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U.S. death toll from coronavirus passes 100,000

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Sad but the curve is definitely flattening. Time to reopen the economy.

-17 ( +7 / -24 )

The only question that the US faces now is whether the total's going to break the 200,000 mark or not. Because it's clear that the robber-barons in charge of the government and the economy are willing to trade American lives for stock market prices.

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There's no way to confirm the accuracy of those figures.

Not only is there no actual standard definition or diagnosis of dying from coronavirus but hospitals in the US are paid for corona deaths so they have an incentive to fudge their numbers.

How many of those 100,000 would have died anyways during this period had corona never been in the news.

I don't think the answer is zero.

-16 ( +6 / -22 )

The administration's leading scientists have since warned that as many as 240,000 Americans could die in the country's outbreak.

But Trump and his fellow 'elite', the masters-of-the-economy, could/couldn't care less. They've each got access to the country's best healthcare and the power and connections to be first in queue to receive it. Unlike dozens of millions of working and middle class Americans they don't have to worry about going bankrupt because they can't pay medical bills.

The virus started in China. The start of the pandemic's on them. But the majority of American deaths from the virus are on Trump for being too slow in reacting to the information he was given and for leading an administration that continues to bungle responses to the pandemic.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

There's no way to confirm the accuracy of those figures.

It's unfortunate there are no globally agreed standards for determining the number of Covid19 deaths. In part because it allows pandemic deniers and other conspiracy theorists to continue to push their state's/organization's misinformation.

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Thanks a lot, CCP.

-4 ( +13 / -17 )

Thanks a lot Trump.

2 ( +16 / -14 )

The American public can be assured our dear president, trump will get around to doing something once he has settled his fight with Twitter.

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@8t read the headline....then read this In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure..if you need help with comprehension thats your issue not mine..

1 ( +7 / -6 )

This from someone who made the below post yesterday

There is no agenda in that comment, simply an observation. Blaming 100000 deaths from a worldwide pandemic on the President is clearly a biased and agenda driven post.

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

Early on, President Donald Trump downplayed the severity of the coronavirus and called it no worse than the common flu

Interesting. I remember a MSM anchor saying the same exact thing. Then they said mask were ineffective. Then wear a mask was all the rage. Then there was a race to a vaccine. Now a vaccine is questionable.

I also remember the Trump time line:

Get all the US citizens off the Diamond Princess

Ban travelers from China

Defense Authorization act

Sending the Mercy Hospital ships to east and west coast

Giving out trillions of free money to business and citizens

why does this always get left out?

And where is Cumo now, howling about his ventilators? Are they being used?

How about some real fact checking instead of Trump is to blame for this pandemic

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

The virus started in China. The start of the pandemic's on them. But the majority of American deaths from the virus are on Trump for being too slow in reacting to the information he was given and for leading an administration that continues to bungle responses to the pandemic.

But you left out other world leaders, the MSM and WHOs initial response also. How convenient of you, but we should fact check Trump 24/7

Also, Abe is getting praises for opening his economy, but Trump is a villain for opening his?

The spread of the virus in the US has nothing to do with Trump; its the individualistic behavior of the citizens, uneasy about social distancing, obesity, diet and many more factors.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Blaming 100000 deaths from a worldwide pandemic on the President is clearly a biased and agenda driven post.

Making snarky comments about someone wearing a mask is not an agenda???

A lack of thinking abilities, I would say!!!

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why does this always get left out?

Coz it didn't work, and the things that do work he didn't do, coz he thought it was all a hoax that would go away when the sun shines.

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The president has denied the existence of the virus. Then he says its no big deal and it will go away as if nothing happened. Then he said things will get better when the weather is warmer (which stupid people still believe). Then he said that 200,000 might die, but that's no big deal.

But the numbers have gone down since the weather has changed, and the health gurus keep changing their story. Now they are saying a vaccine is not a sure thing

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

His actions are still causing the death toll to rise. Not wearing a mask in public and setting a proper example, telling people to take untested and unapproved drugs. 

So now Trump is a "dear leader"? if he wears a mask, I must wear one? Interesting that Biden had one on outdoors, where there were no people, I guess sending the useless message that he is doing his part.

Why I have to listen to Trump? I have a mind of my own, its obvious that he speaks "off the cuff" or tongue in cheek manner, why would that infect me with the corona? Im still trying to make the jump, that Trump is responsible for 100 000 deaths. He gave you free money, now he is responsible for your health? One minute you hate the guy, but the next, he is responsible for everything that happens to you?

If Obama wore a mask, would that have prevented 100 000 deaths?

Bizarre!

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Sad but the curve is definitely flattening. Time to reopen the economy

Exactly, the infection rate is decreasing day by day, be care, be vigilant and open up the floodgates to allow people to go back to work, long overdue.

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Right Wingers are truly not bright!!!

From the people that supported Democrats 3 failed sneaky attempts at desperately trying to get rid of this President...not bright at all.

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

Does this have anything to do with high cost of going to doctors in U.S.?

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Its the constant jump from this to that with these people. Lets see, whatever happened to the Muller report..the impeachment findings....the help that Cumo needed...the ventilators, the beds, the vaccine, the this the that...then once all that is given and more...never enough...time to blame some more.

If you hate it that bad, move to Sri Lanka, Nepal or something...see how their gov is treating them.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

U.S. death toll with coronavirus passes 100,000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEQGs12dQ70

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But the numbers have gone down since the weather has changed, and the health gurus keep changing their story. Now they are saying a vaccine is not a sure thing

The numbers have gone done because of a strict lockdown! Weather has nothing to do with it! And no one can guarantee a vaccine. To do so, would be careless and stupid, which by the way, is another one of many things that this president has done that has wrongfully mislead the public into becoming overly optimistic and reopening too early.

open up the floodgates to allow people to go back to work, long overdue.

Oh the irony...you don't usually open floodgates too quickly, because that would cause a flood!

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But the numbers have gone down since the weather has changed, and the health gurus keep changing their story. Now they are saying a vaccine is not a sure thing

The infection rate is going down pretty slowly and will likely pick up again as the economy seeks to reopen.

Medical experts do change their "story" - it's what scientists do - they give a view based on the evidence and change it when the evidence changes.

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Medical experts do change their "story" - it's what scientists do - they give a view based on the evidence and change it when the evidence changes.

Naah, the "medical experts" that we see on the news are just there to scare people. Medical experts that do not follow the same narrative are silenced by those who have much to gain from this pandemic.

BTW, why does nobody talk about all the deaths that will result from a wrecked economy?

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G7 is planned to be held June 10-12 in D.C. Abe has to be in isolation for two weeks after he returns to Japan. Do it video conference.

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And Speaking of failed Democrat so called leadership....

100,000 deaths, beloved president, trump picking up fight with twitter, and you want to talk about leadership?

Not very smart, even by your standards!!!

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It makes me wonder if I still reside in the USA?

100,000 people dead from a pandemic that was mishandled from day one.

They can blame China, the World Heath Organization and even Joe Biden, but nothing will change the truth that the administration has lied and mismanaged it from the beginning.

The only thing that is keeping it from being worse is that a large segment of the population listen to the scientists and exercise proactive measures that keep it under control.

Stay well and keep safe and mail in you ballots to get rid of the **** on November third.

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The US response to this disaster will be used for centuries as a textbook example of what NOT to do in pandemics.

The US govt should take a lot of blame, they've been far too slow to act, and denied that the deadly virus was a problem at all. But equally a lot of US citizens have been really poor at dealing with the pandemic, compared to the discipline and orderliness of other nations.

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People don’t die ‘from’ the virus-they die with it!

In Italy, over 90% of patients with the virus died of underlying conditions-we have been duped!

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

100,000 deaths,

Send China a check, they were the ones that unleashed the virus. Germany is doing it.

beloved president, trump picking up fight with twitter

He should

, and you want to talk about leadership?

We don’t need to talk about twitter on this feed. There’s another article on that.

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They can blame China, the World Heath Organization and even Joe Biden

Not Biden, he won’t win, so he’s irrelevant.

, but nothing will change the truth that the administration has lied and mismanaged it from the beginning.

So did a lot of the medical experts, even Cuomo said they got the estimated numbers of cases of people that were supposed to die or need ventilators and over hyped this virus, they lied as well, they overestimated this thing completely.

The only thing that is keeping it from being worse is that a large segment of the population listen to the scientists and exercise proactive measures that keep it under control.

At this point I don’t think anyone is listening to them and you can see that by how the beaches are packed and people are living their lives once again, the American people can practice safety rules and be in charge of their own lives and take responsibility into their own hands.

Stay well and keep safe and mail in you ballots to get rid of the **** on November third

Biden

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

There's no way to confirm the accuracy of those figures.

Not only is there no actual standard definition or diagnosis of dying from coronavirus but hospitals in the US are paid for corona deaths so they have an incentive to fudge their numbers.

You were absolutely fine with the numbers back when you thought they proved the infection/mortality rate was "low".

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The President of The United States has a responsibility to the citizens. Donald Trump is not Presidential. He leads by poor examples. The people of America need to expect that Trump do his job well. Due to his lack of judgement, he puts everyone at risk of COVID 19 due to his manners, lack of intelligence, and overall greed for himself and his buds. We are not warriors. Give me a break!

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Not only is there no actual standard definition or diagnosis of dying from coronavirus but hospitals in the US are paid for corona deaths so they have an incentive to fudge their numbers

Actually, the numbers may be higher than 100,000. You don't know, but to want to cover the US problem by trying to reduce numbers is a useless endeavor. Whatever the number, it's extremely high, and excuses pile up for Trump.

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At this point I don’t think anyone is listening to them and you can see that by how the beaches are packed and people are living their lives once again, the American people can practice safety rules and be in charge of their own lives and take responsibility into their own hands.

This doesn't make any sense.

If the American people take charge of their lives by gathering at the beach, at Ozark pool parties, and generally overcrowd, they will spike the virus cases and more death. That's irresponsibility, not responsibility, as they do things that aren't practicing safety rules, and in fact, doing the opposite.

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@Bass4Funk

Send China a check, they were the ones that unleashed the virus.

Best Post I saw here for ages!

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

the USA is 9th in the world in per capita coronavirus deaths.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

Send China a check, they were the ones that unleashed the virus.

Best Post I saw here for ages!

ROFL, right wing wants to reward China!!

Freudian slip??

4 ( +6 / -2 )

so liberals got their "grim milestone" of 100,000 that they needed for the narrative.

100,000 is the number of deaths as counted. No narrative, just the truth.

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"Early on, President Donald Trump downplayed the severity of the coronavirus and called it no worse than the common flu."

And this is how Trump will be remembered in the history books when he dealt with his first major crisis as president.

How many lives would have been saved had this president not wasted the first 2 months of this deadly pandemic denying its existence? It'll be a real shocker if Trump gets re-elected this November.

Trump . . . an utter failure as a president.

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The U.S. surpassed a jarring milestone Wednesday in the coronavirus pandemic: 100,000 deaths.

Donald J. Trump's Legacy...

He has to be kicking himself for running for President in 2016...he never wanted to job in the first place, it was all just a PR stunt for his "brand"...

He could have been remembered as a failed businessman, who cheated on three wives, who said he'd like to date his daughter, and was best pals with Jeffry Epstein....

But now he'll be remembered for killing over 100K Americans in just four months...

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Nonsense, so many people die more from the flu and cancer and I’m just surprised the media didn’t tell the Trump haters he’s equally responsible for that. Pathetic

Not nonsense at all.

What is nonsense is the deniability and lack of taking responsibility by the office of the president in times of trouble. Too slow with some wrong actions end up with over 100,000 deaths likely reduced in numbers had Trump acted quickly and smartly.

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First, a moment of silence for the people who died and for those who lost loved ones and for those who lost their livelihoods and had their lives forever altered by this virus. Now let us all take another moment and be thankful that the number of these people mentioned above was not larger because it was projected to be ten times worse. This is not to lay blame at the feet of any one group or political party--no one knew how bad it was until it was too late. Now let's get back to go work and living but also be sensible and keep our distance and wear our masks when shopping. Let's bring our economy back while we shelter our elderly and weak. Maybe most importantly, let's take a moment to realize who lucky we truly are and that we may not be out of the woods yet.

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You would hope Democrats would have a heart, but alas....

it's the Republicans that do? LOL. Completely the opposite, dude.

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Are the 100,000 families relived to know that?

the USA is 9th in the world in per capita coronavirus deaths.

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But the numbers have gone down since the weather has changed, and the health gurus keep changing their story. Now they are saying a vaccine is not a sure thing

The numbers have gone done because of a strict lockdown! 

Lockdown strategy is coming under criticism. Its effect has proven limited. Numbers soar and take an identical locus with or without it. In NY and other lockdwon cities majority have infected and died at home. Lockdown takes both lives and livelihood. There have arisen the number of abuse or DV under lockdown.

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Trump knows that he enjoys a substantial degree of immunity from criticism for the high death toll because his supporters want to believe any excuses he makes up, not least because to blame their president would be to accuse themselves of gross negligence for electing a moron and supporting the most disgraceful peace-time president in the history of the republic who is indeed responsible for this enormity that nobody has ever seen before or even imagine.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

The ethnic minorities have been disproportionately infected by Covid-19. The indigenous American natives have less healthcare facilities than white communities. They are left out of the American dream.

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Trump did not trust people who he chose to deal with the problem. He fires or undermines his subordinates at whim. His presidency is a continuation of this dictatorial, temperamental business management style. It's unfixable.

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If people should blame Trump for all the Corona deaths in USA, I don't know.

I am not an American and I am not living in America.

In my opinion, the best president America ever had was Obama. If I think about Bush, or what was the Cowboy-actors name...Reagan...ohhhh.

But would Obama handle the pandemic in USA better than Trump, maybe yes, maybe no....

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

If any good should come of this I hope it causes us to have a medical system for all not based on private insurance.

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no, nor are they happy that the death of their family member is being politicized in some type of sick daily running total that exists only for political purposes. There is a reason why the media refuses to show the numbers per capita.

Are the 100,000 families relived to know that?

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

He has to be kicking himself for running for President in 2016...he never wanted to job in the first place, it was all just a PR stunt for his "brand"...

He told you this? When? A few weeks ago?

He could have been remembered as a failed businessman

Who succeeded and came back from bankruptcy, making millions on a few book deals and a 14 year number one TV show and then the Presidency, seems like a success story all around.

, who cheated on three wives, and was best pals with Jeffry Epstein..

A lot of people have and he wasn’t as close as the other President.

But now he'll be remembered for killing over 100K Americans in just four months...

By the haters yes, by the supporters, he won’t.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Because the far-right posters would get humiliated. Again

More like the liberals would. Lol

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

But would Obama handle the pandemic in USA better than Trump, maybe yes, maybe no....

Most definitely a yes.

First of all, there was a pandemic 'play book' left for Trump by Obama. Trump denies it could have helped, but how does he know? He didn't read it, blames everyone but himself, and takes no responsibility for anything he screws up. Mitch McConnell denied it for a long time, ignorantly, but he has acknowledged, yes, it does exist. It is a 69 page document entitled, 'Playbook for Early Response to High-consequence emerging infectious disease threats and biological incidents'

Republicans will say it wasn't sufficient in its information, but that's just twisting the idea Trump couldn't find it, and could have used the advice from it. If it was insufficient, if Trump was damn smart, he could have taken the bits that were informative and used it to his fight agains the virus. He did not and/or can not.

Had Obama been in office, he would have been very conscientious of both the facts of possible viral outbreak and listened to the scientists, instead of making up his own narrative, like Trump did.

In essence, Trump does not care for facts and built his own narrative. If he was a person who reads and listens, he would have opened up the playbook early on, and made it more of a priority, as soon as any rumor of the virus occurred, which the government likely knew of back in December. He didn't. He waited. And waited. And lied. And made up things. Injecting disinfectant? How silly can you get? Yes, he did suggest it.

Obama would have immediately acted in January, understanding what a pandemic is and how the threat of this virus was one. It took a good 2 months, until Trump acknowledged it was a pandemic, even though he claimed, 'he knew it all along'. If he did, why didn't he do something about it? The basic timeline of Trump declaring, finally, on March 8, it was a pandemic is telling in how late he was and without doubt, Obama would have acted much more quickly with more precision to prevent many of the deaths that occurred under Trump's delayed response.

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Case in point.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

As predicted. China could have informed the US of the situation in December and the result would have been the same. The blood is on Trump's hands, and that of his enablers. And it will get worse.

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Most definitely a yes.

I doubt it, given other events he wouldn’t address.

, blames everyone but himself, and takes no responsibility for anything he screws up.

So did the last President.

Mitch McConnell denied it for a long time, ignorantly, but he has acknowledged, yes, it does exist. It is a 69 page document entitled, 'Playbook for Early Response to High-consequence emerging infectious disease threats and biological incidents'

You feel the same about every other Democrat governors or politicians that laughed this off at the beginning?

he could have taken the bits that were informative and used it to his fight agains the virus. He did not and/or can not.

Not really, Trump took a big chance closing the country Down, if he hadn’t, you honestly think Liberals would have said, great move? You and I know he would have been flame broiled for not and why should take something seriously when Democrats in the past didn’t?

Had Obama been in office, he would have been very conscientious of both the facts of possible viral outbreak and listened to the scientists, instead of making up his own narrative, like Trump did.

Oh, please.

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/03/01/in-april-2009-h1n1-became-a-pandemic-six-months-later-after-1000-u.s.-deaths-obama-declared-it-a-public-health-emergency/

In essence, Trump does not care for facts and built his own narrative.

The same goes for the Trump hating msm, be fair now.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Blacklabel

So you speak for the 100,000 families? The Covid-19 trackers give per capita figures. You want to downplay the seriousness of the virus?

no, nor are they happy that the death of their family member is being politicized in some type of sick daily running total that exists only for political purposes. There is a reason why the media refuses to show the numbers per capita.

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America and Britain have suffered badly from the Covid-19 because they didn't put preventive measures in place after the SARS outbreak, like they did in South Korea which reacted very quickly to the outbreak and reduced the number of infections and deaths.

Trump abolished several important health measures.

"In 2018, the World Health Organization released a list of eight diseases most likely to spark a public health emergency. Some we know — like the hemorrhagic fevers Ebola, Lassa, and Marburg, which can cause their victims to bleed out from their gums and

eyes. "

"On the WHO list was a threat ominously described as “disease X.” The X stands for an unknown: a pathogen lurking out there, currently being harbored in animals, with the potential to make the dangerous leap into humans and spread suffering and death around the globe."

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

4 ( +4 / -0 )

the USA is 9th in the world in per capita coronavirus deaths.

does not even rank in the top 15 for number of infections per capita, anyway you look at it US response is a failure, and its far from over. this is meant to be richest country in the world

https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00673/coronavirus-cases-by-country.html

1 ( +2 / -1 )

the USA is 9th in the world in per capita coronavirus deaths.

Considering that three years ago the US had a pandemic response team, guidelines on how to handle a pandemic, as well as legally mandated (by Obama) training of the incoming administration on how to deal with a pandemic, being 9th in the world is downright pathetic.

If it had happened on Obama's watch, we all know America's response would have been in the top three.

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the USA is 9th in the world in per capita coronavirus deaths.

So its acceptable for more Americans to die, because we have a bigger population.

The right wing argument since the beginning has been to let people die, they obviously took into account the fact that minorities are disproportionally affected.

Trying to downplay deaths just because it suits your political agenda is callous at the best!!

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related to what one would expect from our total population we are #9 in the world. its just a fact, it can mean whatever you want it to mean.

So its acceptable for more Americans to die, because we have a bigger population.

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related to what one would expect from our total population we are #9 in the world. its just a fact, it can mean whatever you want it to mean.

I guess people who live in China, India etc are glad their governments don't want more of them to die, because their per capita death rates are low.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Trump said he would make America number 1 again. Promises made, promises kept.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Trump said he would make America number 1 again. Promises made, promises kept.

For once he wasn't spouting fake news.

Has he made America great again?

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"From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, we estimate that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.

Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976-2001.

In our study, adults 65 years of age or older were found to have rates of hospitalization and death that were up to 75% and 81%, respectively, lower than seasonal influenza. These results confirm the necessity of a concerted public health response to pH1N1. "

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

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Has he made America great again?

He built 3 kms of border wall in 4 years.

That calls for popping a few bottles of adderall!!

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Japan has 20 times the number of deaths as El Salvador.

Does this tell you anything about the ineffectiveness of Japan's response?

Or seeing as Japan has 130 million people and El Salvador has only 6.4 million, isnt it about what you would expect based on population?

Was it acceptable that TWENTY times as many people in Japan died, just due to having a larger population? Or should Japan death count have matched El Salavador?

Well, folks, you're trying to have a logical debate with someone who doesn't even understand what "per capita" means.

Oh dear.

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Congratulations to Donald Trump for the fantastic job he is doing of praising himself and his administration for ignoring advice, and allowing over 100,000 American deaths. He continues to accuse everyone else for this pandemic and the US death toll in a brilliant plan to pander support from his loyal mindless followers.

He believes he can do even more to damage America so he seeks a second term to reek destruction on lives and futures of a majority of US citizens and line his own pockets while doing so. A brilliant leader in the company of Stalin, Hitler and Mao.

In other words he really stinks and is worse than useless in a crisis let alone dealing with day to day issues. What a disgrace Trump is. History will not be kind to him and nor should it be.

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sure, deflect again. the USA is #9 per capita. Your team says that meaningless, it only matters the total.

Simply not true. Impact is measured by per capita. to account for larger populations, you know?

Well, folks, you're trying to have a logical debate with someone who doesn't even understand what "per capita" means.

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oh now, we want to count by per capita? then fine, the USA is #9 in per capita corona cases as I said.

America did not have the highest per capita cases.

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I just want to say congratulations to Donald J. Trump for taking care of this Twitter problem. Because this is the most relevant thing going on in America right now, isn't it? The president being fact-checked? Definitely much more important than the 100,000 people dead in America.

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oh now, we want to count by per capita? then fine, the USA is #9 in per capita corona cases as I said.

To which I replied:

Considering that three years ago the US had a pandemic response team, guidelines on how to handle a pandemic, as well as legally mandated (by Obama) training of the incoming administration on how to deal with a pandemic, being 9th in the world is downright pathetic.

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which I proved as untrue based on his response to his own pandemic being last place.

Now go and talk about the other 8 countries with their higher per capita rates and how pathetic they are if they are worse than the USA. This topic is played out.

If it had happened on Obama's watch, we all know America's response would have been in the top three.

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Trump made many claims, probably more than anyone, the Covid-19 was just like the Flu. Would be over by Easter. He also claimed to be a virus expert because of his DNA. Claims about disinfectant. Claims about using a Malaria drug.

In the end the costs of the pandemic have been massive, probably more massive than any other president.

20% unemployment. 60 million without healthcare. Millions hitting the food banks to ward off starvation. Small business going under by the millions.

I wonder how does all of that work out per capita.

$5 trillion added to the National Debt.

Trump's ship might not be sinking but the pandemic put a hole in his broadside and is taking on water. Can he reverse the economic crisis before November. That will be a tall order from a captain no longer steering his ship.

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More Americans have died from Covid-19 than the combined figure for wars in South Korea, Vietnam and Iraq.

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I doubt it, given other events he wouldn’t address.

He did so much more than Trump. Saved the economy, Obama did, for Republican's financial crisis.

So did the last President.

Naw, not even close to how Trump lays blame around. He's a juvenile entitled guy, who can't even look at himself without his ego getting in the way. I doubt Trump has ever taken blame for anything in his life. He's a coward.

You feel the same about every other Democrat governors or politicians that laughed this off at the beginning?

Sure, if they actually were ignorant as McConnell and Trump. Difference is lies are completely an agenda for Trump and conservatives as a rule.

Not really, Trump took a big chance closing the country Down, if he hadn’t, you honestly think Liberals would have said, great move? You and I know he would have been flame broiled for not and why should take something seriously when Democrats in the past didn’t?

Democrats listen to science and know a pandemic is dangerous because critical thinking is a part of liberalism. Unlike narrative and not caring about facts, like conservatives.

https://www.redstate.com

I mean, this is another of conservative lies and twisting truths to feed their narrative. lol.

The same goes for the Trump hating msm, be fair now.

Disagree, completely. The media does prioritize trying to get the facts right. Because Fox doesn't, it's no reason to lump all the media into narrative driven news like them. Trump does not even try to get the facts, way too often, if at all on so many things he's responsible to find information on, but doesn't. He prioritizes lies and narrative in his demagoguery of coming up on 20,000 lies.

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The Covid-19 deaths should be compared to the number of cases not the per capita of the population.

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The Covid-19 deaths should be compared to the number of cases not the per capita of the population.

I disagree. Per-capita allows for a comparison between populations of varying sizes.

If 8 people in a country of 10 die, that's 80%.

If 10 people die in a city of a million, that's .0001%.

Looking at the absolute numbers, 10 looks worse than 8.

Of course 100,000 people are dead, and a significant number of them through Trump's incompetent leadership. But it's where America sits on the per-capita board that matters.

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He did so much more than Trump. Saved the economy, Obama did, for Republican's financial crisis.

And Trump got us out of the sluggish swamp with sweeping deregulations.

Naw, not even close to how Trump lays blame around.

Obama had the media to cover his and that’s a strong shield....smoke, but nothing here to see.

Sure, if they actually were ignorant as McConnell and Trump.

Harry Reid was a piece of work, can’t blame Mitch for following in his footsteps, there goes your lies and resistance.

Democrats listen to science

Yeah and that’s all they listen to, liberal scientists with a one goal in mind and one political outlook and never any opposing point of view.

I mean, this is another of conservative lies and twisting truths to feed their narrative. lol.

The same as liberals.

Disagree, completely. The media does prioritize trying to get the facts right.

They don’t try because if they did, they wouldn’t pound the Russia narrative, impeachment hoax, allow conservatives to talk, allow opposing point of views, give the President dues where he should get him, but it’s become one big liberal echo chamber, this is why the guy tweets so much, can’t blame him, if everyone were out to get me, I would use a platform that allows me to speak....maybe not other conservatives, but at least I can.

Because Fox doesn't, it's no reason to lump all the media into narrative driven news like them.

At least Fox has different opposing points of view, that’s why they’re the most watched and not everyone agrees lockstep with the President, they’re fair and give him credit when it’s due, the other networks will never under any circumstance, no wonder people are tuning them off and their ratings suck.

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The post is about Covid-19/America/100,000 deaths/Trump's watch.

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To date, the economic cost of the pandemic is about $7 trillion and its far from over.

Here’s How Much Trump’s Mishandling of COVID-19 Will Cost the Economy

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/13/heres-how-much-trumps-mishandling-of-covid-will-cost-the-economy/

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At least Fox has different opposing points of view,

Lol, of course. Fox is a joke, it's state media. Here is an example of that, when they asked their viewers to rate Trump's leadership of the crisis. The voting options: 'Very Good, 'Great', or 'Superb'

https://www.mediamatters.org/lou-dobbs/lou-dobbs-poll-asks-if-trumps-response-coronavirus-has-been-superb-great-or-very-good

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