U.S. faces new outbreaks as coronavirus infections worldwide top 575,000

One of the many positives of a free, for-profit press is being able to choose from dozens of sources offering an array of perspectives on the virus. Here's an interview with Bill Gates providing his perspective.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/03/27/entire-march-26-coronavirus-town-hall-part-4-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/entire-cnn-facebook-march-26-coronavirus-town-hall/

Not sure that Bill Gates, an elitist billionaire 1%er who made his riches by ensuring Windows had a monopoly on software is the best choice of info for this medical situation.

I think it's best to stick to the data and medical experts.

So, you think there is a link between being a great businessperson and not knowingness what you’re talking about? You must really love Donny.

With 535,000 confirmed infections, the world is looking at less than 0.01% of the population being infected.

Over 99.99% of the human population does not have a confirmed infection.

Back to downplaying the seriousness, I see.

 is the best choice of info for this medical situation

The Gates Foundation has been world leaders in doing research and implementing programs re 'medical situations' for decades. I'll trust Gate's knowledge over Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bannon etal. I've heard people question Gate's business tactics, but never his intelligence. Isn't it nice to have a variety of perspectives to inform our perspectives.

Not sure that Bill Gates, an elitist billionaire 1%er who made his riches by ensuring Windows had a monopoly on software is the best choice of info for this medical situation.

Actually, Gates knows a lot about pandemics. It's been a big part of his philanthropic efforts for many years. Check out his 2015 TED talk where he warns of exactly what we are going through now.

In the midst of taking a trade and economic beatdown by the US, social unrest in Hong Kong and recent protest in Wuhan over environmental issues, China unleashes an engineered bioweapon that crashes the world economy, silences their own people and gets them back to pretty much even footing with the rest of the world. Trifecta from their point of view.

Over 99.99% of the human population does not have a confirmed infection.

Yet.

Now is the opportunity to keep the numbers below 500,000.

But increase that number by 20% for every day's delay.

Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted

Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.,

H. Clifford Lane, M.D.,

and Robert R. Redfield, M.D.

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%... rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

There is a problem here. They are using the Case Fatality Rate of SARS and MERS, but then they don't compare it to the Case Fatality Rate of Covid19. The CFR is the number of people who die in related to diagnosed cases.

So the comparisons are apples and oranges. Any comparison needs to against the equivalent metric. If they want to compare the number of deaths to an assumed number of cases for Covid, then that is the comparison that needs to be made with SARS and MERS, not against their CFR.

CFR is only part of the picture. You also need to factor in the transmissibility. Given there is no existing immunity to this virus (or vaccine) and the rate of spread observed around the world, a large percentage of the population will be infected. Experts are saying 40-70% of the population will be infected. So, even with a CFR similar to the seasonal flu, the total deaths will be higher. With a CFR of 0.1%, the fatalities could be between 50,000 to 90,000 in Japan. And, as has been pointed out many times before, it's not only fatalities that are a concern. The serious complication rate is very high and the potential to push health systems well beyond their capacity is proven in several countries already. Relying on reputable sources like Fauci and NEJM is the right thing to do. But, you need to look at what is being said on balance as a whole, not just cherry pick parts to suit your narrative. Just look at Fauci as an example. He's co-author of the NEJM editorial, but he's also the one telling how serious we need to take this and calling for the lockdowns.

Trump's outright lies and falsehoods - in his own words;

“Anybody that needs a test gets a test.”

“Within a couple of days [the number of positive cases is] going to be down to close to zero.” 

“This is their new hoax.”

“Nobody could have ever seen something like this coming.”

"We’re very close to a vaccine."  

“The cure can’t be worse than the problem.”

“I don’t take any responsibility at all.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-lies-covid19_n_5e7b7d1ac5b6b7d80959966f

Just absolutely disgraceful...

Remember these lies, and the people that have died as a result, when you vote in Nov...

I listened to a plea from a doctor in Madrid today for ventilators, because they are having to take anyone over 65 years old off of them, to give them to younger people. And the old people have to die without their families, because they are quarantined.

This is no joke, it's important we do what we can to keep as much burden as possible off our medical systems, so that the resources we do have can cover as many people as possible.

America is almost under martial law. Curfew will be 24 hrs. Other countries are already under the law.

Sadly, when emotions run high, people refuse to look at the data and science.

Including you. You’ve been doing nothing but spread disinformation about this since day one. Everything you have said about it has been proven wrong by experience, its pathetic how glib you remain about being so wrong.

Every infectious disease expert in the world: “This is extremely dangerous and will kill huge numbers without drastic action”

Your message in almost every post: “Its just like the common cold, nothing to worry about, hardly anybody has it anyway.”

It isn't looking good. In addition to the idiot-in-chief disbanding the global pandemic unit and firing the official to watch pandemics in China, he and the WH also refused extra funding in February when the idiot was still calling it a "Democratic hoax".

Senator says White House turned down emergency coronavirus funding in early February

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senator-says-white-house-turned-down-emergency-coronavirus-funding-in-early-february-003319950.html

The officials, including Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, said they “didn’t need emergency funding, that they would be able to handle it within existing appropriations,” Murphy recalled in an interview with Yahoo News’ “Skullduggery” podcast. 

“What an awful, horrible catastrophic mistake that was,” Murphy said.

Oh, my......!

strangerland:

There is a problem here. They are using the Case Fatality Rate of SARS and MERS,

Don´t you think you should argue that with the authors of the article? Let me, in case of disagreement about a medical study between Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D. and Strangerland, who I give more credibility? Decisions, decisions...

Don´t you think you should argue that with the authors of the article?

Well no, because I can't be bothered, and you posted that here, where I can.

Let me, in case of disagreement about a medical study between Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D. and Strangerland, who I give more credibility? Decisions, decisions...

It's not an issue of credibility. I pointed out how that bit of text posted was making a comparison of different things. That's fact, not an opinion, on which my credibility would have any bearing. I didn't even draw a conclusion, the validity of which could be subject to my credibility.

Democrats talking and Donny having the final say are completely irrelevant to Donny’s Fans expecting the rational adults to think Donny’s words don’t mean what words mean. Smh.

@WilliB

The key point is, don't cherry pick the data. Here's what else Fauci is saying...

At this point, what we do know, he said, is that the new coronavirus is “10 times more serious than the typical influenza.”

“This is serious business,” he said. “We are not overreacting.”

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200124/coronavirus-2020-outbreak-latest-updates?ecd=wnl_spr_032720&ctr=wnl-spr-032720_nsl-LeadModule_cta&mb=t68V0O9BA5imHI%2fwnEcOpChonS%2fH3cwyOWuPXlytnj8%3d