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U.S., China wrap up testy face-to-face talks
By MATTHEW LEE ANCHORAGE, Alaska©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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gokai_wo_maneku
The US cannot compete with China. Period. That is the reason that the USA is trying to separate from China, and trying to make everyone separate from China. I hope Japan sticks with China. The USA is falling apart.
JeffLee
It took Trump to make the US - and the West - realize that China is an adversary and not our friend. The last few globalists in the White House paved extremely dangerous ground through their naive beliefs that economic liberalization in China would engender political and social liberalization. Now, policymakers have to repair the damage. Good luck.
Not when Beijing actively blocks Facebook and tightly restricts Google, Microsoft and the US's other major economic and industrial players. The solution is not to compete -- and simply isolate China. You don't "compete" with authoritarian communist dictatorships. You contain them.
noriahojanen
Funny to see Wang Yi, China's high-handed foreign minister, now looking like an errand boy for Yang this time.
vanityofvanities
China is arrogant disregarding their own place. They could become the world third big economy owing to trade with the west and copying western technologies and knowhows of the west.
The Avenger
I want to take this opportunity once again to thank American businesses for accelerating China's rise by Offshoring American jobs and factories to China.
And lest I forget, a special nod of appreciation to American investors and Farmers who enjoy the market opportunities China provides them.
Yeah...
gokai_wo_maneku
@P.Smith: Intellectual property theft by China is greatly exaggerated. Huawei alone has more than 5,000 US patents. China has 3 times the number of patent applications as the USA, and almost twice the patents granted as the USA and Japan combined.
Wolfpack
Now that Trump is out of office Russia is getting pushed off stage. But, but what about the dossier? The clandestine meeting in Prague, and the server in Trump Tower connection directly to the Moscow Bank?
bass4funk
That myth again? So what is this admission going to do besides sit back and allow China to make a mockery of the US?
SuperLib
Biden will need to build a coalition to go up against China. No more "go it alone" that squandered our resources in the past.
sunfunbun
Talk about a blanket statement that makes zero sense. Of course American competes with China on an economic level.
Can you tell us what you know of re education camps and monitoring of the Uighurs?
Some basic restrictions for Uighurs:
-Official religious practices must be held in government-approved mosques
-Uyghurs under 18 years old are not allowed to enter mosques or pray in school
-The study of religious texts is only permitted in designated state schools
-Government informers regularly attend religious gatherings in mosques
-Women are not allowed to wear headscarves and veils and men are not allowed to have beards
-The use of traditionally Islamic names (e.g, Abdul), is banned
To make sure the Uighurs are watched, the monitoring system with facial recognition is everywhere in their region, so the government can control any activity they deem suspicious, sending people to camps to re educate which in laymen's terms is to brainwash them.
This is just one case of basic human freedom and rights being stifled by the Chinese government. This is the true reason the USA and Biden are opposing China, as the world should be. It doesn't mean the USA 'hates' China, but the questioning of human rights is legit.
joey stalin
America doesn't need any help making a mockery of itself.
Paul
There is no point talking to China, just blacklist the entire country.
viking68
Agreed, the average income in China is about USD10k compared with USD30K in the US. Hard to compete with that as a cost base. That is even excluding the spill over costs of pollution that companies there don't need to pay, the stolen technology, and disposable workforce.
joey stalin
Why not take the initiative. Just refuse to buy Chinese-made goods, or those made with Chinese-sourced components. You can start with your smart phone.
JeffLee
A must-abused and little-understood statistic. Not all patents are created equal. A few are for revolutionary inventions. The vast majority of others are for small, incremental developments within existing technologies. The US is strong in the former, China in the latter.
viking68
Assembled in China. Not made in China.
bob
Nothing short of an astonishing slap in the face to the Biden administration. The CCP delegation openly bashed them to their faces, on American soil no less.
Blinking looked like a deer caught in headlights and the US team are clearly used to taking within the bubble of comfortable left-wing illusions.
The CCP behavior is a stark reminder to leftists that the world is a brutal place where strength and strength alone is respected.
China, NK and Russia and Iran have all in the last week openly mocked Biden.
If you havent seen the brutal Chinese behavior, watch it now to learn what "realpolitik" means.
China is emboldened more than ever and extending their evil reach. But hey, at least OMB isn't sending mean tweets.
sunfunbun
Americans don't worry about getting poisoned and killed if they happen to say so, themselves.
China and Russia? SHHHHHH!!!! Or you know, they'll convince you otherwise.
joey stalin
30% of young Black Americans in prison, daily police shootings, declining life expectancy, widespread homelessness, 7 ongoing wars... And the US lecturing the world about human rights?
joey stalin
Apparently, the US cannot manage to even assemble phones or computers. 80% of the components of medicines produced in Asia--who needs medicines, anyway?
joey stalin
Cost of living is also far lower in China. Disposable workforce? China has nothing to teach the US on this.
quercetum
And I don’t think it’s limited to intellectual property. How stronger nations deal with insurrection seem to be copied as well.
This is a global problem: the occupation and surveillance methods could spread. The global marketplace has traded in bad ideas as often as good ideas; we regularly share our horrors as freely as we do our hopes. The calculated evils of the Holocaust didn’t spring fully-formed in the minds of Hitler and Goebbels and Eichmann; the very phrase concentration camp comes from the British camps set up during the Boer Wars. The Nazis studied not only the historical lessons of America’s organized removal of Native Americans but the then-contemporary segregation and miscegenation laws of Jim Crow. What the Chinese implement in Xinjiang and beyond will be copied by governments and corporations all over the world—even in the ‘free and democratic’ west. This is not only because the West has been helping China watch and control the behavior of its citizens for years, but because much of what the Chinese have been doing they learned from the West in the first place.
This could be describing the capitol rioters and will be the norm. It’s the way China provides the supply chain: they do it on a massive scale. This must not spread to other governments of the world.
bob
30% of young Black Americans in prison
totally false
In fact, black incarceration rates have been falling the past 5 years and there is no bigger reason than President Trump's First Step Act. (Not a wise decision in my opinion)
What you fail to address is the rate of black children born out of wedlock and without a father at home. Its approaching 80%.
population 350 million
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/03/police-black-killings-homicide-rates-race-injustice-column/3235072001/
More unarmed whites were shot by police than blacks last year.
in cities run by what party? Care to elaborate?
And thank god they are involved in the ops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Niger — all under the banner of the same war authority granted in the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force to fight al-Qaeda-linked militants.
You might have a point in about 2 years time as the Democrats lean increasingly and radically left, but yes, the US can lecture the likes of China about human rights until the cows come home.
RichardPearce
Biden was playing to the domestic audience of the US and the rest of the shrinking Imperium. China was playing to the international audience of the NAM, and the parts of the Imperium chafing under the velvet fist of Washington.
America is convinced it chastened and cowed China. China is convinced that it told America to get over itself.
voiceofokinawa
My wishful thinking.
This honest face-to-face bickering between the two countries may bring them closer together and mutually cooperate for the peace and betterment of the world.
lincolnman
Trump tough on China? What a fairy tale....
He has been doing business in China for years, giving them millions to make all his Trump Collection clothing line products...cheating US workers out of jobs...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-event-touted-made-america-goods-lot-his-merchandise-couldn-n893656
And for three years he was China's best friend, praising XI for his "astuteness" and trying his best to wrangle a trade deal...“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”
Even after COVID broke, he was still praising Xi...“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736
China doesn't give 16 trademark patents to someone it doesn't like...
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/ivanka-trump-gets-initial-approval-from-china-for-16-trademarks.html
It was only after COVID began to kill Americans, and his reelection chances, did he flip and try to deflect his incompetence by blaming China...
If we wouldn't have had the pandemic, Trump supporters would be touting their admiration for China, just like they do for Russia...