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1/2 of the country thinks he should be charged with a crime, including about 1 in 5 Republicans. And the 1/2 part? That’s moving in one direction - North.

As always: lacking perfect clarity about future events, it cannot be said that a DOJ indictment is a certainty although it looks more likely by the day. One wonders just how much more of a nudge AG Garland really requires…..

But when 1/2 thinks a certain sociopath should be charged, and a further 20% say they don’t know enough about it yet (trying to withhold judgment on people who haven’t been paying attention to an attempted overthrow of the government using a violent insurrection based on a lie, but ok….), that sociopath lacks a “viable path forward.”

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That only 1/2 of Americans think Trump should be charged with a crime is frightening. What is it? Ignorance, stupidity, cult worship, a denial of reality are the onlly reasons I can think of. What's more frightening is that these people have the right to vote.

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What is it? Ignorance, stupidity, cult worship, a denial of reality

All of the above.

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Speaking of crimes, witness tampering anyone?

I would very much like to know how many others besides Ms. Hutchison before she changed lawyers, for whom Trump, Trump PACs or an organization controlled by Trump are paying legal fees.

Because that is dodgy as hell.

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The only way Trump will ever be president again is if Republicans help him overturn the results. They didn't in 2020, but it looks like they're preparing to in 2024.

America seems ripe to become another Russia. Democracy in name only.

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That only 1/2 of Americans think Trump should be charged with a crime is frightening. What is it? Ignorance, stupidity, cult worship, a denial of reality are the onlly reasons I can think of. What's more frightening is that these people have the right to vote.

So half of the country thought that J6 was a horrible event and denounced it and want to move forward you see it in the polls and how the Republicans are just beating the pants off the Democrats almost everywhere and even signing up more people and then you have the other half predominantly liberals wanting revenge and desperately (in vain) wanting the former President to be locked up, more people in their party are losing supporters, voters, holding on to that day and losing in the polls everywhere. The left and people that want to support this…whatever it is, should do that and the rest of America is and will move forward and beyond this to tackle the issues that overwhelmingly hit and hurt the average American like inflation, out of control crime, the open borders, rising gas and food prices.

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“Yeah but the clock is ticking for the Dems, everybody knows it, something about November and people moving to Florida something or other, oh and nobody believes polls like this.”

That should save him a bit of time.

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The left and people that want to support this…whatever it is, should do that and the rest of America is and will move forward and beyond this 

You don’t have to read the whole article this time. Just the headline will suffice.

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So half of the country thought that J6 was a horrible event and denounced it and want to move forward

Ahh yes, let's just move on from when Trump and his supporters tried to prevent the peaceful transition of power. Yes, if I didn't believe in democracy, and the peaceful transition of power, I too would be in favor of "moving on," pretending nothing illegal happened, and not prosecuting those responsible.

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A bit on the low side I'd say....a poll by Politico-Morning Consult had the figures much higher...

Two-thirds of Americans say they think that former President Trump should be prosecuted for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, according to a new poll. A Politico-Morning Consult poll released on Wednesday asked respondents if they believed Trump’s efforts to overturn the last presidential election’s results was a crime and that he should face prosecution. Sixty-six percent of respondents said that they thought it was a crime and should be prosecuted, while 19 percent said it was not a crime and 18 percent said they thought it was a crime but Trump should not be prosecuted.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-thirds-back-prosecuting-trump-124621282.html

At any rate, most Americans unburdened by MAGA-blindness see the truth - that Trump knew he lost, and concocted a scheme to use fake electors and phony certification lists to stage a coup. And that he knew the mob on Jan 6th was armed, and still incited them to riot at the Capitol and threaten to hang Mike Pence. And that his year-long effort to grift his supporters by screaming "rigged" was just another Trump con-job...

And when the texts and emails are shown proving witness tampering, things will get real serious...

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About half 

48% is called “less than half”

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This sham show is cover for major issues happening in the states. No one cares!

As to the nobody cares BS, it seems that rather a lot of people do, in fact, care.

“Major issues” You mean like a violent attempt to overthrow the government and install an unelected sociopath? Cause that seems like kind of a major issue to me....

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As to the nobody cares BS, it seems that rather a lot of people do, in fact, care. 

Not nearly close to the people that don’t. If I were a Democrat I would be alarmed to see people in my party jump ship at this fast pace.

“Major issues” You mean like a violent attempt to overthrow the government and install an unelected sociopath? Cause that seems like kind of a major issue to me....

Yeah, Dems should hold on to that, just 4 more months and then it won’t matter. Again, I think it’s good voters are leaving and waking up about what they see what the Democrat party is all about and that’s nothing.

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1/2 of the country thinks he should be charged with a crime, including about 1 in 5 Republicans. 

Less than 1/2 and 1 in 10 Republicans, not 1 in 5.

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1/2 and that was before we learned that Trump knew the protesters were armed, invited them in, tried to lead an armed mob to the capital, threw a hissy fit when he couldn’t and then did nothing to stop it or protect Congress (to say nothing of the others in the Capital...)

In other words before the smoking gun directly connecting Trump to multiple felonies was widely known, 1/2 already thought he should be charged.

One wonders what the percentage will be next week but it’s very likely to be higher.

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BobFoss: You should read the all article. The poll of 1,053 adults was conducted June 23-27 using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 4 percentage points. PROBABILITY BASE. Yes and the survey was taken before the witness appeared check out the date. Now post appearance of this witness I assume if the survey was today. it will be 90% for trump to be charged.

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What is it? Ignorance, stupidity, cult worship, a denial of reality

I’d add gullibility to that. Trump does have an ability to scam the vulnerable.

It’s worth remembering he was also aided by scammers in the media. A friend of mine sent me a link to Dave Rubin who was scamming the vulnerable by getting their hopes up that the election results were fraudulent and that there was a realistic chance they’d be overturned.

What a disgusting way to earn a living. Playing on the weak.

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Tampering

Imagine thinking witness tampering is when you use your friendship with a potential, but skeptical, witness to cooperate with investigators.

No, this isn't "witness tampering," what you are complaining about now is a witness cooperating with the investigation. Why on earth would someone object to that?

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it is pretty rich Trump supporters talking about Tampering when Trump is paying attorneys fees for sympathetic witnesses until the aren’t sympathetic.

Tampering.

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So half of the country thought that J6 was a horrible event and denounced it and want to move forward

Courts don't just "move forward"

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1/2 and that was before we learned that Trump knew the protesters were armed,

No, that’s from the latest polls. There isn’t a single poll that sees the Dems retaining the House unopposed.

invited them in, tried to lead an armed mob to the capital, threw a hissy fit when he couldn’t and then did nothing to stop it or protect Congress (to say nothing of the others in the Capital...)

As long as the left hold on to this issue (and I hope so for the GOP sakes) it helps the right, carry on.

In other words before the smoking gun directly connecting Trump to multiple felonies was widely known, 1/2 already thought he should be charged.

and the other half do not. 

One wonders what the percentage will be next week but it’s very likely to be higher.

Doubt it, if viewers were peeling off when it started and even more with what we now know is a very questionable witness, we expect even more dropouts

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1 in 5 Republicans think he should be charged according to the poll last week.

What will it be NEXT week?

And I couldn’t help but notice the unsolicited applause for Liz yesterday when she said “You cannot be loyal to the Constitution AND be loyal to Trump.”

She seems to have spoken the unspoken truth.

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Half of Americans? So 166 million people think like this? I am sure that most Americans are more worried about things like inflation, gas prices, crime and family living than something well under 1% of the population are tuning into.

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1/2 and that was before we learned that Trump knew the protesters were armed, 

No, that’s from the latest polls. There isn’t a single poll that sees the Dems retaining the House unopposed.

Once again you are conflating (that means intentionally drawing connections where they don’t exist) 2 separate issues.

1/2 of voters think that Trump should be charged with a crime. This has to do with crimes. Oh, and it’s in the article you might consider reading at some point if you are capable and so inclined.

No poll sees the Democrats retaining the House. Thus is a political matter completely separate. It’s true, but unrelated.

I know that this is difficult for you to process but 2 things can both be true: The Democrats are likely to lose 1 or Bolton houses of Congress in part due to bad luck and in part due to some bad policy choices AND a plurality - soon to be a majority - agree with what is so patently obvious: Trump is guilty of multiple felonies and should be charged as such.

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Half of Americans? So 166 million people think like this?

Yes. According to scientific polling. Weird isn’t it that 1/2 of Americans don’t think that a narcissistic sociopath should get away with multiple felonies, eh?

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Trump, his claims of being a "stable genius" to the contrary, was never able to learn his job as POTUS and how to act "presidential", but this latest report (coming after 18 months of DOJ inaction, no charges, no arrest, not even asked to answer a single question to help with any of the investigations into his multiple alleged crimes that are costing the American taxpayers millions of dollars, during which time Trump, still at large, has been able to continue to successfully sow doubt in the minds of undiscerning folk with his indefatigable campaigning to spread the big lie of a "stolen election"), only confirms the one thing Trump did learn, to wit, the extreme reluctance of America's cozy political establishment to hold the most revered symbol of power accountable for any crimes committed in office. This egregious fact alone has repeatedly massaged the minds of millions to subconsciously believe that their POTUS is innocent to "untouchable" so it's no wonder that many Americans are wiling and able to look the other way, past the mountain of accumulated evidence pointing to their cult leader's guilt. After all the incalculable damage Trump's actions (and inaction) have inflicted on the country and hundreds of thousands of lives lost and ruined (Covid), whatever punishment is meted out to Trump, nobody expects 45 to receive a draconian sentence of 30 years in prison. The concept of earthly "justice" hardly bears scrutiny, it seems, and Trump's notorious analogy of committing a murder on 5th Avenue and getting away with it looks less ludicrous today.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

The money-shot revealing how pathetically desperate Trump supports have gotten:

In other words before the smoking gun directly connecting Trump to multiple felonies was widely known, 1/2 already thought he should be charged.

and the other half do not

So this is what they’re down to. 1/2 DONT want Trump charged. My, THAT is rousing support.

I’m pretty sure that no other political supporters of ANYONE would argue “Only 1/2 want our guy charged. ONLY HALF!”

Thats not the makings of a winning argument.

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As to the nobody cares BS, it seems that rather a lot of people do, in fact, care. 

Not nearly close to the people that don’t. If I were a Democrat I would be alarmed to see people in my party jump ship at this fast pace.

“Major issues” You mean like a violent attempt to overthrow the government and install an unelected sociopath? Cause that seems like kind of a major issue to me....

Yeah, Dems should hold on to that, just 4 more months and then it won’t matter. Again, I think it’s good voters are leaving and waking up about what they see what the Democrat party is all about and that’s nothing.

Anyone else notice that the comments by the pro-Trump folks here are all weak deflections? Nothing addresses the specifics of the testimony or facts. It's all "wait until Nov" or some other off-topic blather... It really shows they are grasping for straws - and subconsciously know Trump is lying and has conned them all along...

Fraudulent electors and fake certification lists?

Eastman admitting his scheme was "illegal"?

Giuliani admitting twice, once under oath, that there was no evidence of fraud?

Trump saying Mike Pence "deserved" to be hanged?

Cipollone saying “we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable”....

Silence on those....

That's very telling....

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Trump keeps bringing up The Big Lie. Obviously he's not ready to move on yet. People who are telling him to are establishment Republicans.

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So now we are seeing “She’s the coffee girl!” (Which is pretty rich coming from JR. as he isn’t qualified by education or experience to work in a Chucky Cheese much less even visit the White House)

”I hardly knew her! She’s Crazy!” Dude, she was literally RIGHT down the hall and sat in on almost every meeting. And “crazy”? Seriously, Mr. tableware discus thrower? He of the “He was completely unhinged. He listened to Cats to calm himself”? (Side note: CATS???? And you’re calling HER crazy?)

This reeks of desperation.

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1 in 5 Republicans think he should be charged according to the poll last week. 

Yes and the majority of those are the ones not seeking re-election or are RINOs that know they couldn’t even get elected to Starbucks management.

What will it be NEXT week?

More ratings disappointment

And I couldn’t help but notice the unsolicited applause for Liz yesterday when she said “You cannot be loyal to the Constitution AND be loyal to Trump.” 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ratings-crater-jan-6-committee-hearing

Liz is an afterthought at this point, she was censured in her own home state.

https://thepalmierireport.com/shes-done-liz-cheney-most-unpopular-republican-in-the-country/

She seems to have spoken the unspoken truth.

To the liberal Trump hating base.

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As every Law School Professor teaching criminal procedure has lectured: “When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When neither the facts nor the law are on your side, BANG ON THE TABLE (maybe turn it over) AND SCREAM “OBJECTION!”

Welcome to the internet iteration of the 3rd option. The facts are not on Trump’s side. The Law is not on Trump’s side. So deflect, deny, conflate, rinse, repeat.

Fortunately, according to the latest polls and primary results, it seems at this point to be of little effect although the ultimate result remains to be seen.

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Weird isn’t it that 1/2 of Americans

less than half. In a poll of Democrats at a higher percentage than actually exist.

Still not even half.

Thought team liberal doesnt like or believe polls anyway?

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All readers, once again, we ask you to please not get fixated on this one topic. Please make your point and then move on to other stories.

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it think. It’ll just keep banging on about some imagined future victory and ticking clocks.

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1/2 of voters think that Trump should be charged with a crime

now its half of VOTERS?

No, its less than half of people who replied to one liberal leaning poll with overweight representation of Democrats. not half of "voters".

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lincolnmanToday  09:35 am JST

Anyone else notice that the comments by the pro-Trump folks here are all weak deflections?

There's no point in reading them or responding to them. The important thing is the article - as much as it warms my heart to see this kind of thing there's not much point in paying too much attention to opinion polls either. Only prosecutor's opinions matter, and I don't know what they'll be making of all this.

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It’s only 1/2! Not even that 48%!

Wow, what a compelling argument!

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Ever notice how “certain posters” quote polling ad-infinitum when it suits them. But when polling is not on their side (as it’s increasingly not) suddenly it’s all fake news?

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 But when polling is not on their side (as it’s increasingly not) suddenly it’s all fake news?

me? im happy with the poll. just disputing your numerous mischaracterizations of what it says.

LESS than half. from liberal pollsters. overweighted Democrats.

Still less than half.

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There's no point in reading them or responding to them. The important thing is the article - as much as it warms my heart to see this kind of thing there's not much point in paying too much attention to opinion polls either.

The article. I think the most important thing is the pulse of the people and it’s definitely not with this committee. The main reason why so many people are turned off by the coverage is that it’s all one-sided in its condemnation of the former President. No challenging or opposing point of views or cross examinations, why would anyone take this body based on that seriously?

Only prosecutor's opinions matter, and I don't know what they'll be making of all this.

Well, they don’t matter at all even in this case because in the end they will give a referral to Garland and hope he will prosecute the President and that most likely won’t happen.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

 im happy with the poll

Trump will have to run for the Trump party again. There can be no other.

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just 4 more months and then it won’t matter. 

Depressing and frightening what America is turning into. Attempted overturning of an election and all Trump supporters can do is shrug or applaud.

I'm convinced at this point that if there were irrefutable evidence that Trump conspired to defraud the United States and attempt a coup, his fans wouldn't bat an eye.

Am I right, Trump fans?

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pulse of the people and it’s definitely not with this committee.

Its the (nearly) 1/2 who think he should be charged. One can only wonder what it will be next week when the smoking gun news is polled, but it’s going to be a higher number I would guess.

Its still less than half.

You should put that on a bumper-sticker and go with it!

“Only 1/2 of voters want our guy charged!”

I’m sure that would play well.

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that would be correct.

I hear a bunch of things with no evidence behind them, thus this is called a "hearing".

When are we getting to the trial? If there is irrefutable evidence wouldnt there be one by now?

Seems the DOJ isnt convinced.

A trial Where BOTH sides get to ask questions and liars get asked about inconsistencies in their story?

something fair where the people who dispute a liar get called to be on live TV and speak too?

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Only 1/2 of voters want our guy charged!”

less than half. would be a great bumper sticker!

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

More accurate would be “almost half”(before the most recent polling came in).

But accuracy has never been your thing.

48 less than 50 would matter if it were a basketball game. Here, not so much.

But keep screeching “It’s less than 1/2” I’m sure you are really changing minds here. (I would receive certain metrics of approval but that seems to be out of bounds)

For the purposes of public consumption, 1/2 want him charged with a crime.

And that number is headed 1 way: up.

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less than half. would be a great bumper sticker!

Less that 1/3 of Americans don't want Trump charged would be equally accurate and also a great bumper sticker.

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when you have to mischaracterize something, especially intentionally and over and over, you know you have already lost.

Ask any person on the street without adding any context at all- is 48% more than half or less than half?

You know what answer you should get.

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1/2 (nearly) want him prosecuted. That number is only going up. I’d be interested to see how many people think that’s a good number.

But like I said, ride that one since it’s all you’ve got.

And where, one wonders were your basic math skills at the last election?

Seems like you had a bit of trouble with 81 million being more than 74 million.

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Black: A trial Where BOTH sides get to ask questions and liars get asked about inconsistencies in their story?

We'd love to see Trump in that spot, yes.

when you have to mischaracterize something, especially intentionally and over and over, you know you have already lost.

Like The Big Lie?

Apparently supporting Trump makes you blind to the irony of your words.

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BlacklabelToday  11:02 am JST

Ask any person on the street without adding any context at all- is 48% more than half or less than half?

Less, obviously. It's still more than the 31% who don't think Trump should be prosecuted, and if it were a "democratic" first-past-the-post election 48% would be good enough for a win, less than half or not.

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Let’s add a little context (since being context-free is an objectively dumb way to go).

”With respect to charging Trump with a crime, current polling says that 48% want him charged and tried. To you, is that essentially 1/2? Would you say it’s fair to say 1/2 want Trump charged with a crime according to this poll?”

The exact portion is unknown but it’s virtually certain that MORE THAN HALF would say “yes”.

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Less, obviously. It's still more than the 31% who don't think Trump should be prosecuted, and if it were a "democratic" first-past-the-post election 48% would be good enough for a win, less than half or not.

now we are getting somewhere.

So is 48% (because of 86% Democrats) enough to get someone indicted, convicted of a crime and imprisoned?

Nope. DOJ concurs.

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When are we getting to the trial? If there is irrefutable evidence wouldnt there be one by now?

No. That’s why there’s a Hearing.

Stamp your little feet all you like it or ignore it. The process will continue as it should all the same.

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BlacklabelToday  11:18 am JST

So is 48% (because of 86% Democrats) enough to get someone indicted, convicted of a crime and imprisoned?

Nope. DOJ concurs.

I would imagine they do. I didn't think public opinion was supposed to have any bearing on criminal trials.

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No. That’s why there’s a Hearing.

so yeah we have "heard" things.

Some true, some likely not true and some definitely false.

What we dont have is any actual evidence of what we heard being true in the most "bombshell" type allegations. If we had, there would be a criminal referral and a trial.

the last witness lied under oath. what is going to be done about that? nothing. cause its a "hearing".

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that would be correct.

I hear a bunch of things with no evidence behind them...

Wow, did you just nail Trump's whole "it's rigged" con-job....

Even Giuliani agrees with you;  "We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence."

https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-voter-fraud-evidence-rusty-bowers-testimony-jan6-committee-2022-6

How about addressing that instead of "48% isn't half"...

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the last witness lied under oath. what is going to be done about that? nothing. cause its a "hearing".

Prove it.

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Trump is going to jail. The evidence is overwhelming already and they’re still not finished. He likely will die in prison, unless he can stay out until dies. He’s old.

It’s important that this happens to send the message to other would be seditionists. Democracy only lives through the rule of law, something Trump blatantly ignored pretty much his whole life. Well it finally caught up to him and leaves him a pathetic old man, with a legacy as the worst president America has ever seen.

For as critical as I often am about America, it’s good to see their system working. America has its problems, but it’s a better superpower than Russia or China - when it’s not led by a wannabe dictator.

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"StrangerlandToday 11:34 am JST

Trump is going to jail. The evidence is overwhelming already and they’re still not finished. He likely will die in prison, unless he can stay out until dies. He’s old."

I suspect that you highly overrate American political 'justice'. It seems, to me at least, that American politicians would be highly reluctant to set a precedent that they or their cronies might find waiting for them at some time also.

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The Big Lie is clearly a reference to the (Pathetic) efforts of Trump and his criminal gang to spin, out of whole cloth the lie that the election was rigged.

It’s a lie. It’s a Big lie. Thus the Big lie. That it further connects Trump to Adolf Hitler (apart from the copy of Adolf’s book his ex says is one of the few books he actually read) is just the icing on the cake.

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Why so many commenters keep saying half of the country ? ? ?

Are you blind ?

50% is half !

About half isn't half is it !

Say it like it is and not what you would like it to be.

Iam not fond of Trump either.

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Is anyone seriously suggesting that criminal liability be determined on a survey?

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Depressing and frightening what America is turning into. Attempted overturning of an election and all Trump supporters can do is shrug or applaud.

And yet, more and more people are flocking over to the Republicans, so apparently Republicans don’t seem to be the problem and the neither the former president

I'm convinced at this point that if there were irrefutable evidence that Trump conspired to defraud the United States and attempt a coup, his fans wouldn't bat an eye.

Am I right, Trump fans?

that is your belief, so it would seem.

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So next week when it’s say 53%, will the accuracy police say “more than half”?

Some how, I doubt it.

I return my basic point: when you’re arguing “It’s less than half!” And “the other half don’t want him indicted”, you’re not losing - you’ve lost.

You cannot name another figure in public life for whom 1/2 wanting him tried for a crime would be a starting point because there aren’t any.

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Is anyone seriously suggesting that criminal liability be determined on a survey?

Absolutely not. But to be fair, it’s the headline and it’s all they’ve got since objective fact is not on Trump’s side.

I am very glad that DOJ charging decision are not based on opinion polls regardless of what the #s are.

Trump can take no such comfort.

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And one more far-right news site has thrown in their MAGA-towel....

*New testimony from the most recent Jan. 6 committee hearing shows that former President Donald Trump is a “disgrace” who is “unfit to be anywhere near power ever again,” according to *right-wing news website the Washington Examiner.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wing-news-declares-trump-unfit-080155438.html

I can't count how many times our pro-Trump friends have cited the Examiner...

I wonder if they still will....or if they've flipped and now say it's a "Leftist, liberal, CNN-wanna-be"....

ROFL...

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that former President Donald Trump is a “disgrace” who is “unfit to be anywhere near power ever again,”

testimony SHOWS this?

sure sounds like an opinion to me.

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Is it any wonder not only average Americans, but loyal members of MAGA-world are turning Trump off....

“[A person] let me know you have your deposition tomorrow,” read a slide that the Jan. 6 committee broadcast at the end of Hutchinson’s hearing, which Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) characterized as pressure on a key witness. “He wants me to let you know that he’s thinking about you. He knows you’re loyal, and you’re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition.”

“What they said to me is as long as I continue to be a team player, they know I’m on the right team,” the slide said. “I’m doing the right thing. I’m protecting who I need to protect, you know, I’ll continue to stay in good graces in Trump World. And they have reminded me a couple of times that Trump does read transcripts.”

Exchange Trump with John Gotti....and the result is the same...as will be the indictment and conviction...

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Is it any wonder not only average Americans, but loyal members of MAGA-world are turning Trump off....

We kept hearing this along with Russia, Russia, impeachments and everything else that the left has been pushing that worn out narrative.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

The committee suddenly has no interest in scheduling another 24 hour notice surprise hearing to let these people speak publicly. they are willing just need the platform to do so.

As I’ve told you twice. You claim cover up.

Why is Mr Engel quiet? If he has something important to say he should say it publicly.

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If he has something important to say he should say it publicly.

the committee wont schedule a "hearing" for people to "hear" him.

whens the next hearing? is he scheduled to speak? no, right? why not?

They subpoenaed a Trump lawyer instead.

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You are right. Trump is much more of a Mussolini. 

This is why no one is taking the Democrats seriously on any level.

But as far as being a fascist, nazi-curious sociopath who attempted to overthrow democracy with the help of an irregular militia (oh those PBs and their coordinated colors) the analogy is rather apt.

Utterly, a joke to make that kind of statement is just ludicrous. 

Unhinged lunatic? Check

Megalomaniac? Check

Hates any form of “the other”? Check

Inspires a cult of personality? Check

A record of consistently failing up? Check. 

Willing to encourage violence for personal gain? Check

Always blaming others for his failures? Check

Horrible strategy? Check

Golly, the analogy seems rather apt indeed. 

No wonder 1/2 want him tried. One wondersk what dreamland the other half exist in?

When Trump gathers millions of Americans, and puts them in ghettos or jails prison opponents or burns books and thinks about invading other countries and having a final solution all planned, By all means do make the comparison, but until then and until Trump hangs his political opponents, perform burning books and and pulling people and separating them based on radical ideology then nothing is remotely closewith any of these people.

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This is why no one is taking the Democrats seriously on any level.

Again, you are attempting to conflate Trump’s criminality and the obvious similarities to other fascists (lacking of course any semblance of competence) with election results is an obvious dodge.

And all the things that Hitler did that Trump didn’t get to?

It wasn’t for lack of trying. It was because he lacked competency and he had people around him that saved him from himself.

That’s why even your blessed Washington Examiner says he’s unfit for office and should never be within spitting distance of it ever again. Are they some liberal Dem rag?

Nope. Trump is the leader of a cult. A cult that thankfully the DOJ has yet to be corrupted by.

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Again, you are attempting to conflate Trump’s criminality

If Trump WERE a criminal he would have already been arrested and convicted, it's not going to happen and these people know it.

and the obvious similarities to other fascists (lacking of course any semblance of competence) with election results is an obvious dodge. 

And all the things that Hitler did that Trump didn’t get to? 

It wasn’t for lack of trying. It was because he lacked competency and he had people around him that saved him from himself. 

Hitler and Benito were responsible for millions of innocent dead people which has never happened under any President, let alone Trump.

That’s why even your blessed Washington Examiner says he’s unfit for office

Which was an opinion piece from ONE editor and so cowardly, he wouldn't even state his name, now why would that be....

Nope. Trump is the leader of a cult. A cult that thankfully the DOJ has yet to be corrupted by.

And yet, the Democrats are leaning hard on Garland to prosecute Trump, why would they pressure him? Why do they think they can make this guy do their bidding? He is after all independent, is he not?

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