U.S. puts 8,500 troops on heightened alert amid Russia tension

I think I’m gonna try every morning to come here and check for the latest warmongering news.

I've read comments elsewhere that what is happening on the US/NATO side is similar to the second Iraq/MSM war, while some say 1914. Regardless, the MSM is definitely fueling the war propaganda fires of a Russian invasion taking place in the elites psychopathic minds.

Warmongering US/EU/NATO!!!

And the last 4 years the world was at peace and the US finally and for once wasn’t involved in any military conflict for the time.

What reality do you live in?

Sadly, this one we’re all living in

Putin doesn’t care.

And the last 4 years the world was at peace and the US finally and for once wasn’t involved in any military conflict for the time.

What reality do you live in?

He also believes Europe has not been involved in any military conflict since WW2, so don’t be too hopeful.

@Bob Fosse

Here we go again with you! When are you going to learn? 

So what conflict did Trump put us in? What conflict did he start? Oh that’s right, not one! 

You truly believe the last president didn’t use drones or authorize any military action? Really? Since you mentioned Syria, start there.

He also believes Europe has not been involved in any military conflict since WW2,

No, that’s not what he said, he said specifically that this administration is being taken for a ride to Putin and Xi’an delight. Put that’s the typical Washington establishment so No surprise..

so don’t be too hopeful

With this administration, absolutely not.

Bass Jan 8th. You said it.

“They have nukes and a very hardened and trained military and the Europeans haven’t seen any military conflict since the Second World War.”

Putin doesn’t care.

Putin does care, he just wants more control over the globe's oil and gas, he's not that different from the western oil barons. Putin has his troops in Libya, and Syria, and has sold weapons, like the US &UK, to Saudi and the UAE. And why is Putin interested in Venezuela? and why is he partnered with Iran?

Why 8,500? Why not 9,362? Or 4,221? Why 8,500?!

US finally and for once wasn’t involved in any military conflict for the time.

being taken for a ride to Putin and Xi’an delight. 

bass, I guess you are saying that Biden is both a warmonger and militarily soft. Am I right?

BTW, what is Xi'an delight?

Why 8,500? Why not 9,362? Or 4,221? Why 8,500?!

Because it’s easily to divide by 100, 85, 17, 5, while the others are not. lol

“They have nukes and a very hardened and trained military and the Europeans haven’t seen any military conflict since the Second World War.”

Yes, that is true and while the US is being naive to send troops to the region, China is buzzing near Taiwan airspace provoking the tiny nation and this admin doesn't see what is slowly being played out. The timing....none of this is a coincidence.

I guess you are saying that Biden is both a warmonger and militarily soft. Am I right?

Warmonger, yes, militariy=naive

What exactly are these troops going to do if Russia does attack Ukraine?

Smart Move, again the U.S. is coming to the aid of an alliance, Putin has miscalculated this one badly and it's hard to retract and save face.

...And the Ruble has lost almost 10% of its value against the dollar, falling to near historic lows.

...And the Russian Central Bank has stopped all purchases of foreign currencies of any kind, forcing average Russians panic buying reserve currencies to do the same.

...And Russia's raging inflation is twice the level of the US, in spite of massive rate hikes by the RCB, and rising.

But yeah, half-activating 1/10th the number of Russian soldiers now fully armed and currently menacing the borders of Ukraine (alone with thousands of "volunteers" already long shooting inside parts of the country)...and it's the West's fault, right? Smh.

When did we pull out of Afghanistan? Was it under 45? Nope, which means we were engaged in a military conflict during the last four years.

Sorry, we didn't have zero wars under the previous admin. Not with Russia, Iran, China, or North Korea.

*Still, Trump was unable to end those endless wars.

BUT the main thing is, during those 4 years the world knew Trump was crazy and that unpredictability made our adversaries concerned and that is what you want in a leader, the element of confidence, uncertainty, and being unpredictable, traits this President and admin doesn't.

Please stop spreading blatant misinformation.

I didn't. Having skirmishes, taking out radical jihadists is not a full-on major military conflict.

As for your assertion, the world was at peace under 45

For the US and European military, it was. But back to being serious and the real problem at hand and what this admin is missing, actually the world is the fact that China and Russia coming closer together as military allies and that is VERY bad news and should there be a conflict or the US engages in a military conflict with Russia, what's not to say that China won't seize upon the situation and start a conflict or invade Taiwan or how about coming to Russia's aides or even send troops of their own? This has the potential of turning into a very nightmarish scenario.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/23/russia-china-sign-roadmap-closer-military-cooperation.html

Their more focused on the Marxist CRT crap then training for war!

Looks like someone should have focused more in school. Genius.

Why exactly is this such a huge " non-starter " for NATO ? 

Because they invaded Crimea.

Ironic but US needs to go back to its country.

As someone suggested on JT yesterday if Mexico tossed out its leader, elected a pro Russia/China govt and announced they wanna join their military alliance, does anyone think US would not react just as Putin does?

Well put.

This is an outrage, the USA people, Government could well commit up to 50,000 troops plus billions of dollars in military support.

Whilst France, Germany, EU with their vested energy interests run for cover behind the sofa.

God bless America.

Freedom in Europe would not exist otherwise.

Putin doesn’t care. Russians love the idea of Ukraine back in the fold of Russia. If you think he cares, you’re wrong. There is no better way to rally a country around its leader than a good war. It’s politics 101.

When Trump doubled down on a lie, the media and practically everyone mocked him for it.

Biden doubled down on a lie today, and you can tell who mocked Trump because it was popular to, and who mocked him because he doubled down on a lie thinking that made it more believable.

Time for NATO to mass troops in Poland and Lithuania and be prepared to take that slice of Russian territory that sits between them. Also send missile systems to Latvia and Estonia, (NATO states) and sit them in the border area's close to Russia. All in NATO territory and absolutely nothing for Russia to be concerned about. Just moving stuff around where it is allowed to be.

Putin the warmonger loves his power over all Russian's and his power to intimidate others. Lets him go to bed with a smile on his face I am sure.

Russia must be stopped. If Russia takes Ukraine then Xi will feel nobody will stop him if China tries to take Taiwan.

It sets a dangerous precedent for the world.

Well, in not wholly unrelated news, China has denied asking Russia to delay an invasion of Ukraine:

Chinese Foreign Ministry on Monday refuted a Bloomberg report which claimed that the Chinese leader allegedly asked Russian President Vladimir Putin not to invade Ukraine during the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympic Games. The ministry said that the news is fake, noting it’s not only a slander and provocation to China-Russia relations but also interference with and sabotage against the Olympics.

Zhao Lijian, spokesperson of the Foreign Ministry, said at a routine press conference on Monday that such a despicable trick will not deceive the international community.

“I want to stress that today’s China-Russia relations are mature, stable and resilient. The two sides have maintained close communication at all levels. Any attempt to drive a wedge between the two countries or challenge mutual trust is futile,” Zhao said.

I don’t think that quite played out the way the US media was expecting.

Well, Lord Putin does not intend to invade Ukraine, but the clownish "USJustice League" in its fear of continuing to lose hegemony in Europe, continues to make drama at their own convenience..

Do US want real problems??.. Put its "democratic" missiles in Ukraine and you will see how Russia will put missiles in Cuba and Venezuela, there US will know what fear is, I would love to see that.. Lol..

And the last 4 years the world was at peace and the US finally and for once wasn’t involved in any military conflict for the time.

Politicizing problems just to praise your favorite politician is ridiculous..

Someone explain this.

Ukraine claims to it's territory including Crimea are based on the maps created by the USSR the same USSR, that Ukraine claims was illegally occupying Ukraine.

So on one hand Ukraine claims what the USSR did was "illegal occupation" but then uses that illegal occupation giving Ukraine territory to justify its claims to territory.

Putin is a wannabe dictator, but the present Ukrainian government is loaded with fascists, that hate everyone not seen as pure Ukrainian, this does not just include ethinc Russians, but Jews, Poles, Latvians, Roma, ect... Thus the rewriting of history to make Stephan Bandera and UPA heros, and why other ethnic groups have fled or joined the breakaway part of the Ukraine.

The problem we have here are 2 evils there is no good side.

These 2 very old men I knew in Canada both veterans of WW2 one was from the former Yugoslavia the other escaped Estonia after the war. The first one said to me during the breakup of Yugoslavia that the Croatians would turn on the Bosnian and do their own ethnic cleansing, the Estonian said that if and when the USSR broke up the ones to watch are the Ukrainian as they would do the same.

This was said to me decades before what we are seeing now.

Not your original claim, which means it’s a deflection.

Nope

And here you admit your original assertion was inaccurate.

You got it wrong again.

You said “military conflict,” not “major military conflict.” You’re moving the goalposts again to avoid admitting you were incorrect.

Semantics, it’s much easier to just say, I hate Trump with all my fiber, but at least the war machine didn’t happen while he was in office. Not hard to do and definitely no shame in it. Truth is salvation.

Not your original assertion.

It was, read it slowly and you will see it.

As someone suggested on JT yesterday if Mexico tossed out its leader, elected a pro Russia/China govt and announced they wanna join their military alliance, does anyone think US would not react just as Putin does?

History tells you the answer to the that one. Does anyone remember Cuba, 1959-62? (There wasn't even an election involved then. It was a guerrilla takeover of a neighbouring country.) Anyway, as many of you (hopefully) know, the US was understandably unhappy about it, and went as far as sponsoring an attempted counter-insurgency (Bay of Pigs), just as Russia has been doing with irregular units in eastern Ukraine. At no point did they mass 100,000 troops/ make preparations for a full scale invasion.

If Putin is smart (and I think he is), he won't actually launch an invasion.

I wonder how many here have actually known ethnic Ukrainians?

Where a portion of my family in Canada live, the region is highly ethnic Ukrainian, they are ultra pro Stephan Bandera, UPA, anti-Semitic, Poles, Latvians, and pretty much every other ethnic group from that region, so much so that even 2 or 3 generations in Canada they still bare well known for their "jokes" about Poles, Jews, etc...

I wouldn't want to live in Putin's Russia but if I were ethnic/Russian, Polish, Jewish, Roma, Latvian, etc...I wouldn't want to live under the present Ukrainian government either.

It is a no win situation for these ethnic minorities.

Russia and China have both been staging for military action and we could be looking at a minor WWIII.

Those on the right talk about everything happening now because of Biden, but this has been a long game that was ignored for some time and probably made worse by the placation by Trump, mistaking Putin and Xi as his friends and overstating the power of his personality.

The risks in the EU (aside from the Ukraine) is less than the risks in the AP from China. I don't think an EU conflict will escalate, but a China invasion of Taiwan could escalate quickly.

Although it has a lot of manpower under arms, Russia does not have the economy to support a prolonged war. Their entire system is corrupt, built around maintaining a few oligarchs in lavish lifestyle.

The democracies need to unite to stand up to Putin. If he invades Ukraine again, he should be pushed back out. Dictators react to power and force, more so than to logic and morality. If the democracies had stood up to Hitler sooner, WW II could have been avoided.

Although it has a lot of manpower under arms, Russia does not have the economy to support a prolonged war. Their entire system is corrupt, built around maintaining a few oligarchs in lavish lifestyle.

I suggest you need to review Russian history.

I will give you 2 points to look up.

WW2 and Napoleon.

Pretty much

Russia does not have the economy to support a prolonged war. Their entire system is corrupt, built around maintaining a few oligarchs in lavish lifestyle.

was what the German leaders and French thought at those times.

As I previously pointed out the Russians hate one thing more than their Dictators, Emperors and oligarchy and that is Foreigners trying to invade, control or tell them what to do. And history has shown this over and over again.

@Jexan

8,500 is a joke. 

Did you read the article?

"Kirby said Austin was anticipating the potential for NATO to activate what it calls the NATO Response Force, a multinational force totaling about 40,000 troops. Most of the 8,500 U.S. troops being put on higher alert would be sent as part of that response force, if it's activated, Kirby said. He added that he could not rule out that U.S. troops already based in Europe could be shifted east as further reinforcements."

That's the US making the biggest individual contribution to a force of 40,000+ troops, not to mention various weaponry that member states are contributing. (Plus Ukraine has a very decent sized force of its own.) And today:

"The USS Harry S Truman aircraft carrier, along with its strike group and air wing, joined patrolling activities across the Mediterranean Sea on Monday, the first time since the cold war that a full US carrier group has come under Nato command."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/nato-reinforces-eastern-borders-as-ukraine-tensions-mount

The Russians can't be under illusions about the price they'll pay if they do something stupid.

probably made worse by the placation by Trump, mistaking Putin and Xi as his friends and overstating the power of his personality.

Lots of folks on here making some serious accusations without really having the facts. It's OK, we're used to it when it comes to Trump.

FYI, Trump was the President who started funneling weapons to Ukraine after Obama refused.

As Glenn Greenwald pointed out:

”Trump spent 4 years attacking 2 core Russian vital interests: he 1) flooded Ukraine with lethal arms to fight Russia (which Obama refused to do) and 2) did everything to sabotage Moscow’s pipeline to Germany (which Biden allowed).”

I think what we're seeing is actually directed at Germany. They refuse to give up on Nordstream 2, Trumps sabotage didn't work, so now the Elite are pushing a fake war with Russia just to get Germany to stop NordStream. Pure speculation, just a gut feeling because nothing else makes sense.

The current deadlock must be very stressful for the Ukrainian people, not knowing what is going to happen. Putin intends to invade and install a pro-Russian government before withdrawing again.

I hope Europe steps up.

Hit Russia where it hurts. Turn off the pipeline and turn it off completely. In the meantime, beef up Romania’s, Poland’s defenses, etc. militarily. In other words, isolate Russia and treat her like an outcast.

Make the Russians pay with blood.

Hit Russia where it hurts. Turn off the pipeline and turn it off completely

And watch Europe freeze while China arrange to buy from Russia.

> . In the meantime, beef up Romania’s, Poland’s defenses, etc.

Against who Russia or Ukraine?

Let's face it both these ethnic groups have also been the targets of the Nationalist government of Ukraine.

militarily. In other words, isolate Russia and treat her like an outcast.

Russians don't care, and actually prefer if the west stayed out of their backyard.

Poland, could arm itself to the teeth Russian couldn't care less as long as Ukraine isn't and not part of NATO as a buffer zone.

Russia doesn't want Ukraine despite the war mongers claims, what it wants is a weak poorly armed Ukraine between Russia and NATO.

Taking Ukraine would put Russian and NATO troops face to face and that is what Russia doesn't want.

Funny how so many on the western side want the face to face troops no buffer zone.

Do they miss the cold war with NATO and Warsaw pact troops face to face seconds away from WW3?

Apparently US military is very serious in its heightened deployment of troops alert, while US keeps luring Russia to start a war.

An old tactic used many times elsewhere..

@Antiquesaving

"And watch Europe freeze while China arrange to buy from Russia."

Of course not! There are other sources of energy, maybe not as cheap as from Russia, but would you sell your soul to stay warm. As for China, Russia and China are both two sides of the same coin. One dictator wants to overthrow a free government in Ukraine and the other dictator wants to overthrow the democracy in Taiwan. China and Russia are both the same. Treat them both like outcasts. They need the money more than the free nations of the world do. Yes, sacrifices will have to be made, but it'll be far more difficult for them if we stick to our guns.

Do the free nations give in to dictators like Putin & Xi, or do they stand up together unitedly against foreign invasions of free and peaceful governments by dictators? The crossroads are upon this generation.

Do the free nations give in to dictators like Putin & Xi,

No!

Nor do they back a Nationalist, Fascist loving government like that of the present Ukrainian government.

Yes Putin and Xi are the same, but the leaders of Ukraine are no different.

Only once they rid themselves of the UPA legacy, the right wing anti-Semitic anti polish anti Latvian anti-russian basically Auntie everything not pure Ukrainian elements they depend on the government of Ukraine is no better and we shouldn't be dealing with them or with Putin or Xi.

Make the Russians pay with blood.

Are you volunteering to be first on the front line?

If not then don't go saying things that will get others killed.

When it comes to their own territory Russians and Russia is not a place you want to try and go into.

Just ask Germany and France.

Yes Putin and Xi are the same, but the leaders of Ukraine are no different.

Not true. While Ukraine is not perfect, and does have a long way to go, Ukrainians are much, much freer than Russia. Please.

https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores

https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores

You gotta be kidding

You gotta be kidding

Please go on, be specific. How many countries has Ukraine invaded, and how many has Russia？

Which country routinely jails and assassinates journalists？

I'm no fan of Putin or Russia but I have to wonder whether expanding NATO into former Soviet-block countries, stationing troops on some of them and arming the Ukrainians is really a good idea. It was bound to cause a response and probably Putin and your average Russian have had enough of NATO's encroachment. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Russia arming Mexico. Not a good situation if Putin can't back down because he would look weak to his own people. Given what happened in WW2 I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't back down on his demand for NATO containment .

Joe will eventually blunder into some kind of conflict. If with Russia maybe even a nuclear one.

Ukraine applied to be members of NATO. NATO isn't encroaching. There are plenty of criticisms you could make of NATO, but in this circumstance, this isn't one of them.

The US stirred up trouble in Ukraine in the 1990s. People in Ukraine probably would have been fine had it not been for US interference, stirring up trouble and actually aiding a neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine. Yes, do your research.