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By KAREN MATTHEWS NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Bob Fosse
And there it is.
You don’t believe in Pence’s advice. You believe she is lying.
The best advice is don’t be a sexual harasser. The most recent accuser wasn’t alone with him, it was at a wedding and he was photographed and overheard. He has also admitted he was inappropriate, and will cooperate with the investigation.
But sure, tell us again about Pence tomorrow.
Wolfpack
It’s hard to believe that people cannot understand the perfection that is the Pence Rule. It is not only to guard against the small, but not unheard of, chance that a troubled woman makes a false accusation. It serves the purpose of preventing the corrosive effects of false impressions or office gossip and charges of favoritism. More importantly it cuts way down on the chances of something untoward occurring.
That doesn’t mean that an egotistical politician like Cuomo or Biden will not ever get handsy with women (and girls in Biden’s case) in public. It does mean however that they will be restrained by the public setting.
The arguments against the Pence Rule seem to be aimed at increasing the opportunities for harassment. It is Darwinism that compels human beings to seek out opportunities for sex. Follow the science- right? Restraint in matters of sex in modern society is passé in the face of hook up culture and ubiquitous online pornography. The Pence rule is more common sense than Victorian era morality.
Lazarus Knows
I've been alone in a room with a woman who isn't my partner several times, and I've never been accused of sexual harassment.
Do you want to know my secret?
Don't sexually harass people.
Lazarus Knows
I just think that the right-wing keep articulating excellent arguments for why no men should be allowed into positions of power. If they're incapable of controlling their animal lusts when alone with a woman, who knows what they'll do when in position of a budget, or a weapons arsenal?
If men are too influenced by their feelings, and not enough by logic, unlike women, then they should be barred from owning businesses and holding office until they can get their acts together.
To put it another way, we should shut down all men until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
Bob Fosse
If you believe a woman will lie to make a false accusation and that people will unfalteringly believe her then the Pence rule is nonsensical. Why would she not lie about being alone in a room too?
Rather than the stupid and unenforceable ‘Pence’ rule, which is something recently made up by people who just like to discredit accusations of sexual harassment, your best choice would be to wear a body cam 24 hours a day.
Or as has been pointed out several times and once more again to see if it sticks; the best advice is don’t sexually harassed women. I’ve lived my whole life without a single accusation. Guess why.
Bob Fosse
Think for a moment about all the situations in life where you are alone with someone. Are you saying if you ordered a taxi and the woman was a driver you would refuse service? A female doctor? Seems like discrimination to me.
GdTokyo
There's nothing wrong with an older man approaching a younger woman.
There IS A LOT wrong with an older man positioning a younger woman, who is his subordinate, who's career he influences, in his office during a work day.
There's so much wrong with that, I don't even know where to start.
Cuomo needs to go. This is beyond the pale.
stormcrow
It's a damn shame and it looks like he should probably step down. Gov. Cuomo has been a good governor who cares deeply about public service despite this apparent personal problem he has. Still, he's not violent and hasn't been accused of sexual assault or rape as other prominent Republicans (such as Trump or the new Supreme Court justice) who continue to live their lives as though nothing happened. One party cleans house while the other party sweeps things under the rug and turns a blind eye to the problem.
bass4funk
This guy is in so much trouble, he’s pretty much done, stick a fork in him! I mean, if Hillary (of all people) takes the victims position, it’s pretty much over for this lying piece of work.
Toasted Heretic
The far right, advocating violence again.
As it should be. Predators should be held accountable. No matter what their politics are.
Wouldn't you agree?
bass4funk
Nice try. Lol
Not me, his victims want him to pay for what he’s done, so do I think he can politically survive his lies about the nursing homes and how he’s been allegedly caught in the act of inappropriately touching women? No, I don’t think he’ll survive this.
As it should be. Predators should be held accountable. No matter what their politics are.
Yes, if it is determined and sexually proven that crimes were committed then you should be held accountable, so every woman that comes forward and at the very least, should be heard.
Or the way Dems did with Clinton, Wiener, Ellis and Warnock, but yeah, it’s all repugnant whether it comes from the right or the left. But anyway, the guy is now on borrowed time.
bass4funk
Yes, that’s right.
Lazarus Knows
Actually, if you're on the right and dozens of women come forward to accuse you, and you have been on radio admitting to peeping on underage girls, and you're on TV saying "I don't even wait, I just do it. I can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy", it's actually very cool and good.
bass4funk
Hmmm. I think that when you have sex with women in the White House or you have your PC filled with underage porn of young girls, or to have been accused of slapping your wife and being physically abusive is just as bad.
Like I said, “it’s all” creepy, pathetic, repugnant and bad.
Lazarus Knows
I think it's fair for people to have sex with their partners in the White House.
That's probably why the Democratic Party dropped Wiener like a hot potato.
There was no evidence of this, if Warnock is who you are referring to.
Great! So will you condemn Donald Trump, someone who peeped on underage girls and grabs women by the privates by his own admission, as being creepy, pathetic, repugnant and bad?
SuperLib
My guess he will he gone soon, which, as the evidence seems to be pointing to, is a good thing. No excuses or deflections.
bass4funk
Even if the President is married? Hmmm... Ok...
After a bunch of government emails were illegally found, yes, of course.
No evidence he didn’t .
Yes, but he wasn’t President back then if that indeed happened.
bass4funk
If these allegations are indeed true, then he should be.