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Abortion pills to become next battleground in U.S. reproductive fight

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Seeing the way some people were celebrating the supreme court ruling as if it was a football result was sickening.

What exactly does a ban on abortion achieve personally to any of these people.

Nothing.

Just about control.

Once the child is born he's on his or her own. Needs to survive in good old free America.

Do you realize how pathetic you are.

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Well repealing the right of a woman to make her own adult decision about her own body is for Christians of some sort acceptable. We’re born with free will aren’t we? Right or wrong that’s what God intended the gift of free will. Now the LAW has taken free will away. God must be getting angry.

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But their use in anti-abortion states remains a legal grey area and will likely become a front line in future court battles over reproductive rights.

A new rite of passage for American youth could be a road trip to those Blue States with legal cannabis shops and abortion pills.

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What a "godforsaken" country. The Republicans and religious fanatics want to control everyone else, and the Democrats are all talk but no action. They had 50 years to sort this out and did nothing. Only two years ago, they were talking about adding more supreme court justices - and now, not a single word from H̶i̶l̶l̶a̶r̶y̶ Biden.

Someone was saying that for issues like gun-control, abortion, LGBT equality, healthcare, etc, neither side have any real interest in solving problems because these issues are used to sway voters. Without these, neither side, especially the Democrats, will have anything to attract voters. So, it's like a merry-go-round where nothing ever gets done. But people are always hopeful, because of fancy speeches, year in year out.

America is no longer a progressive country. Many predominantly Catholic countries have surpassed America. Ireland makes America look like one big skid row.

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The very states which are dominated by those who claim they are PRO-LIFE are also dominated by those who are PRO-GUN and PRO-WAR and its the same minds. The one most glaring characteristic of Rabid Christianity is its profoundly mindless HYPOCRISY. These are minds that can hold TWO absolutely contradictory emotionally charged views simultaneously and see no conflict, a trait we normally see only in the seriously mentally ill and the brain damaged. And these same states have, for the most part, the poorest educational statistics among the states and the largest number of economically challenged people, the most chronic disease, and the least tolerance of anything but a narrow range of values that most of them fail to observe personally while insisting everyone around them MUST. The YAHOOs are running America (not Biden) and that also, historically, means there is a MAJOR economic crash in the near future. America the Pitiful...

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What's a birthing person? Isn't that a woman?

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Instead of worrying about abortion, why not use birth control? Much easier to use, less expensive, and has few side effects! And, MEN can use it too!! It doesn't have to be just women who use protection!!

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That picture is a perfect summary of how messed up priorities in the US are. Also, hypocritical. These so called pro-lifers are against stricter gun control, which are being used by mentally unchecked psychopaths to mow down kids at school. Where is the logic in that? Nowhere because there is no logic.

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Instead of worrying about abortion, why not use birth control?

A rapist, whether it's a stranger or a family member, is not going to think about condoms.

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Newly tightened USPS rules will make it much harder for women to access pills by mail.

This could see migration from coathanger states, or it could see a huge backlash from female voters at the next election.

If I was a woman, I wouldn't want to live, work or study in a state that banned abortion, anymore than in a state that banned dentistry.

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The hypocrite and crooked prolife circus sends the US further and further back to medieval times.

They are the same kind of sick proguns, prowar losers and they dream of turning the US into a christian fundamentalist nationalistic 1800s white utopia..

Where are the human rights, freedom and democracy that they presume hypocritically???..

Third World..

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If I was a woman, I wouldn't want to live, work or study in a state that banned abortion, 

Why not? Do you feel you would need to have an abortion at the same frequency as you would need dentistry?

if you work at a liberal company they fly you out to a friendly state for a couple days.

kinda like a mini vacation to reward you for your carelessness in getting pregnant with a random person you don’t want in your life long term.

cause company prefers employees without kids, easier to control you and cheaper for them.

Win/win.

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I really don't understand the Americans. They seem religious and yet anti abortion. Isn't the religion teaches us it's not right to have babies out of wedlock?

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Pro-abortionists are determined that it remain not only the number one cause of death in the world but in the Unites States as well. How far will they go?

…Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland on Friday warned that states cannot ban abortion pills, authorized by the federal regulator, "based on disagreement with the FDA's expert judgment about its safety and efficacy" since federal law preempts state law.

Apparently, far enough to falsely claim that the side-effects of abortifacient pills are safe, e.g. paralysis, toxic shock syndrome, ectopic pregnancy, stroke, heart attack, hypertension, anemia, varicose veins, etc.

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Hours after the high court shredded 50 years of constitutional protections for abortion rights on Friday,

Thank goodness it won’t go on any further. I think I heard around 60 million babies were murdered in those years; jt said 900,000 plus were killed last year alone. Talk about a holocaust. And the pathetic way these people reduce humans to “globs of cells and muck” just so they can “go to school” or “pursue their dreams” is sickening. Abortion for rape and incest is understandable. But just because you don’t want to be “inconvenienced” is a sickening excuse to kill a baby. Also, the reproductive act is not just giving birth; it starts with the sexual act. It’s messed up that planned parenthood boasts that their main services are birth control and family planning, yet you can even mention to these people about abstinence. No one is denied the act to reproduce or not reproduce. you can reproduce or not reproduce all you want. Just accept a little responsibility that’s all.

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cause company prefers employees without kids, easier to control you and cheaper for them.

Yes corporate entities are predatory and care nothing nothing for their staff.

And they have an inordinate influence on the political and legal process.

Agreed right?

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A new rite of passage for American youth could be a road trip to those Blue States with legal cannabis shops and abortion pills.

wow. Encouraging youth to get high and then commit murder. Exceptional!

They can all get high, have promiscuous sex, and then blow off the consequences and skip on down the abortion factory.

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No, liberal companies are benevolent and kind.

They have virtue signaled that they will fly employees to “safety” in states that allow them to solve their careless weekend random hookup “problem” at company expense.

why don’t these companies just protect their employees from “evil” of taking responsibility for your actions and only operate in abortion friendly states?

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Why not? Do you feel you would need to have an abortion at the same frequency as you would need dentistry?

Good one! Lol!

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No, liberal companies are benevolent and kind.

You believe there are your definition liberal and conservative companies.

How quaint.

Like the anti-abortionists, they care nothing for the fetus or the born, they are a human and they forget about them quickly enough when they enter society.

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With little other means at its disposal, the Biden administration will focus on expanding access to abortion pills for women living in states where the procedure is banned or restricted -- while those states and powerful conservative groups are sure to mount legal challenges to prohibit their use.

Is it access to women, or access to birthers they want?

Regardless, how about focusing on preventing the unwanted births in the first place? There are a multitude of birth control accessible; maybe try not getting pregnant in the first place?

Like, cut down on promiscuity as a means of control a woman (birther) can exercise over her body.

Women want the right to do what they want to do with their body, well, they have to incur the responsibility that goes along with making the wrong choice.

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Regardless, how about focusing on preventing the unwanted births in the first place?

How about focusing on the welfare of the born children instead of feeding billionaire bottom lines?

If you care about the social fabric

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dagonToday  08:03 pm JST

How about focusing on the welfare of the born children instead of feeding billionaire bottom lines?

If you care about the social fabric

There is a vast support system for unborn children in the US, so nothing to worry about there.

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There is a vast support system for unborn children in the US, so nothing to worry about there.

Oh, I see you have never visited the US and cannot bother even to Google.

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The nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court, in a landmark ruling on Friday, made clear their views on abortion, with the conservative majority overturning the Roe v. Wade decision from 1973 and stripping away women’s constitutional protections for abortion.

The vote was 6-3 to uphold Mississippi’s law banning most abortions after 15 weeks, but Chief Justice John Roberts didn’t join his five fellow conservatives in overturning Roe. He wrote that there was no need to overturn the broad precedents to rule in Mississippi’s favour.

https://worldabcnews.com/what-each-conservative-u-s-supreme-court-justice-said-about-abortion-as-nominees/

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dagonToday  08:16 pm JST

There is a vast support system for unborn children in the US, so nothing to worry about there.

Oh, I see you have never visited the US and cannot bother even to Google.

There are federal programs to start. Or in general, jobs

Special Supplemental Nutritional Program for Women, Infants, Children

http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic

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Special Supplemental Nutritional Program for Women, Infants, Children

http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic

*So the US offers nutritional support to children disadvantaged by its capitalist hellscape engineered by the same conservatives who cancelled reproductive rights.

Good

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while those states and powerful conservative groups are sure to mount legal challenges to prohibit their use.

I am not sure this would stand a constitutional challenge....Drugs are a federal jurisdiction...

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Regardless, how about focusing on preventing the unwanted births in the first place? There are a multitude of birth control accessible; maybe try not getting pregnant in the first place?

Fair enough. Why not make it mandatory for men to wear a condom unless they have the express permission, in writing, of the woman not to? Or is it only women's choices you want to control?

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stripping away women’s constitutional protections for abortion.

Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

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Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

Now may be the time to have it included. It has the numbers to pass in a referendum of the people.

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*So the US offers nutritional support to children disadvantaged by its capitalist hellscape engineered by the same conservatives who cancelled reproductive rights.

What's wrong with Capitalism?

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What exactly does a ban on abortion achieve personally to any of these people.

They think they are saving innocent lives.

They are wrong, but whatever. The suffering they bring to someone else who isn't prepared for parenthood is real. Force birth is barbaric.

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So, Mississippi wants to ban abortions after 15 weeks. That is an eminently reasonable position, is it not? The same standard applies through much of the world, especially Europe.

From what I read, abortions are only illegal in 3 states now, and even those states have the usual exceptions for sexual assault and incest etc. Other states will decide how they will. There will be nothing preventing a pregnant person from going to a state with more liberal laws if they want to terminate their pregnancy, nor will anything prevent people from helping them.

By contrast, many states have laws which allow abortion up till far later, which is chilling.

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Pregnant women don't have two sets of DNA (from conception), two sets of chromosomes (also from conception), two hearts, two brains, two pairs of arms and legs, two blood supplies, and roughly half the time, a penis.

This means that unborn babies are separate and distinct human beings.

Down syndrome and spina bifida are unique to human beings. They can be detected in utero -- which means that the unborn babies who have these conditions are human beings. Otherwise, they couldn't possibly have Down syndrome or spina bifida.

Again, this makes unborn babies separate and distinct human beings. It's undeniable science.

And when we kill human beings -- which, as has been incontrovertibly established above, unborn babies are -- it's called homicide.

Thus, abortion is homicide.

Period.

End of story.

The logic and facts are unassailable.

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A cluster of cells certainly isn't a human.

Crucially, the co-ordinated brain activity required for consciousness does not occur until 24-25 weeks of pregnancy

So, we don't have a "human" before that point. Adults who are brain dead are removed from extraordinary life support. My family had to choose this for a family member we loved dearly. Part of the family, the part who wasn't paying for this extraordinary care, wanted him connected forever. Fortunately, his wife and children all choose to remove the care after 8 days, to spare the body, his soul and the family. The doctors provided the facts, not the emotional arguments. In the family, we have 3 medical doctors, all agreed with the doctors providing care.

Quality of life matters, but that doesn't seem to matter at all to absolutist. The world isn't absolute. There are times when the answer isn't so clear, regardless of what the religious right-wing thinks.

But I'm not suggesting that you should have to abort all your pregnancies, just like I don't think you should force anyone else to birth any human (24 weeks into the pregnancy).

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theFu, that is an interesting analogy. However it is a bit flawed. In your example, the person has no chance of recovery. In the case of a fetus, it has a 100% chance of gaining that brain function, if it is left to develop naturally. Would you take your loved one with no brain activity off life support if you knew they would recover within a few weeks?

As for being "pro choice", women already have myriad choices- abstinence, contraception, adoption, and motherhood. Except in extrordinarily rare cases, pregnancy is not a totally unexpected event. So the choice was made when a man and woman choose to have sex. They chose to take a chance on bringing another person into the world. Sex isn't a purely recreational activity.

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Thus, abortion is homicide.

Yet nature does it all the time.

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Brain dead before 24 weeks also works as a description. It is a growth inside a woman and she has every right to have it removed, if it is unwanted

Oh I see. It’s like a tumor then. Remove it like a cancer.

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As for being "pro choice", women already have myriad choices- abstinence, contraception, adoption, and motherhood. Except in extrordinarily rare cases, pregnancy is not a totally unexpected event. So the choice was made when a man and woman choose to have sex. They chose to take a chance on bringing another person into the world. Sex isn't a purely recreational activity.

Yet it's only the woman being forced to deal with the consequences. How about this; any man who gets a woman pregnant, to whom he is not married, must pay that woman one million dollars? If he can't, the state pays it and he goes to jail. Or, as I asked earlier to no reply, mandated condom use for any extra-marital sex?

Or if unwanted pregnancies are the goal, all men must have a vasectomy when they hit puberty, which is reversed when they marry so they can have kids? If we are removing a woman's choice to have a medical procedure we should be able to remove a man's choice not to have one.

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Abortion shouldn't be used as a contraceptive.

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And on que the leftists are calling for violence which their loyal street thugs obliged by already threatening death and or bodily harm, literally burning buildings and storming state capitals.

Not to mention the weeks on-end intentional intimidation tactics by threatening the Supreme Court justices in front of their homes and the white leftists calling Clarence Thomas racist names.

These people are all about destruction.

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Randy JohnsonToday  08:26 am JST

And on que the leftists are calling for violence which their loyal street... (cont. p94)

All very deplorable, assuming it's not just rabid "them or us" hyperbole. I assume you are just as critical of the mob that swarmed the Capitol, and Trump supporters who threatened to camp outside the White House with their guns if he lost in 2016.

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Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

Nor is drinking coffee, for that matter.

If the constitution doesn't outlaw it then surely it's a matter of personal liberty. Not for a bunch of religious fanatics that Trump stuffed into the SC.

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bass4funk

June 26 10:22 pm JST

What's wrong with Capitalism?

Human beings. In particular the "wealth creators" who forget about rewarding employees properly for the fruits of their labour and pay themselves four hundred times more than anyone else while compliant politicians look the other way.

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Or if unwanted pregnancies are the goal, 

Sorry for quoting myself. I meant to say, if avoiding unwanted pregnancies is the goal...

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Basically, in the Supreme Courts' eyes, a zygote, whether or not it was conceived through mutual agreement or not, has more rights than a full-grown woman. The logic is dumbfounding. And now, they want to go after abortion pills.

They can take all of that away, but I promise you, that won't stop women from trying to get an abortion. It just forces them to do it in ways that will be harmful to them and may eventually lead to their deaths. Then again, I'm sure the Supreme Court doesn't really care if more women die, as long as that zygote in them don't.

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It's not about control it's just about making life worse for other people. Misery vampires are thriving. Funny seeing what the people cheering for this decision look like, I doubt 99% of them would ever be in a situation that would lead to an abortion being an option.

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Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

Being allowed to carry semi-automatics isn't mentioned as well. Flintlocks and muskets maybe, but not semi-automatics. Heck, if you want to get nit-picky, then you can even go as far to say that only a "well-regulated militia" are allowed to bear arms; not untrained civilians.

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The Great Regression

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Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

How about the birth control pill?

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Do you comprehend this?

No I don’t because someone can take her to a blue state where abortion is still legal , if she doesn’t already live in one.

by going elsewhere is not a valid answer.

sure it is. It’s legal and what companies are giving to employees as benefits. Why can’t a person in your situation go elsewhere? Abortion is supposed to be super “convenient”?

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