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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Ukraine says it has taken more ground and prisoners during its advance into Russia border region
By ILLIA NOVIKOV and EMMA BURROWS KYIV, Ukraine©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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PTownsend
Who knows whether the above is true. But many people living in Russia have known for years their government has lied to them and used lies to keep the intellectually vulnerable confused, thereby more easily controlled. By now many Russians must be aware that their Putin and his goons are struggling to keep them safe, many might have heard that some of their their fellow citizens were killed at a concert, some killed while in religious services, and some might have heard now that a foreign army has been able to enter the Motherland. Putin maybe nasty, but he's shown he cannot keep Russians safe, so he must not be as savvy and strong as his fanboys claim. Another cult of personality showing its failures to serve those not part of the regime.
falseflagsteve
Mr Townsend
Both nations are run by dishonest bounders and their oligarch chums.Misinformation is rife as ever so we don’t know at present how Russia will react but it could be devastating as Putin needs to keep up his tough guy image you see.
An arrest warrant has been issued by Germany for a Ukrainian national for blowing up the Nord Stream Pipeline, everyone remember that, it’s the one Putin blew allegedly.
Strangerland
Putin has all the egg in Russia on his face. How do you not watch the border of the country you’re invading? He left the country wide open for the Ukrainians to attach. The Russian people should demand answers.
Although they’re not allowed on YouTube or signal anymore, the kremlin is creating the great red firewall censoring much of the internet in the country. So maybe the people don’t even know Russia got itself invaded as part of the 72-hour special invasion of Ukraine.
Underworld
This is really embarrassing for Putin and will get worse unless he stops the advance quickly. He's going to need to send more troops the front line in Ukraine’s Donetsk region.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Good to see that black eye of Putin's growing.
stormcrow
Putin is like . . . "I am outraged! How dare they invade MY country!"
Putin could file a complaint with the United Nations, but they probably wouldn't bother listening.
falseflagsteve
Taiwan
What doe think bout the news of the arrest warrant for the terrorist attack on the pipeline, three other Ukrainians wanted by Germans too.
ok1517
Well, a couple of weeks only and Ukraine made great progress liberating those areas.
Not like Putain's 3 year aggression (hold it, wasn't it supposed to be a 3-day-one?)!
At least 1.000 sqkm so far and if for nothing else, it will be a nice bargaining chip.
By the way, did people see pictures of the liberated areas?
No destroyed buildings, no Mariupol or Bucha, and people welcoming the Ukrainian forces.
What a difference!
Ukraine prevails!
TaiwanIsNotChina
Ukraine was on its way out from the dystopian Russian media landscape before they got criminally assaulted. Never had a chance to do better.
Internet commentators are not official accusations. I'm not aware of any official accusation of Russia for those things. Assault a country and you should expect many different patriotic elements to take matters into their own hands.
Haaa Nemui
Ukraine’s response to Russia’s invasion took Putin by surprise. He’d been told by his guys in Ukraine that the people would welcome the Russians crossing the border. He never expected it to last 2.5 years let alone 72 hours.
Ukraine crossing into Russia has done it again. How long will it take Putin to stop this? How much more of Russia is he willing to lose?
Banthu
The Russians are more than happy about Ukraine sending as many forces as possible into the Kursk pocket.
Zelensky has two goals:
Terrorize local civilians
Seize the Kursk nuclear plant as a bargaining chipHe partially achieved 1 but the Russians have since evacuated women and children.
No.2 has been a total failure for Zelensky.
Zelensky only has two options remaining.
Continue the desperate Hail Mary push towards the plant.
Suffer defeat and retreat in total humiliation once Russian units arrive to fight them.A tactical nuke is a possibility too, Russia has conducted 715 nuclear explosions on its own soil, another one is no big deal.
falseflagsteve
Taiwan
The attacks were in international waters near Denmark and Sweden. Zelensky blamed Putin for these attacks which were in fact likely authorised and done by his associates. The arrest warrant being from Germany should be a clue about this.
John
Golly, it almost as if the mighty Russian “Army” just flat-out sucks…..
Drunken goobers using crap munitions lead by corrupt morons.
But in the words of the great Cancun Cruz, at least they’re not woke, lol.
Banthu
The Western media assured the public that Russia had blown up it's own pipeline.
They lied then and they're lying now.
Haaa Nemui
No they didn’t. Find me an article that directly points the finger at Russia.
No they aren’t.
Underworld
Banthu
“Russian authorities will likely remain extremely averse to pulling Russian military units engaged in combat from (Donetsk) and will likely continue deploying limited numbers of irregular forces to Kursk … due to concerns about further slowing the tempo of Russian operations in these higher priority directions,”
Putin isn't. And it isn't a "pocket".
You have no idea what Zelensky's reasons are, But I would highly doubt that he would want to seize the Kursk nuclear plant.
It would be if he want to seize the Kursk nuclear plant, but he doesn't and his troops are nowhere near it.
Zelensky has many options.
He isn't even trying to move towards the plant.
And how does that happen? The Russian units have been totally ineffective so far.
Yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen.
John
Lil vladie can’t protect his own territory from a brigade-size invasion.
Opps, that’s not going to help his “tough Dorf” persona…
Strangerland
Yes, please drop nukes on Russia.
PTownsend
Why keep making that claim? Has someone not read about the damages caused by nukes? Or do some actually think any use of nukes could ever be justified? It must be difficult for anti-west extremists to understand the consequences of using nukes of any kind, but then extremists like that have never been known for their reasoning skills, I do not recall them ever called ''reasonable. See Fox attorney defense of FOX extremist Tucker Carlson for his use of 'reasonable'.
Strangerland
Let the Russians drop nukes on Russia.
The UA should invade Moscow so Russia can drop nukes on Moscow as well.
njca4
Opening a new front in the north to take pressure off of the troops in the East was a good move.
Who was the person on here saying it was a military blunder and compared Zalenski to Hitler ?
Was it the same person now deflecting with posts about Nord stream ?
falseflagsteve
Njca4
It was me and I still stand by my previous comments as everyone will see over the next few days and weeks
This is a distraction for the daily losses south of there by Ukraine. There is no release of pressure from what’s happening there for Ukraine, troops and equipment are being deployed from inside Russia to deal with it.
Nord Stream is important when you see the chaos it caused in the West, an act of terrorism which may end with an international arrest warrant for Hugh ups in Ukraine.
Banthu
Due to prevailing winds, the fallout would be borne by NATO countries.
The only casualties from the blast itself would be the people in the pocket who have ignored the Russian Emergences Ministry order to evacuate.
Pro Russian sources are increasing their calls for a simple nuke to be used to spare Russian soldier lives.
The added benefit would be a clear signal that Russia doesn't approve of provocations and terrorism against Russian civilians.
Haaa Nemui
Only Russian civilians though.
bo
Ukraine to topple Putin . Years ago both countries were poor and the people had very little .Fast forward and the citizens have it all (well quite a lot of them ) .Putin has ruined everything his people worked so hard for ,and there will be no comeback ,of course the oil is always going to be wanted in Europe .Russia needs a new leader ASAP then normality can resume .
fallaffel
It's clear now that both sides need to return their troops to their own country. Neither can protect their territory anymore. Then the negotiations over damages can begin.
Antiquesaving
Falseflage wrote
Your reply (Taiwan)
Did you miss the USA government including Biden blaming Russia?
Regardless what you may think.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-issues-arrest-warrant-ukrainian-diver-nord-stream-probe-media-report-2024-08-14/
Misinformation by all sides has been a hallmark of this war.
I will wait to see the actual results once both Kyiv and Moscow can no longer push propaganda and where things end up on the battlefield.
We had Bakhmut, Avdiivka and the 2023 summer offensive all of which Ukraine made claims only for everything to be smoke and mirrors, with no results or clear failure.
Russia has done the same with its original invasion claims followed by massive losses.
So the rah rah rah Ukraine may be a little premature.
I have learned one simple rule, whatever Russia or Ukraine official press releases say is probably not factual and only 10% to max 50% is true.
ArtistAtLarge
Ukraine has now crossed a second, different region.
njca4
This is a distraction, but it's a distraction for Russia.
Putin now has to add cross-border attacks into the equation when considering troop deployment (something Russia didn't need to think about just 1 week ago).
Mr Kipling
Judging by the JT comment section that has been a great success. Meanwhile back to reality. The daily grind and destruction of Ukraine's defences in the Donbas continues. The Kursk offensive is a PR stunt (a very good one) but do you really believe they are going to be able to build fortifications and logistics to hold the territory?
Eastmann
Mr.Kipling
according to published narratives here somoen may feel that heroi are in Khimki already and having nice bbq outside and tomorrow will march towards Red Square....
reality is more grim as Ukraine have defaulted.there are no advances in other parts of fronts except this in Kursk.and yes in Donbass heroi not doing so well too.
action-reaction.
Kiev junta have just made their position for next peace negotiation more difficult.Russia will reorganize forces and will drive heroi out of Kursk-its just matter of time.
remaining question is what Kiev could gain by this desperate attack?some publicity at Japan Today?
going get my coffee now...
njca4
I don't believe they can, no.
They'll have to withdraw at some point, but this is a win for the reason I wrote above.
Haaa Nemui
Said at the beginning I think Russia will stop it quickly, so I’m a little surprised how long it’s gone on ahead. That said, it’s a thoroughly deserved black eye for Putin.
lincolnman
Our pro-Putin denizens are continuing their daily meltdown as Ukraine forges more successes turning the tables on Russia and their hero...
It's now Day #903 and Putin isn't any closer to defeating Ukraine than he was on Day #10 - and how many thousands of Russian soldiers are dead because of this?
After boasting that only HE can protect the Russian people, he allowed ISIS to launch a major terror attack in Moscow that killed 145 and injured 500. Now Ukraine has invaded and occupied over 1K kilometers of Russia.
The smartest thing he could do for his country and the Russian people is to pull every Russian out of Ukraine and Crimea and apologize for the invasion - but we know that will never happen...
So more Russians will die - needlessly....
Wick's pencil
How many thousands of Ukrainian and western soldiers have been sacrificed for Zelensky's latest desperate incursion?
John
Not that many. The Russians keep surrendering to them, lol.
Gene Hennigh
Wick's pencil: By the same token, how many Russian soldiers have been sacrificed for Mr. Putin's incursion? You can't have one without the other.
Cards fan
These fascists don't care. They love fascism, so they love Putin. It's disgusting.
Sanjinosebleed
Meanwhile the weapons companies make billions...
JJE
Yet another snow job that sanitizes and amplifies the Kyiv-regime's talking points.
The goal of seizing the KNPP in a blitzkrieg failed miserably and now this pocket is ending in bloody failure.
And someone should have told them this is how forays into Russia always end. Ask that corporal or the guy who ended up on that island.
Photo time:
Shoutout to the main photo for the Hyacinth in action, and in 10 too one can see the shell thundering out downrange.
Photo 7 we can see the tactical symbol clearly of AFU in the Sumy/Kursk pocket - a triangle, this time on their US-donated M-1126 Stryker (of which the RFAF obtained their first captured, intact example yesterday).
Photo 9 is the Fullback with glide kit bombs - this is important - there is every type under the sun and Russia has increased production of aerial bombs some fifty plus fold. Important to note these - the FAB-500 in this case - are usually dropped four at a time for enhanced pattern-effect.
Photo 8 has a hand-me-down armoured car (forget which type because it is irrelevant) but the background is the damaged buildings/structures in the photo from yesterday's article, which is obviously a border crossing area.
Key takeaway is still no foreign journalists manning up and crossing into the pocket in Russia. They are confining themselves to the border as the photos indicate. And for obvious reasons: to do so would be literally playing Russian Roulette.
Antiquesaving
I guess when you can't counter with facts, accusations are in order.
I would suggest you take a look at the map use DeepStatemap UA the Ukrainian government approved online map of the battlefield.
Bakhmut Avdiivka the now deleted summer offensive gains, the crossing of the 1st and 2nd 2014 lines in Donetsk, etc..
Lugansk is nearly fully under Russian control with Ukraine losing more of the remaining parts daily.
Russia is advancing steadily in Donetsk and yes slowly for the most basic reasons, they are not interested in PR but in holding the territory and to do that they capture and consolidate control before moving on.
This is why Ukraine cannot take any of it back.
As in the article, Ukraine moved in fast in Kursk but has had no time to consolidate its control or build defensive positions which means when counter offensives happen as did in the south east region yesterday, Ukraine get clobbered and pushed back.
As for thousands of Russians killed in Kursk, not even close.
Russia is using the same tactics Azerbaijan used against Armenia, Ukraine is advancing with small units, Russia is not using men on the ground but using Drones to do the work of eliminating these units, sending troops in only after to mop up.
Syrskyi is famous for sacrificing men during the Battle of Bakhmut, he was nicknamed "General 200" (a reference to Cargo 200, a Soviet military code denoting military fatalities).
Obviously he hasn't changed.
fallaffel
Yes, we heard this several days ago. I guess it's a very long ending.
John
Gave the Russians recaptured their own territory?
Yes or no?
Here ends the lesson.
JJE
Here is another example of the triangle tactical symbol and what is really happening:
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Servicemen_of_AFU_80th_and_82nd_air_assault_brigades_taken_prisoner.mp4
rainyday
What do I think? I think things must be going really bad for Russia in Kursk right now given how desperate its supporters are to focus everyone’s attention on the destruction of a dis-used gas pipeline that happened two years ago.
Underworld
JJE
That's because it was never a goal to seize the KNPP.
JJE
Been able to confirm 100% that photo 8 is the Sudzha border crossing, Sumy side. The photo in the article yesterday featured it and it had a transmission antenna off to the left, not visible in this photo.
The damage there was done by the RFAF as they rolled west in 02/2022 - Russian border control area (in reality a vehicle-customs inspection point) is further east and not in view.
wallace
Putin said he would keep his country safe. The Moscow terrorist attack that killed 180. Now foreign troops are on Russian soil for the first time since WW2.
Fighto!
Wasn't Kiev supposed to fall to Russian troops "within 72 hours"...two and a half years ago? The Ukrainian people, in fact, were going to "welcome them with open arms". What happened to the "rapid special military operation"?
Shaky lil' Putin has egg all over his face, the laughing stock of the world. As are ALL of his pathetic supporters.
Keep pumping out those body bags, fascist Russia - you'll need a lot more! Invading Ukraine was like the abject failure in Afghanistan - times ten.
Antiquesaving
Only in the mind of USA Mark Milley the only person to say that and in the repeated comments here by those trying to deflect from the actual situation Ukraine is in.
JJE
Nothing about this makes a whole lot of sense except the part about having no intention to occupy.
Russian missiles can be fired from all sorts of platforms, regions and pretty much hit wherever they want in Ukraine anytime. The idea that Kursk in general, or the Sudzhansky District in particular, are critical to Russian missile launches is patently absurd.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
Wasn't Kiev supposed to fall to Russian troops "within 72 hours"...two and a half years ago?
And in the mind of Putin.
From ISW:
*Captured Russian military plans, for example, revealed that the Kremlin expected Russian forces to capture Kyiv in days, Russian intelligence services reportedly expected the Ukrainian military to collapse, and Kremlin propagandists preemptively published a prewritten article extolling Russia’s “victory” on February 26, 2022.*
Antiquesaving
Let us remember the 2023 summer offensive in Zaporizhia.
How many here were going on about Russia losing and Ukraine will retake Crimea?
Now look at today, despite having a year to prepare defenses and fortifications, Ukraine has lost all the territory is gained in the summer of 2023.
And you expect that in Russian territory with no time to build fortifications, without consolidating the areas it has invaded, and no reserves, Ukraine is actually going to hold on in Kursk?
Ukraine will pull out and how many will have died for what is a PR stunt.
You in the comfort of your homes behind your computer may think it will boost Ukraine moral but that will last only up until the death notices arrive to family members in Ukraine.
Yeah I know the reply, "Russia lost more" but you don't know nor do I but you can believe what you want.
The difference is Putin has an iron fist on the country, Ukraine depends on the western nations and if people get angry, protest and Kyiv isn't careful in handling protest then western aid could end at anytime.
Syrskyi is a butcher Ukraine needed to dump him and bring back Zaluzhnyi but Zelensky won't because he fears him as a potential presidential rival
Some dude
I said this yesterday, and it bears repeating: Ukraine is being very clever here. It's hard to independently verify their claims, but they know that just by making such claims they are putting the cat among the pigeons.
They've used social media, SNS, etc. to gather public support, and are generally far better than the Russians at this kind of communication (also helps that they have the moral high ground in every aspect).
So while anyone with the slightest degree of moral rectitude is hoping for them to destroy the Russian army beyond repair, they're also continuing to win the PR battle.
Anyway, I await the barrage of negative votes from Boris and Olga.
JJE
Zelensky has all but basically confirmed this foray has primarily political and media goals, as opposed to military ones.
Aside from the failure to seize KNPP, which would have been something, this is now a PR exercise.
This is essentially accurate. Moscow has pulled up about extensive rear reserves, which account for 80% plus of the response to the Kursk incursion. The remaining 20% were rotational units mainly pulled from the geographically nearby North Group of Forces 'Sever'. A perfect example here are the boys from the 810th Marine Brigade - veterans of the SVO in too many areas to list - natives of Sevastopol, Crimea, they have now turned up to help brotherly Kursk and are having an impact.
asdfgtr
@JJE/Antiquesaving,
Russian propaganda and fake news stories have attacked Ukraine's right to exist and accused it of being influenced by SATANISM. Russian propaganda also accuses NATO of controlling Ukraine and building up military infrastructure in Ukraine to threaten Russia. This disinformation has been spread by Russian web brigades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
JJE
To elaborate on the 10:53am post, the RFAF armed forces are very much on the move on the main Eastern Front. In fact, they cannot believe their luck; AFU command has stripped out units that would have rotated into thee, instead for this bizarre misadventure in Kursk. The hot potatoes to watch out for is the advance on Pokrovsk and the Toretsk area. There are others and this is all largely lost in the PR blitzkrieg of the Kursk incursion.
Cards fan
Oh please, the Ukrainian don't need or want your feigned ignorance. You've called them Nazis before. You've claimed their government is run by Nazi sympathisers. Just stop with the nonsense already.
rainyday
Let us remember the (insert name of every Russian military operation since February 24, 2022 here).
How many Putin fans were going on about Ukraine losing and its collapse about to happen any day?
Yes, look at today. In the past week they’ve gained more territory than Russia has all year. Sad day for those who cheerlead fascist imperialists like Putin.
Cards fan
feigned concern*
asdfgtr
@Falseflagsteve/Antiquesaving,
Who or what Putin "blew" is irrelevant to this conversation.
Same goes for when people choose to "pull out".
Antiquesaving
Do we file that with the ghost of Kiev, the shovels of Bakhmut, the Avdiivka will never fall, etc...
As I keep repeating, nothing either Kyiv or Moscow officials say can be taken as truth or fact if you are going to accept Kyiv propaganda then you need to accept Moscow propaganda.
I chose to accept neither and accept the facts on the ground and where the lines of "control" are.
Control means the side that has a firm grip and not the incursions that have not been consolidated.
Western news reports every incursion by Ukraine as some advance or victory then ignores when Ukraine gets pushed back.
But western news ignores Moscow claims when it has similar incursions which in its press releases it claims advances that haven't been consolidated and eventually don't hold.
Yes Moscow makes as many claims as Ukraine but few get reported for good reason, they are not consolidated and under actual Russian control.
But anything Kiyv claims is reported as fact even when it is obvious they don't have control and get pushed back or pushed out (see Bakhmut, Avdiivka and Zaporizhia).
JJE
Even the NYT published an article two days ago titled "Putin has victory with his grasp". It's behind a paywall but it's there.
Interesting read.
Some dude
Even the NYT published an article two days ago titled "Putin has victory with his grasp". It's behind a paywall but it's there.
I don't read the US media, but the general impression that I get is that the New York Times is absolutely gagging for a second Trump term, so a headline like that tracks: if you're going to throw your support behind a wannabe dictator, it makes sense that you'd do the same for a real one.
Wonder what kind of dirt the Russians have on the NYT editorial board? Must be pretty juicy.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
It's not Kyiv propaganda. It's directly from Russia. Captured Russian military plans. And the accidentally published "victory report" from Russia's propaganda department on Feb 26, 2022:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
Cards fan
You didn't read it.
1) It's an op-ed, not an article.
2) This op-ed is imploring the west to do more, not less to allow Ukraine to fight off Russia.
Strangerland
Russian people deserve answers from the kremlin on why they are threatening to drop nukes on Russia as part of the so-called 72-hour special invasion of Ukraine.
Antiquesaving
And ignore that Russia hold more territory in Ukraine than last year and still gaining more with full control/consolidation.
And again the accusations because some here use facts that you don't like.
Do I call you any names of make accusations that you are supporting USA arms industry or anything else?
No!
I point out the facts and you have nothing to counter so you name call and accuse people.
The sign of someone that has nothing to actually say.
Again going in and holding (consolidation) are two different things, even the western analysts are saying/pointing this out very clearly.
Has Ukraine consolidated is gains? No,
Has it had time to build fortifications? No.
You and others keep pointing out 2022 and how Ukraine was able to push back Russia.
Yes it did. Why and how?
Because Russia over extended took too much territory and didn't have time to dig in, build fortifications, defenses, etc... a mistake it is not making anymore by advancing slowly making sure it has a firm control, building fortifications, and only then advancing again.
But don't believe me, go look at other western sources and check the maps deepstatemap has fortifications (some not all) marked out, if not look at weeb union he also has both sides fortifications mapped out.
If you go back you see as the days pass Russia adding fortifications in captured territories usual around the same time as the next advance starts.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
Big difference, Ukraine isn't intending to stay.
PTownsend
Care to list some of those sources? If they actually call for nukes they must be insane, anyone that wants nukes used is probably insane. And wouldn't more Russian lives be saved by Putin calling them back into Russian territory, by the way that territory is not lands that Putin and his supporters might believe belong to them and they covet.
JJE
Kursk incursion completely ignores the fact Ukrainian territory got smaller this week, last week, the week before that and all the preceding weeks. This trend has not reversed and is likely to gather steam.
Wars are not won by PR victories pitched towards the west.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Must be tough living in Russia where your government wants to nuke you.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Talk is cheep: produce the facts linking Zelenskyy or it is all just noise.
Antiquesaving
And who claimed it was an actual Russian captured document? Did Russia confirm it was real?
As for the other thing!
It is a propaganda piece and zero mention of any timeline (at least as far as auto translate shows I don't read Russian).
It says nothing but B. about Ukraine being returned to greater Russia blah blah blah, the usual nonsense.
But your claims it says anything about a 72 hours, a few days etc...are just not there.
Again as for the "captured plans" remember again the ghost of Kiev, etc... as much as the Kremlin can put out false propaganda, Kyiv has been just as good at doing the same!
Antiquesaving
Then you agree it is a PR stunt that is costing Ukrainian soldiers lives.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I believe you are ignoring the lands recently acquired by Ukraine.
They are if a large part of your weapons come from them.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
It's not Kyiv propaganda. It's directly from Russia. Captured Russian military plans. And the accidentally published "victory report" from Russia's propaganda department on Feb 26, 2022:
I would doubt that Russia would confirm them, even if they are were real. The ISW has proved to be a reliable source of information. You often say that you just report the facts, but when they don't fit with you narrative, you don't accept them.
It was published on 26th February 2022. It was quickly taken down, because Russia hadn't taken Ukraine as they expected. Obviously they had expected to by then.
The 72 hours were from the captured plans.
You can choose not to believe, but they aren't the only pieces of evidence. It's widely established that Putin expected Kyiv in 72 hours and Ukraine soon after.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
Big difference, Ukraine isn't intending to stay
No. It's not a PR stunt.
JJE
Even the article asserts on many fronts that Ukraine will not 'occupy' these lands long term. Any rational analyst knows this will never happen. When you look at a map of the pocket, you actually need magnifying glass or a zoom-in function because it is literally a flyspeck on the map of Russia confined to the western border.
Read the article about the ISW assessment.
Units are largely not from other frontline areas. Granted some rotational units from the Kharkiv-North (Sever) group and their incursion, which is largely positional now but they were the closest.
Nor has it stopped advances on the Eastern Front - the opposite has happened - it is gathering steam.
Antiquesaving
Let me point out a few things western analysts have already.
Not only will Ukraine be pulling out and have lost many men for what you admit is a PR stunt but by sending its reserves to do this stunt in Kursk, Ukraine deprived the defenders in Donetsk of much needed reinforcements leading to more territory and more men being lost there.
So in the end Ukraine has a PR victory but gains no territory and instead loses more territory and men than had it sent its reserves to Donetsk to halt the Russian advance.
By your own words you admit Ukraine isn't going to keep thes gains in Kursk.
And by the facts on the ground in Donetsk and Luhansk Ukraine has lost more territory and the losses have accelerated since the Kursk offensive started because no reinforcements are available for the Ukrainian defenders.
Does this actually make sense to you?
JJE
If it is not a PR stunt, then what is it?
What is the military objective of this incursion?
burgers and beers
' Ukraine also claimed that overnight Tuesday into Wednesday, it conducted its biggest attack on Russian military airfields since the start of the Kremlin's full-scale invasion in February 2022.A Ukrainian security official told The Associated Press that the aim was to sap Russia’s air power advantage. '
Did this biggest attack on Russian airfields involving hundreds of drones/ missiles result in the loss of one SU34 bomber as the articke says? Is this accurate?
' the troops destroyed a Russian Su-34 jet used to launch devastating glide bombs at Ukrainian front-line positions and cities, Ukraine's General Staff said.'