U.S. forces keep up Kabul airlift under threat of more attacks

Good, the focus should be on getting as many people out as possible in the next few days.

McCarthy wanted the troops to withdraw yet maintain control over an airbase.

That’s the kind of idiotic thinking from the GOP that has brought us here.

Sometimes i do wonder what the point of these suicide attacks. First off you die in that attack yourself and can't even get a proper burial with your body in pieces. Secondly it only project a worse imagine of yourself and your religion to others. Thirdly no matter how many suicide bombers there are, there is no way you can wipe out every enemy or those who resist you. In fact you only make victims stronger when they bond together to resist you.

Whoever though this was a good strategy is clearly a idiot.

Thursday's bombing — blamed on Afghanistan’s offshoot of the Islamic State group, an enemy of both the Taliban and the West — marked one of the most lethal terror attacks the country has seen. The U.S. said it was the deadliest day for American forces in Afghanistan since 2011.

Even though ISIS and al queda are different in name they have the same objectives. This is a letter from binLaden about the then vice president joe biden. Even he knew biden very well.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/08/27/our-enemies-have-known-joe-biden-couldnt-do-the-job-for-years-n2594893

@Hiro, that's a zealot. An idiot. A mentally deranged lemming. You know about lemmings, of course?

Details on the American dead — 11 Marines, a Navy sailor and an Army soldier — also began to emerge, ahead of the Pentagon's release of their names. They included a young Marine and expectant father from Wyoming who was on his first tour of duty in Afghanistan.

Some of the young Marines were only 20 years old. I feel deep sadness and nauseous as I write this. Their president turned his back on them. It is unforgivable.

The White House and the Pentagon warned there could be more bloodshed ahead of President Joe Biden's fast-approaching deadline Tuesday to end the airlift and withdraw American forces. The next few days “will be our most dangerous period to date" in the evacuation, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said.

This is what happens to you when you are low on the totem pole and you truthfully criticize your military leaders.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-afghanistan-senior-leaders-accountability

It's strange that the U.S. is relying on one terrorist group, the Taliban affiliated with one very dead UBL and AQ, to keep an eye on another terrorist group, ISIS. It's been reported that the 2 terrorist groups don't like one another because they think differently about Islam. It's kind of like the Taliban want to take Afghanistan back to the 13th century, but ISIS (Oh, boy!) wants to take it all the way back to the 12th century. Anyway, it's difficult to believe that the Taliban isn't somewhat thrilled about this vicious attack carried out by ISIS which resulted in the deaths of 13 U.S. troops and nearly a hundred Afghans who were trying desperately to escape.

Trump had announced the date of his withdrawal, May 31st. What's the difference?

Biden as the current President ignoring all the condition based requirements for the initial Trump pullout plan.

.Team Trump’s withdrawal plan was sound. What proved catastrophic were Biden’s changes to that plan.

I’m intimately familiar with former President Donald Trump’s Afghanistan strategy. In November 2020, I was named chief of staff at the Pentagon, where one of my primary responsibilities was to wind down the forever war in Afghanistan.

Trump instructed me to arrange a conditions-based, methodical exit plan that would preserve the national interest. The plan ended up being fairly simple: The Afghan government and the Taliban were both told they would face the full force of the US military if they caused any harm to Americans or American interests in Afghanistan.

Next, both parties would negotiate to create an interim-joint government, and both sides had to repudiate al Qaeda. Lastly, a small special-operations force would be stationed in the country to take direct action against any terrorist threats that arose. When all those conditions were met — along with other cascading conditions — then a withdrawal could, and did, begin.

Kash Patel

Sgt. Keisha Brown/U.S. Army

We successfully executed this plan until Jan. 20, 2021. During this interval — when there were no US casualties in Afghanistan — President Ashraf Ghani and the Taliban conducted multiple rounds of negotiations, and al Qaeda was sidelined. The result was a successful drawdown of US forces in Afghanistan to 2,500, the lowest count since the dawn of the War on Terror.

We handed our entire plan to the incoming Biden administration during the lengthy transition. The new team simply wasn’t interested.

Everything changed when the new commander in chief declared that US forces would leave Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, pushing back the Trump administration’s timetable by four months. Crucially, he didn’t condition the withdrawal on continued adherence to the agreed-upon stipulations. It would be an unconditional pullout with an arbitrary date based on pure symbolism — and set in stone.

At that point, the Taliban sat back and waited for the date to draw near, then launched a countrywide offensive, knowing they had no reason to fear any reprisals from this administration. The ongoing chaos — not least the stranding of US personnel and allies — was the natural result of the Biden administration’s decision to eschew a conditions-based plan.

-NYP

There you go, this administration ignored all of the pre-conditions and any attempts for Biden to deflect or make excuses for a disastrous and failed pullout he did presided over and pushed for where now 13 Marines and hundreds killed and injured is something he can never walk away from and blaming his former predecessor makes him look weaker and unwilling to accept full responsibility for his actions. Joe Biden owns this 100%.

Trump had announced the date of his withdrawal, May 31st. What's the difference?

Over a hundred dead including 13 US military personnel. That's the difference.

And the stifling of the first amendment rights of even civilians and retired military under threats.

to cover up what Biden has done and shield him from accountability and legitimate public criticism. that’s the difference too.

And it has been like this his whole pathetic political career. It utterly baffles me as to why this this horrible human is coddled so much.

Good, the focus should be on getting as many people out as possible in the next few days.

Exactly.

Modern weapons are useless against terrorism.

Yes, Biden has made mistakes, but the Trump administration did too.

On the day after 9/11/2001, who would've ever imagined seeing photos 20 years later of U.S. Sec. of State Pompeo shaking hands with and making deals to hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban at Camp David. All of this done without any involvement of the U.S. propped up Afghan government. Yes, it was corrupt but it was representing the U.S. It should've been there, but it wasn't at all. What on earth was Trump thinking? And then when the Afghans laid down their arms and ran for the hills, why should the American people have been surprised. We abandoned them before Biden was ever elected president, so, when Biden began to abruptly start pulling the plug on everything, of course the Afghans ran for their lives.

The evacuation poorly planned by the previous administration and bungled by the following one. SNAFU

Maybe there was no other way . . . Like ripping a really sticky bandage off of a nasty infection full of puss. But the U.S. should've included the Afghan government in talks with the Taliban concerning the U.S. evacuation. It kind of looks like Trump took a shortcut by leaving one party completely out of the loop.

Modern weapons are useless against terrorism.

Which is why the islamic terrorists weaponize media, literature, airwaves, etc. Just like the political left in the western world.

If Trump had his way and the troops had been pulled from Afghanistan on his watch, and the same chaos occurred...

"The Afghan government hasn't collapsed, they're all just playing golf today".....

"The Taliban are not taking over cities, those are just "tourists".... carrying AK47s....

"There was no suicide bombing in Kabul, that was just a large traffic accident"....

"Trump's agreement where he trusted the Taliban and excluded the Afghan government and forced them to release 5,000 Taliban, ISIS, and AL Qaeda prisoners for a "promise" from the Taliban not to cooperate with these groups was a "brilliant" deal"...

"It's all Obama, Hillary, Hunter, and Hugo Chavez' fault"...

21 min ago

US Embassy in Kabul again warns US citizens to leave airport gates "immediately"

how can they evacuate our citizens if they keep telling them to leave?

If Trump had his way and the troops had been pulled from Afghanistan on his watch, and the same chaos occurred...

"The Afghan government hasn't collapsed, they're all just playing golf today".....

"The Taliban are not taking over cities, those are just "tourists".... carrying AK47s....

"There was no suicide bombing in Kabul, that was just a large traffic accident"....

"Trump's agreement where he trusted the Taliban and excluded the Afghan government and forced them to release 5,000 Taliban, ISIS, and AL Qaeda prisoners for a "promise" from the Taliban not to cooperate with these groups was a "brilliant" deal"...

"It's all Obama, Hillary, Hunter, and Hugo Chavez' fault"...

So how is blaming Trump hypotheticals going to absolve Biden’s disastrous execution of this botched pullout that got People and 13 of our Marines and Afghanis killed?

Bass4Funk,

Yes, Trump had a plan and it was a good one. Biden threw out the conditions and moved the date to Sept 11 for the optics.

Zichi, you ask whats the difference? The difference is competence.

I said it before, when you have incompetent people in the highest offices of government people die.

Biden is incompetent. That is clear. He has messed up every part of this operation from the start and it isnt over yet.