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Woman beheaded, 2 others killed in French church

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By Eric Gaillard

A knife-wielding attacker shouting "Allahu Akbar" beheaded a woman and killed two other people in a suspected terrorist act at a church in the French city of Nice on Thursday, while a gunman was shot dead by police in a separate incident.

Within hours of the Nice attack, police killed a man who had threatened passersby with a handgun in Montfavet, near the southern French city of Avignon. He was also shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest), according to radio station Europe 1.

In Saudi Arabia on Thursday, state television reported that a Saudi man had been arrested in the city of Jeddah after attacking and injuring a guard at the French consulate.

The French Embassy said the consulate was subject to an"attack by knife which targeted a guard", adding the guard was taken to hospital and his life was not in danger.

Nice's mayor, Christian Estrosi, who described the attack in his city as terrorism, said on Twitter it had happened in or near Notre Dame church and was similar to the beheading of French teacher Samuel Paty in an attack this month in Paris.

Estrosi said the attacker had repeatedly shouted the phrase"Allahu Akbar", even after he had been detained by police.

One of the people killed inside the church was believed to be the church warden, Estrosi said, adding that a woman had tried to escape from inside the church and had fled into a bar opposite the 19th century neo-Gothic building.​ "The suspected knife attacker was shot by police while being detained, he is on his way to hospital, he is alive," Estrosi told reporters.

"Enough is enough," Estrosi said. "It's time now for France to exonerate itself from the laws of peace in order to definitively wipe out Islamo-fascism from our territory."

Reuters journalists at the scene said police armed with automatic weapons had put up a security cordon around the church, which is on Nice's Jean Medecin avenue, the city's main shopping thoroughfare. Ambulances and fire service vehicles were also at the scene.

French President Emmanuel Macron is due to visit Nice, Estrosi said.

In Paris, lawmakers in the National Assembly observed a minute's silence in solidarity with the victims. The mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, said the people of Nice "can count on the support of the city of Paris and of Parisians".

Police said three people were confirmed to have died in the attack and several were injured. The French anti-terrorist prosecutor's department said it had been asked to investigate.

A police source said a woman was decapitated. French far-right politician Marine Le Pen also spoke of a decapitation having occurred in the attack.

A representative of the French Council for the Muslim Faith strongly condemned the attack. "As a sign of mourning and solidarity with the victims and their loved ones, I call on all Muslims in France to cancel all the celebrations of the holiday of Mawlid.".

The holiday is the birthday of the Prophet Mohammad, which is being celebrated Thursday.

Estrosi said the victims had been killed in a "horrible way".

"The methods match, without doubt, those used against the brave teacher in Conflans Sainte Honorine, Samuel Paty," he said, referring to a French teacher beheaded earlier this month in an attack in a suburb of Paris.

The attack comes while France is still reeling from the beheading earlier this month of middle school teacher Paty by a man of Chechen origin.

The attacker had said he wanted to punish Paty for showing pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a civics lesson.

It was not immediately clear if Thursday's attack was connected to the cartoons, which Muslims consider to be blasphemous.

Since Paty's killing, French officials - backed by many ordinary citizens - have re-asserted the right to display the cartoons, and the images have been widely displayed at marches in solidarity with the killed teacher.

That has prompted an outpouring of anger in parts of the Muslim world, with some governments accusing Macron of pursuing an anti-Islam agenda.

In a comment on recent beheadings in France, the Kremlin said on Thursday it was unacceptable to kill people, but also wrong to insult the feelings of religious believers.

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again and again and again and again and again and again and again....

23 ( +30 / -7 )

Time for the French to crack down on Islamic teaching. There needs to be state control and monitoring of what is being taught. If they don’t like the society which gives them such a free and good life, move to a backward medieval country more to their tastes.

32 ( +39 / -7 )

suspected terrorist attack?

what the ....?

political correctness?????

why afraid to write truth?

21 ( +27 / -6 )

Enough is enough. Europe must solve this problem. ASAP.

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What caused this drastic spike of violence from radical Islamists in France lately? All news are about China and USA these days, what is happening in France?

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Enough is enough. Europe must solve this problem. ASAP.

For some European countries like France, its already too late. The demographics and birth rates are like that scene in "The Titanic" where the chief engineer explains how flooding compartments will eventually sink the ship.

I suspect that Germany and the UK are not far behind but might still have a fighting chance to reverse their disastrous immigration policies.

My gut tells me that Europe will eventually end up nothing more than a stark example to North America, Asia etc.. of political correctness becoming suicide.

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People are literally losing their minds over this whole diversity thing. Western countries need to unite and kick these people out.

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I do not understand why some moron beheaded a woman. What the heck is wrong with middle eastern mem.

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Its long overdue for right minded patriots of France and other parts of Europe to take a stand and claim back their countries.... before its too late.

I fear it already is.

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and the images have been widely displayed at marches in solidarity with the killed teacher.

I applaud the French government and people for confronting head on the attacks by Islamic fascists on their culture and free speech traditions. Too bad much of the rest of the Western world has shown little willingness to take on the threat.

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What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down.

12 ( +21 / -9 )

This is where liberal left wing politics lead. I feel terrible for the people of france, this experiment should never have been allowed to get this far. I fear the solution to this will be drastic.

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@TokyoJoe, it's got nothing to do with 'liberal left wing politics', as you claim, but everything to do with mental illness and religious fanaticism. All France has to do is overtly monitor and photograph every single Muslim at every single mosque, and keep doing it, regardless of what Muslims think about that, until (and it will happen) the Muslims themselves out the bad apples.

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This is where liberal left wing politics lead.

I take it you refer to the 80ies when a policy of mass immigration was encouraged by the then socialist government. France welcomed many immigrants without the mean to keep them and provide them with a decent life, hence they grew isolated and...this is what we get. So not so irrelevant, just reaping what was sowed 40 years ago alas..

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What Islam failed to do at the gates of Vienna a few centuries ago, it's dangerously close to achieving now.

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Hmmm... lets see if there is wide-spread condemnation for this from islamic clerics and politicians like Erdogan, or if that only kicks in once the French government reacts to the terrorism.

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Those in the Islamic world don't kill non-Muslim people for not wearing the hajib or other such outfits. They also don't kill non-Muslims for eating pork. The reason being they understand it's not part of non-Muslim people's religion. So why should they kill non-Muslims for drawing images of the prophet Mohammad when they know it's also not part of their religion?

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Seth M

What caused this drastic spike of violence from radical Islamists in France lately? All news are about China and USA these days, what is happening in France?

It is only a "drastic spike" because the media does not report about the constant islamist attacks happening regularly. If you read blogs which chronicle this sort of thing, you would know it is only the latest in a constant string of attacks. Churches, graveyards, and Jewish schools are attacked constantly.

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France, similar to the UK and Germany, don’t have enough security service resources to monitor the extraordinary number of potential jihadis in their countries. I think the UK is monitoring about 10% of the number the security services say should be under watch.

Countries stupid enough to follow the immigration policies of the likes of France would be well advised to factor in a huge expansion in security in their budgets.

You could of course hope to cut down on the beheadings, truck attacks, machine gun attacks and bombings by pandering to the intolerant by throwing away principles which make your country worth living in, but that could eventually turn your country into the places the jihadis left in the first place.

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I am sorry for my previous post which seems to have been a bit strong.

I will reprhase this. I believe we should listen to the concerns of the attacker, find out why they felt compelled to commit such an attack and try to ask them politely not to do such a thing again. If they refuse and such an attack is committed a 2nd time then of course retaliatory action would need to be considered.

We should tolerate and consider the opposing points of view which have drive the person to commit this act and reflect carefully on our own culture.

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Tokyo-Engr

I will reprhase this. I believe we should listen to the concerns of the attacker, find out why they felt compelled to commit such an attack and try to ask them politely not to do such a thing again.

Isn´t that what the EU governments have been doing until now? The success is not overwhelming..

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@Zaphod - Yes I believe this may be the current approach taken by the EU and it seems to have shortcomings.

I am toning down my posts to meet the criteria for accepance here.

In short I believe we may agree.

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@OssanAmerica

What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down.

I think you are unfairly imposing our potentially racist values upon these poor Muslim leaders and also upon this attacker. We should reflect upon the reasons why the attacker decided to behead an innocent woman as this may be our fault. That said, before passing judgment we better investigate our own values and check our priveleges at the gate.

This knife-wielding attacker shouting "Allahu Akbar" (as stated in the article) may have valid grievances which if would have been addressed in the proper amount of time could have prevented this attack.

After all should we not consider that our racist and xenophobic liberal western values may have contributed to this attack?

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What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down.

That isn't true but some of you are not listening. The head cleric of Egypt's Sunni Islamic Institute condemned the killing in a speech given Rome's Capital Square earlier this week. French Imam Drancy Hassen Chalghoumi attended the beheaded teachers funeral and called him a "martyr for free speech". Among the words he spoke:

"The teacher is a martyr for freedom of expression, and a wise man who has taught tolerance, civilisation and respect for others,"

"We need to end the victimisation discourse. We all have rights in France, like everyone else. Parents should tell their children about the good that exists in this republic,"

There are others in the Muslim world who speak out against this violent insanity. Many others. Their words are not heard by westerners who are disposed towards their own hatreds and are often drown out by calls for revenge among Muslims. But do not say Muslim leaders do not speak out denouncing this violence. They do. Nobody on either side is listening to them tragically.

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A major part of France's problem that I see is that the French don't really accept the Muslims in their midst, often limit their economic opportunities and attempt to restrict the free practice of their religion. Poor people with limited opportunities who feel discriminated against are going to be unhappy with their lot in life and rebel. One of the good things about the US is that Muslims who come there can find work, often own businesses and their religion is not suppressed as in France where some Islamic garb is banned. The US is a nation of immigrants and does a better job of integrating immigrants into the national life. People with jobs and the perception of a future for them and their kids don't resort to such violence. Too busy, they have more important things to do. It is desperate people who resort to what we see happening in France.

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Rest in Peace to the innocent victims. Only barbarians would do this.

It is too late for France and UK now, I am sorry but its true. But at the very least they can step up surveillance on Islamists, gather solid evidence, round them up and imprison them before they commit these atrocities. Locking islamists after these atrocities is pointless and too late.

After all should we not consider that our racist and xenophobic liberal western values may have contributed to this attack?

Wrong. Islamists should consider why they are so xenophobic and always full of hate, and continue following such barbaric teachings. They absolutely despise The West and all Western people, yet wish to live there. Why?

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What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down.

You might also be surprised that the brother of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Gamal al-Banna was his exact opposite, a liberal writer and trade unionist who opposed Sharia and advocated total separation of religion and government, women's rights and was opposed to discrimination against other religions. He made frequent TV appearances but eventually fell out with the current military regime in Egypt for his criticisms of their repression. He died in 2013.

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RIP the poor woman who lost her life due to stupidity and ego contest of the religious fanatics and a political animal.

French President turned a lone wolf attack by a teen into battle of religions, he had no connection to any known terrorist organization and there was no proof that it was a coordinated effort by a religious cult, yet President Macron and French authorities decided to use this opportunity to suppress a minority even further, isn’t this similar to what Jews faced in Europe?

Politicians usually are very good at defusing the situation but somehow he decided to escalate it. I hope that the sense will prevail on both side and Muslim clerics and figures of authority will speak up because in the battles of rich and powerful only the poor lose

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Too busy, they have more important things to do. It is desperate people who resort to what we see happening in France.

Absolutely. That desperation has led to over 37000 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam in over 70 countries since 9/11.

If anything, we need to seek appeasement even more...

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French President turned a lone wolf attack by a teen into battle of religions,

so many lone wolves....

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but also wrong to insult the feelings of religious believers

Even when their very beliefs insult everyone who is not a follower?

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engr/attilla I appreciate and support what you are doing, though maybe, just maybe not what you say. you are being much too xenophobic and western liberal in your thinking, and you are in danger of cultural appropriation in mentioning Islam.

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I fully understand your response and I am understanding from what you write the beheading would be considered a valid response to this issue. After all this is a normal response which all other religions engage in as well.

That is not what I said. What I said is when one group of people elevate themselves over others and oppress that group the group that is oppressed will probably in time grow tired of the oppression and rebel. And do not assume that just because you have an elected government that no group is discriminated against and oppressed. To use the words of Thomas Jefferson in a letter to his friend James Madison:

"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government."

All misspellings are the work of Thomas Jefferson btw.

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What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down

@OssanAmerica

Are you illiterate or being intentionally obtuse? It says this in the article: “A representative of the French Council for the Muslim Faith strongly condemned the attack. "As a sign of mourning and solidarity with the victims and their loved ones, I call on all Muslims in France to cancel all the celebrations of the holiday of Mawlid.".

If one isn’t enough, here is a whole list: https://ing.org/global-condemnations-of-isis-isil/

That is the first result when you Google “list of Muslim leaders who have condemned terror attacks”.

It is the 21st century. You have the internet. You have ZERO excuse for being this ignorant by accident.

And this ‘why aren’t moderate Muslims condemning these attacks’ makes no sense in the face of it, because moderate Muslims aren’t the ones committing these heinous acts.

Go ahead, condemn this barbarity. It deserves the strongest condemnation possible. But don’t plug your ears and then wonder why you don’t hear Muslims speaking up.

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Personally, I dont care... about a persons religion, but I currently can hold that opinion here - and I neither care about a persons Color of their Skin... Were things to change like these Radicalized Religious leaders of the Muslim World want, then I would have no choice other than to obey to their whim!

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The Problem with Western Religions is that they have become too weak compared to Muslim ones. 

I'd say the bigger problem is that they still exist. If it's OK for one person to believe they will go to heaven if they don't eat meat on Fridays, it's not a great jump to think of other weird things that will lead us to heaven.

Yet I wonder why so many Muslim men find themselves willing to commit such acts. There seems a great detachment for many.

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Jimizo

France, similar to the UK and Germany, don’t have enough security service resources to monitor the extraordinary number of potential jihadis in their countries

Of course not, because it is a numbers question. With the size these populations have reached, it is impossible to monitor them. And getting more impossible by the day.

It is much more practical for the politicians to submit under islamic law and make sure the native population does not "offend" the muslims. Unfortunately, this gradual islamization is not fast enough for the radicals, so we have things like these beheadings.

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"Enough is enough," Estrosi said. "It's time now for France to exonerate itself from the laws of peace in order to definitively wipe out Islamo-fascism from our territory."

If a muslim chooses not to live within the rules of decent society, then these muslims should be escorted out of France, and ordered not to return under the promise of a long term incarceration. Muslims who chose to behead others simply because their muslim feelings were hurt, should begiven the same treatment.

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Tokyo-Engr - I think you are unfairly imposing our potentially racist values upon these poor Muslim leaders and also upon this attacker. We should reflect upon the reasons why the attacker decided to behead an innocent woman as this may be our fault. 

"Our potentially racist values"? "Our"? You are free to apologize for your transgressions. It may be your fault, especially if you think it's your fault. Behave yourself in the future.

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Religion and politics differ in no way whatsoever. Both are 'faith-based' activities supported in this day by wholly inadequate systems of education which teach almost entirely historical lies, are designed to train 'workers' to accept and endure lifetime Corporate slave lifestyles, to look askance at 'thinking', and to be proud of their own ignorance and to depend on their 'Leaders' to think for them. Islam is ~700 years younger than Christianity and, if we look at 700 years ago, we see that Christianity differed little from present day Islam in its behaviors and practices. Look up Giordano Bruno if you doubt this and ask yourself if you would prefer beheading to being burned alive tied to a stake in the middle of Rome. And these excesses we see are really little different from the horrors we rain down upon the Mideast every day except that the body count of dead Islamics killed in their homes along with their children far exceeds any numbers we see dying at the hands of religious/political crazies outside of the Mideast, and we consider ourselves sane. Both Human religion and Human politics are the worst sorts of pernicious psychoses easily controlled by psychopaths. They are what is driving the Human genepool to extinction. If you would study G-d, you must study the Creation, physical reality. It is the only TRUTH we have and it has very bad news for any organism as wildly destructive of itself and its support system as Humans have become. 'US' versus 'THEM' as a primary species specific behavior is a long, slow, fatal ride into ultimate oblivium. The Universe will not miss us.

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