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Virus spreads to more countries as new cases slow in China

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By ADAM GELLER

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But Trump said it was very, very, much under control! He said he was responsible for keeping everyone safe and there is no problem!

This just has to be "fake news" Trump is NEVER wrong!

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6 people is neither a pandemic, nor an outbreak. ... not even close.

So far I've not read any 'official' account saying whether this is a pandemic.

One of the many unfortunate realities of this post-truth era when none - not one - of the globe's leaders can be trusted, and when media in all forms allow posters with zero knowledge of what might actually be going on to post opinions is that false info, fake news, alt facts, misinformation, slimed truths of all sorts can be easily spread. Spread like a virus. That there are states and organizations paying employees to further spread misinformation, usually intended for intellectually vulnerable audiences, is a reminder to check the source of what's posted.

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VP Pence has got it!

Photo of VP Pence and the task force in prayer to God for the coronavirus.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/we-are-so-screwed-photo-of-pence-praying-with-coronavirus-task-force-draws-criticism-from-the-left-praise-from-the-right/

I'm not religious, or even a fan of Pence, but why is this a problem if a religious person is seen praying for something? I don't really see why this is even in the news or why you think it's funny.

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But Trump said it was very, very, much under control! He said he was responsible for keeping everyone safe and there is no problem!

Comparing the amount of people living in the US to have 88 cases, 3 deaths and compare that to China that has 88,000 infected and who knows how many people have died considering the lack of transparency China is so famous for, we do have it more under control, generally speaking

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Sorry, I meant 6 deaths, my bad.

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Tesla stock jumped 10% yesterday in one day. 

I am sure that’s great comfort to those who died and are infected!!

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On a lighter note “ At Fashion Week in Paris, attendees greeted each other with elbow touches instead of kisses.” That’s pretty funny to imagine, sweety darling.

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South Korea, with the worst outbreak outside of China, said it recorded 599 new cases Monday, bringing the total to 4,335. The death toll rose to 26. To cope, the country said hospitals will be reserved for patients with serious symptoms or preexisting conditions, with mild cases now routed to other designated facilities

SK has finally acknowledged that they have failed to prioritize the course of action. No matter how much they put emphasis on identifying and counting infection cases (which is responsible for a recent spike), it is almost meaningless without proper medical care and service capacity available at local hospitals.

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There is a simple explanation for the sudden explosion in world wide cases: People are beginning to show symptoms, and limited testing regimes have picked some of them up. The more you test, the more cases you find. 

Unfortunately though, the fact is that it has been silently spreading for months. The majority have only slight symptoms (or even no symptoms) following what can extremely long incubation period, in which they are spreading the virus anyway. 

Many of us therefore never even bother to get checked out, and carry on as usual when we feel slightly off. We have heard of multiple instances of this. 

People who have been saying it is just like a normal cold are kind of right. If you're going to get it, you're going to get it. 

The issue is now how to deal with it and concentrate on the upcoming 20% of serious cases. I'm actually beginning to think testing for it is a waste of time, since experts have been saying 40-70% of the world will get it anyway.  

Best just try and prepare the best we can for the coming 20% of serious cases. The rest: if you have mild cold like symptoms, do stay away from the hospitals, and let them deal with the more serious cases (which is what governments have been asking people to do). 

If the Chinese data is to be believed and cases have peaked there, that is excellent news, but the only reason they have contained it is due to the strict quarantines they implemented.

We are in for some tough times.

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I just read a report from the WHO stating South Korea is winning the battle and controlling the spread of the virus. Meanwhile, Japan is still dithering around as more and more cases are confirmed.

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Tesla stock jumped 10% yesterday in one day. The markets aren’t worried about Corona it seems.

Seems that Trump is now on record as being the president for the largest fall in stock prices in US history!

Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investing/dow-stock-market-selloff/index.html

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Disillusioned, SK does a good job. This is really about technology and determination of govt.

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Seems that Trump is now on record as being the president for the largest fall in stock prices in US history!

Over/under on how long it will take Trump to send a series of tweets blaming the Democrats?

Does anyone know whether Trump's hiding away ala Howard Hughes in one of his resort's germ-free safe rooms?

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He did indeed say, it could take about a year. This is the problem with liberals and the media, they cherry pick the Presidents words as usual.

President Trump mused about finding a “cure” for the COVID-19 coronavirus and defended the safety of his campaign rallies ahead of a White House meeting with drug company leaders.

Trump is eager to halt a stock market panic and quiet Democratic criticism of his handling of the coronavirus as scientists warn the virus may have spread widely in the US, though there are fewer than 90 confirmed cases.

“We’re talking about a vaccine, maybe a cure, it’s possible, we’ll see about that,” Trump told reporters Monday morning. “We’ve asked them to accelerate whatever they’re doing in terms of a vaccine.”

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You missed the largest rise in history as well. Any reason you would mention one but not the other? Still hoping for coronavirus to help your politics?

Dow rallies 1,294 points, most in its history

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html

Seems that Trump is now on record as being the president for the largest fall in stock prices in US history!

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The tragic truth of infectious epidemics, more than other medical issues, is that stalwart individualism, the free market distribution of medical services, public health policy heavily determined by profiting providers, lack of long term social investment in resources and unproven theories of cause and treatment all fail when faced with the anonymous power of nature. In the end we may have to pay heavily for our shortsightedness.

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@Ptownsend

So far I've not read any 'official' account saying whether this is a pandemic

You're waiting for an official account to tel you what been obvious for some time? Reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes.

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I'm not religious, or even a fan of Pence, but why is this a problem if a religious person is seen praying for something?

It blurs the distinction between church and state, which are separate under the US constitution. Also, he could have used the tube to do something of practical benefit.

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There are probably at least a million infected in the U.S. that are not showing symptoms. Many of these infections would have happened with exposures too low to get going quickly at first, they are latent and will pop up over a month from now.

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Democrats: "Walls are evil. Not one dollar for Trump's wall"

Coronavirus: "Good... good..."

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He also forced the entire task force into prayer rather than free choice.

I didn't see anywhere that it said he forced them to pray.

It blurs the distinction between church and state, which are separate under the US constitution. Also, he could have used the tube to do something of practical benefit.

I hate to break it to both of you but people pray. When I was in the military, entire ceremonies were opened with a prayer. You know what I did, being no religious? I stood quietly while those that were prayed. It's a non issue.

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Hmmm.......I just watched a live stream of US VP Putz say there are only 43 cases confirmed. Someone is spreading viral BS.

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In private yes, but otherwise separation of church and state. He also forced the entire task force into prayer rather than free choice.

Every session of the House of Representatives and every session of the Senate is opened with a prayer. The tradition of opening government meetings with prayer dates back to the Framers. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the Supreme Court’s 2014 decision upholding legislative prayer "As a practice that has long endured, legislative prayer has become part of our heritage and tradition, part of our expressive idiom, similar to the Pledge of Allegiance, inaugural prayer, or the recitation of 'God save the United States and this honorable court' at the opening of this court's sessions."

The practice is intended to focus the participants on a common purpose and instill a sense of selfless commitment to a higher cause.

People do it at both public and private events, at sporting events, town halls, even Alcoholics Anonymous meets. It’s pretty much something that regular Americans do, on a regular basis.

So what’s your point?

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Tesla stock jumped 10% yesterday in one day. 

I am sure that’s great comfort to those who died and are infected!!

Stock market plunges due to coronavirus concerns

I am sure that's great comfort to the Democrats who are trying to unseat Trump!!

Oh but wait, what's this?...

DOW sees highest single-day point gain in history... There appears to be an army in the White House trying to come up with vaccine ideas and make them as quickly as possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goWUlgNTlEY

The Democrats are in panic!!

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The local authorities in China are under-reporting new cases because they don't want Beijing to roll the tanks in and close off the area.

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@serranoCoronavirus: "Good... good..."

I am sure that's great comfort to the Democrats who are trying to unseat Trump!!

Said no one.

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And Bill Gates doesn’t miss an opportunity!

He’s calling for manufacturing facilities that can manufacture a new vaccine in a matter of weeks. Governments will need to finance the procurement and distribution of these untested vaccines.

THERE IS NO TIME TO WASTE !

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/How-to-respond-to-COVID-19

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And Bill Gates doesn’t miss an opportunity!

Gates has funded some excellent programs, especially healthcare related ones. But he's also a major share holder in several big pharmas. (Google/Yandex Gate big pharma) Fox in the hen house? Pence has also received lots from big pharma. As have several Democratic candidates running for president. And of course members of congress. Because we've never seen Trump's current taxes, only he and his highly paid armies of accountants, lawyers and fixers might know which big pharmas he and his family are most heavily invested in.

If there was ever a time for transparency in government, it's now. But the Trump admin has shown it's unwilling to be open. Didn't Trump say he was going to have the most transparent admin ever.

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Donny called the Coronavirus a 'hoax' at one of his rallies.

Now his VP heads a task force to counter this 'hoax'.

And the VP asks everyone to pray to counter this 'hoax'.

The only comforting factor is that this 'hoax' of a President and his entourage of 'hoaxes' will be gone by next year!!!!

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Gates has funded some excellent programs, especially healthcare related ones. But he's also a major share holder in several big pharmas. (Google/Yandex Gate big pharma)

How many homeless Americans?

Fox in the hen house? Pence has also received lots from big pharma. As have several Democratic candidates running for president. And of course members of congress. Because we've never seen Trump's current taxes, only he and his highly paid armies of accountants, lawyers and fixers might know which big pharmas he and his family are most heavily invested in.

Yeah, yeah, if Dems want to further make themselves look like fools, keep focusing on these idiotic issues, you guys are only helping Trump in doing so.

If there was ever a time for transparency in government, it's now.

There has never been a President that gives as many interviews to the public as Trump, the guys been more than transparent. If you’re worried about transparency, ask China, that’s where I would start, at ground zero.

But the Trump admin has shown it's unwilling to be open. Didn't Trump say he was going to have the most transparent admin ever.

He has

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Donny called the Coronavirus a 'hoax' at one of his rallies.

No, he did not.

Now his VP heads a task force to counter this 'hoax'.

And the VP asks everyone to pray to counter this 'hoax'.

https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

Debunked.

MIKE BLOOMBERG: “There’s nobody here to figure out what the hell we should be doing. And he’s defunded — he’s defunded Centers for Disease Control, CDC, so we don’t have the organization we need. This is a very serious thing.” — debate Tuesday night.

JOE BIDEN, comparing the Obama-Biden administration with now: “We increased the budget of the CDC. We increased the NIH budget. ... He’s wiped all that out. ... He cut the funding for the entire effort.”

THE FACTS: They’re both wrong to say the agencies have seen their money cut. Bloomberg is repeating the false allegation in a new ad that states the U.S. is unprepared for the virus because of “reckless cuts” to the CDC. Trump’s budgets have proposed cuts to public health, only to be overruled by Congress, where there’s strong bipartisan support for agencies such as the CDC and NIH. Instead, financing has increased.

The only comforting factor is that this 'hoax' of a President and his entourage of 'hoaxes' will be gone by next year!!!!

Yeah and Hillary will be the next President as well. Lol

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There has never been a President that gives as many interviews to the public as Trump

Are you talking about all the interviews he's had with Fox 'news' and other far right media? Would you also include the interview with Alex Jones?

And there NEVER has been a president who's told so many lies.

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DOW sees highest single-day point gain in history..

As I said , it must be of great comfort to those stricken by this virus.

There appears to be an army in the White House trying to come up with vaccine ideas and make them as quickly as possible

Vaccines aren't developed by miracles, it takes doctors, scientists and lots of research .

Now thats too much to expect from the science denying, education hating bunch around Donny.

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Yes he did!!

Nope, not according to the fact checkers of the AP...you guys can have and are entitled to your own opinions, but not entitled to your own facts.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/02/26/us/politics/ap-us-virus-outbreak-fact-check.html

Wow! Even the NYT times debunked it and they hate Trump.

https://fortune.com/2020/02/25/fact-check-debate-charleston-south-carolina/

Fortune As well.

Again, their words, their observations, but liberals on JT seem to know more about these leading liberal sites? ROFL

Trumplings and their Hilary obsession, ROFL.

NO obsession except for the DOJ.

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Nice to see some people cleaning the escalator rails-they need attention in most other countries too!

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Nope

Yes he did and I suggest reading your own link, it actually supports my post.

Again, their words, their observations, but liberals on JT seem to know more about these leading liberal sites? ROFL

For a start reading what these sites say is a good start, totally proves how clueless Donny is. ROFL

NO obsession except for the DOJ.

Hilary is part of the DOJ????? Conservative facts!!!!!

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Yes he did

So he didn’t but to liberals desperately hoping to cling to something to drive their anger they want to make believe every major liberal...again LIBERAL newspaper that called it is lying? They have nothing to gain. Lol! Well, once again liberals demonstrated why the Dems always lose. They can never deal with the truth.

and I suggest reading your own link, it actually supports my post.

I did, that’s why all the print media pretty much wanted to set the record straight, there’s still hope for them and I’m for one glad they debunked it, baby steps...

For a start reading what these sites say is a good start, totally proves how clueless Donny is. ROFL

If he were, he wouldn’t be President and beat 17 Republicans, that awful woman, the crooked cop and his 19 angry Democrat donor lawyers for 2 years and of course that infamous impeachment farce that failed miserably. who’s poll numbers keep rising who’s almost at 50% in an election year, talk about icing on the cake with a cherry on top! Personally, not bad for a clueless guy. ROFL!

NO obsession except for the DOJ.

Hilary is part of the DOJ?????

What? Relax, relax, not conservative just facts, read the news....

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-orders-clinton-sit-194242016.html

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In Iran, a confidant of Iran's supreme leader died from the virus. The Islamic Republic confirmed 1,501 cases and 66 deaths, but many believe the true number is larger. Its reported caseload surged more than 250% in just 24 hours.

Iran is sending out 300, 000 teams to do door to door checks for coronavirus

http://en.farsnews.ir/newstext.aspx?nn=13981212000207

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SK has finally acknowledged that they have failed to prioritize the course of action. No matter how much they put emphasis on identifying and counting infection cases (which is responsible for a recent spike), it is almost meaningless without proper medical care and service capacity available at local hospitals.

Atleast they are testing and catching and including in the count cases without signs, the fear of the medical system being over run should not prevent testing taking place.

How do you expect people to stay home and take precaution when they don't even know whether they are infected or not.

Just because it is mild doesn't negate the fact that it can take a turn for the worst leading to respiratory failure or affect other healthy organs.

Testing will lead to a spike in the numbers as shown in Wuhan, s.korea and italy but then help medical care to be administered.

A stitch in time saves nine.

Well, not testing and hoping that peoples immune system will fight the virus is unacceptable.

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So he didn’t

Yes he did, read your links before posting.

I did,

No you didn't

If he were, he wouldn’t be President and beat 17 Republicans,

ROFL, thats all the right wing nutters have to fall back on, he won elections.

We admit he did, he might not have had the people's majority but sure he did.

Just like the fact that he got impeached!!!!

What? Relax, relax, not conservative just facts, read the news....

Was reading about Cohen, Manafort, Stone Gates.......

Might be reading about donny next year ROFL

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"The incompetence has really exceeded what anyone would expect with the CDC" said Dr. Michale Mina, an epidemiologist at Harvard.

Unfortunately incompetence is the hallmark of this administration.

They should probably trademark it.

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One reason people might be panicking is they don't know who to believe, a consequence of having their 'leader' a man who's told over 15,000 lies since he's been in office. That he gets his admin people to spread his lies further aggravates situations instead of reassuring them.

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One reason people might be panicking is they don't know who to believe,

I personally don’t think so many people are panicking, I know the liberal media wants people to panic. The only thing you can do is just be careful, be safe, wash your hands, wipe things down and limit your contact with people as much as you can. Only thing you can do.

a consequence of having their 'leader' a man who's told over 15,000 lies

Yeah, yeah, yeah, only Trump haters focus on that and nothing else, meanwhile in the real world people are doing whatever they can to minimize the risks.

since he's been in office. That he gets his admin people to spread his lies further aggravates situations instead of reassuring them.

No, that would be CNN and msnbc...speaking of being fired....

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