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By JAKE COYLE CANNES, France©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Tommy Jones
Chip Star May 19 07:02 pm JST
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lostrune2
Even Trump wouldn't go as far as the Alabama and Missouri Republicans:
Wolfpack
I don’t have a problem with abortion within the first 12 weeks. But if there are hundreds of thousands of abortions per year and even a small percentage occur in the third trimester that is still thousands of viable babies who if delivered would survive.
I don’t explain it - I acknowledge that to be a reality. That is irrelevant to the abortion debate.
People with disabilities and diseases should be eliminated? This is the same old eugenics argument from the early 19th century. It was immoral then and it is immoral now. Modern science can tells us that a human baby/fetus is viable at around 24 weeks. Terminating them after this time for any ridiculous reason is akin to an execution. I don’t think we can judge the utility of another human life without at least due process for each individual child after a certain time of development. How many more Gosnell’s are there in all of these unregulated abortion assembly lines that Planned Parenthood has out there?
Wolfpack
Pro choice, as it is currently considered, equals pro-death of the healthy innocent children of healthy mothers up to the minute of birth. Thousands are killed in America in the third trimester. Abortion absolutists are so intent on giving no ground on the issue that they will not consider even common sense restrictions well past the point in which medical science can sustain a child born prematurely - at 25 weeks gestation.
Its no surprise that such extreme positions lead to extreme reactions like the recent laws in Alabama and Georgia in the US.
I don’t think it makes sense to outlaw abortion completely no matter what. Nor do I believe it makes sense to dehumanize human life altogether as the Left is doing. The US is far out of the mainstream when it comes to permissive abortion laws.
The uber-wealthy Cannes crowd can abort at will. They have the money and the ability to travel to any place on the planet to have their unwanted fetus/human-life extracted and disposed of. It’s disgusting to see them flaunt their morbid power and privilege.
bass4funk
Yes, I did awhile back.
Yeah, they usually do.
The Pentagon, CNN, msnbc, FNC, Homeland, the White House and most government institutions worldwide don’t think so.
bass4funk
I told you, but for the record, I usually read Stratfor as my main source for info. I trust them over everyone, even FNC.
Chip Star
I don't own a TV, so I have no idea what CNN is pushing. CNN isn't even relevant to the fact that no laws allow for a child that has been born to be killed. That's some hyperpartisan nonsense.
bass4funk
Which was intentionally designed to push it so that it can be challenged, I saw that the minute they announced it what the intentions were.
In cases of rape and incest i do make an exception, but I’m not a law maker, but if I wanted to get under the Pro-choice people’s skin and know the courts are leaning more conservative and I wanted to challenge Woe v. Wade, i would do exactly what Alabama has just done.
bass4funk
Another suggestion. If the child is full term and in that state and the mother doesn’t want it, how a put people that do, there is always another option.
bass4funk
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. CNN and msnbc try every single day and no one is buying it.
Chip Star
No matter how many opinion pieces by right wingers you cite, this ststemrntbwill never be correct.
Black Sabbath
Ok. I see what you mean.
I have a different view: Abortion was always a wedge issue for the Republican party. The rubes believed it. If Roe is overturned, it will be Pyric victory.
bass4funk
I agree.
Or more than likely not, depending on the economy, if it keeps up like this, the Dems don’t have a good chance, if it goes very sour, then could be.
Yup.
Strangerland
I think it could, but the question is which is a higher goal - rights of the people who live in a country, or winning an election? Even if the Republicans lose, they will have achieved their long-term overall goal, overturning Roe vs. Wade. This is the kind of thing that takes a generation, where an election happens every 2/4 years.
So the Republicans may (and hopefully will) lose, but they already won when it comes to abortion.
And I think we need to be very honest about that, so that the women who believe in women's rights but also voted for Trump can see how their decisions can directly affect the lives of American women in a very real and detrimental manner.
Black Sabbath
Stranger
So, you don't think overturning Roe v Wade will spell defeat at the polls?
Strangerland
Unfortunately, I don't think they are. They've likely already won this one. The reason we are seeing these new extremist laws is because they managed to stack the supreme court with justices who are likely to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They played the long game. The Democrats have only added like one justice to the supreme court in the past two decades, the rest have been republican. So once these challenges make their way to the Supreme Court, there is a solid chance they will get through.
The damage has already been done. This was Trump's payment for the support of the extremist evangelicals. That was their cost for overlooking the fact that he as a human being stands against pretty against much everything else they supposedly are against.
The Repubicans aren't as stupid as we'd like to think. They are just playing the long game. They may lose the next election, but they've likely won the abortion war, at least for another generation while the current justices die off.
Black Sabbath
Well, if there is one thing to drive more people to vote Democrat, it's overturning Roe. v Wade.
Republicans are so dumb.
bass4funk
Keep hope alive.
Strangerland
They're extremists.
Extremists are anti-societal, and they should be discounted as such.
Strangerland
Yes, it is good.
Which doesn't address the point that you were very clearly wrong when you made this claim:
And I will now point out that anyone reading your posts in the future should read them with the understanding that you very often make statements which you think are correct, but are actually at complete odds with the reality of the situation, and therefore your posts cannot be taken with any degree of credibility.
But I would defend your right to make statements that show your lack of credibility. You by all means should have the right to make posts that destroy your credibility for as long as you wish to do so.
lostrune2
An wise man once said:
bass4funk
Good.
bass4funk
No, I didn’t say, Stange, but if you think so, ok.
Ok
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/with-their-stance-on-infanticide-bill-do-democrats-show-a-death-wish
PTownsend
Another example of an anti-democracy, anti-Constitution belief consistent with the 'I'd rather be Russian than Democrat' messages extreme partisans push.
Maybe those pro-choice people imagined by partisan extremists. But in reality, not.
This topic obviously makes you very emotional.
bass4funk
Those who oppose it should I migrate to a different country.
Pro-choice are people that are totally fine with ending the life a full term child and make the stupid excuse they have the right as of it would justify murder.
Pro-choice people care more about being intolerant to the people they claim are intolerant and allow emotion to always dictate their thought process. Talk about an oxymoron.
PTownsend
Those cheerleading for wars, battles of any sort, should be the first to fight.
Pro-life is a slogan used by those who favor big brother uber alles. Whoever created the slogan knew how easily influenced their followers are and knew by using so few words their intellectually vulnerable audience would quickly parrot it.
Curious these purportedly pro-life parrots care so little for the lives of anyone outside their particular community.
bass4funk
Yeah, it’s Vox, why not put a Buzzfeed article, I don’t believe that poll for a second, but I do believe this is headed for the SC and we shall see.
Haaa Nemui
Agreed. Also... those who claim to want to protect all children and in the same breath will refuse to take a measles vaccination... it's very interesting.
bass4funk
It will be war, that’s the point. Pro life vs. Pro choice that battle is coming.
PTownsend
Those cheerleading for war should reflect on thoughts like the one above.
bass4funk
Excellent point.
Strangerland
No, that’s wrong.