they are clearly winning atm.. Trolled by NK, a new low for the history of America

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Yes. It's okay to come out with idiotic, hyperbolic statements about how great he is but it's better to be more measured when talking about foreign policy. 

Doesn't matter if we understand or not, the main thing is as long as the generals know what to do and how to counteract the actions of this little kid. At least we don't have to worry about this admin. taking a backseat and pacifist approach. I know the left would just allow this moonbat to continue and they would take the position, just leave him and live with it. No, thanks.

Maybe many of his base likes this kind of macho trash, but he has to act more intelligently in the world outside his whooping boneheads at rallies.

Yeah, whatever. LOL

Excuse me; you've been calling for the western US to be nuked. Your wishes will come true. Should all the bluster from Kim have any gravitas to it.

I was referring to California.

Yeah, we all have stories to tell. From the safety of many, many leagues away. All swagger and bravado. One hopes.

No, just the truth.

It's status quo for the country. Has been since its inception. The Kim's demand international recognition and this is how they go about it. I recommend The Two Koreas by the late Don Oberdorfer. An accessible account of the modern history of the DPKR and ROK and how this has all happened before and will happen again.

The difference with Lil' Kim is, he is not his father or grand father, not as rational and definitely not as smart. Kim is under pressure from within, he needs to prove himself and this guy won't stop and as I said before, I would never allow someone to get close to me and sucker punch me, I'm not stupid and Mattis and Trump are spot on with this.

I'm sure he'll surpass his Korean clone's tally when he kicks off WW3 aka; how to distract attention away from that Russia thing and other scandas.

Yeah, how? Please elaborate. This should be interesting.

I'd like to see Kim Wrong Un deposed and jailed by his people.

How?

And an end to the regime. In Pyongyang and Washington. What's terrifying is that you're cheering on a war that you'll be many miles away from. A war that will result in huge casualties in the region.

We had a regime change in November, but on a serious note, I'm not cheering for anything, I know that if a Dam were in office doing the exact same thing, the left would cheer the president and demand we support him, you guys don't like this president and therefore, it's a full on condemnation for any action he would take, so why should he care at all what anyone thinks, good on him for not being a pacifist and yes, there will be casualties either way, so we need to decide which country comes first attack Korea and deal with the realization that thousands of people will be killed or injured in Seoul, or do a preemptive and allow thousands in the US to be killed or allow him to carry on develop nukes and just take a chance?

I think you know exactly where I stand on this.

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Nuclear proliferation. Where does it go from here? Will N. Korea's nuclear program and its weapons be confined within its borders? That's one of the big questions.

Also, N. Korea has demonstrated an ability at conducting ICBM tests (minus the miniaturized nuclear device) willy-nilly now in the Sea of Japan, so how are they going to test a nuclear tipped ICBM re-entering the earth's atmosphere successfully without trying it out first? Before they use one, they have to test it first, right? Would the N. Koreans test a nuclear tipped ICBM in the Sea of Japan? They don't have anywhere else to test it so it's a possibility.

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America has much different interests now. It not only South Korea but the entire west coast of the homeland. This problem is also about Iran, as they are on the sidelines just watching, waiting and thinking if this conflict works to North Koreas benefit it will work for Iran too.

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The US should just give back to Japan the full means to defend themselves. Maybe China would get the clue then.

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I read this, nothing has been truer to me:

Donald Trump is a warning. Trump is the best case scenario. If you somehow depose him via your smarmy shenanigans, what comes along next is really going to upset you. You need to understand something.

*Trump is not our last chance. He's your last chance.*

I fully stand with our President while he works tirelessly to resolve this issue threatening the entire world.

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Nuclear proliferation. Where does it go from here? Will N. Korea's nuclear program and its weapons be confined within its borders? That's one of the big questions. 

Also, N. Korea has demonstrated an ability at conducting ICBM tests (minus the miniaturized nuclear device)

I don't see any signs of NK discontinuing nuclear proliferation anywhere in the near future, as you say this is has the potentiality to get out of hand pulling in all the surrounding neighboring countries into a widening conflict that can have devastating consequences if the necessary steps aren't taken to minimize the threat of an all out war breaking out.

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I fully stand with our President while he works tirelessly to resolve this issue threatening the entire world.

Trump working tirelessly? You mean between all his golf games, watching Fox and Friends and tweeting barrages of trash?

I wish you were my boss.

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Trump probably had a bad day on the links, or was being defensive about his vacation, so his emotions got manifested into threats on NK. He's an infant, and his juvenile behavior is the norm. He's not any less dangerous than Kim in his comments. Scary twosome.

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Trump working tirelessly? You mean between all his golf games, watching Fox and Friends and tweeting barrages of trash? 

Trying to get legislation passed working with incompetent and obstructionist Democrats and spineless and clueless Democrats

 

A lot of work.

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@Bass

When did you stop believing presidents spending a lot of time on the golf course was a bad thing?

You used to be very critical of it.

Do you think Trump's choice of language was suitable?

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Trying to get legislation passed working with incompetent

The 'incompetent' DNC minority have done a pretty good job at halting the Shia-GOP party ;)

and obstructionist Democrats and spineless and clueless Democrats

Now GOP wants to whine obstruction. Too cute ;)

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I hope Trump doesn't screw this up. I hope he has good advice from his generals and diplomats.

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I hope Trump doesn't screw this up. I hope he has good advice from his generals and diplomats.

I'm sure he does, but will he listen?

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But my math is better, so if you calculate the hours he spends trying to deal with an incompetent congress and two ideologically driven parties vs him playing golf or even sleeping, it's actually not that much.

My math is fair but I don't know how you can be so exact about the time he actually spends dealing with an 'incompetent congress', watching Fox News, sleeping ( we know he likes a 3am-ish trash tweet ), playing golf etc.

Where are you getting these numbers from, and where did you get the numbers for his predecessor which allowed you to attack him for playing too much golf?

Why do you think his choice of words was suitable? Isn't there a fair argument that what sounds cool to those who get all excited by macho rhetoric can be dangerously misconstrued by the likes of North Korea?

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O M G. Keep this idiot away from the big red button. In fact just keep him away. Lock him up and through away the key. A full frontal lobotomy would also help.

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My math is fair but I don't know how you can be so exact about the time he actually spends dealing with an 'incompetent congress', watching Fox News, sleeping ( we know he likes a 3am-ish trash tweet ), playing golf etc. 

Nothing wrong with that, but given his predecessor was overly weak, it's really refreshing to see that we finally have a president that won't tolerate BS.

Where are you getting these numbers from, and where did you get the numbers for his predecessor which allowed you to attack him for playing too much golf? 

Doesn't matter you would dismiss the report anyway, but let's just say, I sleep a lot better now.

Why do you think his choice of words was suitable? Isn't there a fair argument that what sounds cool to those who get all excited by macho rhetoric can be dangerously misconstrued by the likes of North Korea?

Everything upsets the North Koreans, the very existence upsets them, so nothing new.

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i think he went to his golf course in a tantram because he ordered an attack and the generals said no.

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What a surprise. The usual incompetence from the so-called president.

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Despite the rhetoric coming from Pyong Yang... do we really believe they would start a war? More to the point, would Trump attack NK to shut them up?

It's a bit like a snotty annoying kid in the playground who keeps saying he's going to punch the big bossy kid. The big bossy kid then decides he's heard enough and beats up the snotty kid, leaving him needing hospital treatment.

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Where are you getting these numbers from, and where did you get the numbers for his predecessor which allowed you to attack him for playing too much golf? 

Doesn't matter you would dismiss the report anyway, but let's just say, I sleep a lot better now.

Fake news.

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Despite the rhetoric coming from Pyong Yang... do we really believe they would start a war?

With this new Kim? Oh, without a doubt.

More to the point, would Trump attack NK to shut them up?

I doubt it, but I wish he would attack the Democrats. Lol

But seriously, not unless there would be reason to do a preemptive strike and even then, he's surrounded by some of the best generals, so they would properly assess the situation deeply before engaging the enemy.

@Jim

Not fake.

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I doubt it, but I wish he would attack the Democrats. Lol

Classy as always, bass. This is exactly what is wrong with Americana politics.

Not fake

Prove it. Where did you get your numbers from?

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Not fake.

Post the source. Trump has come under fire for spending too much time on the golf course, watching roaring stupidity on Fox and tweeting trash.

You are a non-partisan and an elite journalist who wouldn't trust partisan sources. Please post these sources to clear up the biased MSM attacks on the supposed slacker in chief.

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So Don, you want to swap the annihilation of your west coast for a few North Korean cities? We could throw Tokyo & most of South Korea in there too as a sweetener. Ooh, and Guam too, what the hell eh? I've never read "The Art of the Deal", but this sounds like a bad one to me. Playing Clint Eastwood games with a nuclear arsenal, such recklessness from a leader is unforgivable.

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I know that if a Dam were in office doing the exact same thing, the left would cheer the president and demand we support him,

Again with the conflating of Democrats and the left. They are not left. They are centerist.

you guys don't like this president and therefore, it's a full on condemnation for any action he would take, so why should he care at all what anyone thinks,

I am not a Democrat, so I don't fall into the "you guys" category. I don't like Trump because he is unstable, narcissistic, bullying, racist, a sexual predator and a serial liar who has leaked information from the Israelis, discussed private matters of state in public at Mar a Lago and backtracked on his promises to the LGBT community.

good on him for not being a pacifist and yes, there will be casualties either way, so we need to decide which country comes first attack Korea and deal with the realization that thousands of people will be killed or injured in Seoul, or do a preemptive and allow thousands in the US to be killed or allow him to carry on develop nukes and just take a chance?

Dialogue not fiery rhetoric. Either that or remove both non-pacifists from the equation and let them stew in gaol or exile for the rest of their sad existences.

*Instead of viewing its relationship with China through the lens of North Korea, the US should see its relationship with North Korea as a part of its relationship with China – a country far more important to the safety and prosperity of the US.*

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/07/whats-worse-than-war-with-north-korea-china

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/09/north-korea-v-the-us-how-likely-is-war

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Hopefully NK's Internet connection will be cut as part of the latest UN Sanctions - that way, they wont see President Trump's Tweets, an we will be safe from their Hacking exploits to obtain funds from us.

Who provides the NK Internet Service ? The following may help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea

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It's very strong, direct language. It's a worry.

Things are not getting better.

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Lmao, Trump sounds like he's quoting from a line in Game of Thrones. Well, guess what, NK threatened again. Both countries are just lead by man babies with all talk and no action. Nothing will happen, NK will eventually get these weapons that they're aiming for, and it will be used as a deterrence. They want to have these weapons precisely so that no county can just send "fire and fury" at them without consequences.

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Trump sounds like he's quoting from a line in Game of Thrones.

"Nuclear winter is coming"

"A Trump never pays his debts"

"You know nothing, Don Trump"

"Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor"

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That is about the stupidest and most dangerous statement I have ever heard an American president make,” John Mecklin, - editor-in-chief of Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (creators of the “Doomsday Clock,” a symbolic representation of humanity’s proximity to apocalyptic destruction.

Spot on sir, spot on.

The most sobbering part is Harry Truman's "rain of ruin...the like of which has never been seen on this earth" So yes Trump you colossal moron, we have seen it before.

Personally I think Trumpo watched Game of Thrones the other night, he thinks he Daenerys Targaryen, riding his Nuclear Missile like Daeny on her dragon, bringing his "Fire and fury", it would be funny, if it weren't so deadly serious.

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@Fizbit

Now there's a question no one in the media has thought to ask. Or maybe they did but didn't want to lose their job.

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Stuart haywardAug. 9 08:53 am JSTOssanAmerican

Well that would certainly slow them down for a while but I'm sure they'd be using that remaining ten percent to continue their military projects

Slow them down? That's 90% not 9%. Let them keep building their weapons with a 90% decrease in available energy nationwide.

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