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Ukraine asks G7 to step up arms supply, pressure on Russia

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Yrral- there is nothing wrong with asking for help. Everyone should ask for help when it is needed.

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@ Ingvar:

Respectfully, Russia’s annual inflation rate climbed to 17.8% in April, up from 16.7% the previous month. It was the highest reading since January. On a monthly basis, prices increased by 1.56%. Source: the State Statistics Service.

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Rodney - no, I think we will keep giving them the good stuff, and lots of it. As well as training and intelligence. And of course humanitarian aid. Until the invaders go back home.

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You can support the Russian version of events as much as you like, but cause and effect? Your (not yours specifically) actions generates a response (a scientific principle) often overlooked by narcissistic people. ‘Total surprise? “‘When things don’t go as planned then anger and a refusal to even recognise their mistake. Thankfully the G7 and NATO are diverse enough to stop such narcissistic actions and react rationally, and this is the result. A knowledge of Russian military tactics, an embracing of technology and a focus on intelligence gathering rather than trying to play a numbers game. So a single company or Battalion of Ukrainian troops are far more effective then multiple battalions of poorly trained, poorly armed young men who are really confused.

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nobody is entitled to nothing,that somebody is not willing to give you

I would say Ukraine is entitled to compensation from Russia for it's destruction and murders. I doubt Russia wants to give any.

As for the support Ukraine is getting from around the world, it has ALL been voluntary. Any suggestion otherwise would be a false narrative.

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@ Ingvar:

I'm unaware of any books by Goebbels, Himmler and Goering and unaware of any significant speeches or articles by the latter two.

Respectfully, Goebbels was the author of at least several books, including the infamous Kampf um Berlin in 1939. He also authored the malodorous Michael; ein deutsches schicksal in tagebuchblättern, 1939. He delivered a keynote speech, The truth about Spain to the National Socialist Party Congress in Nurnberg, 1937, which was noteworthy in international diplomacy at the time.

Goering was credited with one book that I am aware of; Germany reborn, 1934. He is also know for giving the “Nationalismus und Sozialismus: Rede auf der NSBO. im Berliner Sportpalast on 9. April 1933,” basically a psycho pep-talk that his party would solve the problems of the workers; known, still, as the "little fish" speech, for the ironic (and completely untrue) statement that opponents of his party were “little fish” that had nothing to fear, since he and his trolls would not seek revenge. Within the next five years, most opposition leaders were murdered.

And don't get me started on Himmler and his Posen Speech of 4 October, 1943). Ultimate in disgusting!

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@vic

what about the signed agreement that Russia would never attack Ukraine !?

Not to mention the countless promises by Putin & other government officials that Russia had no intentions of invading Ukraine

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I think it's topics like this that go to show how deep rooted Russian interference in Internet sites/Social Media has become so huge that even a small, respectable website like Japan Today is targeted.

Yeah, but they’re not fooling anybody except maybe themselves.

Russian propaganda stopped working a long time ago, it’s just disruption now. A large portion of Russians don’t believe it either but 15 years in prison is quite a deterrent against speaking your mind.

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Russia should leave all Ukraine territory including Crimea and all of donbass and in return Ukraine declarers neutrality, It may join the EU economic zone but not NATO, for a period of 25 years at which point consultations will take place to see what direction Ukraine and Russia are interested in going at that point. Russia to provide compensation for destruction of cities and assistance in rebuilding.

That secures the border of Russia and Ukraine for a quarter century at which point the leaders of both nations (who will be different to today's leaders) can consult.

If Russia is serious about peace and cooperation as well as desiring a secure border with Ukraine, that would be the best way forward.

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Klaus,do you think it responsible for a country,to beg for charity,money do not grow on trees in America

@Yrral, Do you think it is responsible to NOT ask for help with the survival of your people and the freedom and sovereignty of you country at stake, when you have been invaded by a larger nation with a stronger military?

I certainly think it is appropriate.

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As an alternative

how about Russia butting out of other countries internal affairs !?

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Respectfully, Russia’s annual inflation rate climbed to 17.8% in April, up from 16.7% the previous month. It was the highest reading since January. On a monthly basis, prices increased by 1.56%.

Sounds about right. Inflation in Russia has pretty much come to a screeching halt while it's only getting started in Japan, North American and Europe in particular.

The hits keep coming. Don’t stop now, keep your momentum.

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In the world war II, Finland was aligned with Nazi Germany and when defeated made an agreement with Russia to stay neutral forever and Russia would leave them in peace. Now Finland is trying to break the agreement by joining NATO.

Things change Ingvar, Finland have been working with NATO for a long time.

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US president Biden has pledged $33 billion in TAXPAYER dollars to ukraine in weapons and other aid. In congress now...

UK prime minister Johnson pledged another $1.3 billion of TAXPAYER pounds...

So, no. It is not voluntary.

How are pledges of funding not voluntary? In what universe does Ukraine have the power to force the US and UK fund their defense? Of course it is all voluntary. Are there a few dissenters in each country that object? Sure there are, they are for the most part pro Russian.

The majority of Ukrainians see the Russians as liberators entering their own, NATO occupied lands.

With all the Ukrainians fighting to evict the Russian forces, your statement is demonstrably false. The vast majority of Ukrainians see Russian soldiers as murdering invaders of their land and NATO is providing the means for them to resist Russia and defend their country. Only pro Russians say otherwise.

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but won’t accept ultimatums from Moscow.

Nor should Ukraine have to accept ultimatums from Russia or any other neighbor.

which he alleged “prefers wars to talks.”

Putin's Russia has indeed shown it prefers wars, talks with Russia are one-sided and not a word said by Putin or any of his stooges like Lavrov can be believed.Yes whatabouters, and others in the anti-west, anti-democracy herds, I am aware the US/NATO have also started wars, which is also bad, and have lied to get their ways.

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@Yrral

It is called being desperate. Because people are dying by the hundreds every day. Frustration, because nobody will fight along side you. Anger at being unfairly invaded by a bigger, stronger nation. Desperation as your nation is slowly carved up.

Most people would show understanding and empathy with their plight. It seems like you do not.

This is a situation beyond their control, and they are fighting every day for the security of their future.

They must do everything they can to remain free and independent from a country intent on ruling it and making it part of Russia and eliminating and vestige of Ukraine identity.

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It's official! Inflation in Russia 0.1% per week and still falling. In line with levels before the liberation of the Ukraine began. Russia is crushing Japan, the EU and North America in the economic war. And the Uni Qlo, Ikea and etc stores will never be allowed to reopen in Russia.

The supply of stolen grains and other goods robbed from Ukraine may help push down prices in the market.... how pathetic.

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One more item about Russia's economy supposedly crushing it.

The Central Bank of Russia yesterday issued a new policy report, forecasting the Russian economy to shrink between 8 to 10% through the remaining CY, and could contract up to 3% the following year, before potentially returning to growth in 2024.

At the same time, the CBR expects its key interest rate to range between 12.5 to 14% this year, 9 to 11% in 2023, and 6 to 8% in 2024. The bank cut its key lending rate by 300bps to 14% during its April meeting (more than market expectations).

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It's official! Inflation in Russia 0.1% per week and still falling. In line with levels before the liberation of the Ukraine began. Russia is crushing Japan, the EU and North America in the economic war. And the Uni Qlo, Ikea and etc stores will never be allowed to reopen in Russia.

It’s official! Russia to be renamed La la land.

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As an alternative, how about being a neutral country, recognizing Donbass,

They already recognize Donbass, it is territory belonging to Ukraine.

your promise not to join NATO, and not destroying your country.

Russia is destroying Ukraine. Ukraine is defending against Russian unwelcome in Ukraine.

My first post on this topic is the best option for Russia and Ukraine to move forward and reach peace.

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@Yrral

it their attitude,that turn lots of people off,

So you object to their desperation to remain free? You see their requests as demands and their opinion that more could be done to sanction Russia as unreasonable? Many more do not, and most understand why they ask for help.

should Ukrainian that sold out their country, be blame for the situation their in,it was them decided too side with Russia.

The separatists were encouraged by a foreign nation to declare independence, as a way for that foreign nation to gain territory without a direct conflict, but that didnt eventuate. Russia miscalculated and it is responsible for all deaths over the past eight years in Ukraine. Some separatists were Russians and others Ukrainians who consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian, perhaps being second or third generation and originally from Russia. Many Russians moved there for work during the time of USSR. But at the end of the day they tried to illegally break territory away from Ukraine rather than simply emigrate to Russia. They are responsible for their actions, and Russia is responsible for it's actions. Ukraine has the right to defend its territory from enemies both foreign and domestic.

Yes, Ukraine is breaking every agreement . They have been attacking the Donbass region for the last 8 years with the loss of more than 13,000 civilian lives.

That is one perspective. Another is that Ukraine is defending its sovereign territory, and it has every right to do so.

In the world war II, Finland was aligned with Nazi Germany and when defeated made an agreement with Russia to stay neutral forever and Russia would leave them in peace. Now Finland is trying to break the agreement by joining NATO.

When Russia invaded Finland in 1939 it was Russia aligned with Nazi Germany, not Finland.

The unprovoked invasion of Finland was for territorial gain, and they did capture and hold the second biggest city in Finland. The Nazi's then turned on their Russian friends and invaded Russia.

Finland had the oportunity to recapture its lost territory and did so with German help. For the German help, they allowed the creation of one Finish division to fight in the German army in Russia.

At no time did the Finish army or units under Finish control go past their original border, and fight inside Russia. They did not fight at Leningrad and refused all Hitlers attempts to get Finland to press into Russia. Eventually the Finish division was withdrawn from German army control, with some few hundred soldiers staying in the German army to continue fighting against Russia.

At no point did Finland ever make an agreement with Russia to stay neutral forever. They made an agreement with the USSR and the treaty came to an end in 1992 with the signing of a new treaty between Finland and the post-Soviet Russia.

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Russia will be made to pay $ for what it has ruin that includes compensation the dead citizenship and dead soldiers. The EU will still want LPG until 2050 when zero fossil fuels kicks in and Russia will be garnished a decent %age to pay Ukrain for damages. Or Russia can try and off load it on the world market which Opec will oppose. Because it will bring down price pre barrel. Russia sorry Putin was relying on the misinformation that NATO would not get involved. Making for a easy take over and back to the status quo. Putin is totalled beaten and hence Russia is also.

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Who gains most from this war? Weapons manufacturers in the US and Europe can barely hide their glee over prospects of increasing business opportunities in Ukraine.

Not to mention those who own Russia's many arms manufacturers who will now have to replace all equipment lost by Russia and all the munitions used in their invasion. Those oligarchs are throwing parties every night. No doubt they encourage Putin to keep this war going as long as possible.

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I like that G7 LOGO where can I get one, LOL

It must have cost an arm and a leg to design.

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Who gains most from this war? Weapons manufacturers in the US and Europe can barely hide their glee over prospects of increasing business opportunities in Ukraine.

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Peter14

As for the support Ukraine is getting from around the world, it has ALL been voluntary. Any suggestion otherwise would be a false narrative.

US president Biden has pledged $33 billion in TAXPAYER dollars to ukraine in weapons and other aid. In congress now...

UK prime minister Johnson pledged another $1.3 billion of TAXPAYER pounds...

So, no. It is not voluntary.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk-provide-13-billion-pounds-further-military-support-ukraine-2022-05-07/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiav6rE3N33AhUelWoFHXToCwQQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw1cOfhXKDUNKJQRX9brOXvl

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/29/bidens-33-billion-ukraine-aid-request-hits-early-snag-over-covid-funding-in-congress.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiOs5eS3N33AhVSkWoFHVaPAN8QFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw2HXcdwpFZWTaPCCh1E2ajq

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Don't act like Rand Paul (R.!!) who does everything to delay the aid package for Ukraine.

I think he should.

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Klaus,do you think it responsible for a country,to beg for charity,money do not grow on trees in America

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Russia , Ukraine and the G7 all have double standards and hypocritical.

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U,Peter, Klaus,it different from asking for help and demanding for help,the Ukrainian act if the are entitled too other people funds,while accusing them of funding Russia war against them mostly Germany,the German pay their bills,I feel that people of Palestine , should have people fund their liberation,if that is the case of somebody attacking ,you as a whole, nobody is entitled to nothing,that somebody is not willing to give you

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As an alternative, how about being a neutral country, recognizing Donbass, your promise not to join NATO, and not destroying your country.

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tooheysnewToday 08:13 am JST

As an alternative

how about Russia butting out of other countries internal affairs !?

You mean like the countries that attacked Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. The country that displaced Islanders on various Pacific islands so they could test their nuclear bombs.

What countries are Russia butting in to their affairs ?

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They should only be given small arms. They position in schools, kindergartens and rooftop apartments. With small arms instead of antiaircraft and anti tank hand held missiles and multiple missile rocket launchers, of course they will kill their own civilians. Afghans won a 20 year war with NATO using only small arms.

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RodneyToday 08:09 am JST

As an alternative, how about being a neutral country, recognizing Donbass, your promise not to join NATO, and not destroying your country.

Yes, Ukraine is breaking every agreement . They have been attacking the Donbass region for the last 8 years with the loss of more than 13,000 civilian lives.

In the world war II, Finland was aligned with Nazi Germany and when defeated made an agreement with Russia to stay neutral forever and Russia would leave them in peace. Now Finland is trying to break the agreement by joining NATO.

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Respectfully, Russia’s annual inflation rate climbed to 17.8% in April, up from 16.7% the previous month. It was the highest reading since January. On a monthly basis, prices increased by 1.56%.

Sounds about right. Inflation in Russia has pretty much come to a screeching halt while it's only getting started in Japan, North American and Europe in particular.

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Both of them is between a rock and hard place,this what happened when two dysfunctional countries go to war,they are co dependent on each others, Putin intended to liquidate Ukraine,and not only control the country,also use by Ukraine as piggy bank,to enrich Russia

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It's official! Inflation in Russia 0.1% per week and still falling. In line with levels before the liberation of the Ukraine began. Russia is crushing Japan, the EU and North America in the economic war. And the Uni Qlo, Ikea and etc stores will never be allowed to reopen in Russia.

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