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Chip Star May 19 07:02 pm JST

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. CNN and msnbc try every single day and no one is buying it.

I don't own a TV, so I have no idea what CNN is pushing. CNN isn't even relevant to the fact that no laws allow for a child that has been born to be killed. That's some hyperpartisan nonsense.

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Even Trump wouldn't go as far as the Alabama and Missouri Republicans:

As most people know, and for those who would like to know, I am strongly Pro-Life, with the three exceptions - Rape, Incest and protecting the Life of the mother - the same position taken by Ronald Reagan.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 19, 2019

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How do you explain 90% of abortions are within the first 12 weeks and also the numbers have been decreasing. 

I don’t have a problem with abortion within the first 12 weeks. But if there are hundreds of thousands of abortions per year and even a small percentage occur in the third trimester that is still thousands of viable babies who if delivered would survive.

How to explain that not not all children are born healthy and some will die within minutes, hours, weeks. 

I don’t explain it - I acknowledge that to be a reality. That is irrelevant to the abortion debate.

Some are born with crippling diseases...

People with disabilities and diseases should be eliminated? This is the same old eugenics argument from the early 19th century. It was immoral then and it is immoral now. Modern science can tells us that a human baby/fetus is viable at around 24 weeks. Terminating them after this time for any ridiculous reason is akin to an execution. I don’t think we can judge the utility of another human life without at least due process for each individual child after a certain time of development. How many more Gosnell’s are there in all of these unregulated abortion assembly lines that Planned Parenthood has out there?

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Pro choice, as it is currently considered, equals pro-death of the healthy innocent children of healthy mothers up to the minute of birth. 

How do you explain 90% of abortions are within the first 12 weeks and also the numbers have been decreasing. How to explain that not not all children are born healthy and some will die within minutes, hours, weeks. Some are born with crippling diseases preventing a normal life or will need a regime of expensive drugs to live.

Abortions should be limited to the first 15-20 weeks.

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Pro choice

Pro choice, as it is currently considered, equals pro-death of the healthy innocent children of healthy mothers up to the minute of birth. Thousands are killed in America in the third trimester. Abortion absolutists are so intent on giving no ground on the issue that they will not consider even common sense restrictions well past the point in which medical science can sustain a child born prematurely - at 25 weeks gestation.

Its no surprise that such extreme positions lead to extreme reactions like the recent laws in Alabama and Georgia in the US.

I don’t think it makes sense to outlaw abortion completely no matter what. Nor do I believe it makes sense to dehumanize human life altogether as the Left is doing. The US is far out of the mainstream when it comes to permissive abortion laws.

The uber-wealthy Cannes crowd can abort at will. They have the money and the ability to travel to any place on the planet to have their unwanted fetus/human-life extracted and disposed of. It’s disgusting to see them flaunt their morbid power and privilege.

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Ok but you didn't tell me

Yes, I did awhile back.

also it's not really a daily media outlet. It seems not all share your opinion.

Yeah, they usually do.

Stratfor Is a Joke

The Pentagon, CNN, msnbc, FNC, Homeland, the White House and most government institutions worldwide don’t think so.

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I told you, but for the record, I usually read Stratfor as my main source for info. I trust them over everyone, even FNC.

Ok but you didn't tell me also it's not really a daily media outlet. It seems not all share your opinion.

Stratfor Is a Joke and So Is Wikileaks for Taking It Seriously

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/stratfor-is-a-joke-and-so-is-wikileaks-for-taking-it-seriously/253681/

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MSN as being fake anyway. Recently, I even asked you what media you do read, but you declined an answer.

I told you, but for the record, I usually read Stratfor as my main source for info. I trust them over everyone, even FNC.

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More than 90 percent of abortions happen within the first trimester, or about the first three months. American abortions rates have decreased. Most women having an abortion also already have children.

Which was intentionally designed to push it so that it can be challenged, I saw that the minute they announced it what the intentions were.

The intentions of the Alabama lawmakers are the same of those of sharia.

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Yeah, keep telling yourself that. CNN and msnbc try every single day and no one is buying it.

I don't own a TV, so I have no idea what CNN is pushing. CNN isn't even relevant to the fact that no laws allow for a child that has been born to be killed. That's some hyperpartisan nonsense.

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I have already suggested that abortions should be limited to 15-20 weeks. Trump supports abortion for rape, incest and if the life of the mother is in danger unlike the sharia abortion law in Alabama.

Which was intentionally designed to push it so that it can be challenged, I saw that the minute they announced it what the intentions were.

You are anti abortion even for rape and incest and regardless of the time term?

In cases of rape and incest i do make an exception, but I’m not a law maker, but if I wanted to get under the Pro-choice people’s skin and know the courts are leaning more conservative and I wanted to challenge Woe v. Wade, i would do exactly what Alabama has just done.

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bass4funk

Another suggestion. If the child is full term and in that state and the mother doesn’t want it, how a put people that do, there is always another option.

I have already suggested that abortions should be limited to 15-20 weeks. Trump supports abortion for rape, incest and if the life of the mother is in danger unlike the sharia abortion law in Alabama.

"how a put people that do, there is always another option."

I don't understand your English here?

You are anti abortion even for rape and incest and regardless of the time term?

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I'm not suggesting any of these type of births should have been aborted but I do feel strongly the mother should have the choice.

Another suggestion. If the child is full term and in that state and the mother doesn’t want it, how a put people that do, there is always another option.

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No matter how many opinion pieces by right wingers you cite, this ststemrntbwill never be correct.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. CNN and msnbc try every single day and no one is buying it.

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Not all babies are born to live a normal life. Some die very quickly. Some are born in a kind of vegetative state and will need permanent support of a hospital for their entire lives and although they can only lie in their cots they can live beyond 20 years. I have personally seen these people on a ward in a hospital in my home city. All of these types of births are very difficult for the mother involved and her family. Mostly, after a while the family don't even visit anymore.

I've just returned home from visiting a local friend with a severely mentally and physically disabled teen. That child is loved and cared for, well beyond any expected limits.

I'm not suggesting any of these type of births should have been aborted but I do feel strongly the mother should have the choice.

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Pro-choice are people that are totally fine with ending the life a full term chil

No matter how many opinion pieces by right wingers you cite, this ststemrntbwill never be correct.

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Don't seem right that people put party politics ahead of such an important issue as the right to choose. It's not about republican or democrat parties, it's about women and whether they are able to have a termination within the time limits set by law, including women who are victims of rape and incest.

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Ok. I see what you mean.

I have a different view: Abortion was always a wedge issue for the Republican party. The rubes believed it. If Roe is overturned, it will be Pyric victory.

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The Repubicans aren't as stupid as we'd like to think. They are just playing the long game.

I agree.

They may lose the next election,

Or more than likely not, depending on the economy, if it keeps up like this, the Dems don’t have a good chance, if it goes very sour, then could be.

but they've likely won the abortion war, at least for another generation while the current justices die off.

Yup.

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So, you don't think overturning Roe v Wade will spell defeat at the polls?

I think it could, but the question is which is a higher goal - rights of the people who live in a country, or winning an election? Even if the Republicans lose, they will have achieved their long-term overall goal, overturning Roe vs. Wade. This is the kind of thing that takes a generation, where an election happens every 2/4 years.

So the Republicans may (and hopefully will) lose, but they already won when it comes to abortion.

And I think we need to be very honest about that, so that the women who believe in women's rights but also voted for Trump can see how their decisions can directly affect the lives of American women in a very real and detrimental manner.

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Stranger

So, you don't think overturning Roe v Wade will spell defeat at the polls?

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Faith based laws are the same as sharia, or Jewish Halakhah.

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Well, if there is one thing to drive more people to vote Democrat, it's overturning Roe. v Wade.

Republicans are so dumb.

Unfortunately, I don't think they are. They've likely already won this one. The reason we are seeing these new extremist laws is because they managed to stack the supreme court with justices who are likely to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They played the long game. The Democrats have only added like one justice to the supreme court in the past two decades, the rest have been republican. So once these challenges make their way to the Supreme Court, there is a solid chance they will get through.

The damage has already been done. This was Trump's payment for the support of the extremist evangelicals. That was their cost for overlooking the fact that he as a human being stands against pretty against much everything else they supposedly are against.

The Repubicans aren't as stupid as we'd like to think. They are just playing the long game. They may lose the next election, but they've likely won the abortion war, at least for another generation while the current justices die off.

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Well, if there is one thing to drive more people to vote Democrat, it's overturning Roe. v Wade.

Republicans are so dumb.

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Yes, it is good.

Keep hope alive.

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For some pro-life supporters contraception is a form of abortion.

They're extremists.

Extremists are anti-societal, and they should be discounted as such.

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For some pro-life supporters contraception is a form of abortion.

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Good.

Yes, it is good.

Which doesn't address the point that you were very clearly wrong when you made this claim:

Pro-choice are people that are totally fine with ending the life a full term child

And I will now point out that anyone reading your posts in the future should read them with the understanding that you very often make statements which you think are correct, but are actually at complete odds with the reality of the situation, and therefore your posts cannot be taken with any degree of credibility.

But I would defend your right to make statements that show your lack of credibility. You by all means should have the right to make posts that destroy your credibility for as long as you wish to do so.

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An wise man once said:

"Abortion is a difficult topic

On the one hand, it kills kids

On the other hand, it gives women a choice"

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And as I have stated, I am not totally fine (or even partially fine) with ending the life of a full-term child

Good.

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Pro-life is usually based upon selective Bible teaching while ignoring many other aspects of it. The Alabama law is also based on faith when the constitution states a separation of state and religion. The Alabama law is just so wrong that it even refuses for cases of rape and incest regardless of how young the victim is. The youngest victim who became pregnant was five years. A child who would be expected to carry the fetus to birth, and then what, take her new born along to school with her. Attend the PTA meeting's at age 10 years or so? In Alabama incest isn't even illegal show the nature of the state laws.

Men never have to carry a fetus nor experience childbirth or even undergo an abortion yet they are denying the right to women to choice what happens with their bodies.

I'm pro-choice but abortion should be limited to 10-15 weeks unless the life of the female becomes endangered.

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I'm pro-choice. So you were very clearly talking about me.

No, I didn’t say, Stange, but if you think so, ok.

Once again, you are contributing to your track record

Ok

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/with-their-stance-on-infanticide-bill-do-democrats-show-a-death-wish

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@bas4 Those who oppose it should I migrate to a different country.

Another example of an anti-democracy, anti-Constitution belief consistent with the 'I'd rather be Russian than Democrat' messages extreme partisans push.

Pro-choice are people that are totally fine with ending the life a full term child

Maybe those pro-choice people imagined by partisan extremists. But in reality, not.

Pro-choice people care more about being intolerant to the people they claim are intolerant and allow emotion to always dictate their thought process.

This topic obviously makes you very emotional.

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Those cheerleading for wars, battles of any sort, should be the first to fight. 

Those who oppose it should I migrate to a different country.

Pro-life is a slogan used by those who favor big brother uber alles. Whoever created the slogan knew how easily influenced their followers are and knew by using so few words their intellectually vulnerable audience would quickly parrot it. 

Pro-choice are people that are totally fine with ending the life a full term child and make the stupid excuse they have the right as of it would justify murder.

Curious these purportedly pro-life parrots care so little for the lives of anyone outside their particular community.

Pro-choice people care more about being intolerant to the people they claim are intolerant and allow emotion to always dictate their thought process. Talk about an oxymoron.

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@bas4 It will be war, that’s the point. Pro life vs. Pro choice that battle is coming.

Those cheerleading for wars, battles of any sort, should be the first to fight.

Pro-life is a slogan used by those who favor big brother uber alles. Whoever created the slogan knew how easily influenced their followers are and knew by using so few words their intellectually vulnerable audience would quickly parrot it.

Curious these purportedly pro-life parrots care so little for the lives of anyone outside their particular community.

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“A previously unreleased poll shows that a majority of Alabamians do not support the kind of extreme abortion ban passed by their state legislature this week, AL.comreports, revealing that Alabama lawmakers seem to be out of step even with their own highly conservative electorate.

Yeah, it’s Vox, why not put a Buzzfeed article, I don’t believe that poll for a second, but I do believe this is headed for the SC and we shall see.

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"A previously unreleased poll shows that a majority of Alabamians do not support the kind of extreme abortion ban passed by their state legislature this week, AL.comreports, revealing that Alabama lawmakers seem to be out of step even with their own highly conservative electorate."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/18/18630562/alabama-abortion-ban-voters-exemption-for-rape-incest

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Those cheerleading for war should reflect on thoughts like the one above.

Agreed. Also... those who claim to want to protect all children and in the same breath will refuse to take a measles vaccination... it's very interesting.

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Those cheerleading for war should reflect on thoughts like the one above.

It will be war, that’s the point. Pro life vs. Pro choice that battle is coming.

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Pro choice

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@burningbush Demonstrating for the "right" to take the life of another.

Those cheerleading for war should reflect on thoughts like the one above.

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Demonstrating for the "right" to take the life of another.

Got it.

Excellent point.

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Demonstrating for the "right" to take the life of another.

No, that’s wrong.

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Demonstrating for the "right" to take the life of another.

Got it.

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